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Cold-blooded: Abandoned alligator rescued from Brooklyn lake (https://apnews.com/article/climate-and-environment-brooklyn-new-york-city-animals-f5914137cc03e5bfc1b88ca1a836c142)QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — It's no urban legend: An alligator was found in a chilly New York City lake on Sunday, far from the subtropical and tropical climates where such creatures thrive.
The 4-foot (1.2-meter) reptile was pulled from Prospect Park Lake in Brooklyn around 8:30 a.m. and taken to an animal care center and then the Bronx Zoo for medical treatment and rehabilitation.
City officials said the gator appeared lethargic and possibly cold shocked. It was likely dumped as an unwanted pet, they said. Releasing animals in city parks is illegal. Police are investigating.
For years, New Yorkers have pondered the myth that alligators roam the city's sewer system, even celebrating Alligators in the Sewers Day as an unofficial February holiday.
Sightings like Sunday's help keep the urban legend alive, but experts throw cold water on the sewer theory. Alligators aren't suited to the sewer system's frigid, toxic environment, they say.
Unwanted pet? Who keeps alligators as pets?
The Mysterious Case of Garfield Phones Washing Up on French Beaches Since the '80s Has Been Solved (https://time.com/5561165/garfield-phones-france/)QuoteFor 35 years, toy Garfield phones the color of macaroni and cheese have inexplicably washed up onto the beaches along the coastal waters of Brittany, France, and now we finally know why.
It appears they all came to Marine Nature Park from a shipping container that washed up into a cave after a storm.
On Friday, five members of Ar Viltansoù and journalists from FranceInfo visited the cave to discover the origins of the onslaught.
"I saw Garfield and container pieces all over the cave. But the bulk of the phones are already gone, the sea has done its job for thirty years. We arrive after the battle," the president of the local beach cleanup association, Viltansoù Simonin-Le Meur, said according to Le Monde.
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As many as 200 Garfield's sea-faring parts were discovered strewn across France's beaches just last year, according to FranceInfo.
https://apnews.com/article/4a51bb715334a989cc0046fe244c21bf
A central Florida television journalist and a little girl were fatally shot Wednesday afternoon near the scene of a fatal shooting from earlier in the day, authorities said.
https://apnews.com/article/38ea83109a8e97f263d7fc60367b39af
all extremist killings identified in 2022 were linked to right-wing extremism, with an especially high number linked to white supremacy
German ballet director suspended over feces attack on critic (https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-hannover-dance-02ec610e9fba3612cf08f4628ef7b0aa) :poop:
QuoteA German newspaper critic had animal feces smeared on her face in the city of Hannover by a ballet director who apparently took offense at a review she wrote.
The Hannover state opera house apologized for the incident and said Monday that it was suspending ballet director Marco Goecke with immediate effect.
Goecke said that while having his work "soiled for years" was a price he had been told he had to pay for being in the public eye, there was a limit.
I wonder how long the director was carrying around the animal feces beforehand.
Quote from: Janszoon on Feb 23, 2023, 07:30 PMI wonder how long the director was carrying around the animal feces beforehand.
Certainly adds new meaning to the term "brown-bagging" at work.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 23, 2023, 08:46 PMQuote from: Janszoon on Feb 23, 2023, 07:30 PMI wonder how long the director was carrying around the animal feces beforehand.
Certainly adds new meaning to the term "brown-bagging" at work.
:laughing:
https://apnews.com/article/789562253af9aca2c201207c877c5b5f
QuoteAt least 43 migrants died when their overcrowded wooden boat smashed into rocky reefs and broke apart off southern Italy before dawn Sunday, the Italian coast guard said. Survivors reportedly indicated that dozens more could be missing.
Italian President Sergio Mattarella noted that many of the migrants risking their lives on unseaworthy boats come from Afghanistan and Iran, "fleeing from conditions of great difficulty."
both afghanistan and iran were well on their ways to being fun decent places to live in the late sixties and early seventies
women were wearing jeans and sunglasses and people were listening to jazz and going to nightclubs and enjoying life
the histories are obviously complicated but western interference played a bug part of devastating both countries but you can also see a big push in religious fundamentalism in america and civil disarray that could leave us in a similar predicament if we're not careful- also i don't see how europe can absorb so many people from these cultures and still keep the diversity of the unique flavor of each country but that's their business- i definitely don't blame britain for brexit - even though i'll probably never return to japan i lived enough of my life there to love japan and i'm glad they're protective of the culture and keep stiff strict limits on immigration- i'd hate to see tokyo become as generic as london and paris
https://apnews.com/article/48d1f565c800139bb397bb886436968f
as states begin checking everyone's eligibility for Medicaid for the first time in three years, as many as 14 million people could lose access to that health care coverage
as far as i'm concerned any hospital or clinic that turns away the poor should be razed
Brexit hasn't changed much with regards to immigration in the UK. The numbers haven't changed, all it means is it is now more difficult for EU citizens to enter, and more hoops to jump through for Britons if they want to go the other way.
It was a lie sold to the public as 'vote Brexit and we'll have control over the borders'. The Tories don't care about it, they've been claiming they'll bring the numbers down in their last three manifestos and it hasn't happened.
There is plenty of food to go round though! Oh wait.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 26, 2023, 04:28 PMBrexit hasn't changed much with regards to immigration in the UK. The numbers haven't changed, all it means is it is now more difficult for EU citizens to enter, and more hoops to jump through for Britons if they want to go the other way.
It was a lie sold to the public as 'vote Brexit and we'll have control over the borders'. The Tories don't care about it, they've been claiming they'll bring the numbers down in their last three manifestos and it hasn't happened.
There is plenty of food to go round though! Oh wait.
not surprising but i appreciate you helping me keep it straight
Quote from: Janszoon on Feb 23, 2023, 08:47 PMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 23, 2023, 08:46 PMQuote from: Janszoon on Feb 23, 2023, 07:30 PMI wonder how long the director was carrying around the animal feces beforehand.
Certainly adds new meaning to the term "brown-bagging" at work.
:laughing:
Also lends new meaning to getting shitfaced!
Ah, the wild and down and dirty world of ballet: just another day in the cesspool that is interpretive dance.
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 26, 2023, 03:52 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/48d1f565c800139bb397bb886436968f
as states begin checking everyone's eligibility for Medicaid for the first time in three years, as many as 14 million people could lose access to that health care coverage
as far as i'm concerned any hospital or clinic that turns away the poor should be razed
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/25/business/long-covid-workforce-issues-disability-claims
Long Covid disabled them. Then they met a 'broken' Social Security disability processmore on american hospitals refusing to treat the poor
if they don't treat the poor they should be destroyed
Also, on Brexit: selfish if you like, but one effect it has had for me is that now if I buy something from the UK I have to pay VAT, whereas before I did not, as the UK was part of Europe and covered by the agreement between EU nations after the Single European Act and the Maastricht Treaty. Basically, it's no longer worth buying from the UK unless the item is quite cheap. I think the UK may have lost a lot of business from European buyers due to this. Why buy from Britain when you can probably get it at the same price from Spain or France or Germany, or even if it is a little more expensive, it still makes sense when you don't have to pay VAT?
I know you know and this is nitpicking, but the UK is still part of Europe.
Quoteselfish if you like, but one effect it has had for me is that now if I buy something from the UK I have to pay VAT, whereas before I did not, as the UK was part of Europe
that's not selfish - sales taxes are regressive and disproportionately injure the poor
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/24/americas/mexico-asylum-policy-intl-latam
QuoteThe US proposal – which has been panned by human rights advocates and immigration experts – largely bars migrants who have not taken a legal pathway and instead traveled through other countries on their way to the US southern border from applying for asylum in the US. It would take effect in May.
i was so happy when biden won and i voted for him but i'm really REALLY tired of his Trump 2.0 presidency
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 26, 2023, 05:03 PMI know you know and this is nitpicking, but the UK is still part of Europe.
Yeah but not financially or in trade agreement sense. Basically they're excluded from the no-VAT-charged-on-EU-goods agreement, so they might as well not be part of it, as far as I'm concerned. Also, not that I care or would, but if I were to travel to the UK do I now need a passport? Not sure.
Ireland is still part of the EU, right?
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 26, 2023, 05:26 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 26, 2023, 05:03 PMI know you know and this is nitpicking, but the UK is still part of Europe.
Yeah but not financially or in trade agreement sense. Basically they're excluded from the no-VAT-charged-on-EU-goods agreement, so they might as well not be part of it, as far as I'm concerned. Also, not that I care or would, but if I were to travel to the UK do I now need a passport? Not sure.
No you don't and the same applies the other way.
I thought I would mention it in case anyone reads it and thinks the UK isn't part of Europe.
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Feb 26, 2023, 05:36 PMIreland is still part of the EU, right?
Yeah.
QuoteI thought I would mention it in case anyone reads it and thinks the UK isn't part of Europe.
When I went from England to France it did sort of feel like I was going to Europe though. As a kid I always thought of the UK as Europe but then in college I had a professor who made a big distinction between the UK and "the continent" so I thought oh I didn't know that was a big thing and it kind of stuck in my head. But yeah, I mean Japan is part of Asia and Greenland is America
Maybe the language had something to do with it.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 26, 2023, 06:13 PMMaybe the language had something to do with it.
yeah - it was nice to get to paris where people can actually speak english
https://apnews.com/article/3dbe15abc204f540711704f520bc4074
QuoteDozens of activists, including Greta Thunberg of neighboring Sweden, were blocking the entrance to Norway's energy ministry in Oslo Monday to protest a wind farm they say hinders the rights of the Sami indigenous people to raise reindeer in Arctic Norway.
damned if you do; damned if you don't
I wonder if they'll go down, down, down, down, down in history?
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 27, 2023, 01:52 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/3dbe15abc204f540711704f520bc4074
QuoteDozens of activists, including Greta Thunberg of neighboring Sweden, were blocking the entrance to Norway's energy ministry in Oslo Monday to protest a wind farm they say hinders the rights of the Sami indigenous people to raise reindeer in Arctic Norway.
damned if you do; damned if you don't
One of the old horror/sci-fi flicks I watched recently, had a group of native reindeer herders in the story, herding reindeer and battling a giant alien bigfoot creature in the snow.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 27, 2023, 05:36 PMOne of the old horror/sci-fi flicks I watched recently, had a group of native reindeer herders in the story, herding reindeer and battling a giant alien bigfoot creature in the snow.
Herding reindeer and battling a giant alien bigfoot creature is my typical Monday.
Not quite sure where to put this, but is this really necessary as a headline?
Transgender rapist jailed in Scotland for eight years (https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2023/0228/1359393-isla-bryson/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20230228)
I mean, the word. Couldn't they just have said "rapist jailed"? What difference does it really make if they're TG? It doesn't at all impact on the case - he was a man when he raped the women, which does not in any way lessen the severity of the offence, but why trumpet that they are now TG? Is this not just further reactionary scaremongering that will feed into the paranoia of anyone who thinks all trans people are potential rapists and child molesters?
It is relevant because they changed gender after arrest and were initially held in a women's prison, then moved into a men's one after public outrage.
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 06:40 PMNot quite sure where to put this, but is this really necessary as a headline?
Transgender rapist jailed in Scotland for eight years (https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2023/0228/1359393-isla-bryson/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20230228)
I mean, the word. Couldn't they just have said "rapist jailed"? What difference does it really make if they're TG? It doesn't at all impact on the case - he was a man when he raped the women, which does not in any way lessen the severity of the offence, but why trumpet that they are now TG? Is this not just further reactionary scaremongering that will feed into the paranoia of anyone who thinks all trans people are potential rapists and child molesters?
Yes, it's absolutely intentional. They are pushing a narrative to defame and dehumanize us so the general public won't protest when they ramp up their persecution.
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 06:40 PMNot quite sure where to put this, but is this really necessary as a headline?
Transgender rapist jailed in Scotland for eight years (https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2023/0228/1359393-isla-bryson/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20230228)
I mean, the word. Couldn't they just have said "rapist jailed"? What difference does it really make if they're TG? It doesn't at all impact on the case - he was a man when he raped the women, which does not in any way lessen the severity of the offence, but why trumpet that they are now TG? Is this not just further reactionary scaremongering that will feed into the paranoia of anyone who thinks all trans people are potential rapists and child molesters?
i disagree- the facts are the facts and reporters are duty bound to report the facts without fear or favor - good reporting answers who when where what and why - this clearly falls into the camp of who - plus it's relevant
QuoteThe case sparked uproar after Bryson was initially housed in an all-female prison and the rapist was then moved to the male estate.
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 06:53 PMi disagree- the facts are the facts and reporters are duty bound to report the facts without fear or favor - good reporting answers who when where what and why - this clearly falls into the camp of who - plus it's relevant
When a black person commits a crime they don't report it as "Black rapist jailed." We don't need to know every detail about a criminal's identity.
It is also worth pointing out that The Guardian (a left wing publication), is also using a similar headline and mentioning the trans aspect:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/28/trans-woman-isla-bryson-jailed-raping-two-women
And they would definitely not be partaking in trans fear mongering.
These articles are a development of the story that initially made the news when the offender was held in a women's prison and Nicola Sturgeon got involved.
In this particular case, yes her gender is relevant. I'm just talking about the headline that Trollheart posted. The headline itself, that is.
And there are plenty of leftists who are complicit in transphobia, whether it's intentionally malicious or not. The wording, drawing attention to her gender front and center, is what I'm talking about.
I apologize if I come off as overly paranoid and scrutinizing of publications; you tend to read into this stuff and be less trusting if your livelihood is currently threatened like mine is.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Feb 28, 2023, 06:57 PMQuote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 06:53 PMi disagree- the facts are the facts and reporters are duty bound to report the facts without fear or favor - good reporting answers who when where what and why - this clearly falls into the camp of who - plus it's relevant
When a black person commits a crime they don't report it as "Black rapist jailed." We don't need to know every detail about a criminal's identity.
they usually show a picture so it's self-evident
and they should use general descriptors - it's not their job to sheild people from fallout -
journalist shouldn't hide basic facts
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 07:04 PMthey usually show a picture so it's self-evident
and they should use general descriptors - it's not their job to sheild people from fallout -
journalist shouldn't hide basic facts
I'm talking more about drawing attention to the person's gender in the headline. In this particular case I conceded that the gender is relevant to the actual article but I stand by what I said about the wording of headlines in general.
when a journalist writes an article they should describe the person the same way they would be described in a normal conversation
who mugged you?
a white guy
a midget
a black guy
a trans person
a priest
a homeless guy
a whatever the person is
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 07:12 PMwhen a journalist writes an article they should describe the person the same way they would be described in a normal conversation
who mugged you?
a white guy
a midget
a black guy
a trans person
a priest
a homeless guy
a whatever the person is
I agree, but you don't have to put it as the first word in the headline if it's not relevant (I know this particular case it is). Maybe it's not intentionally pushing the anti-trans agenda, but it does have an effect on what Joe Public gets out of the article.
Yes. Unbelievable that it's still necessary to explain that. Also, saying you want to know who a criminal is is fine and all but it's a useless argument because you can't give literally all information about someone; you have to select. In particular, you have to select the most relevant information. Saying that you think the trans bit should be mentioned only indicates that you think it's somehow very relevant to either the crime or the person. If it's the latter it's understandable, but at least people should question these things about themselves. Saying that it's because 'you want to know who someone is' distracts from that introspection
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 07:12 PMwhen a journalist writes an article they should describe the person the same way they would be described in a normal conversation
Journalists have never done that. No one, in normal conversation, would describe their neighbor as "local man, 37".
The point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
journalists report facts
get over it people
Quoteif it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay?
only if he's mexican
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 08:26 PMjournalists report facts
get over it people
Come on now that's bollocks and you know it.
It's also NOT a fact, as I've already pointed out. It's twisting the truth into something it isn't.
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 08:10 PMThe point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
The fact the offender is trans is central to the story. It isn't the fact they committed rapes, it's the question of whether they should have been held in a female prison. That's why it became a big news story and why Sturgeon got involved. If you remove the mess that happened with custody then you may have a point but it isn't the case.
Were you aware of this case before you read the article you posted?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 28, 2023, 09:42 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 08:10 PMThe point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
The fact the offender is trans is central to the story. It isn't the fact they committed rapes, it's the question of whether they should have been held in a female prison. That's why it became a big news story and why Sturgeon got involved. If you remove the mess that happened with custody then you may have a point but it isn't the case.
Were you aware of this case before you read the article you posted?
mostly the american press is pretty good at calling it like it is but the british press suppresses information to protect minorities
hate is also intersectional one minority can target other minorities
a lot of blacks are homophobic- if a group of black youth target a queer it should be reported that way
it's up the reader to decide if it's relevant- if they're worried that readers will become unduly alarmed over the facts they can write an editorial about it
but excuding information is an editorial bias and doesn't belong is basic news stories- including a fact cannot be an editorial bias because editorials are opinions
a trans person or a mexican or whoever commits a crime then reporting that information is reporting a fact -intentionally omitting the information is to make an editorial decision that one group specifically needs to be protected and they should compromise themselves as journalists to provide that shelter
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 10:14 PMexcuding information is an editorial bias and doesn't belong is basic news stories- including a fact cannot be an editorial bias because editorials are opinions
It
can be editorial bias, but the reality is that information is excluded all the time. Someone's fingernail length or the style of their front door or how many parakeets they own or a million other details are probably not going to make it into the paper and its not about bias, it's about relevance.
Quote from: Janszoon on Feb 28, 2023, 10:33 PMQuote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 10:14 PMexcuding information is an editorial bias and doesn't belong is basic news stories- including a fact cannot be an editorial bias because editorials are opinions
It can be editorial bias, but the reality is that information is excluded all the time. Someone's fingernail length or the style of their front door or how many parakeets they own or a million other details are probably not going to make it into the paper and its not about bias, it's about relevance.
you're right
my argument isnt very sound
:laughing:
Quote from: Dreams on Feb 28, 2023, 10:49 PMmy argument isnt very sound
You should make this your signature.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 28, 2023, 09:42 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 08:10 PMThe point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
The fact the offender is trans is central to the story. It isn't the fact they committed rapes, it's the question of whether they should have been held in a female prison. That's why it became a big news story and why Sturgeon got involved. If you remove the mess that happened with custody then you may have a point but it isn't the case.
Were you aware of this case before you read the article you posted?
then why isn't the title something like 'transitioning criminal leads to prison transfer dilemma' or whatever? Can't you really see the issue?
Quote from: Marie Monday on Feb 28, 2023, 11:21 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 28, 2023, 09:42 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 08:10 PMThe point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
The fact the offender is trans is central to the story. It isn't the fact they committed rapes, it's the question of whether they should have been held in a female prison. That's why it became a big news story and why Sturgeon got involved. If you remove the mess that happened with custody then you may have a point but it isn't the case.
Were you aware of this case before you read the article you posted?
then why isn't the title something like 'transitioning criminal leads to prison transfer dilemma' or whatever? Can't you really see the issue?
Cos it isn't talking about the dilemma it's talking about the sentence.
Have you been following this case?
I fail to see how you can't see my point.
I'm not saying the person is not a rapist BUT they were NOT a Trans WHILE or BEFORE the rape. Therefore to say they are a Transgender Rapist is factually incorrect and hurtful to other trans people. Look at it this way. Say, I don't know, a soldier raped someone before enlisting. Did a soldier then rape someone, or did a person WHO THEN WENT ON TO BE A SOLDIER rape someone? And if the latter should the headline be "Soldier raped woman" or "Man raped woman" or even "Man who is now soldier raped woman"? If it's the first, then the entire army gets dragged into it by association. This is what's happening here. They're making a link, a leap that is not true. The actual headline should be simply: "Man gets 8 years for rape" but that's not exciting, click-baity or controversial enough is it? So we'll say instead "transgender gets 8 years for rape" and immediately the idea is planted, in many minds, that transgenders rape women.
I know what your point is and I don't agree with it. I already explained why.
It sounds like you only just became aware of this story today from the one article you posted and that's why you see it the way you do, even though it has been in the news for a while for the reasons I already pointed out, you just haven't been aware of the back story and why it is relevant. As I said, if there hadn't been uproar because of what prison she was initially sent to, and then the move to the men's prison, then no the fact she is trans wouldn't be relevant. But unfortunately it is.
Also this bit:
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 01, 2023, 02:27 AMThey're making a link, a leap that is not true. The actual headline should be simply: "Man gets 8 years for rape" but that's not exciting, click-baity or controversial enough is it? So we'll say instead "transgender gets 8 years for rape" and immediately the idea is planted, in many minds, that transgenders rape women.
She doesn't identify as a man... You think they should deny their right to identify as trans because they committed a crime? I'm sure some would argue that that is transphobic.
Article: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-63823420
They don't identify as a man now. But they only started the hormone treatment after the crime. They would have been tried as a man at the time. Not trans. At best, transitioning.
All right, I'm not going to keep arguing this. You see it one way, I see it another. For me, the headline is clickbait and an incitement to hatred. For those who want to read into it what they want to, they'll only see trans rapes woman and make their completely uninformed conclusions based on that. I mean, the story is one thing. I get that and no I haven't been following it and no I don't know what the answer is. But the headline is just wrong. It screams TRANS PEOPLE ARE RAPISTS in exactly the same way as a certain orange bastard claimed all those south of the border were.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 28, 2023, 11:24 PMQuote from: Marie Monday on Feb 28, 2023, 11:21 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 28, 2023, 09:42 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Feb 28, 2023, 08:10 PMThe point here is that this person is NOT a trans rapist. When the rape was committed they were a man (though identifying as a woman from age four, not really relevant though). THEN later they transitioned. This headline makes it seem that someone raped two women AS A TRANS which is not the case. It gives fuel to these brain-dead idiots who will point to the headline and say "See? We told you! They're all rapists!" I mean, if it said Mexican rapist, would you think that was okay? I think placing the two highly-charged words right beside each other is deliberate, intended to cause controversy and is the worst kind of hate-mongering click bait there is. Fuck those guys. It didn't need to be written that way AND it's inaccurate and untrue.
Bryson was convicted last month of raping two women - one in Clydebank in 2016 and one in Drumchapel, Glasgow, in 2019 - and committed the offences while a man known as Adam Graham.
The 31-year-old, from Clydebank, met both the victims online and prosecutors said Bryson had "preyed" on vulnerable women.
The fact the offender is trans is central to the story. It isn't the fact they committed rapes, it's the question of whether they should have been held in a female prison. That's why it became a big news story and why Sturgeon got involved. If you remove the mess that happened with custody then you may have a point but it isn't the case.
Were you aware of this case before you read the article you posted?
then why isn't the title something like 'transitioning criminal leads to prison transfer dilemma' or whatever? Can't you really see the issue?
Cos it isn't talking about the dilemma it's talking about the sentence.
Have you been following this case?
first you say the female prison bit is the central thing, now it's the sentence. But in both cases, my criticism of the title choice still applies: you say the rape is not important, so why is it in the title and why is the trans bit connected to that instead of the female prison thing? It is not an accurate reflection about the main point of the story; just unnecessary fearmongering. Whether I've followed the case is irrelevant, just try to see my point.
No you misunderstood. That particular article is more of an update and is talking about the sentence, the reason this is in the news in the first place is because of the gender thing.
You lot are looking very, very hard for something that isn't there.
What title would you have gone with?
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 01, 2023, 03:52 AMThey don't identify as a man now. But they only started the hormone treatment after the crime. They would have been tried as a man at the time. Not trans. At best, transitioning.
She was tried as a woman. Read the articles.
QuoteBryson made the decision to transition from a man to a woman while awaiting trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/sport/vermont-basketball-transgender-athlete-spt-intl
Girls high school basketball team forfeits tournament rather than play against transgender player
more transorama
desantis is all over these stories like ants on candy
this one is an almost impossible sell to the typical american sports fans and americans love sports
even if they don't get the revenue and tv time as men's sports at the high school level parents are crazy about it
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 01:48 PMNo you misunderstood. That particular article is more of an update and is talking about the sentence, the reason this is in the news in the first place is because of the gender thing.
You lot are looking very, very hard for something that isn't there.
What title would you have gone with?
cis het man was a rapist until he transformed into a beautiful transgender angel
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 01, 2023, 01:51 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/sport/vermont-basketball-transgender-athlete-spt-intl
Girls high school basketball team forfeits tournament rather than play against transgender player
more transorama
desantis is all over these stories like ants on candy
this one is an almost impossible sell to the typical american sports fans and americans love sports
even if they don't get the revenue and tv time as men's sports at the high school level parents are crazy about it
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5cgrK6g/Deadspin-Map-2023.png) (https://postimg.cc/NKKpttJ7)
Is Your State's Highest-Paid Employee A Coach? (Probably) (https://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 01, 2023, 02:05 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 01, 2023, 01:51 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/sport/vermont-basketball-transgender-athlete-spt-intl
Girls high school basketball team forfeits tournament rather than play against transgender player
more transorama
desantis is all over these stories like ants on candy
this one is an almost impossible sell to the typical american sports fans and americans love sports
even if they don't get the revenue and tv time as men's sports at the high school level parents are crazy about it
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5cgrK6g/Deadspin-Map-2023.png) (https://postimg.cc/NKKpttJ7)
Is Your State's Highest-Paid Employee A Coach? (Probably) (https://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228)
those blue states all have garbage college athletics too
shame on them
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 01:48 PMNo you misunderstood. That particular article is more of an update and is talking about the sentence, the reason this is in the news in the first place is because of the gender thing.
You lot are looking very, very hard for something that isn't there.
What title would you have gone with?
no thank you I'm not gonna come up with a title that requires reading up on this whole thing. My point is very simple. What that title conveys is 'a transgender person raped someone and is going to jail now'. That does not adequately capture what you said the article is mainly about. What it conveys (whether it's intentional or not doesn't matter) is that it's newsworthy (read: important, or a reason for general concern) that a transgender person has raped someone. The same goes for that guardian title you mentioned earlier actually. I'm not looking for anything far-fetched, if you still don't see this then I don't know how to explain it to you
Also, just to make sure it's not being misunderstood: I'm not saying the trans bit should not be mentioned in the headline, since in this particular case it's relevant. I'm saying the headline should reflect better why it is relevant, which is not just the fact that a trans person has raped someone.
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 01, 2023, 01:56 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 01:48 PMNo you misunderstood. That particular article is more of an update and is talking about the sentence, the reason this is in the news in the first place is because of the gender thing.
You lot are looking very, very hard for something that isn't there.
What title would you have gone with?
cis het man was a rapist until he transformed into a beautiful transgender angel
is that your attempt at being witty?
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 01, 2023, 08:30 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 01:48 PMNo you misunderstood. That particular article is more of an update and is talking about the sentence, the reason this is in the news in the first place is because of the gender thing.
You lot are looking very, very hard for something that isn't there.
What title would you have gone with?
no thank you I'm not gonna come up with a title that requires reading up on this whole thing. My point is very simple. What that title conveys is 'a transgender person raped someone and is going to jail now'. That does not adequately capture what you said the article is mainly about. What it conveys (whether it's intentional or not doesn't matter) is that it's newsworthy (read: important, or a reason for general concern) that a transgender person has raped someone. The same goes for that guardian title you mentioned earlier actually. I'm not looking for anything far-fetched, if you still don't see this then I don't know how to explain it to you
The article is an update on an ongoing story and the title captures it fine.
You're completely ignoring relevant details which I've already said if you took out, then yes you may have a point. But they're there. What they had for breakfast isn't relevant, how they wipe their arse isn't relevant. But because of the issue over which prison she was held in and the transitioning before trial, that makes it relevant.
QuoteAlso, just to make sure it's not being misunderstood: I'm not saying the trans bit should not be mentioned in the headline, since in this particular case it's relevant. I'm saying the headline should reflect better why it is relevant, which is not just the fact that a trans person has raped someone.
Well tell us what you would have gone with. You can see why it is relevant once you read the article.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 08:47 PMYou're completely ignoring relevant details which I've already said if you took out, then yes you may have a point.
what
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 08:47 PMWell tell us what you would have gone with.
I already told you I'm not reading up on it. If you do have the energy and you instst you can summarise the article for me
in the meantime, I've already discussed what the title conveys. It contains 3 facts: 1. someone committed rape 2. this person is trans 3. they're going to jail in Scotland. Nothing more. Combined with the fact that this is a headline (implying it's newsworthy) this means that the title conveys that the fact that (specifically) a trans person has committed a rape in itself is enough of a general source of concern to be newsworthy. If that would be an accurate representation of the story, the story would be transphobic: it would not be news in the same manner if the rapist were cisgender. Things are different when there are actual reasons why the trans identity is relevant, which you confirm to be the case. But then the title, as explained above, doesn't reflect that.
i find it helpful to read an article before forming an opinion on it
I'm not forming an opinion on the article but on the title, which I've read, you absolute oaf
You OK Marie? 😯
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 01, 2023, 09:53 PMI'm not forming an opinion on the article but on the title, which I've read, you absolute oaf
personally i'd be embarrassed
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 10:08 PMYou OK Marie? 😯
don't forget to verify that she's actually read the question before you read her answer
She read exactly what she was criticizing, as did I. I don't know what's so funny here. We were referring to how the headline reads and the impression it gives, only that.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 01, 2023, 10:08 PMYou OK Marie? 😯
oh yeah that's just how I have grown to talk to Hawk over the years. Sorry if I sound snappish towards you though, you seem friendly but I kind of feel like I'm talking to a wall
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 01, 2023, 10:08 PMQuote from: Marie Monday on Mar 01, 2023, 09:53 PMI'm not forming an opinion on the article but on the title, which I've read, you absolute oaf
personally i'd be embarrassed
you should be embarrassed more often, it would stop you from your attempts at wittiness
jj - could you tell me what my opinion is on these comments- i don't want to have to read them myself and come up with my own conclusions
thanks
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 01, 2023, 10:19 PMyou should be embarrassed more often, it would stop you from your attempts at wittiness
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seriously, this is like the time you didn't understand what I was saying about quantum mechanics and then you tried to accuse me of embarrassing myself
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 01, 2023, 10:27 PMseriously, this is like the time you didn't understand what I was saying about quantum mechanics and then you tried to accuse me of embarrassing myself
you literally said matter could be created lol
dude come on, don't tell me you've forgotten the whole discussion
for anyone interested, I pointed out that matter can spontaneously be created out of vacuum in for instance electron/positron pairs. I never claimed matter isn't conserved, which was the original misunderstanding
i mentioned the law of conservation of matter/energy specifically in a discussion on why technology cannot overcome and endless exponential population growth and you and elph laughed and claimed matter could indeed be created
you weren't saying anything about electrons
that's the reason i left discord because the discourse was so stupid (like having opinions on things you haven't read) that i felt it was beneath me- and that you actually taught physics makes it even funnier
that's a radical revision of history. I remember that I did actually mention electrons and positrons but that doesn't even matter. I wasn't discussing the whole technology thing with you either, that was Elph. Somewhere in that discussion he pointed out that matter can be created and I just chimed in to point out that that was correct
just because you googled some esoteric experiment doesn't change that you chimed in to claim matter can be created which is fundamentally false
https://apnews.com/article/55d0a9d504a49b062f56c1d09e662fd8
QuoteIn a case that reflects Hawaii's nuanced and complicated relationship with race, two Native Hawaiian men are scheduled to be sentenced Thursday for a federal hate crime in the brutal beating of a white man who tried to move into their remote, traditional fishing village.
if people want their space don't infringe
that goes for appalachian white folks and radical feminists too
folks need to stay in their lane
there will be a sweeping famine across western europe and north america
https://apnews.com/article/012ea0d4fc1678f900db970b109d3ba0
QuotePeople in the U.K. have had to ration salad staples like tomatoes and cucumbers for the past two weeks amid a shortage of fresh vegetables. Shelves of fresh produce in many stores have been bare, and most major supermarkets have imposed limits on how many salad bags or bell peppers customers are allowed to buy.
overpopulation, climate change, supply chain issues, and the inability of technology to create matter equals we're all gonna be losing a lot of weight
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 03:02 PMif people want their space don't infringe
that goes for appalachian white folks and radical feminists too
folks need to stay in their lane
Um, are you seriously saying these guys were right to beat someone up because they didn't want him there? Am I reading correctly? This is okay to you? Like a white guy in Harlem getting beaten up by the residents is alright? Or a black guy in, I don't know, the Hamptons?
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 03:07 PMQuotePeople in the U.K. have had to ration salad staples like tomatoes and cucumbers for the past two weeks amid a shortage of fresh vegetables. Shelves of fresh produce in many stores have been bare, and most major supermarkets have imposed limits on how many salad bags or bell peppers customers are allowed to buy.
overpopulation, climate change, supply chain issues, and the inability of technology to create matter equals we're all gonna be losing a lot of weight
Haven't seen this here. Bought tomatoes today and there was no shortage. Maybe it is Brexit-linked. Guess everyone is going to be eating MacDonalds then - weight will increase rather than decrease. Maybe they'll begin hunting each other through the streets of London for food. Lack of veg wouldnt' bother me anyway; veg and me, we each keep, as you so charmingly say, in our lane.
QuoteUm, are you seriously saying these guys were right to beat someone up because they didn't want him there?
yes
rich white people have been stealing hawaiian land for long enough
zuckerberg is the most egregious example but absolutely 100% yes - these people have a right to their space and culture and unwanted intruders should be dealt with however they see fit
QuoteLike a white guy in Harlem getting beaten up by the residents is alright?
in the early days before it was gentrified they should've killed whites who bought up the property
same with flatbush and now with bed-stuy
QuoteOr a black guy in, I don't know, the Hamptons?
the hamptons should be returned to the Shinnecock
Is this a wind-up or is this guy just around the twist? I mean, read it.
A Michigan man allegedly threatened on social media to kill Jewish members of the Michigan government, the FBI said, and state Attorney General Dana Nessel says she was among those targeted.
Jack Eugene Carpenter III is accused in a criminal complaint of making threatening interstate communications when he tweeted last month a threat to "carry out the punishment of death to anyone that is jewish in the Michigan govt if they don't leave, or confess, and now that kind of problem. Because I can Legally do that, right?"
He seems to be under the impression, for some reason, that it's legal to kill someone just because they're Jewish. Does he think we're in Nazi Germany again? Like, I know USA is headed there, but you know, wait till they get the place looking nice and done up in late modern fascist with all that nice black and red before you start thinking along those lines, yes?
If he actually thinks he can do this, is that an indication he's off his trolley or is he just one of these who lives in his own personal reality where the law doesn't apply to them? Or has someone actually been spreading this kind of hate-filled garbage around the interweb? I mean, I know they are but has someone intimated it's somehow within the law to to do this?
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 06:20 PMQuoteUm, are you seriously saying these guys were right to beat someone up because they didn't want him there?
yes
rich white people have been stealing hawaiian land for long enough
zuckerberg is the most egregious example but absolutely 100% yes - these people have a right to their space and culture and unwanted intruders should be dealt with however they see fit
QuoteLike a white guy in Harlem getting beaten up by the residents is alright?
in the early days before it was gentrified they should've killed whites who bought up the property
same with flatbush and now with bed-stuy
QuoteOr a black guy in, I don't know, the Hamptons?
the hamptons should be returned to the Shinnecock
Okay that's cool. You're a lost cause then. No point in arguing any further. Just wanted to check. ::)
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 03:02 PMjust because you googled some esoteric experiment doesn't change that you chimed in to claim matter can be created which is fundamentally false
googled an esoteric experiment? What are you on about. Anyway, I just explained to you that it's not fundamentally false, even many people without a degree in physics could tell you that, but I'm not going over it again
i think he was making the point that ye should be arrested but got himself in hot water in the process
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 02, 2023, 06:30 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 03:02 PMjust because you googled some esoteric experiment doesn't change that you chimed in to claim matter can be created which is fundamentally false
googled an esoteric experiment? What are you on about. Anyway, I just explained to you that it's not fundamentally false, even many people without a degree in physics could tell you that, but I'm not going over it again
preciate it
I think it might be an idea if members refrained from carrying arguments, debates or differences from discussions they had in Music Banter over here. It's counter-productive, and it will only result in, at some point, one or other of the parties having to copy and paste something from MB, which isn't going to be helpful. I would ask everyone here, insofar as possible, and with regard to previous issues between people, to try to start here with a clean slate and not to bring up old rivalries or issues. I just think it would be better.
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Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 06:32 PMQuote from: Marie Monday on Mar 02, 2023, 06:30 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 03:02 PMjust because you googled some esoteric experiment doesn't change that you chimed in to claim matter can be created which is fundamentally false
googled an esoteric experiment? What are you on about. Anyway, I just explained to you that it's not fundamentally false, even many people without a degree in physics could tell you that, but I'm not going over it again
preciate it
Hold up though you mean you were calling election/positron pair creation an esoteric experiment I googled? Mate that is a standard undergraduate textbook physics phenomenon
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 07:02 PMI think it might be an idea if members refrained from carrying arguments, debates or differences from discussions they had in Music Banter over here. It's counter-productive, and it will only result in, at some point, one or other of the parties having to copy and paste something from MB, which isn't going to be helpful. I would ask everyone here, insofar as possible, and with regard to previous issues between people, to try to start here with a clean slate and not to bring up old rivalries or issues. I just think it would be better.
I don't really agree. Fundamentally, this is the same as if we were a group of people who knew each other irl and it wouldn't work that way there either. I'm all for a clean slate when it means forgiving or burying old grudges but you can't just erase history because this forum has a different name
I think in this case, the two of you renewing an argument you had on MB - and due to which, apparently, one of you left - is somewhat pointless. If you want to reference, shall we say, bad blood spilled on MB, I personally think MB is a better place to take it up. I'm not saying you can't do it, I just don't see how it helps anything. But you're not prohibited from doing it or anything. It just seems like the two of you are opening up old wounds and the blood is spilling out here, and there will be people here who have not got a clue what you're referencing.
Quotethe two of you are opening up old wounds
i ain't bring it up plus i said "preciate it" when the offer was (falsely) made to drop it
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 06:05 PMHaven't seen this here. Bought tomatoes today and there was no shortage. Maybe it is Brexit-linked. Guess everyone is going to be eating MacDonalds then - weight will increase rather than decrease. Maybe they'll begin hunting each other through the streets of London for food. Lack of veg wouldnt' bother me anyway; veg and me, we each keep, as you so charmingly say, in our lane.
Well it's not happening anywhere else in Europe is it? So yes I'd say Brexit has something to do with it.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 02, 2023, 07:54 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 07:02 PMI think it might be an idea if members refrained from carrying arguments, debates or differences from discussions they had in Music Banter over here. It's counter-productive, and it will only result in, at some point, one or other of the parties having to copy and paste something from MB, which isn't going to be helpful. I would ask everyone here, insofar as possible, and with regard to previous issues between people, to try to start here with a clean slate and not to bring up old rivalries or issues. I just think it would be better.
I don't really agree. Fundamentally, this is the same as if we were a group of people who knew each other irl and it wouldn't work that way there either. I'm all for a clean slate when it means forgiving or burying old grudges but you can't just erase history because this forum has a different name
I'm really not that bothered, as long as it doesn't escalate. But the actual analogy would be that it's like the two of you walking into a room of friends and acquaintainces, some of who you know and some of whom you don't, and starting - or rather, restarting - an argument that many people in the room don't understand. If you consider that others here may have not been on MB at the time, and maybe, if we're lucky, others from outside of MB may come here, then this will all be new to them.
But whatever. Just keep it civil I guess.
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 09:10 PMQuote from: Marie Monday on Mar 02, 2023, 07:54 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 07:02 PMI think it might be an idea if members refrained from carrying arguments, debates or differences from discussions they had in Music Banter over here. It's counter-productive, and it will only result in, at some point, one or other of the parties having to copy and paste something from MB, which isn't going to be helpful. I would ask everyone here, insofar as possible, and with regard to previous issues between people, to try to start here with a clean slate and not to bring up old rivalries or issues. I just think it would be better.
I don't really agree. Fundamentally, this is the same as if we were a group of people who knew each other irl and it wouldn't work that way there either. I'm all for a clean slate when it means forgiving or burying old grudges but you can't just erase history because this forum has a different name
I'm really not that bothered, as long as it doesn't escalate. But the actual analogy would be that it's like the two of you walking into a room of friends and acquaintainces, some of who you know and some of whom you don't, and starting - or rather, restarting - an argument that many people in the room don't understand. If you consider that others here may have not been on MB at the time, and maybe, if we're lucky, others from outside of MB may come here, then this will all be new to them.
But whatever. Just keep it civil I guess.
i personally don't want mb2.0 and support leaving that baggage in that terminal
if it's just going to be the same garbage why bother being "something completely different"
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 02, 2023, 06:20 PMQuoteUm, are you seriously saying these guys were right to beat someone up because they didn't want him there?
yes
rich white people have been stealing hawaiian land for long enough
zuckerberg is the most egregious example but absolutely 100% yes - these people have a right to their space and culture and unwanted intruders should be dealt with however they see fit
QuoteLike a white guy in Harlem getting beaten up by the residents is alright?
in the early days before it was gentrified they should've killed whites who bought up the property
same with flatbush and now with bed-stuy
QuoteOr a black guy in, I don't know, the Hamptons?
the hamptons should be returned to the Shinnecock
You'd support violence and murder. That makes me curious. What are the principles behind this moral theory or values? Are violence and murder good consequences or
right consequences or both?
right consequences
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 12:36 AMright consequences
Then who decides that it's right?
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 08:03 PMI think in this case, the two of you renewing an argument you had on MB - and due to which, apparently, one of you left - is somewhat pointless. If you want to reference, shall we say, bad blood spilled on MB, I personally think MB is a better place to take it up. I'm not saying you can't do it, I just don't see how it helps anything. But you're not prohibited from doing it or anything. It just seems like the two of you are opening up old wounds and the blood is spilling out here, and there will be people here who have not got a clue what you're referencing.
that's an exaggerated view of it, I think. I certainly don't have old wounds about this and I brought the thing up because I thought it would be a quick example of the point I was making. I never intended or expected to have the whole discussion again, my posts make that clear I think.
@Hawk I didn't promise any such thing, I just wasn't going over the explanation again. That doesn't include funny realisations. I'm not looking for tedious arguments though
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 03, 2023, 02:13 AMQuote from: Trollheart on Mar 02, 2023, 08:03 PMI think in this case, the two of you renewing an argument you had on MB - and due to which, apparently, one of you left - is somewhat pointless. If you want to reference, shall we say, bad blood spilled on MB, I personally think MB is a better place to take it up. I'm not saying you can't do it, I just don't see how it helps anything. But you're not prohibited from doing it or anything. It just seems like the two of you are opening up old wounds and the blood is spilling out here, and there will be people here who have not got a clue what you're referencing.
that's an exaggerated view of it, I think. I certainly don't have old wounds about this and I brought the thing up because I thought it would be a quick example of the point I was making. I never intended or expected to have the whole discussion again, my posts make that clear I think.
