An interesting post but I would say I do like having legs with a bit of size on them as I am naturally a very skinny bean. I don't wear jeans (because I am chav scum) but when I did (as a teenager trying to get into places) I used to wear joggers under them to pad my legs up so my jeans didn't just hang off me  :'(

The body dysmorphia thing is an interesting point. Definitely something I relate to but not in the way you think. Might elaborate in time.

Anyway you doing any exercise atm?

@FETCHER. Are you keeping fit?

EDIT - Ignore this I tagged you before you posted then you posted before I posted.



Only God knows.

The priority for me these days is to do something every day. Today a I came in early in the morning, did a quicky under 30 min with some shoulder and back exercises. Mostly cause I finished the last program he designed for me and he didn't have the time to do a new one so I just did my favorite exercises. Might do the unprecedented and go for a second time a day late in the evening cause by then the program would be ready. The first runs of a new program aren't proper trainings anyway, you just learn the exercises

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Quote from: jadis on Jul 04, 2023, 12:39 PMYep I like the legs thing esp. Who wants those massive fucking trunks that make you look silly in jeans?

Btw the girl it's still weird for me to call my "ex" was kinda into this body type but for herself. She had some body dysmorphia thing where she had an entire album of jacked anime girls on her phone and followed a bunch of horrifying female weight lifters on instagram and had a fantasy that she would turn her soft, small and feminine self into a bag of hard muscle. Like, 80 or maybe 90 percent of the time she loved being an extremely girly girl with tits and ass and all that. But the rest of of the time she had anxiety attacks, if that's the word for it, about NOT being jacked and rock hard.

I don't think you have to be Freud exactly to figure out why a survivor of rape would fantasize about turning into someone who can't be easily overpowered by a man. But I also think she was lucky to have an attentive older boyfriend, who could talk her out of doing anything silly, like ruining her body with deadlifts and testosterone boosters. To explain to her the reality of the gym as opposed to whatever dumb fantasy she had, to convey to her how perfect and desirable she was etc. Many people who don't have that end up doing irreversible damage to themselves, whether with puberty blockers or steroids or whatever else you care to name.

My wife is in a similar situation. I only mean the whole going to the gym part to not be overpowered by a man because of a past relationship mirred in domestic violence that also included rape. The dickhead was of the school of thought that you can't rape your significant other. Anyways that motivates her to want to go to the gym not really to be bodybuilder levels though but just lose weight and be stronger overall. She's a bit of a tomboy too.

Anyways funds are a little tight for me this month so I have to ditch my trainer. I feel so lost at the gym and feel like I'm just doing random shit without his direction. You'd think over the past two months something would have stuck. I just normally turn my brain and use the machines and the proper form he tells me to and now I feel lost. I have to come up with my own routine and write down which machines I will use on which days.

I did chest monday as usual. Tomorrow I might do back or legs and shoulders. I need to write up a routine that consists of which machines how many reps and sets I will do.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 05, 2023, 02:43 PMAnyways funds are a little tight for me this month so I have to ditch my trainer. I feel so lost at the gym and feel like I'm just doing random shit without his direction. You'd think over the past two months something would have stuck. I just normally turn my brain and use the machines and the proper form he tells me to and now I feel lost. I have to come up with my own routine and write down which machines I will use on which days.

I did chest monday as usual. Tomorrow I might do back or legs and shoulders. I need to write up a routine that consists of which machines how many reps and sets I will do.

You know we could help with that.

You go four days a week, how many times do you work each muscle group per week?





Only God knows.

I'm also happy to share gym programmes if you're feeling a bit lost. I have a few from when I was working in a gym and also a couple from when I was paying a personal trainer.


I did an 8km+ jog yesterday evening. I was quite happy with myself afterwards. My legs were screaming at me though.


Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 05, 2023, 05:41 PMYou know we could help with that.

You go four days a week, how many times do you work each muscle group per week?





Quote from: FETCHER. on Jul 05, 2023, 06:52 PMI'm also happy to share gym programmes if you're feeling a bit lost. I have a few from when I was working in a gym and also a couple from when I was paying a personal trainer.

Sure I welcome any help. I normally do chest days every Monday then on Thursday I try out different areas. Last Thursday I did arms so tomorrow. I will most likely do shoulder/legs or maybe back. Actually because of car issues and I have to go in early to get the brakes looked at. I might skip the gym all together but Friday for sure I will be back at it.

