The news thread

[Lexi Darling]

I think that's a bit of a generalization. You can be against fascism and not be a Marxist. The only ideology antifa has in common is "fascism is bad".

But yeah, I, along with most trans people I'd imagine, understand that many other marginalized groups hate us just the same as every other walk of life. As an out trans person for 20 years I know better than to assume allyship.

[jimmy jazz]

I think it stems from Antifa's ideological roots in marxism. It presents a paradigm of 'oppressors' vs 'oppressed'. And in viewing himself and those muslim women as 'oppressed', he figured they'd agree with him.

Its just as someone who is from a place where this is a bit of a hot potato it is hilarious to me he thought they'd side with him.

[Psy-Fi]

Worker crushed to death by robot that mistook him for a box of veggies

[jimmy jazz]

Worker crushed to death by robot that mistook him for a box of veggies

That reminds me of a story of a man who walked into an industrial oven to clean it and a colleague closed it and it roasted him alive.

It still freaks me out now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30114191

[SGR]

I think that's a bit of a generalization. You can be against fascism and not be a Marxist. The only ideology antifa has in common is "fascism is bad".

Sure, but I don't necessarily think antifa is against fascism, just because it's in their name and they like to self-style themselves as such. Their behavior and actions are practically no different than the fascist brownshirts of the '30s.

[Lexi Darling]

I don't doubt that there are some people who are like what you describe. But there are also people who are just... against fascism. In my experience antifa is a much broader category than you seem to give it credit for.

I'm staunchly against fascism, you're not going to convince me that anti-fascism is equally bad, so we might as well nip this in the bud lol.

[grindy]

Hell is other fascists.

[Psy-Fi]

Florida couple busted having sex in public in front of kids: 'Always a dream of mine'

A witness described the horny fornicators' encounter as "crack to sack, going to town"

[DJChameleon]

Damn it Bernie quit cock blocking.

I want to see the two old gentlemen scrap.

let them get it out of their system.

[Psy-Fi]

Damn it Bernie quit cock blocking.

I want to see the two old gentlemen scrap.

let them get it out of their system.

That would be some political viewing worth watching.

That Teamster President looks soft and out of shape. Senator Mullin looks like he could give him a thorough smack down.

[DJChameleon]

That would be some political viewing worth watching.

That Teamster President looks soft and out of shape. Senator Mullin looks like he could give him a thorough smack down.

The Teamster President has like a mob vibe to him. I think he would immediately look for the nearest object for a weapon to use and go to town on Senator Mullin. All I know is that it would be an awesome fight.

[Nimbly9]

[Lisnaholic]

That reminds me of a story of a man who walked into an industrial oven to clean it and a colleague closed it and it roasted him alive.

It still freaks me out now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30114191

Yeah, that's horrific, jimmy jazz 
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Here's a news item that is kind of upsetting:-

Does Buffy Sainte-Marie actually have indigenous North American ancestry? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67351680

It's quite a long article that seems to conclude. "No, but yes"

The "No" part is alarming as it implies that a folk icon and spokeswoman for indigenous rights/pride was all the while indulging in "cultural appropriation".   

[Psy-Fi]

Here's a news item that is kind of upsetting:-

Does Buffy Sainte-Marie actually have indigenous North American ancestry? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67351680

It's quite a long article that seems to conclude. "No, but yes"

The "No" part is alarming as it implies that a folk icon and spokeswoman for indigenous rights/pride was all the while indulging in "cultural appropriation".   

I read the CBC News story on this and she's definitely a fraud. Her real name is Beverly Jean Santamaria. I've lost count of how many white people I've met in North America throughout my life who've claimed to have some American Indian ancestry. It seems to have started in the 60's and became a trendy thing to claim for some people. Unlike most of those I've met, who tend to look whiter than a blizzard in January, at least "Buffy" looks like she could pass for the role of an American Indian in a movie or TV show.

Who is the real Buffy Sainte-Marie?

Santamaria

Santamaria (also spelled Santamaría or Santa Maria) is a surname from the Latin Arch in Europe. The name, a reference to the Blessed Virgin Mary meaning Holy Mary or Saint Mary, means the same thing in the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and Catalan languages. In Arabic, the equivalent name is Mariam. The surname has spread to the Americas, especially South America, via immigration and colonisation

[Lisnaholic]

I read the CBC News story on this and she's definitely a fraud. Her real name is Beverly Jean Santamaria. I've lost count of how many white people I've met in North America throughout my life who've claimed to have some American Indian ancestry. It seems to have started in the 60's and became a trendy thing to claim for some people. Unlike most of those I've met, who tend to look whiter than a blizzard in January, at least "Buffy" looks like she could pass for the role of an American Indian in a movie or TV show.

Who is the real Buffy Sainte-Marie?

Santamaria

^ Yes, it looks like the most important evidence shows her to have European ancestry

Sainte-Marie has a birth certificate in Stoneham, Massachusetts. That document allegedly indicates that Sainte-Marie - whose full name on the certificate is Beverley Jean Santamaria - was born to Albert, who was Italian-American, and Winifred Santamaria, whose parents had mostly English ancestry.

With the counter-argument being:-

in the early 1960s, she connected with a couple from Piapot First Nation in Saskatchewan, who eventually adopted her as one of their own.

The couple's granddaughter, Ntwanis Piapot, told Global News that the adoption process took several years and was done in Cree custom.
A statement by the family dismissed the CBC's investigation and affirmed that Sainte-Marie is a "beloved member" of the community.
"No one, including Canada and its governments, the Indian Act, institutions, media or any person anywhere can deny our family's inherent right to determine who is a member of our family and community," the family said.

It's an intriguing question, and this morning I listened to this song to try and work out how I felt about it:-

Should I worry that she's not the real deal? After all, when Elton John sang Rocket Man, I kind of guessed that he wasn't actually an astronaut.

Bottom Line: It would've been more honorable for her to turn down these awards, so that DNA-type indigenous musicians had a better chance:-

Throughout her career, Sainte-Marie has won various awards reserved for indigenous musicians, including four of Canada's indigenous lifetime achievement awards.