@Hawk I didn't promise any such thing, I just wasn't going over the explanation again. That doesn't include funny realisations. I'm not looking for tedious arguments though
you didn't want to talk about the thing you brought up and you do want to talk about the thing you don't want to talk about - got it
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asbury-university-revival-potential-measles-exposure-20000-people/
CDC says 20,000 people may have been exposed to measles at Asbury University religious revival
i don't understand why people can't understand that spreading a deadly disease is far worse than a single incident mass shooting
no tolerance for antivaxxism should exist at all
just hold them down and vaccinate them - if the struggle is too difficult just drone strike their house or whatever
a bullet can only kill one person- a pathogen can spread indefinitely and kill countless people and even mutate into something worse
i have no idea why people think it's ok to kill an active shooter but not a disease spreader - it doesn't make any sense
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 01:29 AMQuote from: Guybrush on Mar 03, 2023, 12:39 AMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 12:36 AMright consequences
Then who decides that it's right?
me
Okay, I had the impression you were religious, which is why I asked.
I hope my probing isn't too annoying, but why is it right? Like if someone moves into a neighborhood where most residents have similar ethnicity and the people moving in have a different ethnicity, it's okay that they are targeted for violence or murder. Why would that be?
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 02:22 AMyou didn't want to talk about the thing you brought up and you do want to talk about the thing you don't want to talk about - got it
as usual, you don't get it at all but decide to get confrontational nonetheless
Quote from: Guybrush on Mar 03, 2023, 06:49 AMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 01:29 AMQuote from: Guybrush on Mar 03, 2023, 12:39 AMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 12:36 AMright consequences
Then who decides that it's right?
me
Okay, I had the impression you were religious, which is why I asked.
I hope my probing isn't too annoying, but why is it right? Like if someone moves into a neighborhood where most residents have similar ethnicity and the people moving in have a different ethnicity, it's okay that they are targeted for violence or murder. Why would that be?
because gentrification is a form of systematic state sponsored violence when the original occupants are priced out of their dwellings and forced to assimilate into a culture that they are not rooted in
self-defense is the most desirable kind of violence- in the case of the hawaiians gentrification has become nearly genocidal so rejecting it violently is completely reasonable
the pricing minorities out of manhattan and sf is the most successful segregation effort in american history since the original genocide
white racists in alabama don't even come close to the complete exclusion rich liberals who likely preach diversity have in place - they have their properties gated walled guarded gated again walled again and layered with an extra set of guards - they exclude the minorities without even having to acknowledge that they're doing it because they have so many barriers between themselves and the ones they're afraid of that it surpasses the physical so completely the other isn't even registered in their thoughts as real
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-bill-require-bloggers-write-governor-legislators-register-stat-rcna73191
Florida bill would require bloggers who write about the governor and legislators to register with the state
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 01:29 PMhttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-bill-require-bloggers-write-governor-legislators-register-stat-rcna73191
Florida bill would require bloggers who write about the governor and legislators to register with the state
Does that include out of state residents? How would they enforce it, by invading Illinois?
QuoteThe bill defines a blog as "a website or webpage that hosts any blogger and is frequently updated with opinion, commentary, or business content," but it says the "term does not include the website of a newspaper or other similar publication."
Way too vague to get passed into law tbh. Every opinion piece I see out there being pushed on Facebook and other platform feeds look like they come from major news sites like NBC, The Daily Beast, The Daily Wire, CNN, Fox, etc. They're essentially saying "Well if your organization has a physical newspaper component that you send out to people / subscribers , your basically above this law."
While I think it would be worth exploring to have more transparency in the journalism world overall, such as who is paid what to write X hit piece and if they were paid by like, say, dark money left or right wing organizations for example, a bill like this isn't going to achieve that kind of outcome. It is ineffectual at best, and that's fairly charitable coming from me lol.
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 10:33 AMbecause gentrification is a form of systematic state sponsored violence when the original occupants are priced out of their dwellings and forced to assimilate into a culture that they are not rooted in
Gentrification isn't a big topic here and I'm not well versed in it, but isn't it more or less just driven by the regular greed / capitalism? Housing in an area that has lower standards will generally be cheaper and that creates incentives for buying.
There's an interesting difference between the US and Norway which I expect really super charges the US' problems with gentification. There seems to be a lot of renting going on in the US? Here, most people by far buy their houses. There's little renting going on and renting a place to live is generally considered to be a waste of money. After all, if you can loan money from the bank, buy a house and pay back that loan every month, the amount of money you pay may not be that different from renting, but it of course has the significant upside that for every down payment on the loan, you own a little more of the house you're in.
This means that if gentrification improves your area and drives the value of your property up, that's something you gain. But I'm just gonna assume that gentrification, if you're renting, is more likely to drive the rent up and leave you poorer than you were. You might not afford to live there anymore. So this little detail (owning vs. renting) could become really significant.
The way the system's set up making it harder for poorer people to get loans is such a classic example of how it can ironically be expensive to be poor. It just feeds into a negative feedback loop.
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 10:33 AMbecause gentrification is a form of systematic state sponsored violence when the original occupants are priced out of their dwellings and forced to assimilate into a culture that they are not rooted in
If you separate culture from other things like knowledge, I generally don't think culture has much intrinsic value. Its value mainly comes from the way it affects us so if it adds to our quality of life, it's good. If not, then it's neutral or even bad. Culture changes rapidly, adapting to our modern lives and changing influences and so any expectation that it can remain static is kinda naive, I think. It is fleeting and holding on to it might not always make sense.
It also seems simple to say that if your environment changes, you're forced to also change. You don't really have to change / adapt if you don't want to, do you?
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 10:33 AMself-defense is the most desirable kind of violence- in the case of the hawaiians gentrification has become nearly genocidal so rejecting it violently is completely reasonable
I don't know much about Hawaiian gentrification, but I can't see much point in murder and violence. It just begets more murder, violence and segregation and there's going to be lots of collateral damage. F.ex. someone's parent gets murdered because they moved into a neighborhood dominated by a culture they don't belong to. Did the kid deserve that?
Supporting that sort of thing, you could easily argue that white norwegians in a white neighborhood should be allowed to beat up and kill darker skinned muslims moving in. The mind reels. Obviously, if a nation is going to have more than one culture in it, those cultures will mix. If people interact, it can't be avoided. Hopefully, something lovely can come out of it.
If you have a problem with gentrification changing culture, I just imagine that there's a plan A, B, C and murder and violence should probably be plan Z.
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 10:33 AMthe pricing minorities out of manhattan and sf is the most successful segregation effort in american history since the original genocide
white racists in alabama don't even come close to the complete exclusion rich liberals who likely preach diversity have in place - they have their properties gated walled guarded gated again walled again and layered with an extra set of guards - they exclude the minorities without even having to acknowledge that they're doing it because they have so many barriers between themselves and the ones they're afraid of that it surpasses the physical so completely the other isn't even registered in their thoughts as real
I can't comment too much on the specifics here because it's too USA specific and I don't know much about that. But from a very simple standpoint, this reminds me of a basic problem of capitalism. If you generate a lot of money, that money could be spent improving the education of the children in the area you live, the library, safe drinking water, better health care for the people around you, better roads etc. Or you could do none of that and you could instead spend it on improving your house, your private health care, your kids private tuition. The latter option would serve to create a world in which everything inside your gates is better while the stuff outside is worse.
So this is just an unwarranted aside, but that level of wealth where people put up walls and hire people to guard it from the hungry masses just seems perverse to me. To relate it just a little bit to your comment, this distance between rich and poor will of course also help super charge problems related to gentrification.
Quotemore likely to drive the rent up and leave you poorer than you were
leaves more and more homeless and in america a homeless person has as little hope as jews is auschwitz - people who think that's hyperbolic don't understand the hellish cycle of homelessness and incarceration and the permanent and ultimately deadly impact it has (people don't like to see what's right under their noses)
QuoteI don't know much about Hawaiian gentrification, but I can't see much point in murder and violence.
well if norway suddenly becomes a russian state and you were taught that it's liberation in school and russian billionaires buy up all the pristine real estate and ethnic norwegians were left unable to afford basic necessities you'd probably get that
QuoteIf you have a problem with gentrification, I just imagine that there's a plan A, B, C and murder and violence should probably be plan Z.
the gentrifiers resort to murder and violence from day one but their hands appear clean from the blood from most people because they don't understand how private properties laws are used to oppress people by theft then false imprisonment for trying to take back what's rightfully theirs
Quotethat money could be spent improving the education of the children in the area you live, the library, safe drinking water, better health care for the people around you, better roads
well that's reform minded but imo the wealth gap has to be completely eliminated - but yeah
Quotewealth where people put up walls and hire people to guard it from the hungry masses just seems perverse to me
it's disgusting
QuoteYou don't really have to change / adapt if you don't want to, do you?
No. You can choose to starve instead.
Finally, it's horribly arrogant to think it's ok to push the religion secular humanism on the entire planet.
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 03:46 PMFinally, it's horribly arrogant to think it's ok to push the religion secular humanism on the entire planet.
I don't think you have to. Just promote critical thinking, the value of truth and empirical research. If there is one or more gods, we should be able to discover that. If we can't find any, it's likely because they don't exist or are of no consequence to us.
Quote from: Guybrush on Mar 03, 2023, 07:24 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 03:46 PMFinally, it's horribly arrogant to think it's ok to push the religion secular humanism on the entire planet.
I don't think you have to. Just promote critical thinking, the value of truth and empirical research. If there is one or more gods, we should be able to discover that. If we can't find any, it's likely because they don't exist or are of no consequence to us.
that's fine for you and me but the western idea that we should push secular humanism (atheist or theistic), democracy, and, capitalism or socialism or anything on any other culture is the problem. The idea that no culture on earth should be racist is, ironically, racist af. That's something that became clear to me living in Japan. The ones who hated me and all other foreigners were on solid moral ground. They have their own reasons for their framework. To pronounce their racism as immoral would be to claim I understand their culture and know better than they do. And frankly, being American would make that a laughable position.
So would it not appear to you then that you, as a white person in what you tell us is a predominantly black neighbourhood, and seen as a symbol of the gentrification of the area, would be then fair game to be stabbed to death or shot by the residents?
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 03, 2023, 07:45 PMSo would it not appear to you then that you, as a white person in what you tell us is a predominantly black neighbourhood, and seen as a symbol of the gentrification of the area, would be then fair game to be stabbed to death or shot by the residents?
lol i try to be deferential but i'm no simone weil - would it be fair? sure - would i shoot back or even shoot first - sure
i read books but i'm white trash
i'm not a hillbilly or a redneck i'm pure nasty hypocritical white trash
i'm proud of it
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Mar 03, 2023, 02:18 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 03, 2023, 01:29 PMhttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-bill-require-bloggers-write-governor-legislators-register-stat-rcna73191
Florida bill would require bloggers who write about the governor and legislators to register with the state
Does that include out of state residents? How would they enforce it, by invading Illinois?
it's florida specific fascism
here's a quote from the editorial board of the nytimes
QuoteThe bill's real impact, however, would go well beyond curbing what publishers could print without fear of damages. As the board writes, "The bill represents a dangerous threat to free expression in the United States, not only for the news media, but for all Americans, whatever their political beliefs."
Anyone who posts a critical comment about a public figure on social media, or criticizes an official at a school board meeting, could be subject to an immediate lawsuit and would not have the special protection that the Supreme Court has given to this kind of speech. Any person accused of bigotry based on sexual orientation or gender identity would be able to file a defamation lawsuit and have a virtual guarantee of winning by saying the discrimination was based on personal religious or scientific beliefs.
to those who think the first amendment will make this impossible you might not understand how far right the supreme court is now
it doesn't matter what the first amendment says - it only matters what the supreme court decides it means and they are not accountable to anyone-
don't even try to tell me this couldn't happen
it's real and it's scary af
it's time to wake up this is not a drill
So this, then, is the first step in controlling and muzzling the media. And what comes after that...?
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 04, 2023, 10:10 PMSo this, then, is the first step in controlling and muzzling the media. And what comes after that...?
it's what they do - they weaponize poverty - they want to be able to target individuals, sue them - wreck their lives and trap them in the penal system poverty cycle that i keep posting about
people will ignore crimes against lgbt if speaking up means financial ruin - they sue you then start garnishing your pay - they might as well put a gun to your head - your life is destroyed
and who's going to enforce this oh our sweet lovable police that everyone is so scared to get rid of
i hate to go here because of the pushback i'll probably get but seriously americans leftists it's time to buy guns
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 04, 2023, 10:39 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Mar 04, 2023, 10:10 PMSo this, then, is the first step in controlling and muzzling the media. And what comes after that...?
it's what they do - they weaponize poverty - they want to be able to target individuals, sue them - wreck their lives and trap them in the penal system poverty cycle that i keep posting about
people will ignore crimes against lgbt if speaking up means financial ruin - they sue you then start garnishing your pay - they might as well put a gun to your head - your life is destroyed
and who's going to enforce this oh our sweet lovable police that everyone is so scared to get rid of
i hate to go here because of the pushback i'll probably get but seriously americans leftists it's time to buy guns
The prison industry is big business. And what makes it worse is that because so many modern institutions are ridiculously predatory, it is very difficult to escape the poverty cycle even if you never go to prison. The only people who have a shot at success generally tend to come from two-parents households that are moderately stable to begin with.
You'd be better off arming the people who got here as non-citizens if you wanted to make something happen though - they've got plenty of good reasons to get armed and they're far less complacent than the performative liberals. Government doesn't do anything for them and they are exploited as labor, and best of all they aren't indoctrinated by 'Murica.
Thar she blows! Canadian woman wins Key West conch blowing contest (https://apnews.com/article/florida-tourism-key-west-conch-contest-2185842df9020dce1e2c8dc9b69bf653)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64848106
A shocking read.
Main points:
- Matt Hancock, former UK Health Secretary in the government, had 100,000 WhatsApp messages leaked
- In them, he suggests the public are frightened in to falling into line with their behaviour during the pandemic
- Asks "when do we deploy the new variant?"
what's shocking is that people kept spreading the virus when all they had to do was stay home
was it really that hard to chill in your crib?
unless he was deploying biological agents i'm pretty sure he was talking about parsing information
but dishonesty starting with fauci's asinine "stop buying masks" instead of honestly saying that the medical community needed first dibs he told the ridiculous lie that a physical barrier isn't a physical barrier basically- in full contradiction to the efficacy of universal precautions
people hate the truth
there was backlash against saying gay men were getting monkeypox by some gays themselves
35 people detained after "coordinated attack" at Atlanta's "Cop City" police training site (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/atlanta-cop-city-police-training-site-protest-arrests/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 06, 2023, 05:58 PM35 people detained after "coordinated attack" at Atlanta's "Cop City" police training site (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/atlanta-cop-city-police-training-site-protest-arrests/)
nice to see the pigs taking some hits
Any thoughts on the new Jan. 6th footage that came out?
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:10 AMAny thoughts on the new Jan. 6th footage that came out?
i thought i answered this question...
https://www.advocate.com/media/cpac-transgenderism-eradicated
CPAC Speaker Michael Knowles: 'Transgenderism Must Be Eradicated'
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/us/transgender-people-bills-oklahoma-tennessee-reaj
More states are proposing bills targeting LGBT rights. 'It's only getting worse,' advocate says
one thing i was wrong about earlier is that florida is uniquely aggressive with lgbtq targeting
unfortunately it's prevalent in multiple states
28 girls hospitalized with 'anxiety' after playing with Ouija board (https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/28-girls-hospitalized-for-anxiety-after-ouija-board-game/)From the comments section...
QuoteR Mazzella
1 day ago
I remember my late mother saying once that she didn't want a Ouija board in the house--I guess this is why.
Captain Kidd
16 hours ago
Ask her if she still feels that way.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 09, 2023, 02:35 PM28 girls hospitalized with 'anxiety' after playing with Ouija board (https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/28-girls-hospitalized-for-anxiety-after-ouija-board-game/)
From the comments section...
QuoteR Mazzella
1 day ago
I remember my late mother saying once that she didn't want a Ouija board in the house--I guess this is why.
Captain Kidd
16 hours ago
Ask her if she still feels that way.
:laughing:
haha
Thoughts and prayers for John Fetterman and Mitch McConnell who are both in the hospital. <3
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 10, 2023, 05:03 AMThoughts and prayers for John Fetterman and Mitch McConnell who are both in the hospital. <3
i'm real shook up about it
https://apnews.com/article/1c47b13f7ec803a218d02780934978fe
A shooting at a Jehovah's Witnesses hall in the German city of Hamburg left eight people dead, including apparently the perpetrator, police said Friday. An unspecified number of other people were wounded, some of them seriously.
The head of Germany's GdP police union in Hamburg, Horst Niens, said he was convinced that the swift arrival of a special operations unit "distracted the perpetrator and may have prevented further victims."
-- congratulations to the german police for "preventing further victims"
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/investigators/2023/03/09/desantis-seeks-98-million-to-fund-floridas-own-military/
DeSantis seeks $98 million to fund Florida's own militarybefore this gets twisted i'm AGAINST this
k?
Quote"The Florida State Guard will be comprised of Floridians, and it will be assigned to assist and help only Floridians," DeSantis said in a news conference last June. "It will not be subject to be mobilized by the federal government, and the federal government cannot impose policies or penalties on the Florida State Guard."
this is separate from the florida national guard that answers to the federal government
The first step towards secession? Civil war on the horizon?
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 10, 2023, 04:39 PMThe first step towards secession? Civil war on the horizon?
i'm more worried about it being mobilized against minorities in florida
if the feds intervened i don't know what
maybe he wants an organized force if the feds got involved like during school desegregation
all i know for sure is it's not good and it's not hurricane relief like he's saying
if it was that it would be like florida red cross or something- people with tools and medicine and food and water - not rifles
this stuff is like a nightmare
wake me up if it is
and that $98 M
it'll be in the billions in no time i bet
maybe he doesn't want to be president just king of florida
I have to admit that I like their flag...
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5XdvdDK/FSG.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 10, 2023, 04:56 PMI have to admit that I like their flag...
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5XdvdDK/FSG.png) (https://postimages.org/)
it's shocking
that it's real is shocking
the message is unbelievable
it is successionist
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 10, 2023, 04:56 PMI have to admit that I like their flag...
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5XdvdDK/FSG.png) (https://postimages.org/)
That's a pretty ironic flag for a state that's so dependent on tourism.
According to the article in that Orlando news site, 22 other states already have active state defense forces in addition to their state national guard, and Wikipedia confirms that...
State defense force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force)
I don't give a toss about DeSantis one way or another but it doesn't look like he's doing anything particularly nefarious there.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 10, 2023, 05:35 PMAccording to the article in that Orlando news site, 22 other states already have active state defense forces in addition to their state national guard, and Wikipedia confirms that...
State defense force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force)
I don't give a toss about DeSantis one way or another but it doesn't look like he's doing anything particularly nefarious there.
i didn't know that
🤔
i feel 2% better about it
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 10, 2023, 05:06 PMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 10, 2023, 04:56 PMI have to admit that I like their flag...
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5XdvdDK/FSG.png) (https://postimages.org/)
That's a pretty ironic flag for a state that's so dependent on tourism.
got 'em lol
They should have Mickey Mouse with an AK-47 on their flag.
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 10, 2023, 08:15 PMThey should have Mickey Mouse with an AK-47 on their flag.
i'd enlist
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 10, 2023, 08:15 PMThey should have Mickey Mouse with an AK-47 on their flag.
Impossible. DeSantis is at war with Mickey Mouse.
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Mar 10, 2023, 08:59 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Mar 10, 2023, 08:15 PMThey should have Mickey Mouse with an AK-47 on their flag.
Impossible. DeSantis is at war with Mickey Mouse.
that's why he's got an ak and not an ar
Donald's the real rebel anyway.
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 10, 2023, 10:25 PMDonald's the real rebel anyway.
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Just as I decide to become some kind of tech bro, the bottom falls out on the whole thing (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/10/european-markets-spooked-by-us-bank-shares-sell-off)
(https://media.tenor.com/0NvxN_S9IpQAAAAC/donald-duck-what-do-you-want.gif)
Could be a slogan for the state of Florida!
While few of you are from this side of the pond, I'd still be interested in your views on this.
Fallout from Gary Lineker incident continues (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0311/1361613-lineker-fallout-continues-with-further-bbc-boycotts/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20230311)
FYI, what he said was basically the new policy of the Tory government to refuse entry to immigrants and looking for asylum (no exceptions, that I can see after a quick read-through) instead sending them to countries like Rwanda is like "1930s Germany". Tories didn't like that. BBC, which is basically run by Tory money (tell me it isn't) came down hard on Lineker and so we are where we are.
So is this a case of a TV presenter getting involved in something he should have stayed out of, a man standing up for what he believes in and using his - until recently - public platform to do this, an uncaring Tory government who are racist despite having their first ever Asian leader/Prime Minister, and who don't appreciate public figures coming out against them, a case of the muzzling of free speech, or fuck off Trollheart we're American we don't care?
I personally have to say, no matter how stupid and pointless this will seem, that I won't be watching Match of the Day tonight, in a kind of solidarity with Lineker, the only one I can practice. Will mean nothing, but it will make me feel better. If everyone boycotted the BBC they'd be fucked. Maybe it would show them something. Or not.
He never said the policy was similar he said the language used was, I think.
Tbh I don't like Lineker. I remember him making borderline xenophobic jokes about Unai Emery and implying non whites can't be English. I can't stand him but it is funny to see the BBC getting this so wrong and everyone turning on them.
QuoteTrollheart we're American we don't care
the situation is so different than american politics it's hard to say
immigration into britain isn't the same as america so i don't think it's our place to judge the tory position there
the nazi reference is different because our grandparents weren't hiding in bomb shelters
i don't think he should be banned from announcing games for ANY opinion unless he carries on about it during the games and i doubt he does
howard cosell did monday night football in america even after he publicly supported ali for refusing the draft which was really divisive back then
they still snub him for broadcast awards even though he's probably the greatest ever american sportscaster of all time
but they never silenced him - that's ridiculous
Yeah as JJ says it was "the language of the 1930s in Germany" but the meaning was clear. He did it on Twitter I believe so no, not on air; I don't think he has that lack of professionalism, and anyway his programme is not live, so the BBC would just refuse to air those comments.
JJ, why do you think he's racist if he's making these comments? Would he not be more on the side of the Torys rather than berate them if that were the case? Either way, as you say, the gobshite BBC have handled it all wrong, stifling free speech and now so many presenters have come out in support of him, basically on strike, that they are royally fucked. And no doubt others in the world of sport and news and further will come into it soon if they don't back down. They are such hypocrites.
I don't think he's racist, I think he's a hypocrite. Thinks he's holier than thou and is very quick to have a go at others for perceived racism but fails to meet his own standards.
The joke about Emery was the exact sort of thing he'd shame someone else for.
https://fortune.com/2023/03/10/silicon-valley-bank-ceo-greg-becker-3-6-million-stock-sale/
Silicon Valley Bank's CEO sold $3.6 million of stock in potentially 'problematic' transaction days before historic bank failurehttps://www.benzinga.com/sec/insider-trades/sivb/gregory-becker
QuoteThe current estimated net worth of Svb Financial Group's President and CEO, Gregory Becker, is estimated to be about $91.18M
lol
guarantee you he gets away with it
Kenzaburo Oe died.
I've only read A Personal Matter and a collection of nonfiction - letter exchanges better him and Edward Said
I've only read A Personal Matter. It's sad that he's gone, but it seems like he got to live a nice long life at least.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 13, 2023, 01:58 PMI've only read A Personal Matter. It's sad that he's gone, but it seems like he got to live a nice long life at least.
reading through his obituaries makes me want to read more of him
A zebra attacked a man in Ohio before it was killed by a deputy (https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/14/us/ohio-zebra-attack-circleville/index.html)QuoteDeputies were dispatched to a home in Circleville, Ohio, after getting a call from a man who said "his arm had been bitten off by a Zebra," according to a Pickaway County Sheriff's Office report obtained by CNN.
Thought zebras were only in Africa?
Weird how it was "another man on the scene" who gave the kill order. Maybe he just didn't like zebras?
I wonder if the cop aimed specifically for the black stripes.
Better than targeting Jack White and his wife I guess. Sorry: just horsin' around; I'm sure the cop was EQUInanimous at all times.
Not all issues are black and white. For all we know that zebra was Mexican.
Or of mixed race. But was it a white horse with black stripes or a black horse with white stripes, is the question?
or was he a brown horse covered in black and white stripes 🤔
meanwhile chatgpt is very diplomatic on which animal is smarter
QuoteHorses and zebras are both members of the equid family and share many similarities in terms of their behavior and cognitive abilities. However, there are some differences between them that may affect their relative intelligence.
One major difference is that horses have been domesticated and bred selectively by humans for thousands of years, whereas zebras are wild animals that have not undergone the same process of domestication. As a result, horses may have a greater capacity for learning and adapting to human environments, while zebras may be more independent and less responsive to human cues.
That being said, zebras have also been shown to be highly intelligent and adaptable animals in their natural habitat. They are known for their social intelligence and complex communication skills, which are essential for their survival in the wild. Overall, it is difficult to say whether horses are smarter than zebras, as both animals are highly intelligent in their own ways and have evolved unique cognitive abilities to meet the challenges of their respective environments
actually this guy would probably still have two arms if he had checked with chatgpt first
QuoteZebras are wild animals and are not suitable to be kept as pets. While zebras may appear similar to horses, they are still wild animals with their own natural instincts and behaviors that are not compatible with domestication.
Zebras are not fully domesticated like horses, and their unpredictable behavior can make them dangerous and difficult to handle. They are strong and can kick, bite, and injure humans or other animals. Additionally, zebras require a lot of space and specialized care that most people are not equipped to provide.
In some places, it may also be illegal to keep a zebra as a pet without the proper permits or licenses. It is important to remember that wild animals should be respected and admired from a distance and allowed to live in their natural habitats, where they can thrive and maintain their unique roles in the ecosystem
smart
Got to wonder what would happen if one was hit on a zebra crossing? Well, the driver could just say he wasn't able to see it, couldn't he?
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 14, 2023, 07:40 PM
Not all issues are black and white. For all we know that zebra was Mexican.
https://apnews.com/article/36899f7974c751950a8ce0e444f86189
QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Payments of $5 million to every eligible Black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years and homes in San Francisco for just $1 a family.
that's a pretty good payout for work your great great great grandpappy did
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 16, 2023, 01:51 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/36899f7974c751950a8ce0e444f86189
QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Payments of $5 million to every eligible Black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years and homes in San Francisco for just $1 a family.
that's a pretty good payout for work your great great great grandpappy did
That sounds far too ridiculous to ever happen. Even in a place like San Francisco. Not even counting the legal aspect of it.
Would cost each non white family $600,000? Glad I'm not paying it.
I'm on board for reparations as long as I get paid for the slavery my own Slavic ancestors were subjected to. C'mon Sleepy Joe, help a guy out.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 16, 2023, 02:08 PMQuote from: Dreams on Mar 16, 2023, 01:51 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/36899f7974c751950a8ce0e444f86189
QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Payments of $5 million to every eligible Black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years and homes in San Francisco for just $1 a family.
that's a pretty good payout for work your great great great grandpappy did
That sounds far too ridiculous to ever happen. Even in a place like San Francisco. Not even counting the legal aspect of it.
yeah
Quotecritics have slammed the plan as financially and politically impossible. An estimate from Stanford University's Hoover Institution, which leans conservative, has said it would cost each non-Black family in the city at least $600,000...
Critics say the payouts make no sense in a state and city that never enslaved Black people. Opponents generally say taxpayers who were never slave owners should not have to pay money to people who were not enslaved.
then again, after trump, i never rule any absurdity completely out - we've been living in a cartoon for some while
the great TV show Atlanta has an episode where blacks can sue based on genetic tracing of genealogical histories
i don't think my ancestors owned slaves but i also don't think i'd own a house if i wasn't white
the problem with reparations is that it's not about wealth redistribution- it really doesn't matter why you're poor the indignities are the same - liberals sometimes say only whites say that but there are increasing minority voices speaking on behalf of poor disenfranchised rural whites especially those in appalachia - i know personally so obviously anecdotally from my hardest days the greatest compassion and professional assistance i received was from middle class blacks - just we need to acknowledge that we might be able to white our way out of difficult police interactions most wealthier blacks know they got it better than dirt poor white trash in general
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 16, 2023, 02:56 PMI'm on board for reparations as long as I get paid for the slavery my own Slavic ancestors were subjected to. C'mon Sleepy Joe, help a guy out.
that's what the white guy on Atlanta says lol
he ends up having his paychecks garnished as he waits tables for newly wealthy blacks
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 16, 2023, 02:54 PMWould cost each non white family $600,000? Glad I'm not paying it.
honestly they'd have to kill me first but that wouldn't bother them
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/03/15/florida-seaweed-bloom-threat-climate-brian-lapointe-bts-intl-vpx.cnn
A blob twice the width of the US is heading towards Florida's coast
Didn't know Trump could swim! :laughing:
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 17, 2023, 10:03 PMDidn't know Trump could swim! :laughing:
good one
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 17, 2023, 10:02 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/03/15/florida-seaweed-bloom-threat-climate-brian-lapointe-bts-intl-vpx.cnn
A blob twice the width of the US is heading towards Florida's coast
That sounds like a great sci-fi/horror b-movie script waiting to be written.
https://apnews.com/article/61ee43f99623f98bb0b4ec4570c4c603
Pence cracks jokes at Buttigieg and now his husband is having a childish tantrum demanding "accountability"
QuotePence defended his comments Thursday night after speaking at a Republican Party dinner in New Hampshire.
"The Gridiron Dinner is a roast. I had a lot of jokes directed to me, and I directed a lot of jokes to Republicans and Democrats," he told reporters. "The only thing I can figure is Pete Buttigieg not only can't do his job, but he can't take a joke."
That's actually a great comeback because it amplifies the worthless response Buttigieg has had concerning that train derailment and subsequent chemical spill. Buttigieg is Sec of Transportation and the entire Biden administration has handled the entire thing a lot like Bush handled Katrina.
But let's be honest: someone whose name is Buttgieg is asking for it from the start, aren't they? :laughing:
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 18, 2023, 01:15 PMBut let's be honest: someone whose name is Buttgieg is asking for it from the start, aren't they? :laughing:
it is pretty funny tbh
QuoteDonald Trump claimed on Saturday that his arrest is imminent and issued an extraordinary call for his supporters to protest as a New York grand jury investigates hush money payments to women who alleged sexual encounters with the former president.
Even as Trump's lawyer and spokesperson said there had been no communication from prosecutors, Trump declared in a post on his social media platform that he expects to be taken into custody on Tuesday.
https://apnews.com/article/a48428984cf99d23f46b4157b34160ae
i know it's hard for people (sometimes even myself) to understand why i think the way i do but i hope this sets off complete pandemonium - LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE -
and of all the things trump did... this? lol come on - did he take sloppy seconds on monica lewinsky too?
It is pretty funny that the one thing that might possibly stick and put him into a jail cell in 2023 is overpaying a porn star from eight years ago. Now if only we could get Jimmy Kimmel for his role in Epstein's mysterious demise. :laughing:
Elon Musk has announced that Twitter, which he purchased last year, will respond to inquiries from journalists with the poop emoji. (https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/03/19/elon-musk-announces-change-twitter-policy-press-poop-emoji/8461679235076/) :poop:
Says it all really.
Yeah, it says that Muskrat is a man in his 50s behaving like a spoiled 10 year old child.
Muskrat! Love it! :laughing:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 19, 2023, 03:32 PMElon Musk has announced that Twitter, which he purchased last year, will respond to inquiries from journalists with the poop emoji. (https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/03/19/elon-musk-announces-change-twitter-policy-press-poop-emoji/8461679235076/) :poop:
He's basically a human poop emoji, so I guess that makes sense.
Don't you think that's being a little unfair?
What did poop ever do to you?
Inside the 'cult' that fooled Newark into being sister cities with a fake nation (https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/inside-cult-that-fooled-newark-nj-with-fake-sister-city/)QuoteWhen officials in Newark recently got tricked into establishing a sister-city relationship with the United States of Kailasa — a country that does not actually exist — the largest metropolis in New Jersey became a global laughingstock.
But those in the know find nothing funny about Newark aligning itself with a nation created to honor the so-called Supreme Pontiff of Hinduisim (SPH), Paramahamsa Nithyananda.
The swami is allegedly a fugitive from justice who's been, according to the BBC, charged with rape and child abduction in India.
He is said to have fled that country in 2019 and his whereabouts are unknown.
Only in Jersey, huh? :laughing: :laughing:
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 21, 2023, 01:12 PMOnly in Jersey, huh? :laughing: :laughing:
Also in Kailasa.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec
What's 'digital blackface?' And why is it wrong when White people use it?
i actually agree with this article that using black people to express exaggerated emotions is akin to minstrel show type racism but i also think it's too much of an uptight white liberal (or black white liberal) virtue signaling to worry about it - blacks are funny especially when they're extra black
it's technically wrong and exploitative but it's wrong to try to take all the fun out of online communication as well
oh also lol @ the editors choosing to capitalize the word white -
People use all sorts of gifs. White, black and everything else.
More whingeing about whites and how everything we do is racist. Really couldn't give a fuck tbh.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/everything-we-know-about-the-nashville-school-shooter/
https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-identified-as-transgender-and-had-detailed-manifesto-to-attack-christian-academy/
QuoteNashville school shooter Audrey Hale identified as transgender and had detailed manifesto to attack Christian academy
QuoteNashville police revealed that the 28-year-old who shot and killed six people at the Covenant School, including three children, identified as transgender and had a detailed manifesto to attack the Christian academy.
Officials said Audrey Hale, a former student, entered the school Monday morning by shooting through a door on the side of the building.
While inside, Hale killed Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs, and William Kinney, all age 9, as well as custodian Mike Hill and substitute teacher Cynthia Peak, both 61, and school head Katherine Koonce, 60.
Following the shootings, Hale was killed when they encountered officers on the second floor by 10:27 a.m., four minutes into the shooting.
I just felt the biggest pit in my stomach. This shit just isn't fair.
This person has just thrown a match onto the gasoline swamp that is the right wing hate party. We're all doomed.
In a way that's not surprising given the nature of the rhetoric coming from both camps at this point. Not just on this issue but on every single issue. I feel like a civil war feels more likely than it ever has in my lifetime.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Mar 28, 2023, 03:39 AMI just felt the biggest pit in my stomach. This shit just isn't fair.
This person has just thrown a match onto the gasoline swamp that is the right wing hate party. We're all doomed.
haters are gonna hate
the people who will hate an entire group based on the actions of one already hate you
people who understand that problematic outliers don't represent the entire group still understand that
at least for the most part - nothing is 100% when you're talking about many millions of people- it might shift the needle a little but not a lot
people hate you because you threaten their vision of how society is supposed to be structured and unfortunately that's baked into your struggle
gender fluidity and non-binaryism is probably the most radical paradigm shift of my lifetime- when i was in college these concepts were so fringe i never would've thought they would be embraced to the degree that they have - it's a burden to pioneer a new path to freedom for the future and it's not a burden you asked for but you can take pride in the truth that you're a part of the vanguard of a new kind of freedom that will be enjoyed indefinitely by our posterity
so keep your chin up - you're a freedom fighter and a hero even if you never wanted to be and believe it or not you're winning - the fact that it's even a conversation now is proof
I agree with you to an extent that really the trans stuff gets way more support now than it did when i was growing up.
But at the same time people weren't shooting eachother over it on a regular basis back then.
Like back then the comparable issue was gay rights. While you had some high profile hate crimes, you didn't have the constant drip of yet another mass shooting or terror attack every month or so. When shocking shit did happen it wasn't nearly as political either.
Now it's like for every shooting there is necessarily going to be 2 competing political narratives.
Quote from: Jwb on Mar 28, 2023, 04:49 AMI agree with you to an extent that really the trans stuff gets way more support now than it did when i was growing up.
But at the same time people weren't shooting eachother over it on a regular basis back then.
Like back then the comparable issue was gay rights. While you had some high profile hate crimes, you didn't have the constant drip of yet another mass shooting or terror attack every month or so. When shocking shit did happen it wasn't nearly as political either.
Now it's like for every shooting there is necessarily going to be 2 competing political narratives.
i remember gay bashing being so common that members of queer nation guarded places where gays congregated with weapons
and there were many deaths that were never identified as hate crimes
gangs of people used to roam the streets hunting homosexuals
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 28, 2023, 05:09 AMQuote from: Jwb on Mar 28, 2023, 04:49 AMI agree with you to an extent that really the trans stuff gets way more support now than it did when i was growing up.
But at the same time people weren't shooting eachother over it on a regular basis back then.
Like back then the comparable issue was gay rights. While you had some high profile hate crimes, you didn't have the constant drip of yet another mass shooting or terror attack every month or so. When shocking shit did happen it wasn't nearly as political either.
Now it's like for every shooting there is necessarily going to be 2 competing political narratives.
i remember gay bashing being so common that members of queer nation guarded places where gays congregated with weapons
and there were many deaths that were never identified as hate crimes
gangs of people used to roam the streets hunting homosexuals
i mean you're older than me lol. You might still remember when they burned them with a bundle of sticks.
But yeah shit was not nearly as unstable even going back 10 years.
Like i said we can talk about hate crimes but there was not constant high profile politically motivated shootings and terror attacks, with pundits arguing with each other bitterly to try to control the narrative in the wake of every single one.
As someone who came out as trans in 2004, my experience was mostly just being ignored or thought of as an ultimately harmless weirdo. It was a lot less known about back then.
I was lucky to live in a pretty liberal city, but even so, nowadays my livelihood and health and rights are seen as a "hot button issue" that is constantly teetering on the edge of being taken away, rather than me just being ostracized on a local level like I was prior to the current hate campaign.
Things weren't perfect back then, but in a lot of ways I can't help but miss those days.
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Joe Biden talking about how much he likes chocolate chip ice cream or w/e then immediately segueing to talking about the Nashville shooting was very surreal. I thought it was some AI generated thing at first.
Sniffing other people's sweat can help treat social anxiety, study suggests (https://news.sky.com/story/sniffing-other-peoples-sweat-can-help-treat-social-anxiety-study-suggests-12842747)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 28, 2023, 04:30 PMJoe Biden talking about how much he likes chocolate chip ice cream or w/e then immediately segueing to talking about the Nashville shooting was very surreal. I thought it was some AI generated thing at first.
For those that didn't see:
https://rumble.com/v2f1zdg-biden-after-6-dead-in-school-shooting-came-down-because-i-heard-there-was-c.html
I imagine he was trying to add some levity to the event, it just came off as pretty ill-fitting for the nature of the event. Big surprise, Biden isn't exactly the best at reading the room anymore. But then again, there was plenty of laughter, so maybe I'm the crazy one.
Showed it to my friend and she thought it was AI as well. She's American BTW.
Biden can't even ride a pedal bike the fucking idiot. Is he still sniffing kids?
talk about desensitization
starts off doing a comedy skit and the entire place is with him laughing
i can't imagine how horrible seeing that will be to the parents and other loved ones who were murdered
"my child is dead and he's got a round of jokes to run through first"
it's obvious trump set the wrong tone but what is this
we can pass it off to odd senility but this is symptomatic of a deranged disconnect- not even just that freak loser president but everyone in that room
i know some people might see this post as virtue signaling or not understanding that there were multiple reasons for the address and other things but just no on all that - the families of the dead are definitely going to see that - it's unforgivable
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Investigators examine pipeline in chocolate factory blast (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/investigators-examine-pipeline-chocolate-factory-blast-98214147)
For those who don't follow British politics, this is the new First Minister of Scotland:
Absolutely snarling every time he says 'white'.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 30, 2023, 05:45 PMFor those who don't follow British politics, this is the new First Minister of Scotland:
Absolutely snarling every time he says 'white'.
lol @ complaining that scotland is white
it's not america and it's not my business but could you imagine if when i lived in japan and taught in the school if i complained that the entire school board was japanese
i know that's a false equivalency but it's scotland- they're white - i get it in america because this land isn't rightfully white but scotland - i understand that other races of people are born in scotland and are scottish but gtfo with complaining that scotland is too white - is pakistan too brown is ethiopia too black is india too indian - the scottish can take that however they want but non-white countries definitely don't play that nonsense
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 30, 2023, 05:45 PMFor those who don't follow British politics, this is the new First Minister of Scotland:
Absolutely snarling every time he says 'white'.
I didn't hear any snarling.
Scotland is about 96% white.
I can't believe people tolerate this sort of thing.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 30, 2023, 10:34 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 30, 2023, 05:45 PMFor those who don't follow British politics, this is the new First Minister of Scotland:
Absolutely snarling every time he says 'white'.
I didn't hear any snarling.
He is absolutely raging mate, you can hear the hate in his voice.
What do you think of his point?
I'm not sure what his point even is. In a largely majority white country, there's lots of white people in different professions and positions of power? Sooooo what? Need more diversity? Is the plan to try and boost immigration? I have no clue what Scotland's immigration policies are like, but are they restrictive (like Japan's)? Japan is one country that probably really could use more immigration from different countries given their population/age issue, but it's their country and they can run it how they'd like.
There are definite economic benefits to immigration, but if immigration from different countries to bolster the economy is the goal, to frame that around reducing the amount of white skinned people (or to be more charitable, to get more people from different ethnicities/backgrounds) in various professions in Scotland seems a bit counterproductive to me. I don't know if I'm missing context here, but the last thing he says after listing off all the white people is - "that is not good enough". That seems racist to me. White people in a largely white country holding the majority of positions/professions is "not good enough"? It's a bad thing?
I'd agree with Jansz, I didn't get the 'snarling' - but it doesn't seem like a good look, based only on that short clip alone (again, I don't know if we're missing context here). Still, I've never heard 'diversity' in a context which means more white people in a non-white country.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 30, 2023, 11:11 PMHe is absolutely raging mate, you can hear the hate in his voice.
What do you think of his point?
He didn't sound like he was raging to me, I don't know what to tell you. I also don't really know what his point was because I have zero context for this video.
It doesn't sound like that to me either. It's impossible to understand his point in such a short video, but if it is that it's a problem that positions of power are predominantly filled by white people in a country with predominantly white people then I don't agree with him. If he's saying that the number of white people in power is disproportionate compared to the white population of Scotland, then he makes a good point. What matters is accurate representation in positions of power, not that the leaders match the 'racial identity' of the country. There is none: people migrate, countries evolve, and assigning that much identity to a country leads to nationalism. In any case, even if he means the former it would be just sloppy thinking. I don't see any hate, just frustration.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 31, 2023, 12:49 AMIf he's saying that the number of white people in power is disproportionate compared to the white population of Scotland, then he makes a good point.
Scotland is 96% white.
129 seats in the Scottish Government and 6 of them are occupied by non whites which is pretty much bang on proportionate representation.
So I'm not sure what the good point is?
There are other positions of power though. Like I said, the video doesn't explain what his point is so I can't judge. I just listed two possible points he might be making, and what I would think of those, because that's the best I can do
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 31, 2023, 10:34 AMThere are other positions of power though. Like I said, the video doesn't explain what his point is so I can't judge. I just listed two possible points he might be making, and what I would think of those, because that's the best I can do
Is this one long enough?
He was talking about structural racism, and this was his argument that Scotland was structurally racist.
