What's the latest movie you've seen?

[degrassi.knoll]

If that's what I was trying to say I would just say that.

[Lexi Darling]

If that's what I was trying to say I would just say that.

Understood. Maybe I do mistake your brashness for hostility.

I would like to excuse myself from the Barbie discussion. I was actually really intrigued by what you said about trans identity and gender roles, and I would love to post my thoughts on that, but film readings are not my wheelhouse and I concede that, so I would like to end this discussion there, if you don't mind.

At the end of the day I really am not attached to defending my take; I'm no good at debates and if someone has a problem with the opinions I post, they're probably completely justified. This is why I prefer brainless bad movies and craft youtubers to stuff that has artistic merits to debate.

[degrassi.knoll]

Lol damn. An official withdrawal. Really didn't think it was that serious.

[Lexi Darling]

Lol damn. An official withdrawal. Didn't think it was that serious.

It's a flaw of mine; I get a bit hyperfocused on one thing and go in too deep and start taking it too seriously. I wanted to honor your response to my criticism by engaging with it, but I always get too into the debate rabbit hole. I ought to try to learn to nip this stuff in the bud.

[degrassi.knoll]

Is every back and forth a debate? I don't get it. You seem to feel called out by any response I have to your posts, maybe it just me. 

[Lexi Darling]

Is every back and forth a debate? I don't get it. You seem to feel called out by any response I have to your posts, maybe it just me. 

Some of them, yeah, I did feel called out. Maybe I'm misinterpreting your posts, then. My bad. I just don't know what more there is to say on this subject and I don't feel like continuing to talk about it.

I sincerely apologize for coming off as defensive or accusatory of you. I have been awake for 19 hours and I am very on edge tonight. I shouldn't have freaked out like I did. I've had a very mentally stimulating week and am very burnt out on the whole. I misread your posts as being more hostile than they actually were. I fully admit I do tend to get overly defensive in internet discussions these days, engaging in the discourse about trans issues and political stuff on other websites has messed with my brain so much that my default setting in online discussions is to be on the defensive. The past year has been very rough on my mental health, and having to constantly prove the worth of my identity and my existence to bad faith posters elsewhere online has made me very on edge and untrustworthy.

I honestly feel awful for assuming the worst of you.

[jadis]

Nice, Jadis! Thank you so much 🙂 I will check out Ballard as well as The Adjuster.

I wrote about rewatching Crash here a few months ago and Elias Koteas is one of those actors I typically recognize without remembering exactly from where.

I've also been thinking about Crash today as I wrote about Rosanna Arquette in the Hot Peeps thread 🤔 I'll check out Ballard's book after I've finished Hiroshima.

I think many people have this relationship with actors who appear mostly in supporting roles but when you know what school he went to and what's his favorite Chinese restaurant that's not an option!

[DJChameleon]

I misread your posts as being more hostile than they actually were.

Nah you read it right the first time because I read it that way too and when you called it out. She decided to backpedal and be all "why so serious bro" about it.

I'm sorry for what you've been going through. It's okay to just back away from debate lords especially when you don't feel up to it anymore mentally. At the end of the day protect your inner peace.

Certain discussions/arguments aren't worth it.

[Lexi Darling]

Finding Jesus (2020)

The mister is not feeling well today. He's feeling fatigued and dealing with some private health issues. Nothing really worrisome thankfully. But he's a bit down today, and as you all know one of our favorite things to do together is watch bad movies, and we're both off from our jobs today. So I was tasked with finding a suitably atrocious work of cinema for the afternoon.

We're connoisseurs of the low brow, the obscure, and the poorly made, but one thing we've not really dabbled in is the world of religious films. For a bit of context, the man of the house was raised in a Catholic household and still followed Christianity at the time I met him. Religion honestly never really came up that much during the early years of our relationship, but all the while Mr. Waffles was very much struggling with his faith. I don't want to speak for him on here, and he can correct me on any of this and I'll edit, but long story short, he is not a Christian anymore. Since I found that out, I've been curious if he would want to dive into the world of low budget religious movies, because there's a lot of notorious ones. I found this movie listed among them, walked into the bedroom and told him I found out that there's a Christian ripoff of Finding Nemo called Finding Jesus. His response?