Tuesday/Friday are my normal cardio days.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 06, 2023, 12:57 AMSure I welcome any help. I normally do chest days every Monday then on Thursday I try out different areas. Last Thursday I did arms so tomorrow. I will most likely do shoulder/legs or maybe back. Actually because of car issues and I have to go in early to get the brakes looked at. I might skip the gym all together but Friday for sure I will be back at it.

Tuesday/Friday are my normal cardio days.

You only do your chest once a week and then your other muscles less than once a week (once a fortnight)?

Is this what your trainer told you to do?



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Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 06, 2023, 08:57 PMYou only do your chest once a week and then your other muscles less than once a week (once a fortnight)?

Is this what your trainer told you to do?



No that's not what my trainer told me to do that's just what I do.

Since I work with my trainer only twice a week. I pay per session so to keep costs low I only work with him twice. When I'm not working with him I do cardio. He keeps track of the stuff I do when I work with him.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 07, 2023, 11:16 AMNo that's not what my trainer told me to do that's just what I do.

Since I work with my trainer only twice a week. I pay per session so to keep costs low I only work with him twice. When I'm not working with him I do cardio. He keeps track of the stuff I do when I work with him.

I'm gonna assume you're trying to build muscle otherwise you wouldn't be bothering with the weights.

If you did your cardio away from the gym that'd give you four days to use weights with no extra days spent in the gym cos you're there four days anyway.

Is that an option?



Only God knows.

Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 07, 2023, 01:02 PMI'm gonna assume you're trying to build muscle otherwise you wouldn't be bothering with the weights.

If you did your cardio away from the gym that'd give you four days to use weights with no extra days spent in the gym cos you're there four days anyway.

Is that an option?



I could weight train everyday I'm in the gym yes.

I'm just trying to become fit and feel healthier than last year. I'm diabetic so the consistency with exercise has been helping my A1C. Anything else that happens as a result of me being in the gym four days a week is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

If I lose my flabby man boobs through building muscle thats great. If I lose the flabby lunch lady arms also a bonus but not something I'm super concernced or focused on. I'm not even focused on getting down to a specific weight. I just want to feel better overall and I do.

Like I said I've been judging my progress more so on pants and shirt sizes going down more so than the number on the scale. I did start at 301 lbs and I'm down to 265 since January. Numbers don't matter to me I know it will go up and down based off of me gaining muscle while trying to lose weight.

Body fat percentage is what I'm looking to reducing.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 07, 2023, 02:05 PMI could weight train everyday I'm in the gym yes.

I'm just trying to become fit and feel healthier than last year. I'm diabetic so the consistency with exercise has been helping my A1C. Anything else that happens as a result of me being in the gym four days a week is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

If I lose my flabby man boobs through building muscle thats great. If I lose the flabby lunch lady arms also a bonus but not something I'm super concernced or focused on. I'm not even focused on getting down to a specific weight. I just want to feel better overall and I do.

Like I said I've been judging my progress more so on pants and shirt sizes going down more so than the number on the scale. I did start at 301 lbs and I'm down to 265 since January. Numbers don't matter to me I know it will go up and down based off of me gaining muscle while trying to lose weight.

Body fat percentage is what I'm looking to reducing.

I'd do weights every training and do cardio and stomach exercises in between lifting. Weights boost your metabolism like nothing else could, and then crunches and that kind of stuff will target the areas you need to slim down.






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Yes if you're in four days a week, use those on weights and walk/cycle/burpees/skipping rope for your cardio as you can do that any time imo. Another option is doing your cardio after lifting but I dunno if you're in there that long.

You could do:

Upper
Lower
Rest
Upper
Lower

Then weekend off obviously.

Or

Chest/tris
Quads/shoulders
Rest
Back/bis
Hams/calves

I'd probs start with the former as its more beginner friendly. The first one means you can train muscle groups twice a week, the second obviously you can't but you'll be hitting them harder.

This is another that is full body and you do it 3 days a week, so you'd have an extra day to do cardio/spot fit chicks.

https://scoobyswork.shop/beginning-gym-workout/

This guy is great BTW and his YouTube channel will help you loads.

Only God knows.

I wonder whether the whole private trainer thing is at all conducive to actually understanding what good form is and developing it to the point where you can train independently. Seems like it would be against their commercial interest. Seems like private trainers are more about guiding your every movement as opposed to showing you something that you then internalize

I learned everything I know from knowledgeable trainers whose thing was "I want you to keep going to my gym and so I'll teach you how to do every exercise properly"

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Quote from: Mindy on Jul 06, 2023, 01:21 AM3 mile run today at the park;


Mindy NO! Think of your knees!

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