Watching the longer cut, what he's saying is basically "let's all try to be better about making sure everyone has a voice" and he's including himself in that. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
If he said let's make sure everyone has a voice then that would be reasonable I agree, but that is clearly not what he said.
He claimed Scotland has a problem with structural racism and his evidence for that was that there are too many white people in positions of power (in a 96% white country). That is literally what he said. It is bonkers.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 06:12 PMIf he said let's make sure everyone has a voice then that would be reasonable I agree, but that is clearly not what he said.
He claimed Scotland has a problem with structural racism and his evidence for that was that there are too many white people in positions of power (in a 96% white country). That is literally what he said. It is bonkers.
It didn't seem bonkers to me. He pointed that there have been, I think, zero black people in any role whatsoever in the past 20 years or something. I understand that the black population in Scotland is probably quite small, but based on what he's saying, it sounds like they don't have much of a voice. Seems like a fair thing for him to mention.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 31, 2023, 06:30 PMIt didn't seem bonkers to me. He pointed that there have been, I think, zero black people in any role whatsoever in the past 20 years or something. I understand that the black population in Scotland is probably quite small, but based on what he's saying, it sounds like they don't have much of a voice. Seems like a fair thing for him to mention.
Well quite small is a bit of an understatement, it's not even 1% (and about half of them are school aged so not relevant anyway).
He did say that, as well as the other things I mentioned, and he claimed it was evidence that Scotland has a problem with structural racism. This is the bit that is bonkers.
I am not being a dick, I see the bit you are saying, but he could have made his point, without claiming structural racism is to blame simply because the majority of positions of power are held by white people (in a majority white country).
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 06:12 PMIf he said let's make sure everyone has a voice then that would be reasonable I agree, but that is clearly not what he said.
He claimed Scotland has a problem with structural racism and his evidence for that was that there are too many white people in positions of power (in a 96% white country). That is literally what he said. It is bonkers.
i agree with you
if he simply said even though people of color are a minority we should still have voices in government that would be fine but to repeatedly point every position held by a white person and use the word white multiple times like that is obviously hostile
maybe it was an exaggeration when you said "snarled" but there is ugly invective in his voice and i think he's using the term "white" as a pejorative
that's how it seems to me and if i was scottish i would not be ok with it
If you check the comments on the video plenty of others noticed his tone of voice so it's not just me.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 06:46 PMWell quite small is a bit of an understatement, it's not even 1% (and about half of them are school aged so not relevant anyway).
He did say that, as well as the other things I mentioned, and he claimed it was evidence that Scotland has a problem with structural racism. This is the bit that is bonkers.
I am not being a dick, I see the bit you are saying, but he could have made his point, without claiming structural racism is to blame simply because the majority of positions of power are held by white people (in a majority white country).
There probably is structural racism though. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a government anywhere in the world that doesn't have structural racism and/or other kinds of structural inequality.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 06:53 PMIf you check the comments on the video plenty of others noticed his tone of voice so it's not just me.
i think to ignore such a thing (if you're scottish) is racist against non-whites because the implication is that the white power shield is invulnerable and non-whites will never have the strength to inflict injury
Quotehe claimed it was evidence that Scotland has a problem with structural racism
it probably does at least as he defines it
going by what i think his definition of racism is a certain amount of racism is healthy for most countries- in this case, the way i see it, scotland is well within reason to want to carry on being scottish
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 07:25 PMit probably does at least as he defines it
going by what i think his definition of racism is a certain amount of racism is healthy for most countries- in this case, the way i see it, scotland is well within reason to want to carry on being scottish
That's not the reason there are 0 black MSPs or whatever though. That's because you're only slightly less likely to find Nessie than a black person in Scotland. But I know you agree with me anyway so who cares.
The Pistorius case (not the US general having sex or whatever that thing was but the other one) being back in the news reminded me of this fine piece about how every crime in South Africa is a race crime even when it takes place between two whites in the privacy of their apartment
https://hazlitt.net/blog/pistorius-defence-black-men-made-me-do-it
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/politics/medicaid-termination-states/index.html
QuoteMillions of Americans are at risk of losing their Medicaid coverage in coming months, but residents in Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire and South Dakota will be the first to bear the brunt of the terminations.
one thing almost all american politicians seem to agree on is that sick people should lose everything they have
i'm not going to blame biden directly but his fecklessness definitely doesn't help
we are also a feckless people- someone who votes for your death should be scared for his own life
Canadian Super Pig sounds like a comic book hero...
(https://i.postimg.cc/52SkP9Xh/SP.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I thought it was going to be a story about Steven Crowder.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 02, 2023, 03:47 PM
But enough about the women in my life...
Btw there've been some great Canadian stories in the news lately
Peado hunters up to their usual tricks (distribution of child pornography) (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/31/canada-arrest-pedophile-hunting-group-explicit-images)
Lebanese-Canadian professor tried for 1980 Paris synagogue attack (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/03/lebanese-canadian-professor-tried-for-1980-paris-synagogue-attack)
Which reminds me of an even more astonishing story from 1982 (https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2020/0325/1126344-1982-irish-republicans-france-mitterrand-vincennes/), where the French authorities entrapped three Irish radicals to show that they're being proactive against terrorism and to avoid prosecuting the real culprits
https://apnews.com/article/af8acdcb330cff39d689efc187cd17b7
America Leads the World in Waether Catastrophes
i'm not sure i believe that
Japan and Bangladesh both come to mind
idk 🤷�♂️
https://apnews.com/article/174fe75cd86d83aad7c54483a57ef4e0
Quotethere's now widespread concern that many of Hawaii's children won't be able to afford to live there as adults. Many residents are fearful their entire state — a diverse and culturally vibrant society with unique values and a complex identity — is being gentrified before their eyes as home prices soar
https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/smart-cities/587600-mark-zuckerbergs-controversial-hawaii-estate-adds/
QuoteMark Zuckerberg spent $17 million to purchase an additional 110 acres to add to his now 1,500-acre estate in Kauai, Hawaii.
wtf would anyone need 1,500 acres - he is such a nasty musk level scumbag - i hope he gets testicular cancer
somehow putting limits on property hoarding isn't even on the table
this isn't any different than taking their land with warfare
https://apnews.com/article/ac7adbc200cc4c1bb429ea84357f73be
QuoteThe new law will allow anyone who can legally own a gun in Florida to carry one without a permit. It means training and a background check will not be required to carry concealed guns in public. It takes effect July 1.
nice 👍
note to florida thugs and cops: you might want to start minding your manners 💥
QuoteRussia's war in Ukraine, Finland's official accession to NATO
probably nothing comes of this but it could end up big news
i'm flooding the news thread today
Happy for Finland. A wonderful country saddled with the worst neighbor ever.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 04, 2023, 02:10 PMwtf would anyone need 1,500 acres - he is such a nasty musk level scumbag - i hope he gets testicular cancer
somehow putting limits on property hoarding isn't even on the table
this isn't any different than taking their land with warfare
top quality post
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 04, 2023, 03:24 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 04, 2023, 02:10 PMwtf would anyone need 1,500 acres - he is such a nasty musk level scumbag - i hope he gets testicular cancer
somehow putting limits on property hoarding isn't even on the table
this isn't any different than taking their land with warfare
top quality post
:checkmark:
Made me smile.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 04, 2023, 02:23 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/ac7adbc200cc4c1bb429ea84357f73be
QuoteThe new law will allow anyone who can legally own a gun in Florida to carry one without a permit. It means training and a background check will not be required to carry concealed guns in public. It takes effect July 1.
nice 👍
note to florida thugs and cops: you might want to start minding your manners 💥
Just in time for the upcoming 4th of July weekend.
Why does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.
About Finland, I'm glad that Putin's plans seem to backfire so hard. That's what you get when you create a world of lies, I guess.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 04, 2023, 05:59 PMWhy does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.
It's not all of us, I don't even think it's most of us, but the people who support this stuff have a disproportionately loud voice in our government.
It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?
Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 04, 2023, 05:59 PMWhy does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.
About Finland, I'm glad that Putin's plans seem to backfire so hard. That's what you get when you create a world of lies, I guess.
i'm not against gun violence- i'm against the wrong people falling victim to it - right to carry is the right to equalize
this is especially liberating for black women in poor neighborhoods
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2023, 06:36 PMIt would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?
Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.
just want to say anyone who supports continuing arming the police and military are pro gun
i'm the only one i know who supports completely disarming the government which makes me the only gun control advocate as well
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2023, 06:36 PMIt would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?
Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.
Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 04, 2023, 06:58 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2023, 06:36 PMIt would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?
Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.
Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
Fair enough seems about even then, I'm pleasantly surprised only 6% of the respondents think there is no problem with gun violence in the US.
So most people accept there is.
That's a good place to start.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 04, 2023, 06:50 PMQuote from: Guybrush on Apr 04, 2023, 05:59 PMWhy does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.
About Finland, I'm glad that Putin's plans seem to backfire so hard. That's what you get when you create a world of lies, I guess.
i'm not against gun violence- i'm against the wrong people falling victim to it - right to carry is the right to equalize
this is especially liberating for black women in poor neighborhoods
As the old saying goes: "They say God made man, but Sam Colt made them equal"
dang
kid rock is INTENSELY transphobic
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/kid-rock-bud-light-woke-trans-protest-dylan-mulvaney-1234709445/
Hysterical. I hope every company announces support for trans people so conservatives won't be able to buy any products.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 05, 2023, 03:27 PMHysterical. I hope every company announces support for trans people so conservatives won't be able to buy any products.
way more beer is sold at gay friendly nightclubs than at washed up midlife crisis concerts
sorry conservatives capitalism isn't going to save you on this one
Maybe they can usher in a new era of prohibition. :laughing: For conservatives only. While the rest of us get on with our lives.
:beer:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 05, 2023, 02:48 PMdang
kid rock is INTENSELY transphobic
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/kid-rock-bud-light-woke-trans-protest-dylan-mulvaney-1234709445/
Real men don't drink light beer. ;D
Light beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 06, 2023, 01:23 AMLight beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.
It's like sex in a canoe.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2023, 07:48 PMQuote from: Janszoon on Apr 04, 2023, 06:58 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2023, 06:36 PMIt would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?
Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.
Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
Fair enough seems about even then, I'm pleasantly surprised only 6% of the respondents think there is no problem with gun violence in the US.
So most people accept there is.
That's a good place to start.
its not a good place to start if by that you mean that we can eventually ban guns in this country.
I'm not trying to sound condescending here but most Europeans and brits really don't understand how firmly entrenched guns are in our society.
It would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of gun rights. That's simply not going to happen. We have a better chance of seeing a genuine revolution or civil war than we do of peacefully banning guns in the United States.
There are minor things that can potentially be done and should be done like tweaking the red flag laws, background checks etc. But it won't make a dent in the 10 thousand or so gun murders a year.
Another thing i wanted to mention. From the pew article:
QuoteFor example, a majority of Republicans who don't own a gun (57%) say they favor creating a federal government database to track all gun sales, ...
Honestly i feel like this is one thing that could make an actual difference: a properly enforced database for gun registry that holds people accountable for maintaining the possession of their gun . In other words, if it's sold, stolen, misplaced etc all of that should be something you have to register with a state agency. This is to try to make it harder for people to just buy guns through the legal market and then turn around and sell them on the black market with scratched off serial numbers so they can be used in murders and wiped for prints and thrown in a river. Then they can't be traced.
If you were to use your gun which is in your name in a murder, it can potentially be traced back to you through ballistic forensics. Fortunately for all the gang members in this country, it's currently very easy to get an illegal gun that is not linked to your name in any way because any attempt to monitor gun sales is just "the first step to them rounding up gun owners and taking their guns." And if you listen to the right, it's supposedly crucially important we don't ever allow that to happen cause then tyranny! Hitler and Mao banned guns etc. It's all a bunch of happy horseshit that people just repeat mindlessly.
Meanwhile we've gone hundreds of years without any body ever successfully revolting against our government. We live in a virtual police state. We have the patriot act and the NSA. And when armed citizens do take to the streets they're much more likely to terrorize other civilians than they are to ever stand up for anybodys rights. If anything, guns just give us the illusion of power. Which keeps us complacent. What's the point of a gun if you're not going to use it?
QuoteIt would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of gun rights.
i've emailed gun control lobbies and told them the only serious approach is an amendment
you're right that is very unlikely but it's also the only play
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 06, 2023, 02:01 AMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 06, 2023, 01:50 AMQuote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 06, 2023, 01:23 AMLight beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.
It's like sex in a canoe.
Fun and outdoorsy.
Great description. I love beer. And I'm not much for watery light domestic beers, but in the right context (hot summer day, after a hike or something - or at a barbecue with friends), it hits the spot. Also, sex in a canoe sounds like a blast assuming I owned a canoe and there were no imminent waterfalls.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 06, 2023, 03:05 AMQuoteIt would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of gun rights.
i've emailed gun control lobbies and told them the only serious approach is an amendment
you're right that is very unlikely but it's also the only play
i would stick with the assertion that it's not just unlikely, it's not going to happen. Period. Maybe I'm just black pilled on this but yeah. I honestly find the idea of overthrowing the government and starting from scratch more plausible than peacefully disarming the most armed and amped up population in the world.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 06, 2023, 03:33 AMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 06, 2023, 03:05 AMQuoteIt would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of gun rights.
i've emailed gun control lobbies and told them the only serious approach is an amendment
you're right that is very unlikely but it's also the only play
i would stick with the assertion that it's not just unlikely, it's not going to happen. Period. Maybe I'm just black pilled on this but yeah. I honestly find the idea of overthrowing the government and starting from scratch more plausible than peacefully disarming the most armed and amped up population in the world.
i agree ... i think repealing the second amendment is has a .000000001% chance of happening
but if your goal is gun control in america that's the play
I agree to an extent. In principle theres no doubt to me that it worked for certain countries like England etc.
But it only works if you actually ban guns in general. Not just the scary ones. And that only works if you can enforce it. Which i also doubt our ability to do.
But like i said in the edit to my post from earlier, i think if we are talking gun control in this country, a properly enforced registry is probably the best play. It could make it harder to get illegal guns, which are used in the vast majority of gang killings etc. Which represents a much bigger part of the homicide pie chart than mass shootings, which are still a very fringe and uncommon circumstance for a shooting, as often as they seem to happen.
Why not just change the constitution? They're documents from a bygone era. Parts of them are downright corny.
I think parts of the Norwegian constitution either just got changed or are about to be, parts that have to do with royalty and how the constitution gives them no religious freedom (they have to be christian).
If it's out if touch with current reality and does more damage than good, then the goal should be to change it. Why act as if they're set in stone and are nigh impossible to change? They can be, but only if people decide it. You're a democracy. You're supposed to be able to change things.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 06, 2023, 02:01 AMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 06, 2023, 01:50 AMIt's like sex in a canoe.
Fun and outdoorsy.
:laughing:
It's an old joke, so I imagine you know the punchline but just in case you haven't heard it...
Spoiler
Fucking near water
I don't get it...
QuoteWhy not just change the constitution? They're documents from a bygone era. Parts of them are downright corny.
there's a process to add an amendment
but the thought of allowing our current cohort of elected buffoons trying for a new constitutional convention- no way
you're right that the language is archaic and sometimes not especially useful but the system of checks and balances and the process for change are still gold
we need a new economic justice bill of rights and a no first strike military amendment and an environmental bill of responsibilities but who knows - once we die off today's youth might get fix this dumpster fire
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 06, 2023, 01:27 PMI don't get it...
The beer is so watered down that it's nearly water.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 06, 2023, 12:24 PMQuote from: Janszoon on Apr 06, 2023, 02:01 AMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 06, 2023, 01:50 AMIt's like sex in a canoe.
Fun and outdoorsy.
:laughing:
It's an old joke, so I imagine you know the punchline but just in case you haven't heard it...
Spoiler
Fucking near water
Haha, I do know it. I first heard it from Eric Idle in that Australian skit.
@Jwb no I know, but if the vast majority agree there is a problem then it is a good place to start. I expected way more to be in denial and deny there is a problem.
I don't know if you've said before but in a nutshell are you pro gun or anti gun?
If you could peacefully ban guns in the USA tomorrow and be in the same position the UK is, would you do it?
QuoteI'm not trying to sound condescending here but most Europeans and brits really don't understand how firmly entrenched guns are in our society.
After Columbine, the NYT ran a lead editorial that read "the cultural fragments out of which Mr. Harris and Mr. Klebold invented themselves, and their deaths, are now ubiquitous in every community, urban, suburban, and rural."
Which is such a brilliant way of putting it. US media really fell off in the past quarter of a century
https://pitchfork.com/news/aerosmiths-steven-tyler-issues-denial-over-1970s-sexual-abuse-allegations/
steven tyler is being sued for having a sexual relationship with a 16 year old 50 years ago when he was 25
from what i can gather they had sex in states where the age of consent was 18 and he bragged about the relationship in his memoir
not sure if he's covered by statute of limitations or if it applies in a lawsuit
the language being used is "sexual assault" and "rape"
the girl's mother turned guardianship over to tyler when she was 16
Am I missing something? How can he be claiming that the fact he was her guardian gave him the right to sleep with her? Surely, if anything, morally if not legally, it gave him the exact opposite? If someone is entrusted into your care you don't have the right to abuse that trust and then say "oh well I was their guardian". Am I wrong here?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 07, 2023, 03:18 AMAm I missing something? How can he be claiming that the fact he was her guardian gave him the right to sleep with her? Surely, if anything, morally if not legally, it gave him the exact opposite? If someone is entrusted into your care you don't have the right to abuse that trust and then say "oh well I was their guardian". Am I wrong here?
i think it just gave him permission to take her on tour with the band and pull her out of school
i don't blame her for trying to pad her nest egg but gtfoh w/ trying to tell me going on tour w/ with aerosmith and being the girlfriend of one of the biggest rockstars in the world wasn't the best time of her life
We all know many rockers did some shady shit with far too young groupies back in the day. I agree the guardiaship adds a layer of ick. I assume that means she had noone else and you're supposed to take the role of parent and not bang the child. The power in that relationship is all skewed his way.
I guess what's a little weird is it being brought up so much later. I think in order to really comment on that, it'd be relevant to know more about how it was for her and how it affected her later in life.
the girl's mom was hoping to cash in on it
Quotethat, it'd be relevant to know more about how it was for her and how it affected her later in life
she got married and became a teacher and was probably the only one in her social circle who ever did anything worth talking about
he dumped her when she was 19 probably for another 16 year old so she never got to cash in - she deserves a secure retirement for services rendered even if it's five decades on
it's not because she was damaged that she deserves compensation it's because all the twenty and thirty something rock stars back then had teenage girlfriends- it was a part of the lifestyle- he was able to live the rock star lifestyle fantasy of that era because the people around him played their role as well - the roadies the groupies they all deserve further compensation
hell, i bought their records when i was around 13 or whatever- i should probably get at least ten grand - i too built their empire of decadence
i fully rocked out on sweet emotion, for example
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 09:50 AMall the twenty and thirty something rock stars back then had teenage girlfriends- it was a part of the lifestyle-
Considering how common it seems to have been in rock star circles back then, I'm actually surprised that more of the male rock stars still above ground from that era don't end up with those types of legal problems these days.
I read I'm With the Band, the groupie confessions autobiography and it did seem like pedophilia was rampant on the US west coast hippie / freak / music scenes in general.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 07, 2023, 11:43 AMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 09:50 AMall the twenty and thirty something rock stars back then had teenage girlfriends- it was a part of the lifestyle-
Considering how common it seems to have been in rock star circles back then, I'm actually surprised that more of the male rock stars still above ground from that era don't end up with those types of legal problems these days.
they pay hush money -
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 07, 2023, 11:55 AMI read I'm With the Band, the groupie confessions autobiography and it did seem like pedophilia was rampant on the US west coast hippie / freak / music scenes in general.
fun book - nothing in it about sex with prepubescents that i recall - rich and powerful men having sex with girls as soon as they hit puberty has been the norm in every human culture ever except on the greek island of eunuchs
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 01:55 PMQuote from: Guybrush on Apr 07, 2023, 11:55 AMI read I'm With the Band, the groupie confessions autobiography and it did seem like pedophilia was rampant on the US west coast hippie / freak / music scenes in general.
fun book - nothing in it about sex with prepubescents that i recall - rich and powerful men having sex with girls as soon as they hit puberty has been the norm in every human culture ever except on the greek island of eunuchs
You may have to read it again. One couple early on has a child that eventually dies. I think it falls through a roof window, possibly while on LSD. Before that happens, she describes how they sit in this hippy circle and pass this little boy around and the girls make out with him.
There's a photographer who wants to take pics of a naked 12 year old on a horse. The writer sometimes laments that guys in general find the lowest teen hotter. She loses Jimmy Page's interest (I believe it was) to someone who's way too young.
The author isn't addressing it very directly (she's not very judgmental), but its presence is definitely there.
To put it a bit simplistically, sexual mores have shifted in the US from a fashion for libertinism at least in certain circles all the way back to the American default of puritan paranoia. The human mind isn't really prepared to absorb such dramatic shifts in worldview, hence we're living in an ongoing sex panic.
There was like a month where all Twitter talked about was how some Youtube or podcast retard cheated on his wife and how they all streamed about it. One of the biggest MeToo scandals in the Montreal art scene was over a consensual sex between adults: amid the general outpouring of sex feelings the woman suddenly decided that she was used or something. "It wasn't cool because he was married" was quite a refrain
I've never realized Canadian women in the 2010s were helpless victims of the patriarchy with zero agency or control over a sexual encounter but that was the picture being put forward by all that.
Not to say there's been no positives to things like MeToo
Quoteshe describes how they sit in this hippy circle and pass this little boy around and the girls make out with him.
There's a photographer who wants to take pics of a naked 12 year old on a horse
i know there are aggressive rumors about page but i don't think there's anything substantial about anything prepubescent even in that book - the other examples aren't actually sex
QuoteNot to say there's been no positives to things like MeToo
an educated (usually white) woman upper middle class or higher who didn't even say no is the height of victimhood but the working class woman who cleans urine and feces in his bathroom everyday for thirty years is lucky to have a job - miss me with the pity party
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 08:09 AMQuote from: Trollheart on Apr 07, 2023, 03:18 AMAm I missing something? How can he be claiming that the fact he was her guardian gave him the right to sleep with her? Surely, if anything, morally if not legally, it gave him the exact opposite? If someone is entrusted into your care you don't have the right to abuse that trust and then say "oh well I was their guardian". Am I wrong here?
i think it just gave him permission to take her on tour with the band and pull her out of school
i don't blame her for trying to pad her nest egg but gtfoh w/ trying to tell me going on tour w/ with aerosmith and being the girlfriend of one of the biggest rockstars in the world wasn't the best time of her life
tbf you could probably say the same thing for the kids that got to party at Neverland Ranch lol
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 07, 2023, 03:03 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 08:09 AMQuote from: Trollheart on Apr 07, 2023, 03:18 AMAm I missing something? How can he be claiming that the fact he was her guardian gave him the right to sleep with her? Surely, if anything, morally if not legally, it gave him the exact opposite? If someone is entrusted into your care you don't have the right to abuse that trust and then say "oh well I was their guardian". Am I wrong here?
i think it just gave him permission to take her on tour with the band and pull her out of school
i don't blame her for trying to pad her nest egg but gtfoh w/ trying to tell me going on tour w/ with aerosmith and being the girlfriend of one of the biggest rockstars in the world wasn't the best time of her life
tbf you could probably say the same thing for the kids that got to party at Neverland Ranch lol
didn't chappelle do a skit where the kid is bragging about being molested by michael jackson
https://apnews.com/article/a832aa48f71827a83c35c47135c90f68
QuoteThe real-life crucifixions in the farming village of San Pedro Cutud in Pampanga province north of Manila resumed after a three-year pause due to the coronavirus pandemic. About a dozen villagers registered but only eight men participated, including 62-year-old sign painter Ruben Enaje, who was nailed to a wooden cross for the 34th time in San Pedro Cutud.
very reasonable
i wouldn't want to be crucified and then get covid
that would be just too much
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 03:08 PMQuote from: Jwb on Apr 07, 2023, 03:03 PMtbf you could probably say the same thing for the kids that got to party at Neverland Ranch lol
didn't chappelle do a skit where the kid is bragging about being molested by michael jackson
:laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 03:15 PMhttps://apnews.com/article/a832aa48f71827a83c35c47135c90f68
QuoteThe real-life crucifixions in the farming village of San Pedro Cutud in Pampanga province north of Manila resumed after a three-year pause due to the coronavirus pandemic. About a dozen villagers registered but only eight men participated, including 62-year-old sign painter Ruben Enaje, who was nailed to a wooden cross for the 34th time in San Pedro Cutud.
very reasonable
i wouldn't want to be crucified and then get covid
that would be just too much
For the 34th time? It probably made him shoot webs like spider man.
Auschwitz Memorial calls WWE 'shameless' for using its image in a match promo (https://www.npr.org/2023/04/06/1168348949/wwe-wrestlemania-auschwitz-dominik-mysterio)QuoteThe wrestling entertainment giant WWE, known for its manufactured storylines, is facing real controversy after fans noticed it used an image of the Auschwitz concentration camp to promote a match on Saturday.
Quote"We had no knowledge of what was depicted," the WWE said in statement to NBC News on Friday. "As soon as we learned, it was removed immediately. We apologize for this error."
they admitted they made a mistake and apologized
the museum should now say preciate it and that should be that
I would have noticed that had I not been told prior. They must be really thick if they honestly didn't know what it was.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 03:08 PMQuote from: Jwb on Apr 07, 2023, 03:03 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 07, 2023, 08:09 AMQuote from: Trollheart on Apr 07, 2023, 03:18 AMAm I missing something? How can he be claiming that the fact he was her guardian gave him the right to sleep with her? Surely, if anything, morally if not legally, it gave him the exact opposite? If someone is entrusted into your care you don't have the right to abuse that trust and then say "oh well I was their guardian". Am I wrong here?
i think it just gave him permission to take her on tour with the band and pull her out of school
i don't blame her for trying to pad her nest egg but gtfoh w/ trying to tell me going on tour w/ with aerosmith and being the girlfriend of one of the biggest rockstars in the world wasn't the best time of her life
tbf you could probably say the same thing for the kids that got to party at Neverland Ranch lol
didn't chappelle do a skit where the kid is bragging about being molested by michael jackson
i think you're talking about this sketch
That's the only one i remember about the mj trial. He doesn't make the specific joke you're referencing but it's still good stuff.
He also made a joke on the stand up special "Sticks and Stones" about mj being innocent based on the fact that there are no accusations that he molested Macaulay Culkin, despite how much time he spent with him. "He's the first one you would molest!"
Ironically what prompted me to make that joke was i was recently listening to a comedy based radio show talking about the Leaving Neverland special and his victims talk about it as if they didn't realize it was abuse at the time, and one of them even noted how jealous they were when MJ seemingly "replaced" him with Macaulay..
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 06, 2023, 02:22 PM@Jwb no I know, but if the vast majority agree there is a problem then it is a good place to start. I expected way more to be in denial and deny there is a problem.
I don't know if you've said before but in a nutshell are you pro gun or anti gun?
If you could peacefully ban guns in the USA tomorrow and be in the same position the UK is, would you do it?
forgot to answer this
In a nutshell, I'm anti gun. In theory, if we could pull off what England has with gun control, obviously that would be preferable to the situation we have here. But for a variety of reasons i don't think it's feasible. The politics of it and how people would react is only part of the story. Like i indicated earlier, i don't believe for a second that England would be nearly so successful with its gun control if you had 3000 or so miles of border to patrol. It's a lot easier when people are pretty much forced to go through customs just to get in your country.
Lmao @ all we get is awkward Thanksgivings for the rest of our lives. I forgot about that line.
But yeah that's Sticks and Stones. I thought you were referencing chappelle show.
What's the deal with this abortion drug thing, guys? Anyone know about that? They ban it, then the judge says no I'll wait to see if Biden wants to override my decision? Anyone got information on what the hell this is all about?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 08, 2023, 01:23 PMWhat's the deal with this abortion drug thing, guys? Anyone know about that? They ban it, then the judge says no I'll wait to see if Biden wants to override my decision? Anyone got information on what the hell this is all about?
confusing af tbh so anyone that wants to correct me please do
the drug, Mifepristone, was approved by the fda a long time ago but now state courts are challenging the legality of it trying to get it to our primarily catholic supreme court who are likely to take a break from their usual routine of playing doctor with children to play doctor with doctors
it's totally nutty for the supreme court to overrule the fda since they have no medical expertise at all and there's absolutely no precedent for it either
it's another state against state and political overreach let's just get the second civil war started republican anti-freedom campaign
i will not vote for any democrat who will not stack the court even if they're running against trump or desantis
obama and biden are both so cowardly their administrations were mostly wasted
when i think about obama sitting around doing nothing while the turtle denied him his constitutional right to pick a justice it makes me want to punch him in the face
honestly it's hard to imagine two more wet blanket cowardly do nothings than obama and biden - it's infuriating
the democrats would rather bring lube to their own rape than a gun to defend themselves
https://apnews.com/article/74cb1c4cfab2c04f6cf2696151bc86ef
QuoteA conservative Texas judge on Friday put a dent in the blue wall of abortion rights protections, issuing an order that could suspend approval of a drug used in medication abortions by women across the country – including in states with robust protections in place.
Here's the judge. He's Catholic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_J._Kacsmaryk
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY (https://i.postimg.cc/QCQPjPNN/301-BA347-3911-4-B41-8-C68-B9515-C1-E64-EB.jpg)
Doesn't time fly.
What a day that was. Never seen such an outpouring of joy and celebration from the working class. All united as one.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 08, 2023, 06:38 PMDoesn't time fly.
What a day that was. Never seen such an outpouring of joy and celebration from the working class. All united as one.
i hope we get down like that when trump dies
we blew a good chance to boogie down when nixon died and reagan but really nixon should've been the blowout of the century
Irish people celebrated almost as hard. What a one hundred percent, cast iron bitch from Hell.
and
:laughing:
Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penalise unveiled women (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-installs-cameras-public-places-identify-penalise-unveiled-women-police-2023-04-08/)
At the same time, in Germany...
Women can now swim topless in Berlin's swimming pools (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/berlin-public-swimming-pools-intl/index.html)
Feds barged into the wrong hotel room during a drill, then detained the guest inside (https://www.npr.org/2023/04/06/1168411546/fbi-army-detain-wrong-person-boston-hotel-drill)Quote"The safety of civilians in [the] vicinity of our training is always our number one concern."
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 09, 2023, 03:06 PMFeds barged into the wrong hotel room during a drill, then detained the guest inside (https://www.npr.org/2023/04/06/1168411546/fbi-army-detain-wrong-person-boston-hotel-drill)
Quote"The safety of civilians in [the] vicinity of our training is always our number one concern."
they deserve the same consequence the victim would've received if he "accidentally" broke into their room and handcuffed one of them in the shower for 45 minutes by "mistake"
which would certainly end in death
It seems crazy that they would conduct such a training drill in an actual hotel with guests staying there, anyway.
The cops don't have a mock-up hotel/building somewhere (like fire departments do) that they could use for that type of training?
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 09, 2023, 04:58 PMIt seems crazy that they would conduct such a training drill in an actual hotel with guests staying there, anyway.
The cops don't have a mock-up hotel/building somewhere (like fire departments do) that they could use for that type of training?
if you think this was an honest mistake i got a bridge to sell you
4 teens shot, injured during celebration of life gathering in Houston, Texas (https://news.yahoo.com/4-teens-shot-injured-during-090852036.html)
Dalai Lama apologizes after video shows him kissing boy (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dalai-lama-apologizes-after-video-shows-kissing-boy-98467416)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 10, 2023, 02:04 PMDalai Lama apologizes after video shows him kissing boy (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dalai-lama-apologizes-after-video-shows-kissing-boy-98467416)
QuoteThe Dalai Lama then asked the boy to kiss him on the lips and stuck out his tongue. "And suck my tongue," the Dalai Lama can be heard saying as the boy sticks out his own tongue and leans in, prompting laughter from the audience.
Nonce.
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five people were killed and six more wounded in a mass shooting Monday morning inside a bank in Louisville
The Gun Violence Archive resource website defines a mass shooting in which four or more victims are killed or wounded. As of Monday morning, there had been at least 145 shootings which fit that definition, according to the website.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 10, 2023, 02:04 PMDalai Lama apologizes after video shows him kissing boy (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dalai-lama-apologizes-after-video-shows-kissing-boy-98467416)
IMO we should BAN the Dalai Lama from this forum
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There's no point: he'll just come back again. :laughing:
Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn break up after six years
(https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/09/entertainment/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-break-up/index.html)
My opinion about Taylor Swift's personal life is that all of her relationships are PR stunts because she's completely smooth down there like a Barbie doll
The only "authentic" relationship she could have is with one of those Gulf sheikhs who are a hundreds time richer than her and who can afford to fly her out to Dubai to defecate in her mouth (https://www.ghgossip.com/most-female-celebs-are-eating-the-poop-of-rich-men-in-dubai-in-exchange-for-money-to-sponsor-their-lavish-lives-socialite-drops-bombshell-video/) cause that's the only thing that still turns him on.
My opinion about Taylor Swift's personal life is that I don't care about Taylor Swift's personal life.
Quote from: jadis on Apr 10, 2023, 10:19 PMTaylor Swift and Joe Alwyn break up after six years
(https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/09/entertainment/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-break-up/index.html)
My opinion about Taylor Swift's personal life is that all of her relationships are PR stunts because she's completely smooth down there like a Barbie doll
The only "authentic" relationship she could have is with one of those Gulf sheikhs who are a hundreds time richer than her and who can afford to fly her out to Dubai to defecate in her mouth (https://www.ghgossip.com/most-female-celebs-are-eating-the-poop-of-rich-men-in-dubai-in-exchange-for-money-to-sponsor-their-lavish-lives-socialite-drops-bombshell-video/) cause that's the only thing that still turns him on.
I think you've lost me. What does Taylor Swift's "smoothness" have to do with the authenticity of her relationships? And I'm sure there's some that do that weird shit in Dubai, but do you really think Taylor Swift is one of them?
Not saying there's a logical connection there. i find her annoying in general and she seems weirdly sexless. Also it brings me joy to imagine an old Sheikh shitting in her mouth... that's the long and the short of it.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 10, 2023, 08:09 PMThere's no point: he'll just come back again. :laughing:
:laughing:
Two men hospitalized after game of Monopoly ends in sword fight (https://m.jpost.com/omg/article-738913)
"A federal judge wants to know if ex-President Donald Trump plans to attend a New York trial this month resulting from a columnist's claims that he raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s."
https://apnews.com/article/f8918262ef228775a7a7918549d305c1
uhoh
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 11, 2023, 01:49 PM"A federal judge wants to know if ex-President Donald Trump plans to attend a New York trial this month resulting from a columnist's claims that he raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s."
https://apnews.com/article/f8918262ef228775a7a7918549d305c1
uhoh
I'm guessing the answer is no.
I'm ready for the new season of Teflon Don. People tell me the 2024 Presidential Election Arc is the best plotline in the show. And getting Stormy Daniels to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? What a plot twist.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 11, 2023, 02:44 PMI'm ready for the new season of Teflon Don. People tell me the 2024 Presidential Election Arc is the best plotline in the show. And getting Stormy Daniels to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? What a plot twist.
if they start repossessing her belongings or garnishing her income i wouldn't be surprised if she commits suicide
then again maybe she can turn it into a net gain
that ruling was as vindictive as the related case against trump is now
these two cases are both political moves
this rape case is probably legit though and the stuff my home state of georgia is coming at him with is a dagger
never thought i'd say it but he's going down (on a young buck in prison)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 11, 2023, 03:15 PMQuote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 11, 2023, 02:44 PMI'm ready for the new season of Teflon Don. People tell me the 2024 Presidential Election Arc is the best plotline in the show. And getting Stormy Daniels to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? What a plot twist.
if they start repossessing her belongings or garnishing her income i wouldn't be surprised if she commits suicide
then again maybe she can turn it into a net gain
that ruling was as vindictive as the related case against trump is now
these two cases are both political moves
this rape case is probably legit though and the stuff my home state of georgia is coming at him with is a dagger
never thought i'd say it but he's going down (on a young buck in prison)
What happens if he gets elected before those cases move forward enough to produce any kind of result though. I'm going to assume that's his gameplan at this point. Bone spurs wants to run out the clock.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 11, 2023, 04:47 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 11, 2023, 03:15 PMQuote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 11, 2023, 02:44 PMI'm ready for the new season of Teflon Don. People tell me the 2024 Presidential Election Arc is the best plotline in the show. And getting Stormy Daniels to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? What a plot twist.
if they start repossessing her belongings or garnishing her income i wouldn't be surprised if she commits suicide
then again maybe she can turn it into a net gain
that ruling was as vindictive as the related case against trump is now
these two cases are both political moves
this rape case is probably legit though and the stuff my home state of georgia is coming at him with is a dagger
never thought i'd say it but he's going down (on a young buck in prison)
What happens if he gets elected before those cases move forward enough to produce any kind of result though. I'm going to assume that's his gameplan at this point. Bone spurs wants to run out the clock.
i read in the atlantic, i think, that he could serve as president while incarcerated
i guess biden could take his time moving out lol
This guy is going down. You can't have this level of contempt, ignore mass riots and protests, and still remain in power.
Macron signs controversial pension changes into law (https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2023/0415/1377182-france-pension-law/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20230415)
Loving Brandon in Ireland so much. He's so happy!
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1646980726469033986
Quote from: jadis on Apr 16, 2023, 10:38 AMLoving Brandon in Ireland so much. He's so happy!
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1646980726469033986
If he loves it there so much he should just stay there. :laughing:
What's the official reason for his trip there? Seems more like a bucket list item for him than an effort to improve relations.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 16, 2023, 10:45 PMWhat's the official reason for his trip there? Seems more like a bucket list item for him than an effort to improve relations.
No idea but it has the feel of some 23andMe birthright trip thing!
Anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/65305903
The Just Stop Oil lads have been getting naughty again.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11982601/Teen-died-overdosing-Benadryl-viral-TikTok-challenge.html
QuoteTeen dies after overdosing on FOURTEEN Benadryl tablets for viral TikTok challenge - as father shares heartbreaking photo taken before son's life support was switched off to warn of the dangers of the over-the-counter drug
Fucked up.
Some comments I saw online say that kids are stupid these days but I think kids have always done stupid shit. I can remember the thing when I was a teenager was playing chicken (deliberately running in front of cars at the last minute).
But still these TikTok challenges are mad. At least the milk crate thing was funny.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2023, 12:04 AMhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11982601/Teen-died-overdosing-Benadryl-viral-TikTok-challenge.html
QuoteTeen dies after overdosing on FOURTEEN Benadryl tablets for viral TikTok challenge - as father shares heartbreaking photo taken before son's life support was switched off to warn of the dangers of the over-the-counter drug
Fucked up.
Some comments I saw online say that kids are stupid these days but I think kids have always done stupid shit. I can remember the thing when I was a teenager was playing chicken (deliberately running in front of cars at the last minute).
But still these TikTok challenges are mad. At least the milk crate thing was funny.
13 years old
that's rough... and brave of his father to share the picture as fair warning to other youth even though everyone knows how permanent and cruel the internet is
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 17, 2023, 09:30 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/65305903
The Just Stop Oil lads have been getting naughty again.
I guess the art galleries have better security now so they're going for softer targets.
Their antics read like a Monty Python comedy skit. :laughing:
are they aware that billions of people would die in a matter of weeks if we just stopped using oil?
New Zealand cat-killing competition for children axed after backlash (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65320162?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
i understand getting rid of feral cats but you can't expect kids to make that distinction
why people can't spay and neuter their pets is beyond me
https://apnews.com/article/154c4e3275732b83bc9f0026a9981b81
16 year old black kid knocks on an 84 year old white man's door at around 10 pm in Kansas City and the old man shoots him twice
you can't shoot someone just for knocking on your door - it's not a stand your ground case - it's an unfortunate situation for the kid and the old man - the old man was obviously living in terror and probably for legit reasons- he still has to die in prison, i'm just acknowledging that we don't know what he lived through or what caused his paranoia - i'd like a serious sociologist to determine what's the likelihood that a stranger who knocked on HIS door (not anybody else's- some people have guests and don't) unannounced and black has nefarious intentions
i KNOW people will automatically conclude i'm trying to excuse the white guy but what i'm saying is that's what sociology is for - figuring out why
i've only had that happen twice and once it was a dude delivering pizza (or least that's what he said - i didn't open the door) and another time it was a loved one who didn't have their phone and needed help
but i yelled "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" both times
very unfriendly (at first) to make it clear they're unwelcome
so in a relatively "bad" area i'm two and oh in favor of it not being someone trying to do me harm
on the other hand my place was broken into during the day and once i heard someone trying to break into my car and i pointed my gun's laser sight on him and he ran off (a decision i regret tbh although no one was hurt and neither was my car)
i would NEVER point a gun at someone to protect property at this point in my life so no one needs to lecture me - putting a car before someone's life is shameful
but my point is - can we have an honest look at why we're so damn scared
once you've been hit with a break in or worse a real violent crime it tends to stick
or if you've had friends or family members killed or even just shot
the first death of someone i knew was girl i knew who was murdered when i was around 12 or 13
i think it changed my view of the world permanently
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/us/texas-cheerleaders-woodlands-elite-shooting
2 cheerleaders were shot in a Texas supermarket parking lot after one opened the door to the wrong vehicle. A suspect is under arrest
definitely not shooting a cheerleader who decides to climb into my car
i be like "hey gurl you just made a fantastic decision..."
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:33 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/us/texas-cheerleaders-woodlands-elite-shooting
2 cheerleaders were shot in a Texas supermarket parking lot after one opened the door to the wrong vehicle. A suspect is under arrest
definitely not shooting a cheerleader who decides to climb into my car
i be like "hey gurl you just made a fantastic decision..."
Good job you made that joke on here and not on Mb otherwise...
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The CIA have a chance to do something very, very funny
Quote from: jadis on Apr 19, 2023, 05:19 PMThe CIA have a chance to do something very, very funny
funniest joke on this site yet, by far
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:17 PMi've only had that happen twice and once it was a dude delivering pizza (or least that's what he said - i didn't open the door) and another time it was a loved one who didn't have their phone and needed help
You've only had an unexpected knock at your twice?
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:17 PMbut my point is - can we have an honest look at why we're so damn scared
once you've been hit with a break in or worse a real violent crime it tends to stick
or if you've had friends or family members killed or even just shot
the first death of someone i knew was girl i knew who was murdered when i was around 12 or 13
i think it changed my view of the world permanently
There are definitely people who are scared because of bad experiences they've had, but I think a major part of the equation here is the gun industry pushing the narrative that the solution to being scared is to buy a gun. Other countries have crime and scared people, but as far as I'm aware, the US is unique in terms of having so much pro-gun advocacy.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 19, 2023, 05:50 PMThere are definitely people who are scared because of bad experiences they've had, but I think a major part of the equation here is the gun industry pushing the narrative that the solution to being scared is to buy a gun. Other countries have crime and scared people, but as far as I'm aware, the US is unique in terms of having so much pro-gun advocacy.