"Holy sh*t, we have to watch that."

It's pretty fitting that we chose to watch this while both of us were in such a low energy haze. This movie gave me the same feeling of zombified numbness as being on heavy painkillers. I felt like my grip on reality was loosening with every second of watching a bunch of stiffly animated sea creatures talking about Jesus. I'm not always in the mood to watch this particular flavor of bad movie (you know, the kind that feels like your brain is being slowly and repeatedly whacked by a meat tenderizer) but somehow today it just kind of felt right. I don't want to summarize the film, because doing so would make me relive it and then I'd lose even more brain cells. Surprisingly I didn't consider our viewing of the film to be a negative or wasted experience. But it's also the kind of experience that I think we'd both want to agree to never mention again.

[degrassi.knoll]

Nah you read it right the first time because I read it that way too and when you called it out. She decided to backpedal and be all "why so serious bro" about it.

I'm sorry for what you've been going through. It's okay to just back away from debate lords especially when you don't feel up to it anymore mentally. At the end of the day protect your inner peace.

Certain discussions/arguments aren't worth it.

Sees a take on a film I'm excited about that I don't understand -> question said take -> continue to ask clarifying questions -> somehow am the asshole

Please show me where I was being hostile or backpedaling because this makes zero sense to me

And what debate?? Literally was asking questions about a movie we both saw. Are we really so sensitive that our opinions can't be commented on or questioned without feeling threatened? I really do not understand.

[DJChameleon]

Sees a take on a film I'm excited about that I don't understand -> question said take -> continue to ask clarifying questions -> somehow am the asshole

Please show me where I was being hostile or backpedaling because this makes zero sense to me

And what debate?? Literally was asking questions about a movie we both saw. Are we really so sensitive that our opinions can't be commented on or questioned without feeling threatened? I really do not understand.

In your little diagram  you conveniently left out the part where you make assumptions about the person and how they identify as if that has anything to do with their opinion of the movie but go off lil sis.

I came across this video review from Alanah Pearce and she had a similar opinion to Mrs. Waffles about the whole "shallowness" of movie.

[degrassi.knoll]

Ok? People having differing opinions than me isn't a problem. And neither is asking questions.

What assumptions did I make exactly? Are you referring to where I said the thing about being inherently exempt from "traditional" gender roles as a person living a trans experience?

What exactly is hostile about that?

And it didn't come out of nowhere, Mrs. Waffles said her views may be biased based on the dynamic of her relationship - I never said anything to discredit that, if anything I was in support of her assertion of her opinions outside of a supposed bias that is highly unlikely she actually has because her experience is highly likely more complex than the basic understanding of "traditional gender roles."

But whatever. Someone has to be the heel of this forum.

[DJChameleon]

Ok? People having differing opinions than me isn't a problem. And neither is asking questions.

What assumptions did I make exactly? Are you referring to where I said the thing about being inherently exempt from "traditional" gender roles as a person living a trans experience?

What exactly is hostile about that?

I don't think anyone is bothered about having differing opinions or asking questions.

You made the comment about her just assuming it's a chick flick and then made that second comment.

[degrassi.knoll]

I don't think anyone is bothered about having differing opinions or asking questions.

You made the comment about her just assuming it's a chick flick and then made that second comment.

And I provided examples as to why I think she went into viewing it under a certain context. Again, how is this hostile?

None of this is mean or an attack.

Like seriously what the fuck should I have said differently to spare feelings?

She said the depth took her by surprise, and I wondered how that could be without presuming the film would be shallow in the first place.

[DJChameleon]

And I provided examples as to why I think she went into viewing it under a certain context. Again, how is this hostile?

It definitely felt that way from my perspective as well as Mrs. Waffles's.

She explained why it felt that way to hear and went into like doubting that maybe she read too much into it. At this point it's just gaslighting. It someone feels a certain way about something then let them feel it.

If you don't see how it's hostile then okay that's fine.