Workout: What did you do today?

[jimmy jazz]

Yes if you're in four days a week, use those on weights and walk/cycle/burpees/skipping rope for your cardio as you can do that any time imo. Another option is doing your cardio after lifting but I dunno if you're in there that long.

You could do:

Upper
Lower
Rest
Upper
Lower

Then weekend off obviously.

Or

Chest/tris
Quads/shoulders
Rest
Back/bis
Hams/calves

I'd probs start with the former as its more beginner friendly. The first one means you can train muscle groups twice a week, the second obviously you can't but you'll be hitting them harder.

This is another that is full body and you do it 3 days a week, so you'd have an extra day to do cardio/spot fit chicks.

https://scoobyswork.shop/beginning-gym-workout/

This guy is great BTW and his YouTube channel will help you loads.

[jadis]

I wonder whether the whole private trainer thing is at all conducive to actually understanding what good form is and developing it to the point where you can train independently. Seems like it would be against their commercial interest. Seems like private trainers are more about guiding your every movement as opposed to showing you something that you then internalize

I learned everything I know from knowledgeable trainers whose thing was "I want you to keep going to my gym and so I'll teach you how to do every exercise properly"

[jadis]

3 mile run today at the park;

Mindy NO! Think of your knees!

[jimmy jazz]

Mindy NO! Think of your knees!

Mindy

If he started a fitness journal I would 100% read it.

Yeah regarding personal trainers I've never used one. Learned everything myself through trial and error and the Internet.

Maybe if you're a multimillionaire and can afford to keep paying to have someone guide you through each time then it'd be worth it but I think for most people it's all very learnable and nothing to be intimidated by, especially with the Internet. I know that you can say that for a lot of things people will pay professionals for but still you have a point, why would they teach you to fish for yourself if they can just keep selling you a fish.

[DJChameleon]

I wonder whether the whole private trainer thing is at all conducive to actually understanding what good form is and developing it to the point where you can train independently. Seems like it would be against their commercial interest. Seems like private trainers are more about guiding your every movement as opposed to showing you something that you then internalize

I learned everything I know from knowledgeable trainers whose thing was "I want you to keep going to my gym and so I'll teach you how to do every exercise properly"

I mostly started with my trainer purely so that I could learn proper form on certain equipment/exercises. I was going to the gym on my own for the first three months of the year using machines half assed because I didn't think I was doing it the wrong way so I didn't think I needed to ask anyone in the gym for help. What I learned from my trainer is that you don't have to spend all day in the gym. You can just do certain things that end up being more effective so you work certain muscle groups and you can do it in shorter time. To make the most of your gym time.  He really drilled into me about super sets.

I would do the bench press motion with dumbbells starting at 20 and doing 12 reps then 30 and 10 reps then 40 and 8 reps then 50 and 6 reps would be the final. I would just do it until the point of being exhausted. Sometimes I wouldn't even be able to complete that last 6 at 50 but I would do my best.

[jadis]

I mostly started with my trainer purely so that I could learn proper form on certain equipment/exercises. I was going to the gym on my own for the first three months of the year using machines half assed because I didn't think I was doing it the wrong way so I didn't think I needed to ask anyone in the gym for help. What I learned from my trainer is that you don't have to spend all day in the gym. You can just do certain things that end up being more effective so you work certain muscle groups and you can do it in shorter time. To make the most of your gym time.  He really drilled into me about super sets.

I would do the bench press motion with dumbbells starting at 20 and doing 12 reps then 30 and 10 reps then 40 and 8 reps then 50 and 6 reps would be the final. I would just do it until the point of being exhausted. Sometimes I wouldn't even be able to complete that last 6 at 50 but I would do my best.

Yeah this sounds good, I don't think you should train for more than an hour unless you're a professional sportsman.

Ask him questions about form, what should you be focusing on in this or that motion, what's the one thing you don't want to be doing etc. With a lot of stuff like bench press or shoulder exercises the key is to lift your chest. It guarantees a clean, safe motion. With other exercises you should be focused on other things obviously.

And compare his advice to stuff you watch on YT cause it will clarify certain things and make you remember the instructions better. JJ is right that there's lots of great content on YT, which he knows better than I do.

[jadis]

One exercise where you can work up to serious weight (and thus great metabolism boost) relatively quickly (but start out slowly and carefully!) is the leg press. There, the secret to avoid injuries is 1) don't straighten up your legs all the way 2) don't fold your knees all the way so that they're pressed up to your chest. That's pretty much all there is to it afaik

[DJChameleon]

Yeah this sounds good, I don't think you should train for more than an hour unless you're a professional sportsman.

Ask him questions about form, what should you be focusing on in this or that motion, what's the one thing you don't want to be doing etc. With a lot of stuff like bench press or shoulder exercises the key is to lift your chest. It guarantees a clean, safe motion. With other exercises you should be focused on other things obviously.

And compare his advice to stuff you watch on YT cause it will clarify certain things and make you remember the instructions better. JJ is right that there's lots of great content on YT, which he knows better than I do.

yeah our sessions usually last an hour. When it gets close to the hour I can always tell because my body just wants to give up and I get super sluggish. Yeah he teaches me proper form and to roll my shoulders so I don't pull anything on certain machines/exercises.

[Mindy]

Mindy NO! Think of your knees!

appreciate the concern but I'm going to do what the fuck I want

[jadis]

appreciate the concern but I'm going to do what the fuck I want

Never doubted that for a second! You do you man, I was just kidding

[jimmy jazz]

appreciate the concern but I'm going to do what the fuck I want

😂😂😂

Spicey.

[jadis]

I had a chat today with one of the junior trainers at my gym who has some private clients he works with when he's not on shift. I wondered why would they want to pay for a private trainer at a gym that provides you with great trainers and programs as part of the basic package. He said that his latest client, for example, is so hyperactive that he can barely control him when they work one on one. If this guy senses that he can do an exercise he would keep going at it to the point of exhaustion or injury, and so the trainer has to tell him to stop. Patience is something he's literally uncapable of...

Now I want to hear of his other clients.

[DJChameleon]

Today I'm going to try my own custom workout at the gym trainer less wish my luck.

I'm going to focus on chest/tris.

[jimmy jazz]

Today I'm going to try my own custom workout at the gym trainer less wish my luck.

I'm going to focus on chest/tris.

Good luck bro.
Do compounds first then isolation.

Something like:

Chest:
Bench Press, 4 sets, 12 reps
Dumbbell Fly, 4 sets, 12 reps

Tris:
Close grip bench press, 4 sets, 12 reps
Dumbbell extension, 4 sets, 12 reps

💪💪💪

[jimmy jazz]

@DJChameleon how did it go? Did you have a good workout? Did you admire your physique afterwards? Did a plethora of scantily clad gym babes demand that you enter them immediately?

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