America definitely has an unusual and unhealthy/crazy obsession with guns.
Here's another similar one from the past few days...
Kaylin Gillis' parents left 'devastated' over daughter's upstate NY shooting death (https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/kaylin-gillis-remembered-by-parents-in-touching-tributes/) There are so many shootings every day in America, it seems unreal...
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Guns in America (https://www.rd.com/article/gun-violence-statistics/)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 05:32 PMQuote from: jadis on Apr 19, 2023, 05:19 PMThe CIA have a chance to do something very, very funny
funniest joke on this site yet, by far
Don't get it...
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 19, 2023, 03:36 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:33 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/us/texas-cheerleaders-woodlands-elite-shooting
2 cheerleaders were shot in a Texas supermarket parking lot after one opened the door to the wrong vehicle. A suspect is under arrest
definitely not shooting a cheerleader who decides to climb into my car
i be like "hey gurl you just made a fantastic decision..."
Good job you made that joke on here and not on Mb otherwise...
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Yeah I don't think anyone on MB would have had a problem with that joke. We're not Puritans you know.
QuoteYou've only had an unexpected knock at your twice?
at night in the hood in this part of florida - only two in around 15 years
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 19, 2023, 06:56 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 19, 2023, 03:36 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:33 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/us/texas-cheerleaders-woodlands-elite-shooting
2 cheerleaders were shot in a Texas supermarket parking lot after one opened the door to the wrong vehicle. A suspect is under arrest
definitely not shooting a cheerleader who decides to climb into my car
i be like "hey gurl you just made a fantastic decision..."
Good job you made that joke on here and not on Mb otherwise...
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Yeah I don't think anyone on MB would have had a problem with that joke. We're not Puritans you know.
it's sad to hear you say "we" when referring to that den of losers and scum
I'd think Americans are scared because you have a lot of poor people and junkies (who one might fear could resort to more desperate measures), far too many guns and racial tensions.
QuoteI think a major part of the equation here is the gun industry pushing the narrative that the solution to being scared is to buy a gun
i don't think that's a narrative they have to push
that's cold beer in hell
a gun is a god stick
some things sell themselves
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 19, 2023, 07:15 PMI'd think Americans are scared because you have a lot of poor people and junkies (who one might fear could resort to more desperate measures), far too many guns and racial tensions.
india has all that minus the guns and their big cities are pretty safe
Does India have a big drug problem? Wasn't aware of that.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:19 PMQuote from: Guybrush on Apr 19, 2023, 07:15 PMI'd think Americans are scared because you have a lot of poor people and junkies (who one might fear could resort to more desperate measures), far too many guns and racial tensions.
india has all that minus the guns and their big cities are pretty safe
Maybe people are scared there too? A little less since there's less guns, maybe 🙂
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 06:58 PMQuoteYou've only had an unexpected knock at your twice?
at night in the hood in this part of florida - only two in around 15 years
That's interesting, I've had the experience many times where I live, but my front steps are right on the sidewalk so I probably have a lot more foot traffic passing by my door.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:18 PMi don't think that's a narrative they have to push
that's cold beer in hell
a gun is a god stick
some things sell themselves
If they don't have to, why do they spend so much time and money doing so? This is about them moving product.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 19, 2023, 07:20 PMDoes India have a big drug problem? Wasn't aware of that.
yeah - they got a lot of addicts but - i'm not an expert but i saw signs about it there - i'd guess the ratio is much smaller but the incredible density of people means everything imaginable is going on -
but culturally they're superior to americans
they don't just hurt each other for amusement or not often
the usa has a lot of really good people but it's also super aggressive
like i've never been to any other country where you had to be so forceful to get drinks in a busy bar
if you just go up to the bar they never ask you what you need until you flash money point make gestures all that
just for example
QuoteThat's interesting, I've had the experience many times where I live, but my front steps are right on the sidewalk so I probably have a lot more foot traffic passing by my door.
now i'm in a neighborhood where everyone has big fences, some with razor wire - but to knock on our door at night means you already climbed a fence or broke a lock
in some cities you can't reach anybody's door (san francisco)
in flatbush it was a big metal thing you needed a key to just to get to a door
i didn't live there but bed stuy was razor wire everywhere like a prison
but yeah our old place had an easy open fence but it was down an uninviting alley
QuoteIf they don't have to, why do they spend so much time and money doing so? This is about them moving product.
well that's political
the anti-gun lobby spends money too
but guns sell on their own - that's my take anyway-
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:14 PMQuote from: Trollheart on Apr 19, 2023, 06:56 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 19, 2023, 03:36 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 03:33 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/us/texas-cheerleaders-woodlands-elite-shooting
2 cheerleaders were shot in a Texas supermarket parking lot after one opened the door to the wrong vehicle. A suspect is under arrest
definitely not shooting a cheerleader who decides to climb into my car
i be like "hey gurl you just made a fantastic decision..."
Good job you made that joke on here and not on Mb otherwise...
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Yeah I don't think anyone on MB would have had a problem with that joke. We're not Puritans you know.
it's sad to hear you say "we" when referring to that den of losers and scum
Sorry man. No matter what you'd like to think, I'm still very much active over there, and I don't have a real problem with them. I'm not going to become an MB-hater: there's enough Trollheart to go round.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:47 PMQuoteIf they don't have to, why do they spend so much time and money doing so? This is about them moving product.
well that's political
the anti-gun lobby spends money too
but guns sell on their own - that's my take anyway-
It may be political for some people, but that doesn't change the fact the gun industry is profit driven. They promote gun ownership because it improves their bottom line.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 19, 2023, 08:11 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:47 PMQuoteIf they don't have to, why do they spend so much time and money doing so? This is about them moving product.
well that's political
the anti-gun lobby spends money too
but guns sell on their own - that's my take anyway-
It may be political for some people, but that doesn't change the fact the gun industry is profit driven. They promote gun ownership because it improves their bottom line.
can't disagree with that
that's the truth
---well.. they promote the right to gun ownership but guns sell themselves if that's a distinction worth making
i do indeed agree that it's about a profit driven bottom line - no two ways about that
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 19, 2023, 06:56 PMYeah I don't think anyone on MB would have had a problem with that joke. We're not Puritans you know.
yeah no one would have minded
There's at least 3 people on there who would immediately sieze on any opportunity to call him a pedo. I get the diplomacy but let's cut the shit for just a second.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 19, 2023, 07:19 PMQuote from: Guybrush on Apr 19, 2023, 07:15 PMI'd think Americans are scared because you have a lot of poor people and junkies (who one might fear could resort to more desperate measures), far too many guns and racial tensions.
india has all that minus the guns and their big cities are pretty safe
yeah lol. so does england.
Shit is clear as day when you just compare crime rates in London vs NYC. London has a crime rate that in genreral would rate up there with an American city. In every category except murder, where its not even comparable.
They have all the ingredients for a big dangerous city that our cities do. They have the gangs, the poverty, the racial tension, etc. Their gangsters just aren't as well armed. That's the only significant difference.
But aren't you guys glad we're so free from government tyranny at least?
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 20, 2023, 02:38 AMThere's at least 3 people on there who would immediately sieze on any opportunity to call him a pedo. I get the diplomacy but let's cut the shit for just a second.
to be fair though i did run a train on all three of them when they were 13
Now that's the OH i remember!
Minor note: if there's 3 of them and 1 of you that would lend itself more to them running a train on you. Which is not nearly as potent of a diss. :p
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 20, 2023, 03:11 AMNow that's the OH i remember!
Minor note: if there's 3 of them and 1 of you that would lend itself more to them running a train on you. Which is not nearly as potent of a diss. :p
you need to review your 2 Live Crew lyrics
wait
me and my homies like to play this game
some call it amtrack but we call it the train
we always line up in a single file line
and take our turns at waxing girls behinds
uh oh 😟
Dun dun dunnnn
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 20, 2023, 03:20 AMI know what a train is lol
That refers to him and a few of his friends fucking the same girl back to back
Which is why i said if there's 3 of them and only 1 of you, there's only one way to make that a train. And it involves the 3 of them taking turns on you.
that's why i did the uh oh frowny face
i was the victim
those three should be investigated #metoo
Damn you're too quick. I realized that right after i posted and edited within 45 seconds tops. Fuckin gunslinger.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 20, 2023, 02:38 AMThere's at least 3 people on there who would immediately sieze on any opportunity to call him a pedo. I get the diplomacy but let's cut the shit for just a second.
I'm not trying to be diplomatic at all, I genuinely think it's nonsense. Unless cheerleaders are by definition underage actually, then you would be right. I didn't think about that, but that would just be an American/European misunderstanding
Egyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65322821?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 20, 2023, 09:45 AMQuote from: Jwb on Apr 20, 2023, 02:38 AMThere's at least 3 people on there who would immediately sieze on any opportunity to call him a pedo. I get the diplomacy but let's cut the shit for just a second.
I'm not trying to be diplomatic at all, I genuinely think it's nonsense. Unless cheerleaders are by definition underage actually, then you would be right. I didn't think about that, but that would just be an American/European misunderstanding
most cheerleaders are still in high school so without a further descriptor it's safe to make that delightful assumption
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 20, 2023, 01:01 PMEgyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65322821?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
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In Canada the age of consent varies between different provinces, 16 in most and 18 in some. Hence whether one is a "literal pedophile" for having consensual sex with a 17 year old is a mater of a train or bus ride.
Quote from: jadis on Apr 20, 2023, 01:56 PMIn Canada the age of consent varies between different provinces, 16 in most and 18 in some. Hence whether one is a "literal pedophile" for having consensual sex with a 17 year old is a mater of a train or bus ride.
stop trying to justify your sick perversions
you should be shot
you're a nazi
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 20, 2023, 01:01 PMEgyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65322821?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Their next doc:
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Can't wait 8)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 02:10 PMQuote from: jadis on Apr 20, 2023, 01:56 PMIn Canada the age of consent varies between different provinces, 16 in most and 18 in some. Hence whether one is a "literal pedophile" for having consensual sex with a 17 year old is a mater of a train or bus ride.
stop trying to justify your sick perversions
you should be shot
you're a nazi
The mere fact that I know the law is very "sus", because it suggests I intend to prey on minors. "Oh I bet you're an expert in the distinction between pedophile and ephebophile, yeah, you studied it veeeery well"
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 02:11 PMQuote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 20, 2023, 01:01 PMEgyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65322821?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Their next doc:
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Can't wait 8)
i bet he could beat up will smith 🤷🏾�♀️
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she's 25
this woman climbs into your car and instead of thinking this is the best day of my life you shoot her
wtf
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she's 25
this woman climbs into your car and instead of thinking this is the best day of my life you shoot her
wtf
Only in America.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/20/1171036873/north-carolina-shooting-child-basketball-suspect-search
A suspect is wanted for shooting a 6-year-old after a basketball rolled into his yard
people are getting extremely serious about the whole "get off my lawn" thing
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 07:28 PMhttps://www.npr.org/2023/04/20/1171036873/north-carolina-shooting-child-basketball-suspect-search
A suspect is wanted for shooting a 6-year-old after a basketball rolled into his yard
people are getting extremely serious about the whole "get off my lawn" thing
They don't mention the race of the perpetrator nor the victim on that one.
They always do when it's the other way round.
The media is a fucking disgrace stoking up racial tensions by doing that, BTW.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 07:34 PMThey don't mention the race of the perpetrator nor the victim on that one.
They always do when it's the other way round.
The media is a fucking disgrace stoking up racial tensions by doing that, BTW.
If they didn't mention anyone's race, how do you know what the "other way round" is?
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 07:38 PMIf they didn't mention anyone's race, how do you know what the "other way round" is?
...
There are pictures in the article.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 07:53 PM...
There are pictures in the article.
that's basically the same as telling us he's black, isn't it?
unless you believe race is a social construct
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 08:06 PMthat's basically the same as telling us he's black, isn't it?
unless you believe race is a social construct
When it's the other way round the race is mentioned in the headline and in the opening paragraph.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170581252/white-kansas-city-man-charged-with-shooting-black-teen-who-went-to-the-wrong-hou
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 07:53 PM...
There are pictures in the article.
I only saw one picture in the article.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 08:14 PMI only saw one picture in the article.
Scroll down. The embedded tweet shows a picture of the victim on mobile as well as her parents.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 08:09 PMWhen it's the other way round the race is mentioned in the headline and in the opening paragraph.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170581252/white-kansas-city-man-charged-with-shooting-black-teen-who-went-to-the-wrong-hou
both npr so yeah
tbh though i think it's good reporting
i believe that it's much more likely an old white guy shot that kid in part because he's black than that black guy had a racist motive
npr put a very likable photo up of the white kid who was shot and an ugly shot of the shooter
it's when they play the not releasing the ethnicity of minority criminals altogether that bothers me
if it's a non-issue or even not worth letting the reader decide i guess our race problems are over
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 08:18 PMScroll down. The embedded tweet shows a picture of the victim on mobile as well as her parents.
I don't see an embedded tweet either. I see a quote of a tweet or something.
also it's insane but at this point not unreasonable that we're talking about the fairness of the reporting instead of the horror that a six year old was shot
desensitization right there
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 08:25 PMalso it's insane but at this point not unreasonable that we're talking about the fairness of the reporting instead of the horror that a six year old was shot
desensitization right there
I agree about the horror of a six year old being shot.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 08:24 PMI don't see an embedded tweet either. I see a quote of a tweet or something.
Well, it's there.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 08:29 PMWell, it's there.
maybe not for him
the scripts change don't they
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you can tell that kid is always going to hate black people
I couldn't tell if Jans was being awkward over it. Apologies if you weren't
@Janszoon
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 08:52 PMI couldn't tell if Jans was being awkward over it. Apologies if you weren't @Janszoon
Awkward over what? This is what the page looks like for me:
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Another screenshot posted above where the pics are visible so it must just be your browser or device or something.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 09:18 PMAnother screenshot posted above where the pics are visible so it must just be your browser or device or something.
I saw the post above mine, I was just showing you what the story looked like to me since you made that weird "awkward over it" comment. But if you saw all the pictures, I'm unclear what you were complaining about.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 09:32 PMI saw the post above mine, I was just showing you what the story looked like to me since you made that weird "awkward over it" comment. But if you saw all the pictures, I'm unclear what you were complaining about.
It seemed like you were nitpicking or arguing over semantics - the tweet being linked not embedded, or race being mentioned because pics were included. Like I said if you weren't then I apologise.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 09:45 PMIt seemed like you were nitpicking or arguing over semantics - the tweet being linked not embedded, or race being mentioned because pics were included. Like I said if you weren't then I apologise.
Semantics? No. You were making a big deal about something that seemed ridiculous to me. Now that I know you could see pictures of everyone involved, it seems even more ridiculous that you were making such a big deal about it.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 09:58 PMSemantics? No. You were making a big deal about something that seemed ridiculous to me. Now that I know you could see pictures of everyone involved, it seems even more ridiculous that you were making such a big deal about it.
One post is not a big deal. Unless you're also now making a big deal about it as you've posted several times.
It is clearly mentioned in the headline and opening paragraph when the perpetrator is white and the victim is black. Reverse it and it isn't.
The media do this regularly and I assume this is to whip people up into a frenzy. It's very dishonest.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 10:04 PMThe media do this regularly and I assume this is to whip people up into a frenzy. It's very dishonest.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 20, 2023, 10:58 PMSounds like a conspiracy theory.
So you're going to claim it doesn't happen. I don't know why it happens but it definitely does:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ralph-yarl-shooting-suspect-kansas-city-b2321371.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/shooting-gastonia-singletary-basketball-garden-b2323066.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2023/apr/17/black-teen-shot-kansas-city
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/20/north-carolina-shooting-girl-parents-basketball-yard
Why is it ridiculous to point out if I think the reporting is unfair? You may disagree with my opinion but it isn't ridiculous. You certainly didn't think it was ridiculous when people had an issue with how the trans rapist was reported including in the headline.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 11:15 PMSo you're going to claim it doesn't happen. I don't know why it happens but it definitely does:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ralph-yarl-shooting-suspect-kansas-city-b2321371.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/shooting-gastonia-singletary-basketball-garden-b2323066.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2023/apr/17/black-teen-shot-kansas-city
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/20/north-carolina-shooting-girl-parents-basketball-yard
Why is it ridiculous to point out if I think the reporting is unfair? You may disagree with my opinion but it isn't ridiculous. You certainly didn't think it was ridiculous when people had an issue with how the trans rapist was reported including in the headline.
Damn man, do you keep a list of articles that have offended you in this way? :laughing: And, yes, I think your assessment sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Since all of the links you just posted seemed to be US focused, I'm just curious, are you unaware that the US has a long history of race based violence against black people (https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/history-lynching-america)? Do you think it might be reasonable, given that context, for news sources to be careful about contributing to hysteria?
Yet you didn't think it was a conspiracy when the trans headline was said to be deliberately worded to stoke hatred against the trans community.
If I posted no link you'd ask for evidence. It took literally two minutes to search those articles. I could post examples from the UK but you will only discredit those as well.
Such a cop out but I knew you would post something about 'context'. Race isn't relevant in either example yet only one has it at the forefront of the reporting.
So essentially you agree it happens but you think it's justified. Just say that then.
QuoteRace isn't relevant in either example yet only one has it at the forefront of the reporting.
you don't think that 80 something white dude was probably quicker to fire on a black kid?
QuoteI could post examples from the UK but you will only discredit those as well.
i think yall's media is even worse
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 11:54 PMyou don't think that 80 something white dude was probably quicker to fire on a black kid?
Maybe he was, I don't know. But the point is neither do you nor the media but it will be reported differently based on the race of the offender and victim and I think that is wrong and potentially harmful.
Nothing I've said is controversial or ridiculous in any way.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2023, 11:57 PMMaybe he was, I don't know. But the point is neither do you nor the media but it will be reported differently based on the race of the offender and victim and I think that is wrong and potentially harmful.
Nothing I've said is controversial or ridiculous in any way.
i agree with you except i'm not sure if you think race should ALWAYS be reported
i do because WHO is as fundamental as where
leaving out race is like leaving out the location or just saying Florida instead of downtown Orlando
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 12:01 AMi agree with you except i'm not sure if you think race should ALWAYS be reported
i do because WHO is as fundamental as where
leaving out race is like leaving out the location or just saying Florida instead of downtown Orlando
No I don't think it should always be reported. More like the other way.
If its relevant then fine, until we know otherwise then don't put it in the headline or even in the article. For example with the Stephen Lawrence case, race was relevant. But I don't think it should be stated by default only when the demographics are a certain way round. I think that is wrong.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 21, 2023, 12:06 AMNo I don't think it should always be reported. More like the other way.
If its relevant then fine, until we know otherwise then don't put it in the headline or even in the article. For example with the Stephen Lawrence case, race was relevant. But I don't think it should be stated by default only when the demographics are a certain way round. I think that is wrong.
so you think the media should cover up information -
I think race should be mentioned about as much as whether they've got a foreskin or when they last had a shit.
Unless as I said it is actually relevant to the case like it was with Stephen Lawrence.
that i don't see color garbage died with george floyd
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 01:05 PMI'm not trying to be diplomatic at all, I genuinely think it's nonsense. Unless cheerleaders are by definition underage actually, then you would be right. I didn't think about that, but that would just be an American/European misunderstanding
most cheerleaders are still in high school so without a further descriptor it's safe to make that delightful assumption
ok, you know I'm not ok with you being called a pedo, but you have no right to whine about people on MB calling you out when you make sexual jokes about underage girls. It's gross. This is what annoys me about your attitude towards MB: sure you have some grounds to complain about MB, but the way you do it is unreasonable, immature and gets in the way of acknowledging the problems with your own behaviour
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 21, 2023, 12:51 AMok, you know I'm not ok with you being called a pedo, but you have no right to whine about people on MB calling you out when you make sexual jokes about underage girls. It's gross. This is what annoys me about your attitude towards MB: sure you have some grounds to complain about MB, but the way you do it is unreasonable, immature and gets in the way of acknowledging the problems with your own behaviour
yes ma'am
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 20, 2023, 08:22 PMboth npr so yeah
tbh though i think it's good reporting
i believe that it's much more likely an old white guy shot that kid in part because he's black than that black guy had a racist motive
npr put a very likable photo up of the white kid who was shot and an ugly shot of the shooter
it's when they play the not releasing the ethnicity of minority criminals altogether that bothers me
if it's a non-issue or even not worth letting the reader decide i guess our race problems are over
i wouldn't classify including the race just based on "well don't ya think that old man is probably racist?" as very good reporting at all, lol.
If it was a hate crime or race was somehow suspected to be relevant by the authorities, then the race would certainly be news worthy. But honestly i don't doubt for a second they will go with the race angle quicker if it's a white perp and a black victim because that story will generate more interest and outrage just because of the racial aspect. Regardless of if it's actually true or not.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 21, 2023, 12:51 AMok, you know I'm not ok with you being called a pedo, but you have no right to whine about people on MB calling you out when you make sexual jokes about underage girls. It's gross. This is what annoys me about your attitude towards MB: sure you have some grounds to complain about MB, but the way you do it is unreasonable, immature and gets in the way of acknowledging the problems with your own behaviour
give me a break lol. He's very tame over here. That joke was tame af. Batlord & co aren't going to ever extend him the kind of charity you do, and when you tell them not to call him a pedo they just ignore you and eventually go right back to it.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 21, 2023, 03:06 AMgive me a break lol. He's very tame over here. That joke was tame af. Batlord & co aren't going to ever extend him the kind of charity you do, and when you tell them not to call him a pedo they just ignore you and eventually go right back to it.
but i waited until marie was 18
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 21, 2023, 03:06 AMgive me a break lol. He's very tame over here. That joke was tame af. Batlord & co aren't going to ever extend him the kind of charity you do, and when you tell them not to call him a pedo they just ignore you and eventually go right back to it.
i just don't get how people justify leaving the race of a criminal out of any crime report
it matters who committed the crime
i'm getting pretty tired of the well do you also need to know what color socks he was wearing or whatever people come up with
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 21, 2023, 03:06 AMgive me a break lol. He's very tame over here. That joke was tame af. Batlord & co aren't going to ever extend him the kind of charity you do, and when you tell them not to call him a pedo they just ignore you and eventually go right back to it.
nah jokes about underage girls are never ok, whether they're relatively tame or not. I'm not claiming everyone on MB will treat Hawk well if he's just on his best behaviour, that's not my point
When you see how much fear in society is exacerbated by the media, I think they should be held accountable and regulated more in terms of what they can and can't do.
If a minority is overrepresented in crime statistics, then that causes fear of that minority. That creates opportunity for media. They can probably get more engagement from playing on those fears, identifying that minority in crimes reporting, and as a result also help exacerbate society's fear.
This will of course help power a negative feedback loop that helps prevent that minority from gaining equality and get to a better place.
I find it problematic and if tensions are high, it's probably better (imo) if they just didn't (or weren't allowed to) identify race so readily.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 21, 2023, 10:02 AMWhen you see how much fear in society is exacerbated by the media, I think they should be held accountable and regulated more in terms of what they can and can't do.
If a minority is overrepresented in crime statistics, then that causes fear of that minority. That creates opportunity for media. They can probably get more engagement from playing on those fears, identifying that minority in crimes reporting, and as a result also help exacerbate society's fear.
This will of course help power a negative feedback loop that helps prevent that minority from gaining equality and get to a better place.
I find it problematic and if tensions are high, it's probably better (imo) if they just didn't (or weren't allowed to) identify race so readily.
it's the not media's responsibility to fix the world
they should report news as it is period
it's a hard job but they shouldn't be activists
Quoteor weren't allowed to
fascist af tbh
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 21, 2023, 10:02 AMWhen you see how much fear in society is exacerbated by the media, I think they should be held accountable and regulated more in terms of what they can and can't do.
I find it problematic and if tensions are high, it's probably better (imo) if they just didn't (or weren't allowed to) identify race so readily.
Yes :checkmark:
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 21, 2023, 03:01 AMi wouldn't classify including the race just based on "well don't ya think that old man is probably racist?" as very good reporting at all, lol.
If it was a hate crime or race was somehow suspected to be relevant by the authorities, then the race would certainly be news worthy. But honestly i don't doubt for a second they will go with the race angle quicker if it's a white perp and a black victim because that story will generate more interest and outrage just because of the racial aspect. Regardless of if it's actually true or not.
Yes :checkmark:
i'm pretty floored you think the media should be "regulated" and "held accountable" for reporting factually correct information
Quotejokes about underage girls are never ok
There are many assumptions behind this I don't follow. What moral imperative underlies this "ok"? Never ever admitting that you find a 17 yo attractive?
If a joke is between two fellas with no one else in the vicinity, should they still need to wash their mouths with soap? If she's a cheerleader but above the age of consent?
Quote from: jadis on Apr 21, 2023, 02:44 PMThere are many assumptions behind this I don't follow. What moral imperative underlies this "ok"? Never ever admitting that you find a 17 yo attractive?
If a joke is between two fellas with no one else in the vicinity, should they still need to wash their mouths with soap? If she's a cheerleader but above the age of consent?
it's natural for people to want to gatekeep other people's vaginas
they are very VERY special
especially the fresh ones
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 02:31 PMi'm pretty floored you think the media should be "regulated" and "held accountable" for reporting factually correct information
They can report facts but they should be relevant. Unless it is a factor in the story (and the victim being black/perp being white isn't good enough) then there's no need to mention it any more than mentioning whether they're left handed or whether they are fat. I just want common sense and consistency. Is that seriously too much to ask?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 21, 2023, 04:40 PMThey can report facts but they should be relevant. Unless it is a factor in the story (and the victim being black/perp being white isn't good enough) then there's no need to mention it any more than mentioning whether they're left handed or whether they are fat. I just want common sense and consistency. Is that seriously too much to ask?
it sounds like a reasonable expectation
but
1) race plays a role in every interaction in america
2) even granting your expectation as reasonable and race sometimes being only as relevant as left-handedness the call for "regulation" of the media is over the top and shows no respect for the freedom of the press
regulated? really?
common sense consistency is desirable- asking for regulation of the media to achieve it is using a hand grenade to kill a fly
Of course I'm for regulation. I'm a Norwegian left winger.
It's problematic if the way they make more money is by ruining society. Then I think some kind of regulation may be sensible.
Not all regulation is draconic, fascist or totalitarian. That's just the American in you 😊
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 21, 2023, 06:39 PMOf course I'm for regulation. I'm a Norwegian left winger.
It's problematic if the way they make more money is by ruining society. Then I think some kind of regulation may be sensible.
Not all regulation is draconic, fascist or totalitarian. That's just the American in you 😊
you support regulating which facts the media can report?
i'm not opposed to all regulation but regulating honest speech is a shocking position to me and the implementation of it would certainly be a form of totalitarianism
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 07:12 PMyou support regulating which facts the media can report?
i'm not opposed to all regulation but regulating honest speech is a shocking position to me and the implementation of it would certainly be a form of totalitarianism
There are many different means of regulation. Norwegian media follow (or are at least expected to follow) the same basic Code of Ethics that you can see here: https://presse.no/pfu/etiske-regler/vaer-varsom-plakaten/vvpl-engelsk/
If Norway was America, I would've suggested that it includes pointers on how to report on minorities or concerning race.
You probably have something similar?
what do propose the consequence should be for describing a person
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 07:59 PMwhat do propose the consequence should be for describing a person
Let's pretend it's Norway and let's say reporting on race was done weirdly (like in the title) when it should be completely irrelevant and the Code of Ethics says this is wrong.
Someone who recognizes this could make a complaint to the Media Professional Committee, referring to the offending material.
The committee would review it and make some judgment. If the publication is in error, the paper publicize a statement admitting fault ("we're sorry") for the offending article and also add a statement about this in the offending article itself.
This happens now and then here.
It's also possible to break the law by publishing things and the usual response is, I believe, a fine.
well getting a fine for identifying a fact might not be the iron fist of stalin but i don't like it -
people here thinking 84 year old white man shooting that 16 year old black kid probably isn't racial -
i'm not saying it's the only factor but it totally is one factor
of that was something npr could get fined for that would be nuts
so it only applies when the criminal is black
like the black guy shooting the white kid chasing his basketball
probably not racial but it might be
no regulatory committee should be able to decide that
if they police themselves unfairly against blacks or whites (like they do when the cops kill white people by underreporting i don't like it but they do their job how they do it - i don't have to like it)
If you're going to include it in some stories when it has nothing to do with what's happened then I'd rather you include it in all of them, obviously that's fucking stupid as well but at least it is consistent.
Just report the necessary facts, don't try to influence the reader by selectively choosing which details to report. You guys honestly don't see how only having it one way could increase hatred over time?
so if it's relevant is whose decision
cause you're telling me
and correct me if i'm wrong
that 84 year old white man wasn't quicker on the trigger when he saw a black face
if you are saying that ... nah
Quote from: jadis on Apr 21, 2023, 02:44 PMThere are many assumptions behind this I don't follow. What moral imperative underlies this "ok"? Never ever admitting that you find a 17 yo attractive?
If a joke is between two fellas with no one else in the vicinity, should they still need to wash their mouths with soap? If she's a cheerleader but above the age of consent?
smh at the soap comment. This is not something prissy.
Making a joke is very different from earnestly admitting something. Sex with underage people is wrong. So is joking about wanting to have sex with underage people. To use a much more severe example: there's nothing wrong with someone admitting that they have rape fantasies, but there is with joking about raping someone. Those jokes have a tone of at the worst approval, or at best of making light of something or normalising it. Which is why it obviously doesn't make a difference whether these jokes are made just between men.
@Hawk the only thing that should be gatekept is your mouth. I've tried both taking the piss and having serious discussions with you but you're not reacting well to either
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 09:37 PMso if it's relevant is whose decision
cause you're telling me
and correct me if i'm wrong
that 84 year old white man wasn't quicker on the trigger when he saw a black face
if you are saying that ... nah
If all you have is an assumption that something is relevant then don't put it in. Its dangerous shit stirring.
Quoteyou're not reacting well to either
yes ma'am
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 21, 2023, 09:43 PMIf all you have is an assumption that something is relevant then don't put it in. Its dangerous shit stirring.
it's a safe assumption but we're not going to agree but i don't want to leave it hanging disrespectfully like an incel's ding dong
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 10:15 PMit's a safe assumption but we're not going to agree but i don't want to leave it hanging disrespectfully like an incel's ding dong
I'll buy you a pint at QPR next season mate don't worry.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 21, 2023, 10:50 PMI'll buy you a pint at QPR next season mate don't worry.
you know i don't drink you cheap cunt
Canadian professor convicted in absentia of 1980 Paris synagogue bombing (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/21/canadian-professor-convicted-in-absentia-of-1980-paris-synagogue-bombing)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 10:10 PMyes ma'am
what is that even supposed to mean
I'm just trying to say you have many good qualities and I hope you know I appreciate that, but it's mixed with a bunch of erratic behaviour and I can say something about that either wrapped in a joke or in earnest but I lose patience if you just start sulking every time I do so
I didn't realize what I missed the most about MB was arguments between Marie and Hawk.
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Quote from: SGR on Apr 22, 2023, 01:20 AMI didn't realize what I missed the most about MB was arguments between Marie and Hawk.
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what do we have to argue about?
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 22, 2023, 01:37 AMwhat do we have to argue about?
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Quote from: jadis on Apr 21, 2023, 02:44 PMThere are many assumptions behind this I don't follow. What moral imperative underlies this "ok"? Never ever admitting that you find a 17 yo attractive?
If a joke is between two fellas with no one else in the vicinity, should they still need to wash their mouths with soap? If she's a cheerleader but above the age of consent?
she said never okay!
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 21, 2023, 08:47 PMwell getting a fine for identifying a fact might not be the iron fist of stalin but i don't like it -
people here thinking 84 year old white man shooting that 16 year old black kid probably isn't racial -
i'm not saying it's the only factor but it totally is one factor
of that was something npr could get fined for that would be nuts
so it only applies when the criminal is black
like the black guy shooting the white kid chasing his basketball
probably not racial but it might be
no regulatory committee should be able to decide that
if they police themselves unfairly against blacks or whites (like they do when the cops kill white people by underreporting i don't like it but they do their job how they do it - i don't have to like it)
my point was not that its not racial. He might have very well had racial motives. If the media uncovers anything to demonstrate that then that's fair. But to just say the race is relevant because the shooter is white and the victim is black is idiotic.
QuoteBut to just say the race is relevant because the shooter is white and the victim is black is idiotic.
i'm smart
It might be implying racism (to the point of murder) on part of the old man which might not even be true.
If it's clear that the killing was racially motivated, then that becomes relevant information. But even so, I think one should exercise some care with what you put in a title.
Quotemight not even be true
smgdh
Quote from: SGR on Apr 22, 2023, 01:20 AMI didn't realize what I missed the most about MB was arguments between Marie and Hawk.
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really? I used to playfully argue with him for fun but this stuff is barely an argument and it's mostly just annoying
Moscow struggling with narrative to justify war as Wagner chief questions 'Nazis' claim, says UK
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/apr/22/russia-ukraine-war-live-pentagon-leaks-suspect-was-reportedly-posting-months-earlier-than-thought?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-64437db88f086890899d7a1b#block-64437db88f086890899d7a1b)
If Russia is to have any future it must shed WW2 victory as its unifying myth. Domestically it's a completely sinister ethno-nationalist myth about Russian superiority. What's funny is that for decades it was used to recruit useful idiots to the communist cause abroad, what Francois Furet calls "the myth of anti-fascism": to be properly anti-fascist you have to join those who defeated them, who are naturally the polar opposite of everything fascism stands for.
What's even funnier is the myth's resurrection among bored and ignorant American kids who adopted "leftist" as an online identity, esp after 2016. It must make a lot of sense when your brain is hardwired by Star Wars and video games and other media for children. You would normally see a couple of losers wearing the Soviet flag shirts at various student protests in Montreal, where we have a long tradition of youthful radicalism, esp in Concordia and UdeM. But after 2016 it became a broader phenomenon, esp on Twitter.
Quote from: jadis on Apr 22, 2023, 01:09 PMMoscow struggling with narrative to justify war as Wagner chief questions 'Nazis' claim, says UK
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/apr/22/russia-ukraine-war-live-pentagon-leaks-suspect-was-reportedly-posting-months-earlier-than-thought?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-64437db88f086890899d7a1b#block-64437db88f086890899d7a1b)
If Russia is to have any future it must shed WW2 victory as its unifying myth. Domestically it's a completely sinister ethno-nationalist myth about Russian superiority. What's funny is that for decades it was used to recruit useful idiots to the communist cause abroad, what Francois Furet calls "the myth of anti-fascism": to be properly anti-fascist you have to join those who defeated them, who are naturally the polar opposite of everything fascism stands for.
What's even funnier is the myth's resurrection among bored and ignorant American kids who adopted "leftist" as an online identity, esp after 2016. It must make a lot of sense when your brain is hardwired by Star Wars and video games and other media for children. You would normally see a couple of losers wearing the Soviet flag shirts at various student protests in Montreal, where we have a long tradition of youthful radicalism, esp in Concordia and UdeM. But after 2016 it became a broader phenomenon, esp on Twitter.
one reason to admire stalin is because he beat hitler and another is that he killed millions of capitalists
both of those things are true but with asterisks
*he beat hitler with help
*he killed a lot of poor people
the only thing i really know about the war in ukraine is that it was a border crossing but besides that i don't know anything about ukraine - i do know it's europe and if europe cares about russian expansion they should deal with it - i'm against expansionist border crossing and humankind has done a good job making them taboo even in africa- however, in principle, i object to the united states arming anyone ever - i don't care if it's not even the same region sooner or later those weapons will be in the middle east
but back to the point, if tankies want to wave the hammer and sickle i'm cool with that because at least i know they hate capitalism and destroying capitalism is our only hope
if russia invaded scandinavia i'd 100% support american intervention on behalf of scandinavia, however
if russia invaded estonia i'd be like gosh england should do something
maybe it doesn't make sense
i actually think it's sort of like justifying glue traps - i care about this i don't care about that - i don't want those mice to suffer - i don't want ukraine annexed (is that using the word correctly?) by putin - but i'm not taking up personally for ukraine any more than those mice - the suddenly we really care about this country thing is nonsense
the last number i think i heard was $250 billion in weapons - i would much rather build free clinics and homeless shelters in america- not that they have to be exclusive
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 22, 2023, 12:59 PMreally? I used to playfully argue with him for fun but this stuff is barely an argument and it's mostly just annoying
I think I'm just bored :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 22, 2023, 02:42 PMI think I'm just bored :laughing:
I like it when Marie gets a bit fiesty 8)
https://apnews.com/article/d398d442537a595bf96d90be90862772
montana - it's supposed to be live and let live out there
i wonder if the republicans in this exchange understand that they will be universally looked on as villains in the future and just don't care because they'll be dead or if they really think they're right
the republican that stands and says "we will not be shamed like this" is it because she knows she's shameful
idk
and when they intentionally misgender her it reminds me of calling a jew christ killer
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 22, 2023, 02:03 PMone reason to admire stalin is because he beat hitler and another is that he killed millions of capitalists
both of those things are true but with asterisks
*he beat hitler with help
*he killed a lot of poor people
the only thing i really know about the war in ukraine is that it was a border crossing but besides that i don't know anything about ukraine - i do know it's europe and if europe cares about russian expansion they should deal with it - i'm against expansionist border crossing and humankind has done a good job making them taboo even in africa- however, in principle, i object to the united states arming anyone ever - i don't care if it's not even the same region sooner or later those weapons will be in the middle east
but back to the point, if tankies want to wave the hammer and sickle i'm cool with that because at least i know they hate capitalism and destroying capitalism is our only hope
if russia invaded scandinavia i'd 100% support american intervention on behalf of scandinavia, however
if russia invaded estonia i'd be like gosh england should do something
maybe it doesn't make sense
i actually think it's sort of like justifying glue traps - i care about this i don't care about that - i don't want those mice to suffer - i don't want ukraine annexed (is that using the word correctly?) by putin - but i'm not taking up personally for ukraine any more than those mice - the suddenly we really care about this country thing is nonsense
the last number i think i heard was $250 billion in weapons - i would much rather build free clinics and homeless shelters in america- not that they have to be exclusive
If there's one thing we can learn from Stalin's record is that the reality of mass murder cannot be confined to distinctions based on economic theory or even on rungs on the societal ladder. The logic behind the purges and population transfers was "to build communism and engineer a classless society we need to cleanse society of X" and that X kept shifting between demographic groups (or soslovya as they were called in Czarist Russia). The category of the "enemy of the people" just kept expanding in all directions until everyone was suspect. In the last few years of his life Stalin finally decided to cleanse society of the "rootless cosmopolitans" and the "Zionists", and thanks heavens he died before he could implement it (the "doctors plot" was a prelude). Jews didn't catch many lucky breaks during the 20th century but that was one.
The idea that you can isolate a "class enemy" from hate based on other characteristics already ingrained in a given society is a fantasy.
Fan who stabbed world No1 Monica Seles in back on court dies aged 68 (https://www.thesun.ie/sport/10586028/monica-seles-stabbed-gunter-parche-dead/)
i put a damn asterisk beside it
good history stuff though - i've read a fair amount on the ol codger but i basically just remember he was mean
new subject
https://apnews.com/article/93c1d847f2188571ce70285d0ac55406
QuoteA white former police officer convicted of manslaughter after mistaking her handgun for a Taser and fatally shooting Black motorist Daunte Wright in suburban Minneapolis in 2021 is set to be released from prison Monday.
so if i mistake my revolver for a taser and "accidentally" kill a cop will i also have to spend an entire year in prison
i watched that video a bunch of times and i really do believe it was a mistake but she had no business tazing him either -
nice journalism pointing out the race of those involved but miss me with capitalizing black but not white
that is some wildly anti-white racism
it's white journalists who decided on that - it's a kind of white power arrogance to think it's ok to present whites as lesser because these poor ol coloreds will never rise up and distribute some hard comeuppance - whitey is untouchable, don't you know
almost all of those same journalists live completely locked away from poor blacks though
they might come into the hood - with a full posse of protection and after the police get there
cowardly racist classist fascist honkeys want to tell me black is a real culture but white isn't
my southern white trash culture is real and unless you wanna find out the hard way you better recognize
Re: Capitalising one and not the other, I've noticed that as well.
@jadis absolutely mental news story. I feel so sorry for Seles.
i remember when that stabbing happened
i was on a road trip in a car with just a radio and i must've heard that scream 15 times at least
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 22, 2023, 03:16 PMI like it when Marie gets a bit fiesty 8)
me too but I'm not even being feisty :(
Maybe I should embrace my bantering side again since the Hawk doesn't appreciate my attempts to be serious
No, you're doing a great impression of an old catholic school marm. Keep it up.
Let's keep the personal insults out of it, guys.
Keep it friendly.
Lmao @ hawk drawing the line at them capitilizing Black but not white.
It's very simple. They go with the race narrative when the shooter is white because that drives more engagement. Nobody is shocked when a young black man kills another young black man so in those cases it need not be mentioned. But if you can find even the potential for a racial narrative than what would have been a local tragedy can potentially turn into a national conversation. And that is what the press would do with any story if they can.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 22, 2023, 07:40 PMLet's keep the personal insults out of it, guys.
Keep it friendly.
i didn't mean that as an overly harsh insult lol. She just very much has the air of a humorless disciplinarian when she addresses OH in posts like this:
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 21, 2023, 12:51 AMok, you know I'm not ok with you being called a pedo, but you have no right to whine about people on MB calling you out when you make sexual jokes about underage girls. It's gross. This is what annoys me about your attitude towards MB: sure you have some grounds to complain about MB, but the way you do it is unreasonable, immature and gets in the way of acknowledging the problems with your own behaviour
As if he hasn't reformed his behavior on here more drastically than anyone else. But if he deviates slightly and makes a (tame) off color joke, it's time to break out the old ruler and make him repent.
Yeah it's probably not a terrible thing to say, but for all you know, Marie may have had to have gone back in time, shoot a schoolmarm to stop her growing up and eventually being the great-great-great-grandmother to Hitler or Trump or someone, and may still have terrifying flashbacks, so the word "schoolmarm" could be a trigger to her.
Or (and this is, I admit, less likely than my very plausible guess above), she just may not like it. Best to, as I say, keep it friendly.
She might always go back in time and kill your grandfather and then - hello? Hello? Anyone there?
Who was I talking to again?
That was me keeping it friendly.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 22, 2023, 07:54 PMLmao @ hawk drawing the line at them capitilizing Black but not white.
It's very simple. They go with the race narrative when the shooter is white because that drives more engagement. Nobody is shocked when a young black man kills another young black man so in those cases it need not be mentioned. But if you can find even the potential for a racial narrative than what would have been a local tragedy can potentially turn into a national conversation. And that is what the press would do with any story if they can.
What about when a black man kills a white person? As you saw from the examples in this thread they don't go with the race narrative there. Why do you think that is?
I'm glad other people have noticed it because I've genuinely seen it for years.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 22, 2023, 08:03 PMAs if he hasn't reformed his behavior on here more drastically than anyone else. But if he deviates slightly and makes a (tame) off color joke, it's time to break out the old ruler and make him repent.
Yeah I don't like the way I sound either, but I actually switched to this instead of a more flippant tone mostly because Hawk didn't seem to like that. Still I think you have a distorted idea of me: it's really not some kind of disciplinary urge. I just feel obliged to speak up when I think something's wrong, but I can't really pull of doing it 'not cool, dude'-style (especially after a bunch of years of this)
@Trolls I appreciate it but I'm happy to say it's a trigger-free word for me
So you're saying that wasn't you I saw toting that shotgun near the little Spanish church back in 1804, when I went back in search of the ancestor of Zuckerburg? Never found him either, as it happens...
QuoteThe marketing executive who oversaw a partnership between Bud Light and a transgender influencer is taking a leave of absence after it snowballed into cries for boycotts from some angry customers, according to media reports.
:o
i have read that drinking bud light will shrink your ding dong 🤷�♂️
when i drank preferred beer over piss water but whatever
QuoteATLANTA (AP) — Koko Da Doll, an Atlanta woman who gained notice in a documentary about transgender Black women and the dangers they face, was shot to death in Atlanta this week, her sister said.
Kilya Williams and other relatives said police told them the 35-year-old transgender woman, also known as Rasheeda Williams, appears to have been shot Wednesday after leaving an apartment complex west of downtown Atlanta. Her body was found on a sidewalk adjoining a strip mall across a busy street.
probably a hate crime
i hate it even more when these things happen in my beloved home town
QuoteThe home of a Utah state senator was vandalized in possible retaliation for a bill to ban gender-affirming surgery for minors, police say.
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nice
let them know they can be touched
no way that doesn't scare him with his family living there
bash back
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 23, 2023, 05:37 PM:o
i have read that drinking bud light will shrink your ding dong 🤷�♂️
when i drank preferred beer over piss water but whatever
Time to resurrect a couple of classics...
Riverside County sheriff's deputies lose 60 pounds of methamphetamine (https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2023/04/20/riverside-sheriffs-deputies-lose-60-pounds-methamphetamine/70136368007/)QuoteDuring an undercover drug sting this week, Riverside County sheriff's deputies lost almost 60 pounds of methamphetamine when they couldn't catch up with the person they sold it to.
Labour suspends Diane Abbott in attempt to stifle fresh antisemitism row
(https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/23/diane-abbott-suspended-by-labour-after-saying-jewish-people-not-subject-to-racism)
The Corbyn wing of the UK's Labour party, or what remains of it anyway, are not the sharpest
Abbott is a disgrace and has been for a long time.
QuoteAbbott's letter said that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people "undoubtedly experience prejudice", but added: "This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable."
She obviously thinks this because she's of the 'black people can't be racist/you can't be racist to white people' mindset.
Tbh I think in this context it's the "Zionists" who are the real issue for her and others of her ilk. It was them who stabbed darling Jezza in the back and conspired against him.
The idea that there is a real prejudice against Jews that doesn't come with a comic moustache and black and white documentary footage is impossible for them to grasp. And that this prejudice is especially widespread among those who are fluent in anti-racist jargon and brandish Palestinian flags, well that's just a Zionist invention.
It's pretty astonishing how a man like Ken Livingstone got elected London mayor twice.
Like, how can this person hold public office in Britain? It's annoying enough when "the Holocaust was a white on white crime" comes from a supposedly harmless idiot like Whoopi Goldberg but c'mon
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Fair points and I get that by why include Irish and gypsies then?
Labour doing the right thing by suspending straight away. Hopefully she is gone permanently. People like her have done a lot of damage to the party.
QuoteFair points and I get that by why include Irish and gypsies then?
She was responding to a piece that mentioned all these groups as facing discrimination. But knowing the history of the Labour party since 2015, seems pretty obvious which group triggered her response. Jews, on her and co's worldview,
cannot be included among the victims of racism. They're the powerful ones. Even had the clout to topple Jezza etc.
Possibly but Abbott does have a history of anti white comments. I'd just say she hates all the whites.
I'm not familiar with that. I've read up a lot on the dynamics of antisemitism within the British left in general, esp during the 20th century. Can't say I'm familiar with Abbott's other work, so to speak.
Anti-white racism is something I genuinely haven't thought of at all. I would not mix it up with antisemitism though, cause the idea of race and racial perceptions is not the same as skin color. Prejudice against Jews is its own thing entirely.
Yeah she is known for it over here but yes I agree anti Jewish hate is a thing itself.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 22, 2023, 09:47 PMWhat about when a black man kills a white person? As you saw from the examples in this thread they don't go with the race narrative there. Why do you think that is?
I'm glad other people have noticed it because I've genuinely seen it for years.
i would say it's been noticed by quite a few people lol
The reason why it doesn't work in reverse is because the same implications aren't involved so it's just not as juicy of a story. It's basically assumed not to be racial and on the occasion that it does happen to be racial its still not considered a big deal because it's not systemic and not associated with the larger legacy of white supremacy.
Is she really comparing the discrimination of Jews to that of redheads? My mind is reeling
In America they probably faced similar levels of discrimination. And since then jews are doing much better than the Irish are in this country.
Obviously europe wasn't quite so kind to the jews but that's on you guys.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 24, 2023, 07:56 AMIn America they probably faced similar levels of discrimination. And since then jews are doing much better than the Irish are in this country.
Obviously europe wasn't quite so kind to the jews but that's on you guys.
Yeah one of the amazing things about her letter is that it takes the American conception of race, based on American reality, and applies it universally across history. Which, again, coming from an American and a professional airhead like Whoopy Goldberg is whatever.
But Abbott's been part of a political faction embroiled in the biggest antisemitism scandal in decades in the UK. Many of her peers and associates were literally expelled from the Labour party for either spouting antisemitic abuse or failing to act against it. And after all that to voluntarily write to a newspaper that anti-Jewish racism is not a thing is an interesting choice.
Spoke to daddy jazz. He said he's met Diane Abbott and that she is indeed a rancid cunt 8):checkmark:
https://www.nbcnews.com/media/don-lemon-says-fired-cnn-rcna78349
don lemon fired from cnn for saying women in their 50's aren't in their prime lol
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anyone who thinks the prime of life is in the fifties for men or women is lying to themselves
the truth about age really infuriates people
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 24, 2023, 07:00 PManyone who thinks the prime of life is in the fifties for men or women is lying to themselves
the truth about age really infuriates people
I know a guy in his late 50's who still thinks he's attractive to women in their early to mid 20's. He gets agitated whenever someone points out the fact that he's pushing 60, overweight, out of shape, and probably looks like an old man to any woman in that age range.
She's a presidential candidate. What's the average age of your presidents again?
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 24, 2023, 07:19 PMShe's a presidential candidate. What's the average age of your presidents again?
haven't been any women presidents
i know folks would like it if it were but it's not the same
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 24, 2023, 07:13 PMI know a guy in his late 50's who still thinks he's attractive to women in their early to mid 20's. He gets agitated whenever someone points out the fact that he's pushing 60, overweight, out of shape, and probably looks like an old man to any woman in that age range.
does he pull any 20-something snatch
On some things not all the truth needs to be spelled out all the time, that's a pretty basic principle that allows society to function.
This is one area where polite decorum actually makes sense. It makes no sense when talking about the Dianne Feinstein situation. But here yes, absolutely. A news anchor or whatever his role is should be beholden to some standard of civility.
Quote from: jadis on Apr 24, 2023, 07:37 PMOn some things not all the truth needs to be spelled out all the time, that's a pretty basic principle that allows society to function.
This is one area where polite decorum actually makes sense. It makes no sense when talking about the Dianne Feinstein situation. But here yes, absolutely. A news anchor or whatever his role is should be beholden to some standard of civility.
if he thinks a 50 something woman can't get the votes and it's his job to analyze candidates he would be remiss of his duty NOT to say it
this isn't a dinner party
the only thing he should be beholden to is complete honesty
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 24, 2023, 07:36 PMdoes he pull any 20-something snatch
Not any that I'm aware of since his college days when Ronald Reagan was still in the White House.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 24, 2023, 07:45 PMNot any that I'm aware of since his college days when Ronald Reagan was still in the White House.
that's probably why he's a bit cantankerous
Dunno, I think analyzing would involve, say, asking whether women face a different set of expectations than men (they do duh) and discussing how this projects on the "electability" of this or that candidate with such and such voter group vs other factors and dynamics that could be in play.
"A woman is not in her prime at 50, that's just the facts, don't shoot the messenger" is just a mess.
The one thing that's amusing about this exchange is how used he must be to make catty remarks about women's appearance off camera as only a mean gay guy can. Though unlike the vast majority of mean gays, he doesn't strike me as particularly funny.
But I respect the Occult Hawk ethos re social conventions!
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i think she's pretty hot tbh
the firing probably somehow relatee to tucker carlson
Wait that Don Lemon comment was about Tulsi? She looks great for 42.
Edit: Oops, nvm, it was about Nikki Haley - she looks great for her age too though
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 24, 2023, 04:35 PMSpoke to daddy jazz. He said he's met Diane Abbott and that she is indeed a rancid cunt 8):checkmark:
Is he a Labour member?
I liked this comment (from a Tory peer!) that it's important to try to be compassionate about she had to go through as a trailblazing black MP, while also firmly saying that enough is enough, because she doesn't care to extend that compassion to others
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 24, 2023, 07:44 PMif he thinks a 50 something woman can't get the votes and it's his job to analyze candidates he would be remiss of his duty NOT to say it
this isn't a dinner party
the only thing he should be beholden to is complete honesty
i don't think it's his job to rate her looks lol. You're being ultra autistic with your idea that the news is all about reporting any and every fact regardless of context.
I just watched the clip lol
So apparently this broad made a comment about certain politicians being basically senile and not cognitively all there, and suggested that once you're past a certain year you should be tested for your mental faculties. And he responded with oh yeah? Well you're not hot anymore so that's like the same thing!
@jadis no but he was friends with an MP in the 90s. Which was when/how he met Abbott.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 25, 2023, 01:13 AMi don't think it's his job to rate her looks lol. You're being ultra autistic with your idea that the news is all about reporting any and every fact regardless of context.
it's an absolute failure on cnn's part not to have full vaginal coverage on nikki haley
it is their journalistic duty to report all facts
is it shaved
when was the last penetration
when was the hymen broken
does it still bleed
they seriously need to keep the public informed
ALL the news without fear nor favor
Rapper Desiigner charged with indecent exposure for allegedly masturbating on flight (https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/rapper-desiigner-federally-charged-with-indecent-exposurerapper-desiigner-charged-with-indecent-exposure-for-allegedly-masturbating-on-flight/) :pimp:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 25, 2023, 02:04 AMRapper Desiigner charged with indecent exposure for allegedly masturbating on flight (https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/rapper-desiigner-federally-charged-with-indecent-exposurerapper-desiigner-charged-with-indecent-exposure-for-allegedly-masturbating-on-flight/) :pimp:
can't even crack on off these days
woke culture is madness
Filthy fucking bastard.
Googled her to see a pic for context. Yuck.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 25, 2023, 02:00 AMit's an absolute failure on cnn's part not to have full vaginal coverage on nikki haley
it is their journalistic duty to report all facts
is it shaved
when was the last penetration
when was the hymen broken
does it still bleed
they seriously need to keep the public informed
ALL the news without fear nor favor
Googled her to see a pic for context. Yuck. Don Lemon was right about one thing.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 25, 2023, 02:04 AMRapper Desiigner charged with indecent exposure for allegedly masturbating on flight (https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/rapper-desiigner-federally-charged-with-indecent-exposurerapper-desiigner-charged-with-indecent-exposure-for-allegedly-masturbating-on-flight/) :pimp:
if the flight wasnt to Epstein's island that's actually pretty tame for a celebrity of his stature.
58 bodies recovered from suspected cult site, Kenyan police say (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/24/africa/kenya-cult-starvation-deaths-intl/index.html)QuoteKenyan police have so far recovered 58 bodies from mass graves in a forest in eastern Kenya, thought to be followers of a Christian cult who believed they would go to heaven if they starved themselves.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 24, 2023, 09:22 PMi think she's pretty hot tbh
the firing probably somehow relatee to tucker carlson
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QuoteMontana Republicans persisted in forbidding Democratic transgender lawmaker Zooey Zephyr from participating in debate for a second week and her supporters brought the House session to a halt Monday — chanting "Let her speak!" from the gallery before they were escorted out.
Zephyr defiantly hoisted her microphone into the air as her supporters interrupted proceedings for nearly half an hour in protest of Republicans denying her requests to speak on a proposal that would restrict when children can change the names and pronouns they use in school and require parental consent.
The interruption — hours after supporters rallied on the Capitol steps — was the latest development in a standoff over Zephyr's remarks against lawmakers who support a ban on gender-affirming care for minors. Zephyr, a first-term Democrat from Missoula, hasn't spoken on the Statehouse floor since last Tuesday when she told Republican colleagues they would have "blood on their hands" if they banned gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth.
Law enforcement escorted Zephyr's supporters from the gallery above the House floor, including several by force. Seven were arrested for criminal trespass, the sheriff said. They were going to be booked and released.
The disruption drew the ire of Republican leaders, who described it as a "riot" and an "insurrection."
lol @ republican gaslighting
QuoteAlabama and Mississippi closed most government offices Monday for Confederate Memorial Day as efforts have stalled to abolish state holidays that honor the old Confederacy.
Legislation has been introduced in the ongoing Alabama legislative session to remove, alter or rename Confederate-related holidays, but the effort has so far gained little traction.
Camille Bennett, the founder of Project Say Something, an organization that has worked for the removal of Confederate monuments in Alabama, said the determination to keep Confederate holidays comes at the same time Alabama lawmakers push legislation banning so called " divisive concepts" from being taught in state classrooms and diversity training for state workers.
"On one side, you have white conservative men defining what divisive is and what it means. ... At the same time, you are honoring the Confederacy, which in itself is a divisive concept. It's really hypocritical, quite tone deaf," Bennett said.
happy confederate memorial day
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proud southern white trash right here yes sir
That flag is beautiful by the way.
Proper flag.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 25, 2023, 02:05 AMcan't even crack on off these days
woke culture is madness
You are Diogenes. Dawned on me now.
The philosopher who signaled his detachment from social norms and and conventional values by jacking it in public
The OG cynic
The only confederate flag flyer I respect
Quote from: jadis on Apr 25, 2023, 02:45 PMYou are Diogenes. Dawned on me now.
The philosopher who signaled his detachment from social norms and and conventional values by jacking it in public
The OG cynic
that's too much - i'm a fraud
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 25, 2023, 03:04 PMthat's too much - i'm a fraud
Frauds are people who build their entire self-image around institutional acceptance. Or at least those who dress themselves up as something they wish they were cause it's the prestigious thing to be.
You're not that. What I respect about you is that you appreciate that knowledge is an end in itself rather than something to wave in the face of others to show you're better than them. There are people in elite universities who will never get it, for whom knowledge is just a marker of social class.
Also, the guy lived in a tub, which is probably not that different from lodgings in rural Florida?
I respect Revolver because he has his own mind and is very fucking funny. Had me in tears once or twice.
Shit chilli though.
QuoteFrauds are people who build their entire self-image around institutional acceptance.
i always tell the truth, even when i lie
QuoteWhat I respect about you is that you appreciate that knowledge is an end in itself rather than something to wave in the face of others to show you're better than them. There are people in elite universities who will never get it,
well i used to regularly make statements about how i knew more about music than whoever i was talking to but i don't bother with that anymore - all genres collectively i'm damn hard to beat but like everyone i still have huge gaps in my knowledge so i'm done with that kind of flag waving until i change my mind
i still want to remain gentle
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 25, 2023, 03:33 PMI respect Revolver because he has his own mind and is very fucking funny. Had me in tears once or twice.
Shit chilli though.
i'm a good cook
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 25, 2023, 03:36 PMi'm a good cook
I suspect you are as you've told me details in the past which fit with this.
2/5 chilli though.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 25, 2023, 03:44 PMI suspect you are as you've told me details in the past which fit with this.
2/5 chilli though.
it would still be the best chili you ever had
Toy is a real joy.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 25, 2023, 03:33 PMI respect Revolver because he has his own mind and is very fucking funny. Had me in tears once or twice.
Shit chilli though.
lol
his monologue about Greek women that one time on discord is easily in the top 3 funniest things I've ever read on the internet
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 25, 2023, 08:46 PMlol
his monologue about Greek women that one time on discord is easily in the top 3 funniest things I've ever read on the internet
you sure it was me
i don't remember it
oh absolutely. you had a whole conversation with grindy and he had just been to Greece so you started reminiscing about Greek women, great stuff. If I remember correctly it featured the phrase 'hairy euro bitches' lol (edit: did a discord search and can confirm this now :laughing:)
So.. Is a hairy euro bitch a good thing? :laughing:
I assume we're talking France and further south.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 25, 2023, 10:39 PMoh absolutely. you had a whole conversation with grindy and he had just been to Greece so you started reminiscing about Greek women, great stuff. If I remember correctly it featured the phrase 'hairy euro bitches' lol (edit: did a discord search and can confirm this now :laughing:)
well if it's top three all time from the entire internet i'll take it
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 25, 2023, 11:09 PMSo.. Is a hairy euro bitch a good thing? :laughing:
I assume we're talking France and further south.
For some reason a lot of chippies in England are ran by Greek families. No idea why. They're good chippies as well.
Anyway, when I was a kid the one on the end of my road was ran by Greeks and one of the girls working in there had very hairy arms. She was actually beautiful but the arm hair was off putting. However now I'm older it wouldn't bother me and I actually respect her for not covering up and wearing short sleeves.
The guy who owned it used to give all the kids lollipops when waiting in the queue. I kept getting them until I was about 15.
Great days.
QuoteThe guy who owned it used to give all the kids lollipops when waiting in the queue.
:love:
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 25, 2023, 11:09 PMSo.. Is a hairy euro bitch a good thing? :laughing:
I assume we're talking France and further south.
of course it is
I knew a french Canadian who had very hairy arms. I think she had some hormonal problems and they were unsure if she could get pregnant, if I remember correctly.
She was gorgeous, though :love: very attractive and cute.
She made us poutine once. Now that's a trashy dish.
Hey now, since when is poutine a trashy dish?
Quote from: SGR on Apr 26, 2023, 06:37 AMHey now, since when is poutine a trashy dish?
Since the day someone invented it, I guess :)
Gravy and cheese on fries.. At least it's not haute cuisine.
I dunno, they make it sound pretty classy in that song "Poutine on the Ritz".
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 26, 2023, 01:23 PMI dunno, they make it sound pretty classy in that song "Poutine on the Ritz".
Very Trollheartesque. ;D
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 26, 2023, 01:34 PMVery Trollheartesque. ;D
Honored by the comparison! :)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/25/at-least-150-civilians-may-have-died-in-attack-on-burkina-faso-village-says-un
QuoteAt least 150 civilians may have died in attack on Burkina Faso village, says UN
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2291856/world
Quote10 civilians, 3 soldiers killed in Mali amid 'resurgence' of violence
i think these incidents are related but it's hard to get your questions answered in these articles
Quote from: SGR on Apr 26, 2023, 06:37 AMHey now, since when is poutine a trashy dish?
The idea of poutine is basically putting together the leftovers...
There are many ways to try make it fancy but its basic nature is unmistakable
Quote from: jadis on Apr 26, 2023, 03:01 PMThe idea of poutine is basically putting together the leftovers...
There are many ways to try make it fancy but its basic nature is unmistakable
Fair enough. I don't particularly like poutine anyway. There's never a time when I'd rather have that over just having the fries with ketchup.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 26, 2023, 05:04 PMFair enough. I don't particularly like poutine anyway. There's never a time when I'd rather have that over just having the fries with ketchup.
Where can you get poutine where you live?
In Quebec McDonald's has it as one of the fries options and tbh it's better than you'd expect
Quote from: jadis on Apr 26, 2023, 07:28 PMWhere can you get poutine where you live?
In Quebec McDonald's has it as one of the fries options and tbh it's better than you'd expect
Local diners mostly. Or I could visit my mother. Definitely not at McDonald's though.
How much does a Royale with Cheese cost in Quebec?
Another wanker in the news...
NYC community board meeting hijacked by masturbating 'hacker' (https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/nyc-community-board-meeting-hijacked-by-masturbating-hacker/)QuoteThe perverted display during the Community Board 13 Zoom meeting played out as a rep from Coney Island Health Center was talking about the high rate of sexually transmitted diseases.
During the STD discussion, a man pleasuring himself appeared in the upper left corner of the screen.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 27, 2023, 01:48 PMAnother wanker in the news...
NYC community board meeting hijacked by masturbating 'hacker' (https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/nyc-community-board-meeting-hijacked-by-masturbating-hacker/)
he was probably the only one there doing anything worthwhile
Another Kenyan pastor in the news...
Second pastor in Kenya accused of "mass killing of his followers" (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenya-second-pastor-accused-mass-killings-followers-ezekiel-odero/)
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 26, 2023, 11:38 AMSince the day someone invented it, I guess :)
Gravy and cheese on fries.. At least it's not haute cuisine.
It's very popular in Russia. Compulsory, in fact.
Fugees Rapper Pras Michel Found Guilty in $100M Political Conspiracy Case (https://people.com/music/fugees-rapper-pras-michel-guilty-political-conspiracy/)QuoteFugees rapper Pras Michel faces up to 20 years in prison after being found guilty of conspiring to help China influence the U.S. government.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 28, 2023, 02:12 PMFugees Rapper Pras Michel Found Guilty in $100M Political Conspiracy Case (https://people.com/music/fugees-rapper-pras-michel-guilty-political-conspiracy/)
the fugees can still do a reunion anniversary tour for the score without him but if you want the full cast vote for the hip hop pardoner in chief donald j trump
i had tickets and was going to road trip to atlanta but lauren changed her mind 🤷�♂️
IRS Hiring Gun-Carrying Agents in all 50 States (https://www.atr.org/irs-hiring-gun-carrying-agents-in-all-50-states/)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 28, 2023, 07:09 PMIRS Hiring Gun-Carrying Agents in all 50 States (https://www.atr.org/irs-hiring-gun-carrying-agents-in-all-50-states/)
Imagine a POC getting gunned down by IRS agents over a delinquent tax bill.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 28, 2023, 07:38 PMImagine a POC getting gunned down by IRS agents over a delinquent tax bill.
supposedly progressive people advocating the $80B budget increase for the irs so they "can go aftee rich people" are pretty funny
as if that helps without actually changing the tax code
gee, i wonder whose houses these armed irs bandits are going to be visiting 🤔
and it's not if working class poc will get murdered it's when- i'll post it in the tyre nichols thread and everyone will yawn
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 28, 2023, 07:51 PMsupposedly progressive people advocating the $80B budget increase for the irs so they "can go aftee rich people" are pretty funny
as if that helps without actually changing the tax code
gee, i wonder whose houses these armed irs bandits are going to be visiting 🤔
and it's not if working class poc will get murdered it's when- i'll post it in the tyre nichols thread and everyone will yawn
I keep telling people (like my more liberally inclined friends) that the IRS is the real enemy of the people and they just look at me like sheep. The IRS have to navigate a complicated tax code to go after the rich and that's too much trouble - they will always prioritize going after the poor and middle class no matter what the progressives say. I hate gun violence but you are gonna want to have your guns if the goons squads show up because you filled out one form wrong lol
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Apr 28, 2023, 10:10 PMI keep telling people (like my more liberally inclined friends) that the IRS is the real enemy of the people and they just look at me like sheep. The IRS have to navigate a complicated tax code to go after the rich and that's too much trouble - they will always prioritize going after the poor and middle class no matter what the progressives say. I hate gun violence but you are gonna want to have your guns if the goons squads show up because you filled out one form wrong lol
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QuoteA Texas man went next door with a rifle and began shooting his neighbors, killing an 8-year-old and four others inside the house, after the family asked him to stop firing rounds in his yard because they were trying to sleep, authorities said Saturday.
San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers said authorities were still searching for the 39-year-old suspect following the overnight shooting in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles (72 kilometers) north of Houston. He said the suspect, whom he did not identify, used an AR-style rifle in the shooting.
"Everyone that was shot was shot from the neck up, almost execution-style," Capers said during a news conference at the scene.
oh that's brutal
Quote"The Honduran ladies that were laying over these children were doing it in such an effort as to protect the child," according to Capers, who said a total of three blood-covered children were found in the home but were determined to be uninjured after being taken to a hospital.
i had a student whose mother was shot while shielding her like that
nobody died in that incident though - the girl missed a bunch of school after that
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 29, 2023, 05:51 PMoh that's brutal
I'm guessing the victims recently arrived in the US from Honduras?
Wonder if the killer is headed for the Mexican border?
QuoteI'm guessing the victims recently arrived in the US from Honduras?
idk but it's a pretty safe bet life dealt them a bad hand start to finish
really sad
Former San Francisco city official attacked homeless person with bear spray minutes prior to metal pipe attack, public defender says
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/27/us/san-francisco-city-official-homeless-pipe-attack-bear-spray
he finally picked the wrong one lol
nice work from the public defender
Do you think he'll be fired? Going out in a blaze of glory, up in smoke, bringing the house down?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 29, 2023, 10:36 PMDo you think he'll be fired? Going out in a blaze of glory, up in smoke, bringing the house down?
i think he's going to die in prison and learn what it means to suffer like the homeless he tortured with bear spray - they got his psycho ass on film - he probably bought it on amazon and now that it's going viral big time prosecutors are going to "smoke" his ass -
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 29, 2023, 06:09 PMI'm guessing the victims recently arrived in the US from Honduras?
Wonder if the killer is headed for the Mexican border?
police can't find the dude
QuoteRene Arevalo Sr., who lives a few houses down, said he heard gunshots around midnight but didn't think anything of it.
"It's a normal thing people do around here, especially on Fridays after work," Arevalo said. "They get home and start drinking in their backyards and shooting out there."
Capers said his deputies had been to Oropeza's home at least once before and spoken with him about "shooting his gun in the yard." It was not clear whether any action was taken at the time. At a news conference Saturday evening, the sheriff said firing a gun on your own property can be illegal, but he did not say whether Oropeza had previously broken the law.
idgaf if it's texas you can't go blasting an ar in your backyard unless you live on a 40 acre farm
https://apnews.com/article/a592c280d7ed0d91dc1c927618d54074
Warhol Portrait of OJ For Sale (i want it)
Long as OJ doesn't benefit from it.
Isn't it amazing how we practically worshipped OJ when he was playing?
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Apr 30, 2023, 05:55 PMLong as OJ doesn't benefit from it.
Isn't it amazing how we practically worshipped OJ when he was playing?
he never played for anyone i supported so not really, no
i think the separate civil suit should be considered double jeopardy- he was tried and found not guilty - that should be the end of it imo
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 30, 2023, 06:29 PMhe never played for anyone i supported so not really, no
i think the separate civil suit should be considered double jeopardy- he was tried and found not guilty - that should be the end of it imo
It's a good argument. I sometimes thought the same thing about the Federal Civil Rights violations law. Much of the whole thing gets political really.
But I'd like to think OJ is suffering his own personal hell from his actions. He will always be a pariah and no one will ever think about his glory days. That has to be tearing him apart.
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Apr 30, 2023, 07:06 PMIt's a good argument. I sometimes thought the same thing about the Federal Civil Rights violations law. Much of the whole thing gets political really.
But I'd like to think OJ is suffering his own personal hell from his actions. He will always be a pariah and no one will ever think about his glory days. That has to be tearing him apart.
he was driving around in oj's car and fucking oj's wife 🤷�♂️
Chomsky getting his ancient ass canceled for swanning around with Jeffrey Epstein lol https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/cia-director-noam-chomsky-epstein-calendar-1234726393/
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 30, 2023, 08:01 PMhe was driving around in oj's car and fucking oj's wife 🤷�♂️
Who was?
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 30, 2023, 04:15 PMpolice can't find the dude
Probably already across the southern border.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 01, 2023, 01:15 PMProbably already across the southern border.
maybe although it would be pretty hard to sneak across without a plan these days - as hard as sneaking in i figure
i bet he's in florida
presidential news
QuoteThings have gotten so bad for DeSantis that a recent Fox News poll shows him at 21% – comparable with the 19% that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has pushed debunked conspiracy theories about vaccine safety, is receiving on the Democratic side.
lol
it shows how desperate the democrats are more than anything else - rfk??? i'm not going to say he's worse than trump or desantis but he's more of a clown than any of them
he'd probably do damage comparable to trump with all his conspiratorial lunacy- he makes trump look like a genius
it's not just weird mishandling of a simple but difficult problem like covid it's that even with a million plus dead and the worst response i could imagine there's no concessions from anyone or acknowledgement that we need to learn from our mistakes
rfk lol and people say aoc is too far out there
people point to communism and say see it doesn't work but have they noticed that democracy also looks a lot better on paper
300 million people to choose from and at the top we got trump and biden and next up desantis and rfk
good grief -
Quote from: jadis on Apr 30, 2023, 11:45 PMChomsky getting his ancient ass canceled for swanning around with Jeffrey Epstein lol https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/cia-director-noam-chomsky-epstein-calendar-1234726393/
I didn't hear about this when it happened, but Chomsky actually praised Trump in the middle of last year for his plans/approach to ending the war in Ukraine - which is weird since previously Chomsky said he was worse than Hitler.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/05/01/noam_chomsky_says_trump_is_the_one_western_statesman_pushing_for_diplomacy_to_end_war_in_ukraine.html
Quote from: SGR on May 01, 2023, 02:47 PMI didn't hear about this when it happened, but Chomsky actually praised Trump in the middle of last year for his plans/approach to ending the war in Ukraine - which is weird since previously Chomsky said he was worse than Hitler.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/05/01/noam_chomsky_says_trump_is_the_one_western_statesman_pushing_for_diplomacy_to_end_war_in_ukraine.html
bad people do good things
THIS is gonna add fuel to the fire!
News Alert: Suspect in Texas massacre had been deported 4 times, ICE source says
The man wanted in the fatal shooting of five of his neighbors – including a 9-year-old – last week in Cleveland, Texas, entered the US illegally and had been removed by immigration officials at least four times, a source within US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.
The suspect, identified as Francisco Oropesa Perez-Torres by ICE, was first removed by an immigration judge in March 2009, the ICE source said.
How in the name of Donald Trump can you be deported FOUR times and STILL get back in?????
Quote from: Trollheart on May 01, 2023, 07:01 PMTHIS is gonna add fuel to the fire!
News Alert: Suspect in Texas massacre had been deported 4 times, ICE source says
The man wanted in the fatal shooting of five of his neighbors – including a 9-year-old – last week in Cleveland, Texas, entered the US illegally and had been removed by immigration officials at least four times, a source within US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.
The suspect, identified as Francisco Oropesa Perez-Torres by ICE, was first removed by an immigration judge in March 2009, the ICE source said.
How in the name of Donald Trump can you be deported FOUR times and STILL get back in?????
we ain't live all on a island, irishman
people get deported and comeback more times than that
i guess he does know how to get back to mexico
seeing as to how the media didn't see fit to tell us otherwise i figured this fella was white
now we can guess
i guess knowing what someone who's armed and dangerous looks like isn't newsworthy
Banana artwork worth $120K eaten by 'hungry' visitor at South Korea museum (https://nypost.com/2023/05/01/banana-artwork-worth-120k-eaten-at-leeum-museum-of-art/)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 02, 2023, 01:42 AMBanana artwork worth $120K eaten by 'hungry' visitor at South Korea museum (https://nypost.com/2023/05/01/banana-artwork-worth-120k-eaten-at-leeum-museum-of-art/)
I'm not sure which is more ridiculous. A banana taped to a wall being valued at $120k or someone pulling it off the wall and eating it.
Pretty funny but I'm guessing it was a performance art/publicity stunt.
Well somebody was obviously monkeying around. I'm not sure that aping art like that is acceptable really; if you're going to be an artist gorilla into it and don't make howlers like that. It's bananas, innit?
News Alert: Hollywood writers go on strike, bringing production on many television shows to a halt
More than 11,000 members of the Writers Guild of America are set to go on strike Tuesday morning for the first time since 2007, a move that could bring an immediate halt to the production of many television shows and possibly delay the start of new seasons of others later this year.
"Though we negotiated intent on making a fair deal ... the studios' responses to our proposals have been wholly insufficient, given the existential crisis writers are facing," said a statement from the union leadership.
"Existential crisis"?? What the hell are they talking about? I wonder does this affect the likes of Netflix, Amazon et al? If there is one important story in the news today, this is it. I may have to consider whether I want to continue living, if my favourite shows are stopped/delayed. I mean, what would be the point? ::)
Quote from: Trollheart on May 02, 2023, 01:16 PMNews Alert: Hollywood writers go on strike, bringing production on many television shows to a halt
More than 11,000 members of the Writers Guild of America are set to go on strike Tuesday morning for the first time since 2007, a move that could bring an immediate halt to the production of many television shows and possibly delay the start of new seasons of others later this year.
"Though we negotiated intent on making a fair deal ... the studios' responses to our proposals have been wholly insufficient, given the existential crisis writers are facing," said a statement from the union leadership.
"Existential crisis"?? What the hell are they talking about? I wonder does this affect the likes of Netflix, Amazon et al? If there is one important story in the news today, this is it. I may have to consider whether I want to continue living, if my favourite shows are stopped/delayed. I mean, what would be the point? ::)
Definitely won't affect me in any way. I think the last TV show that I watched regularly when it was still in production was 'Seinfeld' and that show ended in 1998.
Quote from: Trollheart on May 02, 2023, 01:16 PMNews Alert: Hollywood writers go on strike, bringing production on many television shows to a halt
More than 11,000 members of the Writers Guild of America are set to go on strike Tuesday morning for the first time since 2007, a move that could bring an immediate halt to the production of many television shows and possibly delay the start of new seasons of others later this year.
"Though we negotiated intent on making a fair deal ... the studios' responses to our proposals have been wholly insufficient, given the existential crisis writers are facing," said a statement from the union leadership.
"Existential crisis"?? What the hell are they talking about? I wonder does this affect the likes of Netflix, Amazon et al? If there is one important story in the news today, this is it. I may have to consider whether I want to continue living, if my favourite shows are stopped/delayed. I mean, what would be the point? ::)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 02, 2023, 01:29 PMDefinitely won't affect me in any way. I think the last TV show that I watched regularly when it was still in production was 'Seinfeld' and that show ended in 1998.
Somehow,I think I'll live
Man from Dildo discovers iceberg shaped like giant penis (https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/man-from-dildo-discovers-iceberg-shaped-like-giant-penis/) :pimp:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 02, 2023, 05:02 PMMan from Dildo discovers iceberg shaped like giant penis (https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/man-from-dildo-discovers-iceberg-shaped-like-giant-penis/) :pimp:
According to the story, it didn't even last five minutes. :laughing:
NYT - Vice Is Said to Be Headed for Bankruptcy (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/01/business/media/vice-bankruptcy.html)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 02, 2023, 05:06 PMNYT - Vice Is Said to Be Headed for Bankruptcy (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/01/business/media/vice-bankruptcy.html)
honestly lol
they couldn't leave well enough alone
they were doing fine but got sucked into the neo-liberal obsession with growth
unfortunately for them you can't out-greed texas billionaires
those good old boys down there are taking their new york asses down to the woodshed
they're gonna be a subdivision of newsmax by the time it's over
all they had to do was stay cool and stay in control of their assets
the article is painting it like they lost $5 billion but nah they were already balls deep in unpayable debt by that time
they ran some sensationalist yellow journalism anyway
i don't feel sorry for them at all they got too big for their britches and thought they could be big boy capitalists when they needed to be safe guarding their independence which was the cornerstone of their brand
they thought they were so smart - shit, if they hired me to run the place in 2016 they'd still be in control and doing something worthwhile instead of sell out bullshit
btw
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-secret-history-of-gavin-mcinnes
QuoteIn the '90s, he played punk rock and helped create Vice magazine. Five years ago, he founded a very different organization: the Proud Boys, the far-right group that came to personify the vilest tendencies of Trump's America. A former Vice editor interviews one of our era's most troubling extremists.
Sounds like their punk rock credentials dropped off the face of the Earth when that guy left lol
Nazi punks fuck off, I always say.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 02, 2023, 05:02 PMMan from Dildo discovers iceberg shaped like giant penis (https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/man-from-dildo-discovers-iceberg-shaped-like-giant-penis/) :pimp:
This is only the tip.
VICE did make some pretty interesting video documentary journalism from what I remember though.
They used to be good when they would just send some college kid over into an active african war and just cover that one conflict. My favorite episode of "this week in africa" was the one they did on liberia.
Once they changed their format to the HBO style where its a mish mesh of stories lumped together into a 30 minute broadcast, i stopped watching.
Quote from: Jwb on May 02, 2023, 09:10 PMThey used to be good when they would just send some college kid over into an active african war and just cover that one conflict. My favorite episode of "this week in africa" was the one they did on liberia.
Once they changed their format to the HBO style where its a mish mesh of stories lumped together into a 30 minute broadcast, i stopped watching.
Yeah it's the best thing they've done
I briefly had a roommate whose life goal was to work for them (Vice started out in Montreal so this was true of a lot of people I've hung out with). The most excitable stoner I've ever met and a huge hip hop head. He was super into the dark web and the first person who tried to explain the idea of crypto to me. We'd sit on the couch and smoke and watch Vice documentaries. Good times
Supposedly they paid a lot of those people next to nothing to go dodge bullets for content. Kinda does look like fun though.
Quote from: Jwb on May 02, 2023, 10:57 PMSupposedly they paid a lot of those people next to nothing to go dodge bullets for content. Kinda does look like fun though.
Yeah it was known for paying shit money but the cool factor was off the charts 10-15 years ago
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Second woman testifies in defamation and battery case against Donald Trump (https://abcnews.go.com/US/testimony-resumes-jean-carrolls-defamation-battery-case-trump/story?id=99011399)
QuoteDuring Tuesday's testimony, a businesswoman told jurors that Trump had groped her during a flight to New York in 1979, in what Carroll's attorneys said showed a pattern of behavior on Trump's part. Jessica Leeds is one of two women who the court has ruled are allowed to testify about prior alleged assaults by Trump.
Leeds, who first made her allegations to The New York Times just before the 2016 presidential election, testified that she was on a flight to New York when she was bumped up to first class from her coach seat and wound up next to Trump.
"When I got up there and sat down, the gentleman sitting by the window introduced himself as Donald Trump. We shook hands," Leeds, who was 37 at the time, testified. "What happened was, they served a meal. And it was cleared and we were sitting there, when all of a sudden Trump decided to kiss me and grope me."
She said there was no conversation -- "It was out of the blue."
Leeds described the alleged encounter "like a tussle," saying, "He was trying to kiss me. He was trying to pull me towards him. He was grabbing my breasts. It was like he had 40 million hands."
"It was when he started putting his hand up my skirt, that gave me a jolt of strength," testified Leeds, who said she freed herself and went "storming back to my seat in the back of coach."
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QuoteFirst came the good news. After taking classes at a community college, Ricki Korba was admitted to California State University, Bakersfield, as a transfer student. But when she logged on to her student account, she got a gut punch: Most of her previous classes wouldn't count.
The university rejected most of her science classes, she was told, because they were deemed less rigorous than those at Bakersfield — even though some used the same textbooks. Several other courses were rejected because Korba exceeded a cap on how many credits can be transferred.
Now Korba, a chemistry and music major, is retaking classes she already passed once. It will add a year to her studies, plus at least $20,000 in tuition and fees.
"It just feels like a waste of time," said Korba, 23, of Sonora, California. "I thought I was supposed to be going to a CSU and starting hard classes and doing a bunch of cool labs."
expensive 4 year state schools not accepting juco transfer credits even when they're from accredited schools - it's bullshit and should be illegal
these schools are getting more and more aggressive about ripping off students
if they don't accept the accreditation process they shouldn't be allow to renew their own accreditation
seriously, the are so hell bent on making sure every last single person ends up in debt
tike to burn more shit down young people
and by shit i don't just mean buildings
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lol @ the black cop there
i bet when he heard that not guilty verdict he nearly fainted
Looks like he had pals...
News Alert: Several arrests made after Texas massacre suspect found in closet
Several arrests have been made in connection with the capture of the man suspected of fatally shooting five people last week in a Texas home, and "others are hinging on what's going on right now," a sheriff's deputy said Wednesday.
In addition to accused gunman Francisco Oropesa, fewer than five others have been arrested, Chief Deputy Tim Kean of the San Jacinto County Sheriff's Office said. "But I can't go into the details."
A 38-year-old Mexican national, Oropesa was found Tuesday evening stowed under a pile of laundry in a closet just a few miles from the massacre site after a tip helped lead authorities to him, San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers said Tuesday.
Isn't the wording odd? "Fewer than five others"? How many were they expecting? I would have said "up to five others, At least five others" or "No fewer than five others." Just think that's an odd way of expressing it, considering they would have been expecting to have dealing with a single suspect.
This is nuts.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65468404
QuoteA teenager who killed eight fellow students and a security guard in a Serbian school planned the attack for weeks and had a "kill list", according to police.
The 13-year-old was arrested following Wednesday morning's attack at the Vladislav Ribnikar primary school in central Belgrade.
Another six pupils and a teacher were also injured in the shooting.
The motive for the attack is still being investigated, police said.
Officers in helmets and bulletproof vests cordoned off the area around the school, located in the central Vracar neighbourhood, shortly after 08:40 (06:40 GMT).
The suspect, named by police as Kosta Kecmanovic, is alleged to have used his father's guns, both of which had legal permits. He is also said to have gone to a shooting range more than once with his father before the killings.
The boy's mother and father have since been arrested.
In a televised address to the country, President Aleksandar Vucic described the attack as "the most difficult day in the modern history of our country".
He said the suspect would be sent to a psychiatric clinic. Under current Serbian law, he cannot be held criminally responsible as he is under 14.
So what will happen then? Will his parents have to do the time? 😧
I think your signature answers that one...
QuoteIn a televised address to the country, President Aleksandar Vucic described the attack as "the most difficult day in the modern history of our country".
i'd like to know his definition of modern because i remember serbia having some really fucking bad days
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 12:01 AMi'd like to know his definition of modern because i remember serbia having some really fucking bad days
I think he's talking about the time period since Serbia became independent.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/03/us/atlanta-midtown-shooting/index.html
QuoteManhunt underway for gunman who killed 1 and wounded 4 in Atlanta medical facility
the way i've been treated at clinics and hospitals the past couple years i no longer have any compassion for healthcare workers
they treat people like shit - they leave you in pain - put their asses on ibuprofen for their gunshot wounds and then they can get back to me on this opioid epidemic bullshit
Um, sorry, but what? Those wounded were all patients! I don't understand your comment. I wouldn't, if they had been doctors/nurses - they're all people too. Would you be as flippant with IRS employees? DMV? These people have families, loved ones. That's really cold and honestly pretty damn selfish.
everyday millions go without healthcare and i'm supposed to gaf about the "providers" miss me with that bullshit
No man that's bollocks. Because the system is broken they deserve to be shot down? Or deserve no sympathy if they are? And anyway as I said, these appear not to be staff, though I may have misread that. Whether they are or not, everyone deserves sympathy for being shot without provocation. Can't get behind you on that one, no way. You're gonna lump every person who works in any sort of medical facility or health care together and say they deserve it? Come on. Seriously.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 12:26 AMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/05/03/us/atlanta-midtown-shooting/index.html
the way i've been treated at clinics and hospitals the past couple years i no longer have any compassion for healthcare workers
they treat people like shit - they leave you in pain - put their asses on ibuprofen for their gunshot wounds and then they can get back to me on this opioid epidemic bullshit
i feel the same way about fast food employees and other so called essential workers
As for the hospital, sure they're garbage but you know who sucks? All the low level nurses and shit. The actual doctors are usually both very valueble and also very spread thin. We need a few more doctors and a few less ratchet ass nurses in my estimatation.
QuoteWhether they are or not, everyone deserves sympathy for being shot without provocation
there was provacation
he needed ativan and they wouldn't give it to them
a man needs help and the law is set up so these are the only people who can help but they refuse to
fuck them
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 04:06 AMthere was provacation
he needed ativan and they wouldn't give it to them
a man needs help and the law is set up so these are the only people who can help but they refuse to
fuck them
Wow.
Healthcare workers literally saved my life. And even if that were not the case, that is an extremely heartless thing to say about victims of violence. Being denied Ativan is not a justification for carnage. I would not try to justify a trans person shooting up a hospital for being denied hormones.
Now that's the OH I remember from MB :laughing:
they should be terrified to refuse care and treat people like shit and to leave people in psychological and physiological pain
Quotethe suspect was seeking new treatment after being dissatisfied with the care he was receiving from the Department of Veterans Affairs
pro tip to healthcare workers: provide care
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this isn't racism; it's holding your own to a moral standard and a man admitting it isn't easy but it is important to see the humanity in the other
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 07:37 AMpro tip to healthcare workers: provide care
Just so you know, assuming you're not trolling, which I don't think you are, you just lost a whole lot of respect from me. Anyone who can not only laugh at and accuse victims of gun violence as having "asked for it", but to encourage others to do the same is not someone I can ever respect. I actually feel sorry for you, that you have such a bleak view of the world. I understand I'm not an American and don't experience perhaps what you do, but there is no way I could ever condone anyone making those comments. Shameful, man. Absolutely bloody shameful.
Quote from: Trollheart on May 04, 2023, 01:08 PMJust so you know, assuming you're not trolling, which I don't think you are, you just lost a whole lot of respect from me. Anyone who can not only laugh at and accuse victims of gun violence as having "asked for it", but to encourage others to do the same is not someone I can ever respect. I actually feel sorry for you, that you have such a bleak view of the world. I understand I'm not an American and don't experience perhaps what you do, but there is no way I could ever condone anyone making those comments. Shameful, man. Absolutely bloody shameful.
i didn't say they asked for it nor did i encourage others to do the same
i'm saying you treat people like shit you get what you get
i'm also saying people in healthcare who refuse to actually provide care deserve to live in fear
you can take that however the fuck you want
if this crime was abusive to healthcare workers with direct violence it's something to think about before they continue abusing the american people by neglect
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 01:58 PMi didn't say they asked for it nor did i encourage others to do the same
i'm saying you treat people like shit you get what you get
i'm also saying people in healthcare who refuse to actually provide care deserve to live in fear
you can take that however the fuck you want
if this crime was abusive to healthcare workers with direct violence it's something to think about before they continue abusing the american people by neglect
Healthcare workers don't create the policies and they don't deserve to live in fear.
Quote from: Janszoon on May 04, 2023, 03:38 PMHealthcare workers don't create the policies and they don't deserve to live in fear.
mds and nurse practitioners have the legal authority to prescribe ativan whatever their workplace policy is
the culture in healthcare right now is to dismiss people's complaints about psychological and physiological pain as fraudulent by default and not just four or five people suffer because of it millions do
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 04:01 PMmds and nurse practitioners have the legal authority to prescribe ativan whatever their workplace policy is
I'm not an expert on who can do what under what circumstances and I'm sure you aren't either, but you didn't say "MDs and nurse practitioners" before. You just said "healthcare workers", which includes a wide variety of people, most of them not MDs or nurse practitioners.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 04:01 PMthe culture in healthcare right now is to dismiss people's complaints about psychological and physiological pain as fraudulent by default and not just four or five people suffer because of it millions do
Murdering and/or terrorizing people is not the way to fix problems in our healthcare system.
QuoteMurdering and/or terrorizing people is not the way to fix problems in our healthcare system.
how many peaceful strategies should be exhausted before folks just give up and say this just can't be fixed no way no how because all i've seen is movement in the wrong direction my entire life
I'm going to ask you to refrain from pursuing this line of discussion, as it's definitely bordering on inciting violence, which is not something we allow. Take that as you like, just cut it out please. You're offending people here and quite frankly making yourself look like a total nutjob. Do yourself and everyone a favour and move on.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 06:42 PMhow many peaceful strategies should be exhausted before folks just give up and say this just can't be fixed no way no how because all i've seen is movement in the wrong direction my entire life
Well, you know the old saying two wrongs don't make a right.
I have a lot of respect for our healthcare workers. They were on the frontlines during covid, putting themselves at risk, getting overworked, have to deal with that suffering as well as just randos from the general public which may or may not be dangerous assholes. And all for relatively little compensation. I think they deserve more.
Now, I won't make claims about healthcare workers in the US, but I have to agree that your comments against them seem too violent for one thing and like you're anyways misplacing blame and responsibility to a huge extent.
Quote from: Trollheart on May 04, 2023, 07:34 PMI'm going to ask you to refrain from pursuing this line of discussion, as it's definitely bordering on inciting violence, which is not something we allow. Take that as you like, just cut it out please. You're offending people here and quite frankly making yourself look like a total nutjob. Do yourself and everyone a favour and move on.
it's your house, boss man
QuoteA gunman apparently firing at random killed eight people and wounded 14 in a series of villages in Serbia, authorities said, shaking a nation still in the throes of grief over a mass shooting a day earlier. Police arrested a suspect Friday after an all-night manhunt.
congratulations serbia!
keep this up and you'll qualify for the world cup
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 04, 2023, 07:37 AMpro tip to healthcare workers: provide care
The VA can't give out Ativan sometimes even when they want to. They do provide care though but just different rules for pill prescriptions. If someone wants Ativan, they would need to be given the pills from an outside doctor and then after that get them from the VA. I have needed Ativan or any benzo pills for a long time now because I actually do need them in everyday life. I recently was at the dental part of VA and they saw I was having anxiety from the drilling and normal dental stuff and they actually gave me a 1mg pill for each time I get a filling done. So they do give them out sometimes but are just very strict about who gets them. Pain pills from the VA? no chance. You'll get 800mg of Motrin pills and that's all. Being from an infantry MOS in the marine corps I have had more VA experience than others and I just learned how they operate from back when I was on active duty with back pain to all the times as a veteran. It was always a joke with Navy corpsmen and marines, at least in my unit, that if you were in pain; change your socks and take 800mg of Motrin lol Not really lol though because 800mg Motrin doesnt do shit.
I still to this day, with anxiety daily, I cannot get any benzo pills that would help because they just haven't seen a reason good enough. Having anxiety isn't enough to get the pills, they need to really really think you deserve them. Like for teeth fillings from dental and even then, it's just one pill per dental visit. So like my most recent month I was given a small dose of Ativan for just my 2 appointments. Thinking you'll be able to get a controlled substance from the VA is wild, so that dude who shot those people was way wrong for thinking the VA would give them to him. There is no reason to harm people if they don't give you the pills you want. It's not that the VA doesnt want to give you the medication you need it boils down to them not being allowed to since it goes through many people at the VA to finally get a controlled substance. My psych doctor wanted to give me anxiety pills way back but was only allowed to give me an off-brand Benadryl. BUT, from my understanding, IF you were given a controlled substance as a benzo from a non-VA doctor or something; then the VA would have zero problems giving you them refilled. It just comes to if something went wrong, like an addiction or something, that since they were from a non-VA doctor then the blame doesn't fall onto them at the VA.
preciate the lengthy reply with real life experience
i'm not going to give anymore opinions on the matter until trolls takes me off probation
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/05/us/fanta-bility-death-officers-sentencing/index.html
3 Pennsylvania officers sentenced to probation in the fatal shooting of 8-year-old Fanta Bility
🤔 i wonder what would be a fair punishment if someone murdered their children
probation?
fucking piece of shit pigs
Tennessee hotel guest wakes up to night manager sucking on his toes (https://nypost.com/2023/05/05/tennessee-hotel-guest-wakes-up-to-night-manager-sucking-on-his-toes-police/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 06, 2023, 02:29 PMTennessee hotel guest wakes up to night manager sucking on his toes (https://nypost.com/2023/05/05/tennessee-hotel-guest-wakes-up-to-night-manager-sucking-on-his-toes-police/)
"We had to fire our last night manager because he sucked."
Yeah, you have to be careful there. Give them a toe, they'll take a foot, and the next thing you know you don't have a leg to stand on.
We can all breathe a bit more easily now.
News Alert: WHO says Covid-19 is no longer a global health emergency
Covid-19 is no longer a global health emergency, the World Health Organization said on Friday.
WHO's International Health Regulations Emergency Committee discussed the pandemic on Thursday at its 15th meeting on Covid-19, and WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus concurred that the public health emergency of international concern, or PHEIC, declaration should end.
"For more than a year the pandemic has been on a downward trend," Tedros said at a news conference Friday.
"This trend has allowed most countries to return to life as we knew it before Covid-19," Tedros said. "Yesterday, the emergency committee met for the 15th time and recommended to me that I declare an end to the public health emergency of international concern. I have accepted that advice."
Quote from: Trollheart on May 06, 2023, 03:26 PMYeah, you have to be careful there. Give them a toe, they'll take a foot, and the next thing you know you don't have a leg to stand on.
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Wrong body part mate.
Nuh-uh. Toe then foot then leg, is how it goes. :laughing:
Quote from: Janszoon on May 06, 2023, 02:36 PM"We had to fire our last night manager because he sucked."
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i hate how they act like it's so much more tragic than when anyone else dies
https://nypost.com/2023/05/07/richard-dreyfuss-slams-oscars-new-diversity-standards/
Jaws' star Richard Dreyfuss slams new Oscars diversity rulesQuoteThe categories, each pertaining to different aspects of a movie's production, would require new diversity measures to be met through "On-screen Representation," "Creative Leadership and Project Team," "Industry Access and Opportunities," and "Audience Advancement."
"On-screen Representation" is classified as at least one lead character from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group, having at least 30 percent of secondary roles be from two underrepresented groups or the main storyline has to focus on an underrepresented group.
According to the Academy, underrepresented groups include women, people of color, people who identify as LGBTQ+ or people with disabilities, and the new standards are meant to encourage diversity on and off the screen.
lol
idgaf it's their award but it's corny af when you see people in films or tv and especially commercials who are obviously the token this or that
they dug themselves a hole ignoring minorities for decades and now their digging a new hole trying to exume and resurrect the ones they killed
related: i used to take a good review from the nytimes very seriously but i now i think mostly what they're looking for is how well it represents a certain minority which is about as appealing as a middle school teacher choosing a book for it's positive message
7 dead after car runs into pedestrians in Brownsville, Texas (https://abcnews.go.com/US/7-dead-after-car-runs-pedestrians-brownsville-texas/story?id=99152817)
Not a good weekend to be in Texas.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 07, 2023, 06:38 PMhttps://nypost.com/2023/05/07/richard-dreyfuss-slams-oscars-new-diversity-standards/
Jaws' star Richard Dreyfuss slams new Oscars diversity rules
lol
idgaf it's their award but it's corny af when you see people in films or tv and especially commercials who are obviously the token this or that
they dug themselves a hole ignoring minorities for decades and now their digging a new hole trying to exume and resurrect the ones they killed
related: i used to take a good review from the nytimes very seriously but i now i think mostly what they're looking for is how well it represents a certain minority which is about as appealing as a middle school teacher choosing a book for it's positive message
Tbh it's just one symptom of the film industry being a design by committee corporate shitshow these days. It's all about focus groups, HR regulations, quotas, the shareholders' bottom line etc etc. "A committee of creatives" lol
In some senses worse than what Tarkovsky had to deal with under the Soviets
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 07, 2023, 07:18 PM7 dead after car runs into pedestrians in Brownsville, Texas (https://abcnews.go.com/US/7-dead-after-car-runs-pedestrians-brownsville-texas/story?id=99152817)
Not a good weekend to be in Texas.
7 dead doesn't sound like an accident either.
I know American cars are big but you don't accidently kill 7 people by mounting the pavement or whatever.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 07, 2023, 08:29 PM7 dead doesn't sound like an accident either.
I know American cars are big but you don't accidently kill 7 people by mounting the pavement or whatever.
Are they? Everyone I know drives Japanese, though I've only been once or twice to whatever lies between NYC and Portland
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 07, 2023, 08:29 PM7 dead doesn't sound like an accident either.
I know American cars are big but you don't accidently kill 7 people by mounting the pavement or whatever.
i was an anti-migrant racist hate crime
Quote from: jadis on May 07, 2023, 08:37 PMAre they? Everyone I know drives Japanese, though I've only been once or twice to whatever lies between NYC and Portland
They seem to be a lot bigger than ours.
I'm sure they are.
We have some of the same manufacturers over here but they're tiny compared to the models sold in the USA. We get Fiestas they get Rangers.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 07, 2023, 09:08 PMThey seem to be a lot bigger than ours.
I'm sure they are.
We have some of the same manufacturers over here but they're tiny compared to the models sold in the USA. We get Fiestas they get Rangers.
I don't know anything about cars tbh but it seems that in the cities you're more likely to see normal-sized Japanese cars. While in the suburbs the soccer moms drive SUVs the size of a monster truck
Quote from: jadis on May 07, 2023, 09:21 PMI don't know anything about cars tbh but it seems that in the cities you're more likely to see normal-sized Japanese cars. While in the suburbs the soccer moms drive SUVs the size of a monster truck
Yeah could be that tbf. Might just be my perception.
Yep, how you use your car, street sizes, trip length and status all play a part what car people choose.
In support of jimmy jazz, let's not forget that the UK is the home of one of the smallest mass-produced cars ever. Here's one doing a three-point turn on a footpath, lol:-
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americans love huge ass trucks and suvs
nowhere in europe or asia are there so many people per capita in oversized vehicles
i don't even have to look it up to know that's an indisputable fact
i can't believe there's even the tiniest pushback on that
we're the fattest cunts on earth as well
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 08, 2023, 12:51 AMamericans love huge ass trucks and suvs
nowhere in europe or asia are there so many people per capita in oversized vehicles
i don't even have to look it up to know that's an indisputable fact
i can't believe there's even the tiniest pushback on that
we're the fattest cunts on earth as well
Yeah that is all true
What I meant is that Americans are no longer driving those iconic old school sedans. My dad was fascinated with them when we immigrated to Canada but Japanese exports were all the rage (before he found out the hard way that Montreal is too cold for cars)
Quote from: jadis on May 08, 2023, 01:51 AMYeah that is all true
What I meant is that Americans are no longer driving those iconic old school sedans. My dad was fascinated with them when we immigrated to Canada but Japanese exports were all the rage (before he found out the hard way that Montreal is too cold for cars)
even with plug ins and heaters i don't get how the hell they keep diesels running up there
Quote from: Lisnaholic on May 08, 2023, 12:26 AMYep, how you use your car, street sizes, trip length and status all play a part what car people choose.
In support of jimmy jazz, let's not forget that the UK is the home of one of the smallest mass-produced cars ever. Here's one doing a three-point turn on a footpath, lol:-
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The Mini is an iconic car. Made in Brum 8)💪
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 08, 2023, 01:56 AMeven with plug ins and heaters i don't get how the hell they keep diesels running up there
I wouldn't know. I love the metro and the buses myself
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 08, 2023, 12:51 AMamericans love huge ass trucks and suvs
nowhere in europe or asia are there so many people per capita in oversized vehicles
i don't even have to look it up to know that's an indisputable fact
i can't believe there's even the tiniest pushback on that
we're the fattest cunts on earth as well
100%.
There are reasons why these oversized vehicles are so popular in America. Granted, they're not good reasons (e.g. manufacturers avoiding regulations by the vehicle's classification = more profit). But for those interested, this video is a really great run down on the topic:
Man rescued from woods after sex game goes awry (https://apnews.com/article/germany-sex-bondage-tied-up-woods-67e336bfce654bdaee8f45ed7ac91a9a) :pimp:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 07, 2023, 08:47 PMi was an anti-migrant racist hate crime
I read that the driver was identified as a "Hispanic male" so it seems more likely to be a result of driving under the influence of alcohol or some other substance or combination of substances.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 08, 2023, 05:47 PMI read that the driver was identified as a "Hispanic male" so it seems more likely to be a result of driving under the influence of alcohol or some other substance or combination of substances.
maybe but a lot of hispanics hate immigrants
a lot of people who did the process legally hate illegals
but i don't know his motive or if it was an accident or what but lots of people hate their own
Quote from: SGR on May 08, 2023, 04:27 AM100%.
There are reasons why these oversized vehicles are so popular in America. Granted, they're not good reasons (e.g. manufacturers avoiding regulations by the vehicle's classification = more profit). But for those interested, this video is a really great run down on the topic:
This was an eye opener.
I know a soccer mom with one of these big SUV cars. Shall I tell her she's a cunt?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 08, 2023, 11:21 PMThis was an eye opener.
I know a soccer mom with one of these big SUV cars. Shall I tell her she's a cunt?
Absolutely.
I know plenty of guys I work with (and am friendly enough with to joke around with them) that have them - and I always joke around with them when the moment is opportune that the SUVs they drive are for 'soccer moms'. It's lighthearted enough to not be truly insulting but just true enough to make them self-conscious about it.
America has an identity which lends itself to devaluing or even
stigmatizing the value and worth of social stigma and ostracism. The 'fuck what you think, I'll do what I want' attitude - but I think it still has its place. Corporations don't care beyond making a profit (which sometimes involves following laws and regulations). But if we as a society decide something is bad, mockery/stigma isn't a bad recourse.
I only watched the video about half way through and I was half asleep but is there an element of these SUVs being the most practical choice on the market? It's all well and good shaming people for driving them but if they can't afford a smaller vehicle or it isn't available then I dunno.
I will call her a cunt next time I speak to her anyway just to be safe.
the private automobile is an unsustainable disaster so to me it's like the rapists pointing at the murderers
whatever you drive you're a selfish cunt
same with sober drivers getting all judgmental on drunk drivers
sure driving drunk is more dangerous but driving sober is also dangerous as fuck
but people who drive small energy efficient economical cars and follow all the safety laws absolutely refuse to accept that they too are a big part of the problem and only slightly better compared to a drunk in a pick up especially when compared to a cyclist or pedestrian
You drive an SUV then?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 09, 2023, 01:03 AMYou drive an SUV then?
fuck no but i don't judge people who do
i know my little beater is also part of the problem
if i want to find the cunt all i need is a mirror
tbh when i see people in electric vehicles i want to beat the shit out them just because fuck them
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 01:08 AMif i want to find the cunt all i need is a mirror
:laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 01:09 AMtbh when i see people in electric vehicles i want to beat the shit out them just because fuck them
lol why?
Quote from: SGR on May 09, 2023, 02:18 AMlol why?
i already said why
because fuck them
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 01:09 AMtbh when i see people in electric vehicles i want to beat the shit out them just because fuck them
AOC owns a Tesla.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 09, 2023, 12:21 PMAOC owns a Tesla.
then she definitely needs a bare ass spanking
QuoteThe shooter who killed eight people at a Dallas-area mall was wearing a patch that read "RWDS" — short for "Right Wing Death Squad" — a phrase that has been embraced in recent years by far-right extremists who glorify violence against their political enemies.
Authorities have not said what they believe might have motivated 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, who was killed by a police officer who happened to be near the mall Saturday when Garcia opened fire.
far out
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 12:52 PMthen she definitely needs a bare ass spanking
(https://i.postimg.cc/mkZ0C7pj/EML3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Widow who wrote grief book for children after husband died charged with his murder (https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/grief-book-author-kouri-richins-accused-of-murdering-husband/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 09, 2023, 03:36 PMWidow who wrote grief book for children after husband died charged with his murder (https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/grief-book-author-kouri-richins-accused-of-murdering-husband/)
i saw that lol
did she really think they were going to miss the fentanyl in his autopsy?
the timeline also seems weird
either she wrote that book quickly or the autopsy was really slow
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 04:46 PMi saw that lol
did she really think they were going to miss the fentanyl in his autopsy?
the timeline also seems weird
either she wrote that book quickly or the autopsy was really slow
The cover of the book even has a cartoon character of what appears to be her deceased husband as an angel looking down and smiling from some clouds...
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Evil woman. She got him with "some of the Michael Jackson stuff," apparently.
^Wow, that's a fascinating bit of true crime. Maybe she got some perverted joy out of writing it?
Also, our only car is an electric from 2015. It was a lot cheaper for one thing (taxed way less).. and replacing fossil cars with electric ones is on the national agenda. The goal is to have it done by 2025.
electric cars are just another way to fuck over poor people
they're not better for the environment
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jury-verdict-e-jean-carroll-trump-rape-case_n_644d4035e4b039ec4e855930
QuoteA Manhattan jury unanimously sided with advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in her civil lawsuit against former President Donald Trump, whom she says raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s.
The panel reached its decision Tuesday after less than three hours of deliberation, finding him liable for sexual abuse — but not rape — and declaring he owes $5 million in total damages.
so they think she's lying about the rape but not the assault?
did anyone else hear anything?
nobody knows what, if anything, happened
she was a respected journalist and author
would the jury have believed a store clerk who was traumatized by the rape and became a junkie and was in and out of jail? i'll answer that for you: fuck no
in other words they wouldn't have awarded this money to someone who was more likely to be telling the truth
running for president is the moral equivalent of an attempted rape anyway
it's an aggressive move to exert power over others
why we even vote for anyone to be able to lord over is beyond me
frankly, it's stupid af to vote in favor of another person to be more powerful than you are and it shows a deep lack of self-respect and a willingness to see yourself as less than someone else which is to say all voters are confessing that they think of themselves as subhumans
anyway, if i was on the jury i'm pretty sure i would've said well we either believe this woman or we don't but then again saying we don't believe you but trump should pay you anyways is actually a pretty funny slam on both of these rich people but especially trump - imagine a kid snitches on another kid and the teacher says well i don't believe you but let's put the other kid in detention anyway just because fuck that kid
Robert De Niro has welcomed another child. The 79-year-old is now the father of seven.
🤢 🤮 god that's fucking repulsive
somebody castrate this man
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 12:39 PM Robert De Niro has welcomed another child. The 79-year-old is now the father of seven.
🤢 🤮 god that's fucking repulsive
somebody castrate this man
:laughing:
Wow, that's more than twice the age my dad was when both I and my sister were born. I couldn't imagine growing up with a parent that old.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 10, 2023, 02:39 PMWow, that's more than twice the age my dad was when both I and my sister were born. I couldn't imagine growing up with a parent that old.
let's be honest - he's not going to play any kind of active role in that child's upbringing- so they probably won't be able to imagine it either
Oh, absolutely. I'm sure that kid will have a messy upbringing any way you slice it though.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 10, 2023, 02:48 PMOh, absolutely. I'm sure that kid will have a messy upbringing any way you slice it though.
^ Yep, Hollywood sires yet another mixed up rich kid. The industry seems to have a talent for that, from Joan Crawford's daughter onwards.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 02:46 PMlet's be honest - he's not going to play any kind of active role in that child's upbringing- so they probably won't be able to imagine it either
:laughing: Yep, that is so selfish and irresponsible of R De N, especially as the guy has six kids already.
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Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 12:34 PMso they think she's lying about the rape but not the assault?
First reports of the verdict didn't make the jury's reasoning clear. AFAIK, and without being too graphic, our man Trump was using his finger, not his dong, which is why they said no to rape, but yes to assault. Too me the verdict doesn't suggest that EJ Caroll was lying, but instead over-reaching with her rape accusation.
Seems a bit selfish but what do I know.
Just seen
@Lisnaholic said the same. Honoured to be thinking along the same lines as him.
Quotethe verdict doesn't suggest that EJ Caroll was lying, but instead over-reaching
sounds like trump was the one over-reaching
^ :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 10, 2023, 03:22 PMJust seen @Lisnaholic said the same. Honoured to be thinking along the same lines as him.
^ :laughing: That's the nicest thing anyone has said about me in a long time, jimmy jazz ! :love:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 03:28 PMsounds like trump was the one over-reaching
It reminds me of these Trump quotes...
Quote"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
"Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."
Here's another piece of welcome breaking news from the BBC:
QuoteGeorge Santos charged with fraud and money laundering: The New York congressman is in custody and will appear in court on Wednesday.
-Congressman George Santos, a New York Republican, has been charged by federal prosecutors
-The first-term representative was charged on 13 counts including fraud, money laundering and theft of public funds
-Allegations that he fabricated aspects of his background and manipulated people into giving money to fake charities are being investigated
-Santos, 34, has admitted lying about his life story including about going to college
-He is also accused of falsely claiming his mother perished in 9/11 and of stealing money fundraised for a dying dog
-Santos has rejected calls to quit Congress, some of which have come from fellow Republicans
Geez, I always get a bit freaked out when I find that these insane conservative politicians are close to me in age. I thought that guy was like mid-40s.
Anyway drag his ass.
Quotestealing money fundraised for a dying dog.
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i've seen that meme before but never so perfectly executed
shit has me cracking up
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 10, 2023, 05:16 PMGeez, I always get a bit freaked out when I find that these insane conservative politicians are close to me in age. I thought that guy was like mid-40s.
Anyway drag his ass.
I have similar feelings, but it freaks me out that a lot of them are
younger than me. :laughing:
Saw AOC is younger than me (only just) and nearly had a heart attack.
Biden's family received millions in foreign payments while he served as vice president (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/may/10/joe-bidens-family-received-millions-foreign-paymen/)
There's no way this all happened without Biden knowing about it
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 09, 2023, 12:52 PMthen she definitely needs a bare ass spanking
The line forms here. Bring a book; there will be a wait. :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 10, 2023, 06:21 PMSaw AOC is younger than me (only just) and nearly had a heart attack.
It's weird having politicians younger than me, but at least in AOC's case she's not a flaming bigot like Ron DeSantis who is also younger than me.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 01:03 AMelectric cars are just another way to fuck over poor people
they're not better for the environment
They are. It depends on where you get electricity, but by and large they're definitely better for the environment. Plus in order to get closer to the possibility of powering cars with green energy, you kinda have to make a move away from fossil fuels. It's a necessary step.
Maybe you can imagine the sort of discussions and conspiracy theory that's been going on here after policies were put in place to promote electric cars. It's been like that for many years now. Like.. they're cheaper when you buy them, you get to use the buss lanes, way less upkeep. Meanwhile, people who'd bought expensive fossil cars were enraged. Conspiracy theorists tried the "well, actually they're worse for the environment" argument but AFAIK that's been debunked over and over again. It flares up now and then because:
- A lot of people want electric cars to fail for some reason
- Who doesn't love the irony of something that's environmentally good turning out to be environmentally worse?
Anyways, the power in our electric grid comes from dammed water. It's better than burning oil. There's an actual reason electric cars are part of national policy here.
Quote from: Guybrush on May 10, 2023, 06:40 PMThey are. It depends on where you get electricity, but by and large they're definitely better for the environment. Plus in order to get closer to the possibility of powering cars with green energy, you kinda have to make a move away from fossil fuels. It's a necessary step.
I've always thought one of the biggest upsides of EVs is the flexibility of how they're powered. Like you alluded to, they work with whatever powers the local grid, which makes it easier for a country or region to move from one source of energy to another. I recognize that there are environmental issues with mining for and disposing of the batteries, but I think moving in the direction of technology that doesn't put all the energy eggs in one basket is a positive thing.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 12:39 PM Robert De Niro has welcomed another child. The 79-year-old is now the father of seven.
🤢 🤮 god that's fucking repulsive
somebody castrate this man
Guess somebody made him an offer he couldn't refuse...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-dogs-shot-dead-armed-29941357
The Met Police are in a spot of bother over shooting dead two dogs during a kerfuffle yesterday.
Quote from: SGR on May 10, 2023, 06:26 PMBiden's family received millions in foreign payments while he served as vice president (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/may/10/joe-bidens-family-received-millions-foreign-paymen/)
There's no way this all happened without Biden knowing about it
i don't doubt but i also don't consider the washington times a legit source
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 10, 2023, 07:12 PMhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-dogs-shot-dead-armed-29941357
The Met Police are in a spot of bother over shooting dead two dogs during a kerfuffle yesterday.
Someone got a bone to pick with them, eh? Sorry, sorry...
:shycouch:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 07:18 PMi don't doubt but i also don't consider the washington times a legit source
You can find the same details of the story in other sources
Quote from: Guybrush on May 10, 2023, 06:40 PMThey are. It depends on where you get electricity, but by and large they're definitely better for the environment. Plus in order to get closer to the possibility of powering cars with green energy, you kinda have to make a move away from fossil fuels. It's a necessary step.
Maybe you can imagine the sort of discussions and conspiracy theory that's been going on here after policies were put in place to promote electric cars. It's been like that for many years now. Like.. they're cheaper when you buy them, you get to use the buss lanes, way less upkeep. Meanwhile, people who'd bought expensive fossil cars were enraged. Conspiracy theorists tried the "well, actually they're worse for the environment" argument but AFAIK that's been debunked over and over again. It flares up now and then because:
- A lot of people want electric cars to fail for some reason
- Who doesn't love the irony of something that's environmentally good turning out to be environmentally worse?
Anyways, the power in our electric grid comes from dammed water. It's better than burning oil. There's an actual reason electric cars are part of national policy here.
my electricity comes from natural gas which is about twice as carbon friendly as coal which is great until you're using three times as much of it
and large dams are devastating to the local ecosystem and like suburbs the damage is usually irreparable
the private automobile is still a world wide super killer
electric vehicles help people pretend they're doing something positive which makes them even more unpalatable from ecological standpoint
the private automobile in any form is unsustainable and everything that supports their continued existence is bad
Quote from: Janszoon on May 10, 2023, 07:02 PMI've always thought one of the biggest upsides of EVs is the flexibility of how they're powered. Like you alluded to, they work with whatever powers the local grid, which makes it easier for a country or region to move from one source of energy to another. I recognize that there are environmental issues with mining for and disposing of the batteries, but I think moving in the direction of technology that doesn't put all the energy eggs in one basket is a positive thing.
we all know trains and public transportation is the only real path - is this worth it if it pushes the real solution back another century?
Quote from: SGR on May 10, 2023, 07:32 PMYou can find the same details of the story in other sources
then use a better source, please
anyway though of course their fucking criminals
there's no other path in america
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 07:39 PMwe all know trains and public transportation is the only real path - is this worth it if it pushes the real solution back another century?
Those are also definitely important things, though obviously they have their flaws as well. I generally try to walk most places, which I think is the best option if you're able to do it. The reality is that there is no panacea, just a variety of imperfect solutions that are better or worse ideas depending on the context.
Quote from: Janszoon on May 10, 2023, 07:54 PMThose are also definitely important things, though obviously they have their flaws as well. I generally try to walk most places, which I think is the best option if you're able to do it. The reality is that there is no panacea, just a variety of imperfect solutions that are better or worse ideas depending on the context.
that's 100% true - so is your more flexible energy source argument
now my car is around 25 years old
here's where i get sensitive
when some rich yuppie cunt who has gone through five automobiles during that time starts up with this we need to transition shit
i've kept my car running and i'm not spending $40 K now
i mean people actually think they're more environmentally inclined when they've had multiple cars manufactured in their service while i've been doing my best with a good local mechanic
and when i feel like i'm getting judged and shit that hits me really fucking wrong especially when it's from someone who can afford whatever the fuck it is they're driving
Let's just get this right. He fired on people RUNNING AWAY, whom he could not confirm were armed (they weren't), gave no warning and shot at kids. So his first reaction on seeing people "on his lawn" was to go up and get his gun?
Sorry, but so many Americans are gone crazy these days. It literally is a case of shoot first, ask questions later. Fucker should go to jail forever.
14-year old girl shot while playing hide and seek (https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0510/1382720-us-teen-shot-playing-hide-and-seek/)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 08:09 PMthat's 100% true - so is your more flexible energy source argument
now my car is around 25 years old
here's where i get sensitive
when some rich yuppie cunt who has gone through five automobiles during that time starts up with this we need to transition shit
i've kept my car running and i'm not spending $40 K now
i mean people actually think they're more environmentally inclined when they've had multiple cars manufactured in their service while i've been doing my best with a good local mechanic
and when i feel like i'm getting judged and shit that hits me really fucking wrong especially when it's from someone who can afford whatever the fuck it is they're driving
I agree that some people can be dumb in terms of what they consider environmentally friendly, but both cars I've owned over the past 13 years or so have been gas-powered and I've never felt like I was being judged for it. My wife is on her second hybrid within roughly the same time span and no one has judged her for that either. Generally my experience where I live has been that no one gives a shit what anyone else is driving.
people judge others by what they're driving all the time
in fact, this discussion started as judgmental prejudices against large vehicles
people frown you for driving a beater
some women like to fuck men with nice cars
some people think maintaining a classic car is admirable
some prissy cunts think they're better because they drive a an ev
some people, like myself, assume ev owners are prissy cunts
I'm just saying I've never felt judged for driving a gas-powered car. Maybe it's just that I don't care.
Quote from: Janszoon on May 11, 2023, 12:31 PMI'm just saying I've never felt judged for driving a gas-powered car. Maybe it's just that I don't care.
i hear ya
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 10, 2023, 08:09 PMthat's 100% true - so is your more flexible energy source argument
now my car is around 25 years old
here's where i get sensitive
when some rich yuppie cunt who has gone through five automobiles during that time starts up with this we need to transition shit
i've kept my car running and i'm not spending $40 K now
i mean people actually think they're more environmentally inclined when they've had multiple cars manufactured in their service while i've been doing my best with a good local mechanic
and when i feel like i'm getting judged and shit that hits me really fucking wrong especially when it's from someone who can afford whatever the fuck it is they're driving
Well, we drove an old car from the 90s that we'd gotten from my parents. They'd tried selling it, but nobody wanted it. When the exhaust started falling out, we scrapped it.
The electric is the only car we ever bought. When we needed a car nr. 2, we bought bikes instead.
So we're doing some things at least to keep our carbon footprint down.
However, to really make an impact, it'd be more useful to invent a greener asphalt or concrete or just regulate pollution from businesses (my previous job, actually).
i've really been coming after you
i'll chill
plus being norwegian you're totally outside the the realm of craniums that need cracking
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 11, 2023, 04:41 PMi've really been coming after you
i'll chill
plus being norwegian you're totally outside the the realm of craniums that need cracking
No worries, my friend 😊 I generally enjoy our discussions and your unique perspective on things even when we don't agree.
I have not laughed at a story this hard in a long time
Homeless man charged with hate crimes for defecating on two LGBTQ+ Pride flags: NYPD (https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-lgbtq-pride-flag-defecation-hate-crime-manhattan-restaurant-innocent-20230510-gy2ew2aaezhmdlgtxfbofxhnfe-story.html)
The homeless man's name? Fred Innocent. :laughing: :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on May 12, 2023, 04:00 AMI have not laughed at a story this hard in a long time
Homeless man charged with hate crimes for defecating on two LGBTQ+ Pride flags: NYPD (https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-lgbtq-pride-flag-defecation-hate-crime-manhattan-restaurant-innocent-20230510-gy2ew2aaezhmdlgtxfbofxhnfe-story.html)
The homeless man's name? Fred Innocent. :laughing: :laughing:
fuck the daily news is paywalling me
they gotta be joking
ain't nobody paying for their bullshit
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 12, 2023, 04:21 AMfuck the daily news is paywalling me
they gotta be joking
ain't nobody paying for their bullshit
Bro, what are you doing? Get the uBlock Origin extension on your browser and exile all that bullshit.
Here's another link:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/suspect-who-defecated-on-pride-flag-at-nyc-eatery-charged-with-hate-crime/
Quote from: SGR on May 12, 2023, 04:34 AMBro, what are you doing? Get the uBlock Origin extension on your browser and exile all that bullshit.
can you do that with an iphone?
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 12, 2023, 07:36 AMcan you do that with an iphone?
I don't have an iPhone - but I believe so - but you might need to install Firefox or Chrome from the app store. I'm not sure if extensions are available on Safari (the standard iPhone browser)
Some terrifying but exciting news from our glorious Kingdom:
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/dna-british-panther-countryside/
QuoteCat's out of the bag: DNA test confirms 'big cats are on the prowl' in the British countryside
I wonder how it happened? People have been sure of this for years and years so there must be a sustainable population of them which I think is exciting. Obviously I wouldn't want to see one but there's little chance of that where I am.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/05/07/black-california-could-receive-up-to-12m-in-reparations/
QuoteBlack Californians could get $1.2m each in reparations
Panel set up by state's Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, recommends total payout of $500 billion for years of discrimination suffered
Thoughts?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 13, 2023, 01:25 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/05/07/black-california-could-receive-up-to-12m-in-reparations/
Thoughts?
Never going to happen. It's empty political virtue signalling at its most ridiculous and shameless.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 13, 2023, 01:25 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/05/07/black-california-could-receive-up-to-12m-in-reparations/
Thoughts?
if desantis appointed me to a panel on what needs to be done to rectify the injustices done to southern white trash i'd say the same fucking thing "let's start with making me a millionaire and then take it from there"
if i were black i'd support the fuck out of reparations but since i'm white and sure as fuck don't want to PAY reparations i'm against it
frankly i'm starting to feel the same way about ukraine
they're saying california should pay $500 B to blacks - well, at least they're people we actually owe something to - from what i've read we've spent $120 to $250 B on ukraine and i mean who the fuck are they
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 13, 2023, 02:39 PMNever going to happen. It's empty political virtue signalling at its most ridiculous and shameless.
Honestly, it's kind of offensive (or at least disappointing) to me that we lie to black people like this. Why can't we just tell them the truth instead of acting like this is a serious consideration? It's never going to happen - it's just too far. And the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, knows it's too far - and given that he seems to have national ambitions (running for president), giving out cash payment reparations for slavery would completely ruin his chances - but instead of just saying the quiet part out loud, he strings black people along like he really is considering it.
Black people: Because slavery was horrible and unjust, we should be compensated for our ancestors' suffering
White people: Oh yes, that makes complete sense! Let's set up a committee task force to see just how much money it would be
Black people: Okay, we'll get right on that!
White people: Sounds great, let us know what you find!
Black people (months later): Okay, it would appear that the fair numbers would equate to 1.2 million dollars per person affected, which would amount in total to around 800 billlion dollars
White people: Oh interesting! Great work! But it would seem to us that slavery's legacy is about more than cash payments. Cash payments really wouldn't suffice to rectify it. That said, if you wanted, we could set up another committee task force to review the findings of this committee task force.
California governor Gavin Newsom does NOT endorse $1.2 million reparations checks, claiming slavery's legacy is about 'more than cash payments' - instead pledging 'systemic changes' like equity in housing, education and healthcare (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12066487/California-governor-Gavin-Newsom-does-NOT-endorse-1-2-million-reparations-checks.html)
Quoteslavery's legacy is about more than cash payments
lol at this
that's about as rich as a doctor saying i would give you morphine but a bullet wound is about so much more than pain
and in fact doctors do say that shit
what you wrote is 100% correct
you don't ever get a straight honest answer in this country - it's just one load of bullshit after another
then people are like why are people so pissed off lol
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 13, 2023, 03:43 PMif desantis appointed me to a panel on what needs to be done to rectify the injustices done to southern white trash i'd say the same fucking thing "let's start with making me a millionaire and then take it from there"
if i were black i'd support the fuck out of reparations but since i'm white and sure as fuck don't want to PAY reparations i'm against it
frankly i'm starting to feel the same way about ukraine
they're saying california should pay $500 B to blacks - well, at least they're people we actually owe something to - from what i've read we've spent $120 to $250 B on ukraine and i mean who the fuck are they
Good points. You and I had nothing to do with slavery. We never had a choice in the matter. And the people who'd end up getting the money from our tax dollars had nothing to do with slavery either - they weren't slaves (which doesn't mean they haven't put been put in a disadvantageous position because of it). As a result, the majority of the white population is not going to support it - and it's a losing proposition, even for Democrats (and they know it - but they can't say it out loud). To me, it just comes across as completely patronizing to black people to act like we're seriously considering it. But if they tell black people the truth, that would be
racist. If cash payment reparations did happen, wouldn't other groups have a case too? How about women who weren't allowed to vote until 1920? Or the Irish? Or Chinese Americans? It's a Pandora's Box that I don't think any politician has the balls to open.
And yes, if it was a binary choice, I'd support black people in the US (or our homeless people or veterans) getting this money we're spending on Ukraine. We should be investing in and helping our own people. Fuck the stupid war. The war needs to be ended.
Quote from: SGR on May 13, 2023, 04:29 PMGood points. You and I had nothing to do with slavery. We never had a choice in the matter.
That's not what it's about though. It's about the fact that the United States, as a country, benefited enormously from slave labor and wouldn't be where it is today without it.
Quote from: Janszoon on May 13, 2023, 10:33 PMThat's not what it's about though. It's about the fact that the United States, as a country, benefited enormously from slave labor and wouldn't be where it is today without it.
so are you trying to say blacks should be paying the rest of us reparations for creating this fuck hole because that's not fair at all - they didn't want to do this to us our ancestors forced them to
Quote from: Janszoon on May 13, 2023, 10:33 PMThat's not what it's about though. It's about the fact that the United States, as a country, benefited enormously from slave labor and wouldn't be where it is today without it.
However you want to characterize it is fine, but ultimately, if the money would come from taxes on people who had nothing to do with slavery, that would seem to be entirely unfair. The government probably couldn't gather all the necessary (i.e. whatever number that whatever committee comes up with) funds this way, but it would make more sense to auction off valuable or desirable historical items in museums related to those who were involved with slavery (like our founding fathers) to pay reparations, in the hypothetical case that it happened. My main point though is that it's not going to happen, and to continue to dangle the carrot like it will seems rather insulting.
'That's just not happening': California lawmaker sparks furious backlash after warning black residents NOT to get their hopes up for seven-figure reparations checks - as Gavin Newsom reveals budget deficit is $10 BILLION higher than forecast (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12080927/California-lawmakers-warn-black-residents-not-hopes-seven-figure-reparations-checks.html)
Housing association discovers body of tenant six years after death (https://ardwatalab.net/news-headlines/housing-association-discovers-body-of-tenant-six-years-after-death)QuoteThe association discovered the corpse of Robert Alton in his apartment. A coroner determined Alton would have died in 2017 at the age of 70, his death going unnoticed since he continued to pay rent through automatic rent payments funded by housing benefits.
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6w90Mx5/2975-CE26-8-AD9-4-FB4-909-C-E53372-DADEEE.jpg)
could be brutal
i've been to that city, Chittagong, i was just googling pictures of it and i can't believe how modern it looks
my memory might be a little exaggerated but when i was there they didn't even have bridges or traffic lights
if that's not entirely accurate it's definitely true that huge intersections were just free for alls with cars busses scooters bicycles pedestrians- i'm talking like eight lanes of traffic passing through each other with no guidance
and to cross over water you had to get on these boats that were like super long canoes and would literally be only one or two inches above the water when full
Lol got'em
Trump Wishes A Happy Mother's Day to the "Mothers, Wives, and Lovers" of "Radical Left Fascists." (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-melania-mothers-day-truth-social-b2338670.html)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 15, 2023, 06:00 AMLol got'em
Trump Wishes A Happy Mother's Day to the "Mothers, Wives, and Lovers" of "Radical Left Fascists." (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-melania-mothers-day-truth-social-b2338670.html)
A fascist lover
Made my mother
And then my mother made me...
Lou Miami and the Kozmetix - Fascist Lover
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 14, 2023, 03:18 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/V6w90Mx5/2975-CE26-8-AD9-4-FB4-909-C-E53372-DADEEE.jpg)
could be brutal
i've been to that city, Chittagong, i was just googling pictures of it and i can't believe how modern it looks
my memory might be a little exaggerated but when i was there they didn't even have bridges or traffic lights
if that's not entirely accurate it's definitely true that huge intersections were just free for alls with cars busses scooters bicycles pedestrians- i'm talking like eight lanes of traffic passing through each other with no guidance
and to cross over water you had to get on these boats that were like super long canoes and would literally be only one or two inches above the water when full
That's one hell of a travel experience, TR!
AFAIK, Bangladesh is a country that's never stood a chance: suffering famines since before George Harrison organised his benefit concert and now doubly screwed as it will become the victim of our rising sea levels. From a position of great ignorance, I wonder if an area with such problems should even have been a country in its own right. If Gandhi had had his way, it would've been part of India, or more recently could've remained a disconnected part of Pakistan - a weird situation, but still better than going it alone without a stronger big-brother country to help it out.
From what I saw a lot of India was doing a lot worse than anything I saw in Bangladesh.
Obviously, an acute famine is horrific but India had (and I think still has) famine conditions woven into modern districts where a lot of people had money. I believe that Bangladesh does a better job of caring for their poorest people than India.
Geographically they have been dealt a tough hand even before global warming but with heat waves and wild fires and how unpredictable and widespread it all is, even with rising sea levels, it's hard to say who's going down first. Plus, they're culturally adapted to swampy flooding already so maybe they will have an edge. And think about Japan, they have mother nature breathing down their necks non-stop and relatively speaking they're doing great.
I can't see how they would be better off if they were still East Pakistan but who knows.
My impression is Pakistan is worse off and they are on the brink of water rights conflict (also climate related) with Afghanistan and I just think that place is a complete mess.
QuoteAn 18-year-old man armed with at least three guns roamed through a northwestern New Mexico community firing randomly at cars and houses, killing three people and injuring six others including two police officers before he was killed, authorities said.
The shootings occurred around 11 a.m. Monday in Farmington, a city of about 50,000 people near the Four Corners — where New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado meet — that is a supply line and bedroom community to the region's oil and natural gas industry.
imagine just driving along taking it easy and pop
what if you were in the car and that happened to a loved one
this country is fucked out of its skull
On yesterday's news:-
Historically, I think Indians had, or could easily get, British citizenship, so there were plenty in London when I was growing up there. More recently, in the 1980s, India became a favoured country for international companies to establish their outsourced call-centres, because English was widely spoken and Indian universities were earning an impressive reputation for the quality of their computer graduates. Isn't the head guy at Google an Indian? I never heard of Bangladesh being spoken of in those kinds of terms, which is why I'm surprised that parts of India struck you as a lot worse than Bangladesh, but you should know, having actually visited these places. And it's true that India does have those out-of-control megacities where the quality of life must be appalling.
I also can't remember any facts with which to make a comparison between Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 15, 2023, 04:16 PMObviously, an acute famine is horrific but India had (and I think still has) famine conditions woven into modern districts where a lot of people had money. I believe that Bangladesh does a better job of caring for their poorest people than India.
I can't see how they would be better off if they were still East Pakistan but who knows.
^ It seems like this would be the hypothetical bottom line if you lived in Bangladesh: Would you rather be abandoned by your neighbouring countries, or be abandoned by people you shared citizenship with?
obviously it's more important for people to take care of themselves and each other
the border between india and bangladesh had refugees trying for greener pastures on both sides but the indian side was really bad
like with kids in final stages of starvation like on those commercials bad
^ Like many people, I've never witnessed that kind of poverty, except on t.v.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 16, 2023, 04:02 PMthe border between india and bangladesh had refugees trying for greener pastures on both sides
That's a depressing scenario. I wonder if the US border will ever be like that, with Americans fleeing all the mass shootings and book-bannings for the serene tolerance that is Mexico.
i think that americans are already fleeing to mexico at close to the same rate they're coming here
it's just when you add all the central american countries that the numbers get skewed
spanish speaking immigrants don't seem problematic to me
i think constantly calling it a "crisis" is racist af tbh
not to mention, it was our fucked up policies that made those places difficult to live in
Salman Rushdie warns against U.S. censorship in rare public address 9 months after being stabbed onstage
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/salman-rushdie-rare-public-address-free-speech/
no one on earth has earned more of a right to be heard on this issue and he says we need to reject censorship from the right and the left
amen 🙏
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 16, 2023, 05:04 PMi think that americans are already fleeing to mexico at close to the same rate they're coming here
it's just when you add all the central american countries that the numbers get skewed
spanish speaking immigrants don't seem problematic to me
i think constantly calling it a "crisis" is racist af tbh
not to mention, it was our fucked up policies that made those places difficult to live in
Is it possible, advisable, or even ethical to make immigration policy the responsibility of our top economists instead of our politicians? (i.e. de-politicize immigration, and make it a matter of balancing the fine line of economic input and social output and optimize that?) Just something I've wondered given our declining domestic birth rates. Obviously I don't think the right-extreme ("let's put a hold on all immigration") or the left-extreme ("let's have open borders") are the correct solutions. There's gotta be a happy medium.
P.S. I don't think "crisis" is the racist buzzword, but rather "invasion" is. The latter implies they're coming here to conquer our country - which they're obviously not doing. They're coming here by and large to better their own lives and the lives of their family.
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California liberals are so full of shit. Fucking shameless. California is more likely to split into three states than for this to happen.
QuoteI don't think "crisis" is the racist buzzword, but rather "invasion"
lol true invasion is worse but crisis is still racist
invasion is klan level bs
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 17, 2023, 02:40 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/sXd2sRPd/B09-A6578-3-D89-4005-8749-8942-C65-F0-AFE.jpg)
California liberals are so full of shit. Fucking shameless. California is more likely to split into three states than for this to happen.
Dave Chappelle - Reparations
^ :laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 16, 2023, 05:18 PMno one on earth has earned more of a right to be heard on this issue and he says we need to reject censorship from the right and the left
amen 🙏
Hear, hear!
Wholeheartedly agree with this.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/tech/montana-governor-tiktok/index.html
QuoteMontana Gov. Greg Gianforte signed a bill Wednesday banning TikTok in the state.
Gianforte tweeted that he has banned TikTok in Montana "to protect Montanans' personal and private data from the Chinese Communist Party," officially making it the first state to ban the social media application.
i guess there's no first amendment in montana
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 18, 2023, 02:59 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/tech/montana-governor-tiktok/index.html
i guess there's no first amendment in montana
The US government doesn't like any competition when it comes to gathering personal data.
Especially when it comes to gathering personal data on people living in the US.
The fact that TikTok is a Chinese company just ruffles their feathers even more.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 18, 2023, 03:34 PMThe US government doesn't like any competition when it comes to gathering personal data.
Especially when it comes to gathering personal data on people living in the US.
The fact that TikTok is a Chinese company just ruffles their feathers even more.
i don't live in montana but i did i'd be a lot more worried about the local government than china
I don't really worry about the privacy concerns/personal data collection. I don't know if banning it is the right move, but TikTok is the most popular app and social media platform for a reason. Its algorithm that feeds content to the user is really, really good. And TikTok's biggest demographic, at least in the US, are teenagers. So the idea that a foreign company (that likely is influenced in some ways by the Chinese government) has this big of a channel to influence the hearts and minds of American youth should at the very least give us pause.
All of these social media algorithms in general (not just TikTok, but our own American social media companies) should get more scrutiny from lawmakers and ethics groups. They all want to increase engagement and increase screen-time, and it's no secret that years ago, Facebook did prime its algorithm to show you things that you either disagreed with or would make you upset to increase engagement. Unfortunately, most of the dinosaurs in our Senate and Congress haven't the faintest clue how any of this stuff works. I'd be willing to bet Dianne Feinstein couldn't even tell you what TikTok is.
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Quote from: SGR on May 18, 2023, 06:30 PMI'd be willing to bet Dianne Feinstein couldn't even tell you what TikTok is.
It's a watch company, right?
QuoteSo the idea that a foreign company (that likely is influenced in some ways by the Chinese government) has this big of a channel to influence the hearts and minds of American youth should at the very least give us pause.
we should be grateful
Speaking of gathering personal data...
Give up your personal data and get a free 55-inch TV (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/telly-free-television-set-california-startup/)
Yep, Sen Feinstein should have stepped down months ago. In her time, she fought the good fight, I think, but has now outstayed her welcome on account of being too old and too sick to do her job. In her way, she is as shameless as George Santos, with what I see as a pigs-at-the-trough mentality: I got a nice salary, thanks to the taxpayer, and nothing will induce me to quit voluntarily. Judge R Bader Ginsberg took the same approach: stayed in the Supreme Court until she died (during Trump presidency) and gave her seat to Kavenaugh, right? If she had retired honourably during Obama's presidency, the SCOTUS majority would surely have been tipped in the liberal direction and those abortion rulings would've gone a different way. Good for you, Bader Ginsberg! Your last year on the court came at a pretty high price for America.
Well, that was more of a rant than I expected! I actually came here to post this: not news, but about a news commentator. I don't really know anything about this guy, but I see behind him 2 guitars, Winston Churchill and Joan Didion, which is quite an intriguing cultural mix, amIright?
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Any other notable back-wall displays that you've seen while consuming the news?
'Oh my God, she bit me': Tourist bitten by woman inside a Broadway bar (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/oh-my-god-she-bit-me-tourist-bitten-by-woman-inside-a-broadway-bar)
This happened in Kid Rock's bar in Nashville.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 19, 2023, 01:49 PMSpeaking of gathering personal data...
Give up your personal data and get a free 55-inch TV (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/telly-free-television-set-california-startup/)
QuoteThe sets feature a main screen on top where viewers watch content and a smaller second screen below that displays a nonstop stream of advertising.
More than 100,000 people registered...
i can't imagine wanting that amount of visual pollution in my home
that's repulsive
i hate big screens
Quote from: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 03:14 PM'Oh my God, she bit me': Tourist bitten by woman inside a Broadway bar (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/oh-my-god-she-bit-me-tourist-bitten-by-woman-inside-a-broadway-bar)
This happened in Kid Rock's bar in Nashville.
people are hungry af
Quote from: Lisnaholic on May 19, 2023, 03:05 PMYep, Sen Feinstein should have stepped down months ago. In her time, she fought the good fight, I think, but has now outstayed her welcome on account of being too old and too sick to do her job. In her way, she is as shameless as George Santos, with what I see as a pigs-at-the-trough mentality: I got a nice salary, thanks to the taxpayer, and nothing will induce me to quit voluntarily. Judge R Bader Ginsberg took the same approach: stayed in the Supreme Court until she died (during Trump presidency) and gave her seat to Kavenaugh, right? If she had retired honourably during Obama's presidency, the SCOTUS majority would surely have been tipped in the liberal direction and those abortion rulings would've gone a different way. Good for you, Bader Ginsberg! Your last year on the court came at a pretty high price for America.
Well, that was more of a rant than I expected! I actually came here to post this: not news, but about a news commentator. I don't really know anything about this guy, but I see behind him 2 guitars, Winston Churchill and Joan Didion, which is quite an intriguing cultural mix, amIright?
It was actually Amy Coney Barrett who replaced Ginsburg:
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She looks like a slightly older Pam from the Office:
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QuoteAmy Coney Barrett
she's unfit to serve as a human urinal although clarence thomas is probably helping to fix that
https://people.com/human-interest/great-grandmother-critical-condition-tasered-by-police-australia/
Great-Grandmother, 95, in Critical Condition After Being Tasered by Police in Australia
that's not the correct way to treat a sheila
Quote from: SGR on May 19, 2023, 03:40 PMIt was actually Amy Coney Barrett who replaced Ginsburg:
Thanks for the correction! Good call on the lookalike :laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 19, 2023, 03:44 PMshe's unfit to serve as a human urinal although clarence thomas is probably helping to fix that
^ I wonder if she's received an invitation to hop into a shower with Rudi Giuliani ?!
Smoke from Canadian fires is pouring into the US and could linger for days
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/19/americas/canada-wildfires-us-smoke-air-quality/index.html
i think the only reasonable response is full on war with canada and seizing their oil fields and ski resorts
Third time's the charm I guess. :laughing:
Former DOE official Sam Brinton arrested for third time for allegedly stealing luggage at airport (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/sam-brinton-luggage-theft-arrest-doe-b2341647.html)
Okay so if you've been following along in other threads. I'm super active again locally in different groups and most recently. The group that I'm active with went to welcome asylum seekers that are being bussed up from NYC to local area hotels.
Well there was a story that ended up going viral/nationwide about the asylum seekers being taken in and that some veterans were kicked out because of them.
I did some research to find out how true that story was because even though I'm supportive of the asylum seekers I wouldn't want them to displace veterans and it seemed like a fishy story to rile up a base that already hates the asylum seekers and refers to them as illegals and aliens that should go back to Mexico. When I have yet to meet a single guy that was from Mexico. They are mostly coming from South America, Africa, Eastern Europe and a few from the Middle East.
I called the person that was in charge of moving the homeless veterans to a new hotel because of the asylum seekers and I had a lengthy conversation with her over the phone. She basically lied to me like she lied to media outlets. Come to find out, she went to a homeless shelter and recruited 15 guys to tell them to pretend to be veterans. She was supposed to pay them 200 bucks and get them food and alcohol. She only did the food and liquor part. She still owes those men their 200 dollars for her huge hoax. The incredibly sad part is that she is a veteran herself and runs a great organization that helps out homeless veterans. So it's beyond stupid of her to ruin her reputation this way. I'm trying to figure out like who behind the scenes put her up to it and if she in turn got paid to create this fake story but her reputation is in the toilet and it's veterans that her organization helped that will end up paying the final cost for her greed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/story-homeless-vets-kicked-out-hotel-for-migrants-hoax-2023-5
QuoteFinch continued to change her story, Mid Hudson News reported, changing the date on which she claims the vets were displaced, the number of vets involved, and the names of the hotels where the vets were supposedly being kicked out of and relocated to.
By Thursday, seven homeless men came forward to Mid Hudson News and claimed they were part of a group of 15 men recruited to pretend they were veterans who had been kicked out of the Crossroads Hotel.
The job came with a promise of $200 in addition to food and alcohol, Mid Hudson News reported. The men say they never received the payment, Mid Hudson News reported.
Sharon Finch is the name of the lady that I spoke with on the phone.
It just proves that anyone can do anything to get you on their side. It usually backfires though as it may have possibly on Finch and/or her handlers
why do people gaf about veterans
fuck veterans
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 21, 2023, 04:00 AMThird time's the charm I guess. :laughing:
Former DOE official Sam Brinton arrested for third time for allegedly stealing luggage at airport (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/sam-brinton-luggage-theft-arrest-doe-b2341647.html)
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A privileged white American stealing from an African woman of color and wearing her dress. Cultural appropriation at its fugliest.
I know Biden wanted to be inclusive in his cabinet but this guy was just a freak.
It's times like these that I miss Mr. Blackwell.
2 missing boys found dead in separate rivers, police say
ugh- this reminds me of the atlanta murders from when i was a kid
https://www.wsmv.com/2023/05/22/2-missing-boys-found-dead-separate-rivers-police-say/
Meta fined record $1.3 billion and ordered to stop sending European user data to US (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/facebook-parent-meta-hit-record-fine-transferring-european-99501269)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 22, 2023, 01:41 PMMeta fined record $1.3 billion and ordered to stop sending European user data to US (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/facebook-parent-meta-hit-record-fine-transferring-european-99501269)
nice
I am proud to have Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok and Twitter all blocked on my devices. I think the older I get the more of a technophobe I become, at least with regards to the corporate tech overlords. I really am turning into my mother, haha.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 22, 2023, 02:10 PMI am proud to have Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok and Twitter all blocked on my devices. I think the older I get the more of a technophobe I become, at least with regards to the corporate tech overlords. I really am turning into my mother, haha.
Social media and smartphones are absolute cancer to kids' self-esteems. And yet, it's probably difficult for parents not to get a smartphone for their kid since every other kid is getting one (and as a result, the kids will not let up about pestering you for one)
If I had kids they'd have dumbphones. Ring and text when they're out, that's it. No chance I'd have them on all the social media stuff now.
I feel sorry for them tbh. Imagine every fuck up you made as a youngster being sent round your school and accessible permanently. Imagine all the secrecy and bullying that must go on in WhatsApp groups and whatever.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 22, 2023, 02:51 PMIf I had kids they'd have dumbphones. Ring and text when they're out, that's it. No chance I'd have them on all the social media stuff now.
I feel sorry for them tbh. Imagine every fuck up you made as a youngster being sent round your school and accessible permanently. Imagine all the secrecy and bullying that must go on in WhatsApp groups and whatever.
Not only that, but I think how happy/content we are is baked into us as some kind of function of comparing ourselves to others around us.
For example, let's say you grow up in some town where you're poor and underfed. But you look around you and 99% of the other people in the town are happy, living in big houses, and driving luxury sedans. You're going to reflect on your own situation in comparison and be pretty unhappy, jealous, discontented, and unsatisfied about it - which in some cases would lead to depression but might also lead to you deciding to make changes so you can improve. On the other hand, if you grow up in a middle-class place, you're well fed, you live in a decent home, and you seem to be doing as well as most everyone around you, you'll probably be a lot happier.
But in general, if you look around you, at the people you interact with and have to deal with in real life, you're probably doing fairly well in comparison. Then you look on social media at other people's highlight reels, and suddenly you're the most boring and ugliest person in the room. Definitely not good for kids and most of them aren't able to make this distinction. Young women face enough body insecurity issues as it is with body standards set by popular media, they don't need the additional factor of seeing girls like this on Instagram and thinking this is 'normal':
"Your average Instagram picture"
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tl;dr: Most by people, by definition, are average - and social media feeds kids the high end of the exceptions.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 21, 2023, 05:00 PMwhy do people gaf about veterans
fuck veterans
Say that to my face and I will slap the shit out of you joking or not.
I will call Mindy to beat your ass too.
I'm a veteran.
Republicans pretend to like veterans and want to grandstand with them but behind the scenes they vote against funding to improve the VA hospitals and other things associated with veterans.
idgaf
take it personal if you want
every time a us soldier dies it fills my heart with joy
fuck the military and that means fuck the people in the military
i'm glad they're on the street dying
fuck our war machine from the president to every last enlisted and retired veteran
fuck no i'm not joking
baby killing civilian murdering fucking cowards
glad the suicide rates are up too
fucking scumbag terrorists
wah wah wah cry about the military industrial complex all you want you benefit from it.
Enlisted and Veterans were just pawns in the higher ups schemes.
take your silver spoon in your mouth crying elsewhere.
Majority of people that sign up for the military don't do it out of patriotrism for the country. They do it for a stable job/income, to avoid getting into trouble/jail time, for college money to get a better career later on. Some even join because they just want to be able to travel around the world with all those added benefits. Military recruiters target low income minorities in high schools all across the nation. I saw a sign outside of my local high school about 3 weeks ago that said signing bonus is up to 40k. They have have a hard time recruiting lately it seems. If a kid grows up poor of course he's going to jump at the promise to get 40k and a dodge. Well thats an old school reference that enlisted dudes would get a dodge charger straight out of bootcamp with the money they got for signing up.
Take your white privilege elsewhere and have a seat sir.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 05:46 PMidgaf
take it personal if you want
every time a us soldier dies it fills my heart with joy
fuck the military and that means fuck the people in the military
i'm glad they're on the street dying
fuck our war machine from the president to every last enlisted and retired veteran
fuck no i'm not joking
baby killing civilian murdering fucking cowards
glad the suicide rates are up too
fucking scumbag terrorists
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Thanks, DJ. As a non-military person myself, I didn't know how to explain the unexplainable to TR. Yes, I have relatives in the military, mostly for economic reasons so I get where you're coming from. It's tragic our politicians send you guys to danger zones throughout the world. If you want to thank a veteran for his/her service like on a game show or something, don't send them in harm's way to begin with. They're not the enemy, they're only human like the rest of us.
Did you have to serve in a war, DJ? I can only imagine some of the horrors that go with war.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 05:46 PMidgaf
take it personal if you want
every time a us soldier dies it fills my heart with joy
fuck the military and that means fuck the people in the military
i'm glad they're on the street dying
fuck our war machine from the president to every last enlisted and retired veteran
fuck no i'm not joking
baby killing civilian murdering fucking cowards
glad the suicide rates are up too
fucking scumbag terrorists
That's poor mate come on.
And the military don't just fight in wars. They do lots of rescue shit and delivering aid also.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 05:46 PMidgaf
take it personal if you want
every time a us soldier dies it fills my heart with joy
fuck the military and that means fuck the people in the military
i'm glad they're on the street dying
fuck our war machine from the president to every last enlisted and retired veteran
fuck no i'm not joking
baby killing civilian murdering fucking cowards
glad the suicide rates are up too
fucking scumbag terrorists
I think we're gonna need a dislike button. This is by far the most insensitive (and dumbest) thing I've read on here.
as if the us military isn't by far the biggest terrorist organization on earth
they deserve the same disrespect as al qaida the taliban boko haram or any of them
this romanticizing of a murderous cult just because they're american is stupid af
fuck them and fuck their excuses
if ordered they'll murder in the middle east
if ordered ther'll murder in central america
the entire disarray and death and chaos in iran iraq central america pakistan and afghanistan is on them
talk sweet however much you want but the lives they take, always in their country, never defending ours, are real people that deserve to live and it's our duty to reject their murder the same as their mothers do
so yeah fuck veterans
Quote from: Rubber Soul on May 22, 2023, 06:07 PMThanks, DJ. As a non-military person myself, I didn't know how to explain the unexplainable to TR. Yes, I have relatives in the military, mostly for economic reasons so I get where you're coming from. It's tragic our politicians send you guys to danger zones throughout the world. If you want to thank a veteran for his/her service like on a game show or something, don't send them in harm's way to begin with. They're not the enemy, they're only human like the rest of us.
Did you have to serve in a war, DJ? I can only imagine some of the horrors that go with war.
I was in the Navy and fortunately I didn't have to go see a conflict up close. I feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war then come back home with PTSD and liberal cucks like TR talking about shit they have no idea about.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 22, 2023, 07:55 PMI was in the Navy and fortunately I didn't have to go see a conflict up close. I feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war then come back home with PTSD and liberal cucks like TR talking about shit they have no idea about.
i'm not liberal
liberals are the bitches who cry for you
QuoteI feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war
i feel bad for the innocent people they go to foreign cultures and murder
and what's with "have to"
there's no conscription
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 05:46 PMglad the suicide rates are up too
This is an absolutely heinous and disgusting thing to say. As someone who has attempted, this attitude toward human life makes me sick to my stomach to read.
I try to be nice and understanding and use respectful etiquette as a rule, but I have my limits.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 08:10 PMi'm not liberal
liberals are the bitches who cry for you
i feel bad for the innocent people they go to foreign cultures and murder
and what's with "have to"
there's no conscription
No way it's always liberals that have a hard on just like you mostly college age kids that want to rage against the system and military industrial complex. You sound JUST like them or an older hippie from the 70s. Liberals are always anti-military for the most part while Republicans are pro-military.
My issue with your argument is that you are taking your vitriol out on the wrong people. Your hatred and anger should be directed towards the politicians and higher ups that get us into these stupid conflicts/wars.
It's similar to if you railed against Capitalism but at the same time was saying fuck retail workers I hope they die and burn in hell. If you are angry about Capitalism take it up with the big corporations and the CEOs of some of these insanely rich companies that are taking adventage of the poor and working class. Not the people that need to work two to three different retail jobs to provide for their families because CEOs of one company doesn't want to pay them a living wage so they have to work other jobs to make ends meet. Also cutting their hours just shy of being able to qualify for medical benefits and all the other shady practices they do.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 22, 2023, 08:33 PMThis is an absolutely heinous and disgusting thing to say. As someone who has attempted, this attitude toward human life makes me sick to my stomach to read.
I try to be nice and understanding and use respectful etiquette as a rule, but I have my limits.
don't go to foreign countries and kill people then
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 22, 2023, 08:39 PMNo way it's always liberals that have a hard on just like you mostly college age kids that want to rage against the system and military industrial complex. You sound JUST like them or an older hippie from the 70s. Liberals are always anti-military for the most part while Republicans are pro-military.
My issue with your argument is that you are taking your vitriol out on the wrong people. Your hatred and anger should be directed towards the politicians and higher ups that get us into these stupid conflicts/wars.
It's similar to if you railed against Capitalism but at the same time was saying fuck retail workers I hope they die and burn in hell. If you are angry about Capitalism take it up with the big corporations and the CEOs of some of these insanely rich companies that are taking adventage of the poor and working class. Not the people that need to work two to three different retail jobs to provide for their families because CEOs of one company doesn't want to pay them a living wage so they have to work other jobs to make ends meet. Also cutting their hours just shy of being able to qualify for medical benefits and all the other shady practices they do.
the working poor don't go to third world countries and murder people
You're being an asshole. Thinking that praise of veterans isn't appropriate(with which I agree) doesn't mean you can talk to people in such a cruel way. You and I have had this argument before, but having certain strong convictions is never an excuse to lose sight of other people's humanity. Once you cross that line you're being stupidly dogmatic
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 08:48 PMthe working poor don't go to third world countries and murder people
You are still missing the point.
You know what nevermind I'm done.
Quote from: Marie Monday on May 22, 2023, 09:37 PMYou're being an asshole. Thinking that praise of veterans isn't appropriate(with which I agree) doesn't mean you can talk to people in such a cruel way. You and I have had this argument before, but having certain strong convictions is never an excuse to lose sight of other people's humanity. Once you cross that line you're being stupidly dogmatic
tell that to the mothers of children killed
TR, you're crossing the line.
When everyone says you're wrong, gross or being an asshole, it's time to reconsider. Instead you double down.
You have your opinions. I don't mind that you have them, but I do mind how you express them and how that affects others.
Please be nice.
hell yes i double down on saying fuck you to the american death machine
dear american military
please fucking die
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 11:20 PMhell yes i double down on saying fuck you to the american death machine
dear american military
please fucking die
It's possible to be opposed to the American military and the military industrial complex without being joyful and exhilirated when veterans (who may have never even seen combat) die or commit suicide. That's completely unhinged, dude. Why harbor such hatred for those who don't have any control over the system that they're a part of? What would you think of someone that would celebrate if you committed suicide because you fund this military with your taxes? Their argument? You could move to a different country.
Quote from: SGR on May 23, 2023, 01:30 AMIt's possible to be opposed to the American military and the military industrial complex without being joyful and exhilirated when veterans (who may have never even seen combat) die or commit suicide. That's completely unhinged, dude. Why harbor such hatred for those who don't have any control over the system that they're a part of? What would you think of someone that would celebrate if you committed suicide because you fund this military with your taxes? Their argument? You could move to a different country.
i think foreign people who want americans to die are fully justified
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 23, 2023, 01:52 AMi think foreign people who want americans to die are fully justified
Any Americans?
Quote from: SGR on May 23, 2023, 03:34 AMWhat if they have dual citizenship?
are they in flight school
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 23, 2023, 04:03 AMare they in flight school
Let's say, hypothetically, they're in boating school.
I don't have any love for the U.S. military, but there's never going to be an era where one big dog or another (whether that's the U.S., China or some future superpower) isn't going to fill those shoes. You think the CCP are going to be kinder world police than the U.S.? Probably not. As much as they like to complain about the U.S., the Nordic countries seem to be rather thrilled by our presence since it means they don't need to pay for a standing army if Russia ever comes knocking. Politicians in various other countries also like our military presence because we have big $$$ and they like it when we spend our money there, which we tend to do when we have boots on the ground.
Just watched Adobe's demo of their new AI text-to-image app, Firefly (beta). Design has changed IMMENSELY from my days as a senior designer.
Quote from: innerspaceboy on May 24, 2023, 06:36 PMJust watched Adobe's demo of their new AI text-to-image app, Firefly (beta). Design has changed IMMENSELY from my days as a senior designer.
that's cool
Quotethe Nordic countries seem to be rather thrilled by our presence since it means they don't need to pay for a standing army if Russia ever comes knocking
iceland is the only one without a standing army
norway and sweden have conscription
but i get what you're saying but the people up there have a myriad of opinions
i get it's impractical for them to distance themselves too far from america but i also think they're concerned about dissolving democracy
whether or not we hold russia or china at bay doesn't change my beliefs
as an american i'm responsible for america
the chinese and russians should fo the same and many people are
Rhode Island tenant facing eviction charged in ax murder of landlord found in the woods wrapped in tarp (https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/tenant-facing-eviction-in-rhode-island-charged-in-ax-murder-of-landlord/)Dead Kennedys - Let's Lynch the Landlord
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 25, 2023, 12:10 AMRhode Island tenant facing eviction charged in ax murder of landlord found in the woods wrapped in tarp (https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/tenant-facing-eviction-in-rhode-island-charged-in-ax-murder-of-landlord/)
Dead Kennedys - Let's Lynch the Landlord
i ain't even gonna say it
Vietnam noodle vendor jailed for anti-state propaganda (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65705048?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)QuoteA noodle vendor in Vietnam who parodied one of the country's most powerful ministers has been jailed for five-and-a half years for anti-state propaganda.
Bui Tuan Lam became famous when he posted a video in 2021 mimicking the trademark gestures of the high-end London-based restaurateur Salt Bae.
A minister had been previously filmed eating a gold-leaf covered steak in a Salt Bae video, causing a scandal.
The Vietnamese government is strictly intolerant of dissent.
The 39-year old's trial and sentencing in a Danang court took just one day. He must serve four years of probation after being released, his lawyer confirmed to the BBC.
In his video, Bui Tuan Lam spread green onions on his noodle soups in imitation of the Turkish celebrity chef - real name Nusret Gökçe - who often sprinkles salt on steak in a theatrical manner.
Days earlier, footage of Vietnam's Minister of Public Security To Lam eating a $2,000 (£1,600) steak at the chef's restaurant had caused an uproar online.
Many Vietnamese noted the incongruence of a top communist official eating a dish costing more than his monthly salary, and right after he had paid a visit to the grave of Karl Marx in London.
that's really disappointing
i have hope for vietnam to be a model of a successfully run moral communist state too
i hope the people don't let that stand because there really are a lot of good people there
i hope amnesty international makes a clear honest objective statement about this
https://apnews.com/article/4de25dd09f61fbaed4a83bce34d7fa83
this doctor is a real one
QuoteAn Indiana board is set to hear allegations Thursday that an Indianapolis doctor should face disciplinary action after she spoke publicly about providing an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from neighboring Ohio.
that's what real doctors do; they care for people
it's nice to see a real doctor up on it
that's courage
Nancy is pretty vindicative, so I was betting he'd get 7 years.
NPR - Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk, is sentenced to over 4 years (https://www.npr.org/2023/05/25/1178099337/richard-barnett-who-put-his-feet-on-nancy-pelosis-desk-is-sentenced-to-over-4-ye)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 25, 2023, 03:10 PMNancy is pretty vindicative, so I was betting he'd get 7 years.
NPR - Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk, is sentenced to over 4 years (https://www.npr.org/2023/05/25/1178099337/richard-barnett-who-put-his-feet-on-nancy-pelosis-desk-is-sentenced-to-over-4-ye)
He got almost as much time as the Vietnamese noodle guy.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 25, 2023, 03:10 PMNancy is pretty vindicative, so I was betting he'd get 7 years.
NPR - Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk, is sentenced to over 4 years (https://www.npr.org/2023/05/25/1178099337/richard-barnett-who-put-his-feet-on-nancy-pelosis-desk-is-sentenced-to-over-4-ye)
i was so thrilled by that picture
that was a wonderful day
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 25, 2023, 03:16 PMHe got almost as much time as the Vietnamese noodle guy.
similar "crimes" imo
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 25, 2023, 03:27 PMsimilar "crimes" imo
That's what I was thinking, also.
The Vietnamese noodle guy made a funny video. The other guy stormed the Capitol as part of an attempt to overturn an election. Really not similar at all honestly.
Quote from: Janszoon on May 25, 2023, 05:18 PMThe Vietnamese noodle guy made a funny video. The other guy stormed the Capitol as part of an attempt to overturn an election. Really not similar at all honestly.
i don't think they're passing out 4 years to everyone whose face was recorded so it's reasonable to deduce that it's because he went out of his way to ridicule a congressperson
that said, it's different though but to me similar as well, but we're bound to feel differently about it because i like what they did on J6, i'm glad congress was scared - no matter how much a disagree with the politics of the protesters i hate the institution of the american congress and i loved seeing their vulnerability under any circumstances
Lolwut.
Minnesota landlord, 37, blasted Billy Joel's 'We Didn't Start the Fire' as 'he torched his own home' with his tenant inside (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124221/Landlord-37-blasted-Didnt-Start-Fire-torched-home-tenant-inside.html)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 25, 2023, 12:10 AMRhode Island tenant facing eviction charged in ax murder of landlord found in the woods wrapped in tarp (https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/tenant-facing-eviction-in-rhode-island-charged-in-ax-murder-of-landlord/)
Dead Kennedys - Let's Lynch the Landlord
I have no love for landlords but a person still died so it's sad.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 26, 2023, 04:03 AMLolwut.
Minnesota landlord, 37, blasted Billy Joel's 'We Didn't Start the Fire' as 'he torched his own home' with his tenant inside (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124221/Landlord-37-blasted-Didnt-Start-Fire-torched-home-tenant-inside.html)
Wait what?
Geez mental health is a real problem all over the US. Also the main reason we have so many school shootings.
it might also have something to do with millions of young people in america have an absolute shit experience in our COMPULSORY education system
maybe it's not actually such a good thing to force people to do things they don't want to do
meanwhile
(https://i.postimg.cc/cHZ6XLQP/IMG-9608.jpg)
don't worry though
we got this
we're going to vote!
if that doesn't work we're going to get together in large groups and carry signs!
FREEDOM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 08:10 PMi'm not liberal
liberals are the bitches who cry for you
I don't mean to bring up this dead horse again but you know why you are just as bad as liberals? Especially social media ones.
You feel like your opinion is the only morally right one and sit on your high horse while shutting down any dissenting opinion without having a conversation.
If you actually have a conversation with me and didn't go to aggressive extremes you'd find out that just because I was in the military doesn't mean that I'm pro military industrial complex. I place the blame squarely on politicians and higher brass that makes the high up decisions. I don't blame the grunts and lower levels for what they have to do as part of the job. There are plenty of people in the military that hate the military as well even though they are getting paid to be there.
A popular phrase that I always saw places was FTN Fuck The Navy. It gets scribbled all over bathroom walls and in different places. Being in the military is not about patriotism for most folks in there its just a means to get out of shitty economic conditions.
Here's another news story that reminds me of a Dead Kennedy's song from the same album...
Canada's euthanasia free-for-all gets wilder: A quarter of people now back lethal injections for the POOR and homeless — critic slams 'shameful' attitude in world's most permissive program (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124293/1-4-Canadians-backs-lethal-injections-POOR-homeless-critics-slam-shameful-attitude.html)QuoteCanada is under fire once again as host of the world's most permissive assisted suicide program, where millions of people now say the homeless and poor should be eligible for state-sanctioned deaths.
A survey released this month found that more than a quarter of Canadians say being impoverished or unhoused is a good enough reason for a doctor to inject somebody with a deadly cocktail of drugs.
Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 26, 2023, 01:50 PMI don't mean to bring up this dead horse again but you know why you are just as bad as liberals? Especially social media ones.
You feel like your opinion is the only morally right one and sit on your high horse while shutting down any dissenting opinion without having a conversation.
If you actually have a conversation with me and didn't go to aggressive extremes you'd find out that just because I was in the military doesn't mean that I'm pro military industrial complex. I place the blame squarely on politicians and higher brass that makes the high up decisions. I don't blame the grunts and lower levels for what they have to do as part of the job. There are plenty of people in the military that hate the military as well even though they are getting paid to be there.
A popular phrase that I always saw places was FTN Fuck The Navy. It gets scribbled all over bathroom walls and in different places. Being in the military is not about patriotism for most folks in there its just a means to get out of shitty economic conditions.
you know what everyone in the military has in common? they're in the military
so fuck them
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 26, 2023, 01:54 PMHere's another news story that reminds me of a Dead Kennedy's song from the same album...
Canada's euthanasia free-for-all gets wilder: A quarter of people now back lethal injections for the POOR and homeless — critic slams 'shameful' attitude in world's most permissive program (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124293/1-4-Canadians-backs-lethal-injections-POOR-homeless-critics-slam-shameful-attitude.html)
Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor
It's unspeakably grim
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv9b6B8m/image-6487327-1.jpg)
Quote from: jadis on May 26, 2023, 02:12 PMIt's unspeakably grim
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv9b6B8m/image-6487327-1.jpg)
:laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 26, 2023, 02:03 PMyou know what everyone in the military has in common? they're in the military
so fuck them
You are basically a bull in a China teacup shop just thrashing about.
No room for nuisance at all but whatever we can just go our separate ways on this issue. I'm done.
Google removes 'Slavery Simulator' game amid outrage in Brazil (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65714083?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 26, 2023, 03:46 PMGoogle removes 'Slavery Simulator' game amid outrage in Brazil (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65714083?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Reminds me of that gym who advertised on Facebook about their slavery fitness course.
They said 'slavery was tough and so is this course' 😂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54446293
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 26, 2023, 06:14 PM:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Reminds me of that gym who advertised on Facebook about their slavery fitness course.
They said 'slavery was tough and so is this course' 😂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54446293
Speaking of inappropriate advertising related to slavery...
(https://i.postimg.cc/nh3nN9LQ/JT.png) (https://postimages.org/)
South Carolina town blasted for using white models to promote Juneteenth event (https://nypost.com/2023/05/26/white-models-used-to-promote-sc-juneteenth-holiday-sparks-outrage/)
Is that the Netflix documentary?
Missing fraudster Melissa Caddick determined dead after severed foot discovered (https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/missing-fraudster-melissa-caddick-determined-dead-after-severed-foot-discovered-coroner/)Quotea coroner has ruled that it was unlikely she severed her own foot in order to go on the run
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/neuralink-elon-musks-brain-implant-firm-says-u-s-approves-human-tests/
QuoteNeuralink, Elon Musk's brain-implant company, said it received approval from the Food and Drug Administration to conduct human clinical trials.
Musk's startup is developing a small device that will link the brain to a computer, consisting of electrode-laced wires. Placing the device requires drilling into the skull.
nope
Terrifying stuff. I'm sure all his conservative fanboys will be lining up for it. They're against vaccines, but getting brainchipped is just fine as long as it's by a fellow conservative I guess. If a liberal tried this, they'd be all "we'll be mind controlled by the woke brain virus!!!"
Bill Gates is essentially pushing the brainchipping thing too so pretty sure this is a case where both sides are getting played.
as if bill gates is 'the other side's' millionaire
Yeah as if anyone on the modern left/liberal end would embrace being brainchipped by Bill Gates, lmao.
For the record I think anyone who would go along with that, on any "side" is a silly goose. It's just funnier to think about the "side" that bitched and moaned relentlessly about vaccines potentially going along with this because Musky is behind it.
i wonder what it will feel like
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 28, 2023, 12:30 AMYeah as if anyone on the modern left/liberal end would embrace being brainchipped by Bill Gates, lmao.
For the record I think anyone who would go along with that, on any "side" is a silly goose. It's just funnier to think about the "side" that bitched and moaned relentlessly about vaccines potentially going along with this because Musky is behind it.
You know, it wasn't too long ago that there was more vocal opposition to vaccines on the left than the right (although there's been proponents from both sides). RFK Jr., a democrat, is a remnant of that time. It's kind of a curious cultural phenomenon and shift that the anti-corporate/anti-big pharma left now seems to be the most pro-vaccine, while the right, who seemed to be less vocal in supporting the anti-vaccine cause in the past are assigned most of the blame for how popular the sentiment seems to be today. I know it probably happened during Covid, but I'm still not entirely sure how it happened. Here's an article about the issue from 2014:
https://www.realclearscience.com/journal_club/2014/10/20/are_liberals_or_conservatives_more_anti-vaccine_108905.html
Also, I think you're either being hyperbolic for effect, or are a bit out of touch with the thinking of the modern day American right if you think it's even remotely likely that they'll be lining up in droves for this just because they might like Musk. :laughing:
QuoteYou know, it wasn't too long ago that there was more vocal opposition to vaccines on the left than the right
totally
it used to be weird granola types
letting their kids get measles and shit
it was liberals who were all bought in on the vaccines cause autism shit
i think most of the FAR left and right are both vehemently anti-vaccine mandate
i also never heard anyone as pro-vaccine as i am
i think they should be forced at gunpoint
i also think that people who wouldn't quarantine should've been shot
could've saved nearly a million lives in america alone
Oh, for sure. I wasn't saying I definitely thought the right would be down with it, I just think it would be absolutely hilarious if they did.
And yeah, I'm familiar with the more left leaning antivax movement. I'm pretty into new age music and a lot of the people in that scene got into stuff like homeopathy and other pseudoscience that often includes being antivax. The shift definitely happened during Covid.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 28, 2023, 01:40 AMOh, for sure. I wasn't saying I definitely thought the right would be down with it, I just think it would be absolutely hilarious if they did.
And yeah, I'm familiar with the more left leaning antivax movement. I'm pretty into new age music and a lot of the people in that scene got into stuff like homeopathy and other pseudoscience that often includes being antivax. The shift definitely happened during Covid.
i've met people who at least claimed they wouldn't take penicillin even if they had syphilis
AOC shouted down during chaotic NYC town hall: 'You're a piece of shit!' (https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-shouted-down-during-chaotic-nyc-town-hall/) :poop:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 28, 2023, 05:05 PMAOC shouted down during chaotic NYC town hall: 'You're a piece of shit!' (https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-shouted-down-during-chaotic-nyc-town-hall/) :poop:
Lol fuck her district. Well the people that come out to her town halls to troll her. The people that voted her to be re elected obviously trumps the small vocal minority that shows up to her town halls to heckle her.
Accused 'serial sperm donor' doc Morris Wortman dead as plane he built by hand crashes in upstate NY (https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/accused-serial-sperm-donor-dr-morris-wortman-dies-in-ny-plane-crash/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 31, 2023, 01:14 PMAccused 'serial sperm donor' doc Morris Wortman dead as plane he built by hand crashes in upstate NY (https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/accused-serial-sperm-donor-dr-morris-wortman-dies-in-ny-plane-crash/)
QuoteThe preliminary investigation indicates that the wings of the aircraft became detached from the fuselage and fell to the ground landing in an orchard
i bet he was flapping his arms around like crazy after that happened
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 29, 2023, 08:15 AMLol fuck her district. Well the people that come out to her town halls to troll her. The people that voted her to be re elected obviously trumps the small vocal minority that shows up to her town halls to heckle her.
So...are you saying we shouldn't care about minorities? :laughing:
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 03:03 PMi bet he was flapping his arms around like crazy after that happened
His last thoughts "Ah shieet, I was gonna open another clinic this year. Goodbye cruel world..."
Debt Ceiling latest: in case anyone finds the current negotiations confusing, here's the latest development:
The Republicans took the American economy hostage, and although Biden refuses to negotiate with hostage-takers, he has reached a compromise with K McCarthy which is a triumph/capitulation that is a win/resounding defeat for Dems and Republicans alike. Biden is a weak coward who has masterfully manipulated McCathy into watering down his demands so much that K McC imagines he has "won" something of no consequence. It is either a consession which will be fudged away later on in the Biden admin or a dangerous precedent for the next set of debt ceiling negotiations. That's why the extreme wings of each party are outraged, not at each other, but by their own leaders, who have been outwitted/backmailed by their cunning/unprincipled opponents.
So that's all clear really.
One thing I'd like to see in all the media coverage on this drama is a few more hard-fact historical comparisons, i.e. more graphs like:-
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/13899/production/_128352008_optimised-debt-ceiling-nc.png)
QuoteThe Republicans took the American economy hostage
yeah i guess
although i can see some sanity in not raising it as well
i don't know if the debt is going to fuck us up or not
way back when it was ONLY 4 trillion i would've thought the economy would totally collapse if it it got this high
i guess it's really about protecting the american brand
i remember being taught that just printing money like bonkers was lunacy but trump said it outloud - that's the plan
i don't understand it but i think as long as people keep believing that america is king the dollar will stay king and our credit rating will never suffer
or maybe it'll collapse after i'm dead and who gives a fuck
inflation is bad but it's not that bad
i saw on the news some country had 87% in one year
and countries in africa are paying like credit card usury interest to china basically giving them lithium mines and all their resources
i figure we'd just drop nukes and end the world first or idk all the rich people just buy new zealand or something
Quote from: Nimbly9 on May 31, 2023, 03:10 PMSo...are you saying we shouldn't care about minorities? :laughing:
Nope. I guess you haven't seen her town halls. It is filled with old white people trolling her. Her district is fine but this vocal minority of white entitled folks show up to her town halls to troll the hell out of her.
pence is running
i'd love to see him and trump debate
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Jun 01, 2023, 12:02 AMpence is running
i'd love to see him and trump debate
I'm sure it'll be e
lectrifying.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 31, 2023, 10:31 PMNope. I guess you haven't seen her town halls. It is filled with old white people trolling her. Her district is fine but this vocal minority of white entitled folks show up to her town halls to troll the hell out of her.
I watched the last town hall and one of the hecklers that got hauled away looked Hispanic.
QuoteI watched the last town hall and one of the hecklers that got hauled away looked Hispanic.
i think so too actually
hispanics often hate each others and legals hate illegals
not every time but often
too many americans think they're a monolith
Does Pence have a book that's coming out soon or something?
Quote from: SGR on Jun 01, 2023, 12:53 AMDoes Pence have a book that's coming out soon or something?
No, he has a porno coming out, approved by Mother.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Jun 01, 2023, 12:37 AMi think so too actually
hispanics often hate each others and legals hate illegals
not every time but often
too many americans think they're a monolith
The bolded is very much true especially of Cubans in Florida. They come to the country and then it's like they shut the door behind them and all of a sudden hate illegals. I'm like sir you just came over not too long ago and you want to turn your back on your own people? what!?
After awhile I was so over the Debt Ceiling talk. They do this every time lately, they drum up suspense and wait til the last minute and of course they will work out something because they can't shut down the government. It's just to get the average person/voter on pins and needles. It's a bunch of political posturing so that voters remembered who held up the process of coming to an agreement and when it's time to vote they vote against the person that held up the process and get them out of office.
QuoteThe bolded is very much true especially of Cubans in Florida. They come to the country and then it's like they shut the door behind them and all of a sudden hate illegals.
Also, the people who "flee" Cuba are shitheads to begin with. They're not persecuted in Cuba for no reason. We get the greediest and most selfish gusano here. The only reason they run to America is because they're counter-revolutionary cowards.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-65773723
Wow.
Them sherpas are heroes.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 01, 2023, 03:31 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-65773723
Wow.
Them sherpas are heroes.
QuoteHe carried the climber down from 8,500m above sea level over the course of six hours.
six hours with a person on your back at that altitude at a pace fast enough to reach safety
damn
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 01, 2023, 03:31 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-65773723
Wow.
Them sherpas are heroes.
I saw this story about Everest climbers a couple of days ago...
I discovered a trash dump on Mt. Everest — and picked up 440 pounds of it (https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/i-discovered-a-trash-dump-on-mt-everest-and-picked-up-440-pounds-of-it/)Hopefully the one they rescued wasn't one of those litterbugs.
lol @ student loan forgiveness already re-unforgiven
this country
AI-controlled US military drone 'KILLS' its human operator in simulated test 'because it did not like being given new orders' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12151635/AI-controlled-military-drone-KILLS-human-operator-simulated-test.html) 8)
:laughing:
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37761613/quincy-promes-prosecuted-drug-trafficking-netherlands
Just why? You're already a multimillionaire. Why get involved with that stuff?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 03, 2023, 12:15 AMhttps://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37761613/quincy-promes-prosecuted-drug-trafficking-netherlands
Just why? You're already a multimillionaire. Why get involved with that stuff?
maybe he's not
dude gets a trial doesn't he
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 03, 2023, 12:15 AMhttps://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37761613/quincy-promes-prosecuted-drug-trafficking-netherlands
Just why? You're already a multimillionaire. Why get involved with that stuff?
If he is involved, the first thing that comes to my mind is that he has a severe gambling problem and did it for the quick cash.
Trump-appointed federal judge rules Tennessee's anti-drag show law is 'unconstitutional' (https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/03/politics/tennessee-drag-ban-law-unconstitutional/index.html)
Here's a two-fer from Haiti...
Haitian-Chilean citizen sentenced to life in prison for assassination of Haitian President Jovenel Moise (https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/03/world/haiti-president-assassination-rodolphe-jaar-sentenced/index.html)QuoteA dual Haitian-Chilean citizen who pleaded guilty to federal charges related to his involvement in the assassination of Haitian President Jovenel Moise has been sentenced to life in prison, Florida court records show.
Judge Jose E. Martinez handed down the sentence to Rodolphe Jaar on Friday during a 10-minute hearing in Miami. The life sentences for each of three counts are to be served concurrently.
Jaar pleaded guilty in March to three counts – including conspiracy to commit murder or kidnapping outside the United States and providing material support resulting in death, according to the plea agreement.
Moise, 53, was killed in his bedroom in Haiti on July 7, 2021.
I read the first story and wondered why a Haitian-Chilean citizen would be sent to the U.S. for trial and then imprisonment in a U.S. prison instead of being tried and imprisoned in Haiti.
Then I read the following story...
Vigilantes in Haiti strike back at gangsters with brutal street justice (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/vigilantes-haiti-strike-back-gangsters-brutal-street-justice-99822535)
Damn, that's whack.
Stunned nurse: I caught 'witches holding a carcass-eating ritual' on my security camera (https://nypost.com/2023/06/05/stunned-nurse-catches-carcass-eating-witches-on-security-camera/)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jun 06, 2023, 04:07 AMDamn, that's whack.
Stunned nurse: I caught 'witches holding a carcass-eating ritual' on my security camera (https://nypost.com/2023/06/05/stunned-nurse-catches-carcass-eating-witches-on-security-camera/)
Call me a skeptic but I say there's no way that wasn't staged. :laughing:
A road that peels up like a carpet and a bridge that has collapsed... TWICE: Disasters and howlers plague Indian construction projects amid claims of widespread corruption (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12160425/Indian-villagers-able-PICK-newly-laid-street-amid-suspicion-scam.html)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jun 06, 2023, 04:07 AMDamn, that's whack.
Stunned nurse: I caught 'witches holding a carcass-eating ritual' on my security camera (https://nypost.com/2023/06/05/stunned-nurse-catches-carcass-eating-witches-on-security-camera/)
Do they have an onlyfans?
Five mob associates arrested for stealing $2M worth of jewelry in NYC gunpoint heists (https://nypost.com/2023/06/06/five-men-busted-for-stealing-2m-in-jewelry-in-gunpoint-heists/)
Oldfellas. 8)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jun 06, 2023, 12:22 PMCall me a skeptic but I say there's no way that wasn't staged. :laughing:
I thought the exact same thing.
And people are like skinwalkers and wendigos.. fucking idiots :laughing:
Quote from: Guybrush on Jun 07, 2023, 11:44 PMI thought the exact same thing.
And people are like skinwalkers and wendigos.. fucking idiots :laughing:
Same here. :laughing:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/65843586
QuoteSix people, including four children, have been injured in a knife attack in a park in the French alpine town of Annecy
The victims are as young as three, according to French reports which say two children and a man are in a life-threatening condition
The attacker, who was shot and then arrested, is a Syrian man aged 31 with refugee status in Sweden, police say
Maryland funeral home owner charged in murder at child's burial (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/prince-georges-county/trauma-after-trauma-maryland-funeral-home-owner-charged-in-murder-at-10-year-old-girls-burial/3362685/) QuoteA D.C. mother was trying to bury her 10-year-old daughter after a shooter killed the child on Mother's Day — but a deadly shooting carried out by the funeral home owner interrupted her burial service, police and the mother said.
The mother of Arianna Davis, Antionette Belk, said the shooting at Washington National Cemetery on Tuesday killed a family friend, injured a family member and prevented her from seeing her child's casket get lowered into the ground.
"I'm so traumatized that this happened at my daughter's burial site. I didn't even get to lay her down, even to put her in the ground, and another incident happened. This is so traumatizing to me, my children, my whole family. It's trauma after trauma," Belk told News4 on Wednesday.
As the burial ceremony was getting underway in Suitland, Maryland, the owner of the funeral home providing burial services clashed with two people affiliated with a second funeral home with whom he had a long-standing business dispute, police said in an update Wednesday.
"I own this body!" Wilson Chavis yelled, according to Belk.
He spit on the preacher, the grieving mother said.
Several attendees of the burial confronted Chavis. He pulled out a gun, fired two shots and drove away from the cemetery, police said.
Minutes later, police pulled him over and took him into custody.
^This actually happened? It reads like dark comedy.
Only in the US, I guess 😬
Quote from: Guybrush on Jun 10, 2023, 09:27 AM^This actually happened? It reads like dark comedy.
Only in the US, I guess 😬
Yeah, that one is more bizarre than usual but, unfortunately, shootings at funerals and "celebration of life" gatherings are becoming somewhat common in the U.S.
Some good news for a change...
Eldest of four siblings lost in Colombian jungle used skills she learned from grandmother's survival games to keep kin alive for 40 days (https://nypost.com/2023/06/11/eldest-of-four-siblings-lost-in-colombian-learned-survival-skills-from-games-with-grandmother/)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-65845186
QuoteA mountain rescuer has carried a 100kg (220lb) barbell on his shoulders up Ben Nevis to raise money for motor neurone disease (MND) research.
This is an absolutely remarkable achievement. What a machine.
A barbell sounds like one of those things you smack in order to get the receptionist's attention. Ya know, the one that goes DUNG!!
Why would they make a 100 kg one? It makes no god damned sense.
Anyone catch this story? Just crazy. So happy the kids made it out alive. I probably wouldn't last one night in a Colombian jungle, let alone 40!
4 children who survived for 40 days in the Colombian jungle recover as details emerge (https://www.npr.org/2023/06/11/1181575108/colombia-children-survived-jungle-recovery-details#:~:text=BOGOTA%2C%20Colombia%20%E2%80%94%20The%20four%20Indigenous,still%20mesmerized%20by%20their%20saga.)
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Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 12, 2023, 05:27 PM(https://i.ibb.co/3vdDw4B/Screenshot-20230612-162520.jpg)
That's horrible to hear.
Also, what a weird choice for a headline. Chernobyl is already Ukraine's "Chernobyl".
California child prodigy accepts software engineering job at SpaceX (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kairan-quazi-spacex-teenager-santa-clara-california/)QuoteOne of the newest employees at SpaceX has been described as a child prodigy who skipped elementary school and will graduate from college this week at the tender age of 14.
The spacecraft manufacturer offered a software engineering position to Kairan Quazi a month ago, according to an excerpt from an email from the company the teenager posted on Instagram. The Bay Area teenager, who is set to graduate this week from Santa Clara University, will be moving with his mother to Redmond, Washington, next month, so he can take up the SpaceX job, according to a post on LinkedIn.
Kairan said he's excited to join SpaceX, in part because it was "one of the rare companies that did not use my age as an arbitrary and outdated proxy for maturity and ability."
SpaceX will not need to obtain special permission to bring the youngster on board, as he meets the minimum legal age to work under Washington state law.
Quote"one of the rare companies that did not use my age as an arbitrary and outdated proxy for maturity and ability."
This part definitely makes him sound like a 14 year old though. :laughing:
Yeah, ok Young Sheldon.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-england-nottinghamshire-65888114
This seems very strange. Three dead bodies found in the early hours, then three injured in an attack with a vehicle and the incidents are linked?
Very sad and strange.
End in sight for Poland's bus route 666 to Hel (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65908124?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA) :devil:
Guess the "conspiracy theorists" won this time ya'll.
Wuhan lab scientists researching coronavirus were the first to contract COVID-19: report (https://nypost.com/2023/06/13/wuhan-scientists-were-the-first-to-contract-covid-19-report/)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jun 15, 2023, 12:07 AMGuess the "conspiracy theorists" won this time ya'll.
Wuhan lab scientists researching coronavirus were the first to contract COVID-19: report (https://nypost.com/2023/06/13/wuhan-scientists-were-the-first-to-contract-covid-19-report/)
This must just be a coincedence - easily explainable by the fact that those Wuhan scientists were more likely than most to go down the street from the lab to eat some of that bat soup from the wet market that actually contained the virus.
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Quote from: SGR on Jun 15, 2023, 01:37 AMThis must just be a coincedence - easily explainable by the fact that those Wuhan scientists were more likely than most to go down the street from the lab to eat some of that bat soup from the wet market that actually contained the virus.
The source cited in that article is "an investigation by journalists Michael Shellenberger and Matt Taibbi published on the Substack newsletter Public." That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about its validity.
Man who shot himself in his SLEEP when he dreamt he was being robbed and thought he was firing at intruder is facing firearms charges (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12196751/Man-shot-SLEEP-dreamt-robbed-faces-firearms-charges.html)
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 15, 2023, 12:13 PMThe source cited in that article is "an investigation by journalists Michael Shellenberger and Matt Taibbi published on the Substack newsletter Public." That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about its validity.
FBI Director Christopher Wray publicly acknowledged the most likely source of the virus was a lab leak (along with others in our government). So the idea that the labworkers would be the first ones to be infected doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/28/politics/wray-fbi-covid-origins-lab-china/index.html
At the time this all went down, US intelligence agencies and corporate talking heads all dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory. Social media companies would even censor posts positing the idea as true. They, mostly successfully, managed to gaslight the US public on the origins of this virus that ravaged our country. Probably because many of these corporations/social media platforms make so much money with China, if our government had come out at the time and pointed the finger at the mishandling of a lab-grown virus by the Chinese government, the Chinese government probably would've been pissed and a lot of money probably would've been lost. Not to mention, American grants/funds went to that lab, so it would make our government look bad too.
The idea that anyone thought it was more likely that this virus was naturally occuring, and its origin point was a dirty Chinese wet market rather than the Wuhan Virology Lab studying and working on these exact viruses right down the street will never cease to amaze me. This strategy has worked for our government (and many others I'm sure) in the past. At first, you cover up the truth from your people, because if they knew the truth, they'd understandably be absolutely pissed. Then, after a long period of suffering and silence, let the truth slowly come out. By that point, when Americans finally do get the truth, they mostly don't care: "The government lied us into a war?!? Wait...you're talking about the one from 20 (40, 60) years ago? Oh, well yeah, that's unfortunate. The latest report I read though says they identified and corrected mistakes in their operating procedure that allowed this to happen, and that it won't happen again in the future..."
Quote from: SGR on Jun 16, 2023, 06:56 PMFBI Director Christopher Wray publicly acknowledged the most likely source of the virus was a lab leak (along with others in our government). So the idea that the labworkers would be the first ones to be infected doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/28/politics/wray-fbi-covid-origins-lab-china/index.html
Wray certainly seems like a better source. It makes me wonder why the NY Post decided to lead with a Substack newsletter reference.
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 17, 2023, 03:35 AMWray certainly seems like a better source. It makes me wonder why the NY Post decided to lead with a Substack newsletter reference.
I think it's because the Substack source/investigation is the only one making the claims (currently at least) that the lab workers were the first ones to have the virus. They did, in the NY Post article, link to Wray's claim that the virus most likely originated in a lab, but that is relatively old news.
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 17, 2023, 03:35 AMWray certainly seems like a better source. It makes me wonder why the NY Post decided to lead with a Substack newsletter reference.
The only sense in which the FBI director is a good source on anything is that once he is forced to acknowledged something potentially uncomfortable it means that deniability is no longer plausible.
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Penn State professor Themis Matsoukas accused of performing sexual acts with his dog: 'I do it to blow off steam' (https://nypost.com/2023/06/14/penn-state-professor-themis-matsoukas-accused-of-performing-sexual-acts-with-his-dog/)
^ the most normal and least sexually perverted greek guy
Fucking hell
@Toy Revolver didn't know you were Greek.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 17, 2023, 05:12 PMFucking hell @Toy Revolver didn't know you were Greek.
Aww, TR just gave 'em a little tug, that's all 👌
Now this is an ironic way to go
Quote from: Jwb on Jun 20, 2023, 04:13 AMNow this is an ironic way to go
I've been following this one closely since I heard about it this morning. Crazy that 100+ years later, the Titanic might take another 5 lives.
This is the equivalent of a terrorist group flying a plane into a sight-seeing bus full of eager tourists that just so happened to be driving by the new world trade center building in NYC.
There aren't many more terrifying ways to die than being trapped at the bottom of the ocean in a little box like that, knowing you've got two days or so of oxygen.
I wonder what they're doing now? What would you do in their situation?
I hope a miracle happens.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 20, 2023, 12:08 PMThere aren't many more terrifying ways to die than being trapped at the bottom of the ocean in a little box like that, knowing you've got two days or so of oxygen.
I wonder what they're doing now? What would you do in their situation?
I hope a miracle happens.
Lost communication and sub didn't come to the surface. I'm guessing they are all dead and were killed instantly in an implosion of the sub.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jun 20, 2023, 02:06 PMLost communication and sub didn't come to the surface. I'm guessing they are all dead and were killed instantly in an implosion of the sub.
Why would it just implode?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 20, 2023, 02:09 PMWhy would it just implode?
Probably from an unnoticed flaw in the hull which caused it to implode from extreme pressure.
'Deeply worrisome': Submersible scientist fears OceanGate may have suffered catastrophic implosion (https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/deeply-worrisome-submersible-scientist-fears-oceangate-may-have-suffered-catastrophic-implosion/news-story/7acfe1faa3a7a573cccf1e7bed6f80f8)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097
QuoteControversial influencer Andrew Tate has been charged in Romania with rape, human trafficking and forming an organised crime group to sexually exploit women.
His brother Tristan and two associates also face charges. All have denied the allegations.
Obviously innocent until proven guilty but I did find it a bit strange that he lives in Romania. I can't think of a single reason why anyone with his wealth would want to live there. But if you asked me to think of countries associated with sex trafficking, it would be top of the list. Could be totally innocent but that does seem odd.
I know next to nothing about this guy BTW, other than he's a controversial person who has been accused of all sorts.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 20, 2023, 05:21 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097
Obviously innocent until proven guilty but I did find it a bit strange that he lives in Romania. I can't think of a single reason why anyone with his wealth would want to live there. But if you asked me to think of countries associated with sex trafficking, it would be top of the list. Could be totally innocent but that does seem odd.
I know next to nothing about this guy BTW, other than he's a controversial person who has been accused of all sorts.
I don't know much about Romania and I usually think of Thailand when I think of sexpats from Western nations but I found this video of him talking about why he moved to Romania...
Looks like wreckage from the sub has been found.
RIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQY83vTrkoc&pp=ygUGcnVzc2lh
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Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 22, 2023, 09:23 PMLooks like wreckage from the sub has been found.
RIP.
I don't feel sorry for those rich assholes pay your fair share of taxes!
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 24, 2023, 07:34 AMI don't feel sorry for those rich assholes pay your fair share of taxes!
Only two of them were billionaires and one of them was a teenage student?
But either way a shit thing to say especially after your problem with TR and his military post.
We're coming to get you! Wagner forces head to Moscow as tanks are spotted on highways and oil depot goes up in flames as militia's chief Prigozhin mocks Putin call for 'traitors' to give themselves up (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12229575/Wagner-forces-head-Moscow-Prigozhin-mocks-Putin-call-traitors-up.html)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 24, 2023, 12:43 PMOnly two of them were billionaires and one of them was a teenage student?
But either way a shit thing to say especially after your problem with TR and his military post.
Nah I don't care about rich people dying that don't contribute to society and just hoard all their wealth. I do feel bad for the teenage kid though
He didn't even wanna go but he was only doing it for his dad. Sure it's sad that there was a lost of lives but honestly they knew what they were doing. They signed waivers saying that there was a possibility of death.
Also you can't compare the two scenarios so I don't know why you brought that up. The TR stuff.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 24, 2023, 09:32 PMNah I don't care about rich people dying that don't contribute to society and just hoard all their wealth. I do feel bad for the teenage kid though
He didn't even wanna go but he was only doing it for his dad. Sure it's sad that there was a lost of lives but honestly they knew what they were doing. They signed waivers saying that there was a possibility of death.
Also you can't compare the two scenarios so I don't know why you brought that up. The TR stuff.
I compared them because they were both callous and unnecessary. Posting only to basically say 'fuck them' was obnoxious.
People who join the military know they could die too, doesn't mean what TR said about them wasn't shit either.
Woman chases sister's stolen car, shoots two people inside it after it crashes and catches fire (https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/francesca-jones-accused-of-shooting-at-burning-car-at-end-of-chase/)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 24, 2023, 11:00 PMI compared them because they were both callous and unnecessary. Posting only to basically say 'fuck them' was obnoxious.
People who join the military know they could die too, doesn't mean what TR said about them wasn't shit either.
No there is a difference between saying fuck them and the extremes of what TR said. The two posts are not comparable in anyway at all.
Another disgusting juxtaposition is that 5 rich people got so much media coverage while 500 migrants near Greece were barely covered.
Harvard behavioral scientist who studies dishonesty is accused of fabricating data in multiple research papers (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12230013/Harvard-behavioral-scientist-studies-dishonesty-accused-fabricating-data.html)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jun 25, 2023, 01:18 PMHarvard behavioral scientist who studies dishonesty is accused of fabricating data in multiple research papers (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12230013/Harvard-behavioral-scientist-studies-dishonesty-accused-fabricating-data.html)
😂😂😂
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 25, 2023, 07:50 AMAnother disgusting juxtaposition is that 5 rich people got so much media coverage while 500 migrants near Greece were barely covered.
:clap: That's an excellent point, DJ !
Also, in matters of life and death, the media, the rescuers and (let's admit our own role) the audience, don't like to mention the cost that goes into search-and-rescue efforts. I wonder if a calculation is ever made behind the scenes between these scenarios: innocent people caught in an earthquake or hurricane through no fault of their own/ people indulging their whim for extreme tourism and going to dangerous places for fun.
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jun 25, 2023, 03:29 PM:clap: That's an excellent point, DJ !
Also, in matters of life and death, the media, the rescuers and (let's admit our own role) the audience, don't like to mention the cost that goes into search-and-rescue efforts. I wonder if a calculation is ever made behind the scenes between these scenarios: innocent people caught in an earthquake or hurricane through no fault of their own/ people indulging their whim for extreme tourism and going to dangerous places for fun.
Yes that's a good point I'm curious about as well. Also the military heard when it first exploded but kept it hush hush or maybe they didn't know what the explosion was exactly. Also we live on the internet me saying what I said isnt as bad as all the memes and jokes that were posted online WHILE they were still looking for the rich billionaires.
687 migrants tipped over on a boat trying to get a new life for themselves and only 187 were rescued. 500 are still missing/presumed dead and it varies from men women and children but we are supposed to feel sorry for these extreme tourtists that signed a waiver saying death is a possibility?
I'm sympathtic to yeah a life lost is still sad but at the end of the day. I don't feel all that bad about those 5 that passed away just the teenage son that didn't want to go in the first place.
You keep on saying you don't feel bad because they knew they might die yet you bring up the migrants. Do you think they weren't aware they could die?
Its shit that anyone has died. I don't see why it was necessary to post what you did.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 25, 2023, 04:05 PMAlso we live on the internet me saying what I said isnt as bad as all the memes and jokes that were posted online WHILE they were still looking for the rich billionaires.
This is an excellent point. The only social media sites I'm allowed to use are Tumblr and Reddit, and I saw so many terrible memes about it. I can't imagine how bad it was on Twitter. I always imagine the people behind their computers are just gleefully watching coverage of these awful events like that Michael Jackson popcorn gif while thinking up their latest clever little meme to post on the internet for some imagined clout.
It's exhausting and kind of depressing that this is how people process this stuff.
I saw plenty of lefties on Twitter that were actually happy that this happened to these people, because they were rich. What do you think Batty or even TH would say about it if they were here? That's a pretty significant difference between what DJ said about the Titan people and what TR said about the death of veterans. DJ said he doesn't care about the death of these 5 (besides the teen), and that's fine if you don't I guess, but TR actually expressed joy that veterans were killing themselves.
The reason people are talking about the Titan sub story and not the migrant story is that the news and media companies picked up the Titan sub story and ran more pieces on it - because in essence, it's just going to get more clicks and generate more revenue. You can take almost any story about a tragedy, and then redirect to something worse and claim: "And I'm supposed to care/feel sorry about this?". E.g. As an American, I could say: "Almost 100,000 US citizens die from Fentanyl overdoses a year, and fentanyl is the leading cause of death for Americans under 50, but I'm supposed to care about 500 European migrants on the other side of the world?"
People can only muster the attention to care about so many things, and it is unfortunate that we can't care about every tragedy - but that's just the reality of it. But to say that you don't care about these people dying because they were rich, didn't pay enough taxes, or didn't contribute to society does seem callous. I also don't understand why the assumption is made that they're assholes who didn't contribute to society. You honestly don't think that they donated all kinds of money to charitable causes (probably even causes for the assistance of refugees)? It just comes off as a left-wing simplification of "Rich people = bad" when it's just more nuanced than that. People are individuals with their own strengths and faults, and to just evaluate their character or value to society based on just their net worth seems shortsighted, to say the least.
To be clear, if the story of the Titanic wasn't a pet obsession of mine, I probably wouldn't really care about this missing sub story either. There's just too much going on every day in the world to pay much attention to a story like that. But I wouldn't couch my lack of caring about the story on the fact that the people who died were rich. Only so much time in the day, can only be interested enough to keep up and care about so many things.
Edit: Can't be bothered we are pretty much in agreement anyway, yes I see your points SGR.
Newsweek - Hunter Biden Allegedly Threatened Chinese Official With His Father's Power (https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-allegedly-threatened-chinese-official-fathers-power-1808567)
Quote from: SGR on Jun 25, 2023, 09:35 PMI saw plenty of lefties on Twitter that were actually happy that this happened to these people, because they were rich. What do you think Batty or even TH would say about it if they were here? That's a pretty significant difference between what DJ said about the Titan people and what TR said about the death of veterans. DJ said he doesn't care about the death of these 5 (besides the teen), and that's fine if you don't I guess, but TR actually expressed joy that veterans were killing themselves.
The reason people are talking about the Titan sub story and not the migrant story is that the news and media companies picked up the Titan sub story and ran more pieces on it - because in essence, it's just going to get more clicks and generate more revenue. You can take almost any story about a tragedy, and then redirect to something worse and claim: "And I'm supposed to care/feel sorry about this?". E.g. As an American, I could say: "Almost 100,000 US citizens die from Fentanyl overdoses a year, and fentanyl is the leading cause of death for Americans under 50, but I'm supposed to care about 500 European migrants on the other side of the world?"
People can only muster the attention to care about so many things, and it is unfortunate that we can't care about every tragedy - but that's just the reality of it. But to say that you don't care about these people dying because they were rich, didn't pay enough taxes, or didn't contribute to society does seem callous. I also don't understand why the assumption is made that they're assholes who didn't contribute to society. You honestly don't think that they donated all kinds of money to charitable causes (probably even causes for the assistance of refugees)? It just comes off as a left-wing simplification of "Rich people = bad" when it's just more nuanced than that. People are individuals with their own strengths and faults, and to just evaluate their character or value to society based on just their net worth seems shortsighted, to say the least.
To be clear, if the story of the Titanic wasn't a pet obsession of mine, I probably wouldn't really care about this missing sub story either. There's just too much going on every day in the world to pay much attention to a story like that. But I wouldn't couch my lack of caring about the story on the fact that the people who died were rich. Only so much time in the day, can only be interested enough to keep up and care about so many things.
Yeah I get all that but it was a sick obsession that media had to the point of having a death counter well timer right next to the reporter's head about oxygen left. It was reminiscent of when baby Jessica was trapped down the well in the 80s.
Montreal has the worst air quality of any major city in the world right now, which would be funnier to me if I wasn't a bit worried about my mom
Our excuse is forest fires though. What's up in your neck of the woods JJ? Still doing the whole industrial revolution thing over there, with soot-covered chimney sweeps?
(https://i.ibb.co/Nrk0pfc/Whats-App-Image-2023-06-25-at-19-22-43.jpg)
That shocks me. I'd like to see how it's worked out and what affects it.
The only thing I can think of is being in the centre of the country, people commuting through to get to places but that doesn't seem like enough. I can't believe it's worse air quality than London.
Baffled tbh.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 26, 2023, 06:52 AMYeah I get all that but it was a sick obsession that media had to the point of having a death counter well timer right next to the reporter's head about oxygen left. It was reminiscent of when baby Jessica was trapped down the well in the 80s.
I don't disagree. Kinda reminds me of the Covid death count ticker so many news stations had during 2020.
Ethics in media and news is a little wanting. They look for and amplify stories that inspire the strongest emotional reactions among the audience as that will get clicks and make money. It's also adjacent to social media algorithms, the goal of keeping you engaged, regardless of how it might affect your long-term mental health.
Quote from: jadis on Jun 26, 2023, 08:41 AMMontreal has the worst air quality of any major city in the world right now, which would be funnier to me if I wasn't a bit worried about my mom
Our excuse is forest fires though. What's up in your neck of the woods JJ? Still doing the whole industrial revolution thing over there, with soot-covered chimney sweeps?
(https://i.ibb.co/Nrk0pfc/Whats-App-Image-2023-06-25-at-19-22-43.jpg)
I understand this more now, thought it was recorded over a longer period of time but it is literally changing all the time.
No idea then tbh.
As you mentioned the soot and industrial revolution, there is a place here called The Black Country which is called that because it was so black and sooty from the industry.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Griffiths%27_Guide_to_the_iron_trade_of_Great_Britain_an_elaborate_review_of_the_iron_%28and%29_coal_trades_for_last_year%2C_addresses_and_names_of_all_ironmasters%2C_with_a_list_of_blast_furnaces%2C_iron_%2814761790294%29.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg)
One of the local dishes is called 'faggots' BTW.
Going off in France isn't it 😮
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 01, 2023, 07:05 PMGoing off in France isn't it 😮
Macron dances at Elton John concert as France burns amid ongoing violence (https://www.foxnews.com/world/macron-dances-elton-john-concert-france-burns-ongoing-violence)QuoteNew video posted to social media caught French President Emmanuel Macron enjoying the Elton John concert in Paris on Thursday while the city and the country witnessed another night of violent protests over a fatal police shooting.
The video, shot at the Accor Arena where Elton John played for three nights as part of his Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour, showed Macron tapping his foot and smiling while listening to the hit song "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting."
Good song imo.
NYC spent $9M in taxpayer dollars sending $5 bills with surveys — but most were thrown in the trash (https://nypost.com/2023/07/01/nyc-spent-9m-sending-out-5-bills-with-mental-health-surveys/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 01, 2023, 11:49 PMNYC spent $9M in taxpayer dollars sending $5 bills with surveys — but most were thrown in the trash (https://nypost.com/2023/07/01/nyc-spent-9m-sending-out-5-bills-with-mental-health-surveys/)
Yeah I saw that on the news. Most idiotic and ineffective way to get surveys done. Who the fuck greenlit that idea and thought it would work the way they wanted?
I feel like something else is going on with that situation. They wanted to get rid of money for some sort of reason and hide behind a failed survery initiative. A strange way of money laundering but it feels like it.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 07, 2023, 11:33 AMYeah I saw that on the news. Most idiotic and ineffective way to get surveys done. Who the fuck greenlit that idea and thought it would work the way they wanted?
I feel like something else is going on with that situation. They wanted to get rid of money for some sort of reason and hide behind a failed survery initiative. A strange way of money laundering but it feels like it.
It does seem crazy and suspicious at the same time. I imagine that everyone should know that most people are going to throw any letters that look like "junk mail" in the trash without bothering to open it first. Probably would be a good way to scam some taxpayer money.
Now health professionals are urged to call vaginas 'bonus holes' to avoid offending trans or non-binary patients
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12274419/Now-health-professionals-urged-call-vaginas-bonus-holes-avoid-offending-patients.html)
IMO conservative outlets shouldn't be the only ones to report on this kind of contemptible idiocy
Quote from: jadis on Jul 08, 2023, 03:38 PMNow health professionals are urged to call vaginas 'bonus holes' to avoid offending trans or non-binary patients
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12274419/Now-health-professionals-urged-call-vaginas-bonus-holes-avoid-offending-patients.html)
IMO conservative outlets shouldn't be the only ones to report on this kind of contemptible idiocy
If the US Democrats start bleeding support from women because of stuff like this, the election won't be pretty for them.
Quote from: jadis on Jul 08, 2023, 03:38 PMNow health professionals are urged to call vaginas 'bonus holes' to avoid offending trans or non-binary patients
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12274419/Now-health-professionals-urged-call-vaginas-bonus-holes-avoid-offending-patients.html)
IMO conservative outlets shouldn't be the only ones to report on this kind of contemptible idiocy
Title of that article sounds like an onion article.
Is this happening in more than one place, or is it just whining about stuff one crazy charity said?
They literally cite that right wing anti-trans person who got juice dumped on her in New Zealand, such an unbiased and reliable source.
I don't mean to roast you all but please think critically about this. I think that terminology is dumb too, but it's 100 percent a non-issue unless someone can prove that a substantial amount of health professionals are urging for this.
Conservative outlets are the only ones reporting because they think any random trans person saying something dumb is a gotcha they can use to debase the entire community. No one else cares about what one charity said.
Also I've been part of the trans community for two decades and I can tell you right here that literally nobody is offended by the word vagina lmao.
It's an issue inasmuch as it is representative of a broader and very real phenomenon: twisting language into absurdity and losing touch with reality to accommodate the (imagined or real) sensibilities of one or another underdog minority group.
Quote from: jadis on Jul 08, 2023, 05:29 PMIt's an issue inasmuch as it is representative of a broader and very real phenomenon: twisting language into absurdity and losing touch with reality to accommodate the (imagined or real) sensibilities of one or another underdog minority group.
Whatever, I personally don't see how some people being overly cautious with inclusive language is really an issue of world-shattering importance. I've never had anything like this impact my life in any way and somehow I doubt you have either.
Quote from: jadis on Jul 08, 2023, 05:29 PMIt's an issue inasmuch as it is representative of a broader and very real phenomenon: twisting language into absurdity and losing touch with reality to accommodate the (imagined or real) sensibilities of one or another underdog minority group.
Fun fact: the word "silly" used to mean "holy". Language is always evolving.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1789005/just-stop-oil-george-osborne-thea-rogers-wedding-orange-confetti
Not much of a protest is it? Throwing confetti on the bride and groom at a wedding?
I expected orange paint or something unpleasant.
Bwahaha. Be careful what you Tweet.
Indigenous tribe wants Ben & Jerry's to return 'stolen' land their HQ is built on (https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/indigenous-tribe-interested-in-taking-back-stolen-land-ben-jerrys-hq-is-built-on-mount-rushmore-vermont-abenaki-don-stevens)
^ in this case it's silly and funny but more and more I'm seeing this leftist, anti-colonial discourse of "indigeneity" turning into something completely sinister, to a fundamentalist cred that says that only those with "native roots" to some place deserve to live there and the rest are colonial settlers and should be ethnically cleansed to achieve justice.
In the US and Canada no one takes it seriously and it's just goofy land acknowledgement shit. But let's say in the context of Israel, this discourse is the progressive and radical dressing on exterminationist intent. "Your Farhud/Holocaust survivor grandparents were colonial settlers who displaced indigenous Palestinians and this is why we shall liberate our native land from your Jewish yoke"
I really love Franz Fanon, have taught his stuff etc. But the stuff his acolytes post on twitter is literally undistinguishable from the Christchurch shooter's manifesto.
Can't help following the BBC presenter thing. Seeing the BBC live-blogging their own sex scandal is really something
Quote from: jadis on Jul 09, 2023, 07:26 PMCan't help following the BBC presenter thing. Seeing the BBC live-blogging their own sex scandal is really something
Who do you think it is? :o
Based purely on the prior scandal, I'd hazard it's Philip Schofield
But it's a crapshoot. Also I don't know that many. Lineker obv, Jeremy Vine cause Sean Lock had a fantastic bit deriding him, Schofield I know cause he was among the presenters Charlie Brooker used to make fun of in his Wipe series. I probably know a few more cause they're big on Twitter or something
Can't be Schofield as he wasn't on the BBC for them to suspend him. Apparently it's a news reporter and it will be a big name, according to a journalist I saw teasing the information on Twitter.
Watch it be some Z list nobody now. Although £35,000 suggests it is a big name.
The BBC carries on disgracing itself.
Got some 'Darwin Award' winners here...
Boat Jumping (https://nypost.com/2023/07/08/boatjumping-tiktok-trends-claim-4-lives-in-6-months-in-alabama/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 09, 2023, 09:22 PMGot some 'Darwin Award' winners here...
Boat Jumping (https://nypost.com/2023/07/08/boatjumping-tiktok-trends-claim-4-lives-in-6-months-in-alabama/)
I've got TikTok now. I don't really understand it but this is pretty much why I got it, to see these viral type videos. Not necessarily people dying but shit like Milk Crate Challenge.
Basically want to see what all the fuss is about but so far on there it just seems to be Gen Z types miming film quotes and song lyrics. I don't get it.
Anyway RIP.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 09, 2023, 09:26 PMI've got TikTok now. I don't really understand it but this is pretty much why I got it, to see these viral type videos. Not necessarily people dying but shit like Milk Crate Challenge.
Basically want to see what all the fuss is about but so far on there it just seems to be Gen Z types miming film quotes and song lyrics. I don't get it.
Anyway RIP.
There are some interesting things on TikTok outside of just the viral trends and the dancing videos that pop up.
Another 'Darwin Award' winner...
Minnesota man found dead in freezer, hid inside to evade authorities (https://nypost.com/2023/07/10/minnesota-man-brandon-lee-buschman-found-dead-in-freezer-hid-inside-to-evade-authorities-police/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 10, 2023, 01:44 PMAnother 'Darwin Award' winner...
Minnesota man found dead in freezer, hid inside to evade authorities (https://nypost.com/2023/07/10/minnesota-man-brandon-lee-buschman-found-dead-in-freezer-hid-inside-to-evade-authorities-police/)
"Freeze! Oh, he has done."
RIP
Quote from: jadis on Jul 09, 2023, 09:16 PMBased purely on the prior scandal, I'd hazard it's Philip Schofield
But it's a crapshoot. Also I don't know that many. Lineker obv, Jeremy Vine cause Sean Lock had a fantastic bit deriding him, Schofield I know cause he was among the presenters Charlie Brooker used to make fun of in his Wipe series. I probably know a few more cause they're big on Twitter or something
https://twitter.com/CitizenBrookes/status/1678455120932085788
???
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 10, 2023, 08:19 PMhttps://twitter.com/CitizenBrookes/status/1678455120932085788
???
What a mess...
Quote from: jadis on Jul 09, 2023, 01:43 PM
In the US and Canada no one takes it seriously and it's just goofy land acknowledgement shit. But let's say in the context of Israel, this discourse is the progressive and radical dressing on exterminationist intent. "Your Farhud/Holocaust survivor grandparents were colonial settlers who displaced indigenous Palestinians and this is why we shall liberate our native land from your Jewish yoke"
Funny you say this, I just had a conversation two days ago with someone about how they feel that native Americans squandered their reparations and the land that was given to them. He essentially reduced them to stereotypes calling them drunks and lazy. He's always advocating for all black everything and for black people to get reparations which includes obtaining land.
Wait I thought the presenter got uncanceled and it's the tabloids that are bad now? What's that?
Also lol at "they"... as if women do stuff like this
(https://i.ibb.co/SckTjgD/IMG-0328.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZSQsjrR)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 11, 2023, 12:56 PMFunny you say this, I just had a conversation two days ago with someone about how they feel that native Americans squandered their reparations and the land that was given to them. He essentially reduced them to stereotypes calling them drunks and lazy. He's always advocating for all black everything and for black people to get reparations which includes obtaining land.
That's pretty fascinating and makes a lot of sense (that someone would take it to this direction, not the actual stuff he said obv)
In general, every theory that's good and just in the abstract (communism, anti-colonialism etc) becomes informed by and enmeshed with old prejudices the moment you try to put it into practice.
Quote from: jadis on Jul 11, 2023, 06:40 PMThat's pretty fascinating and makes a lot of sense (that someone would take it to this direction, not the actual stuff he said obv)
In general, every theory that's good and just in the abstract (communism, anti-colonialism etc) becomes informed by and enmeshed with old prejudices the moment you try to put it into practice.
Yeah he can be a bit extreme. He is almost like a black supremist and he wants segregation essentially. He feels like black people don't group up together enough to support each other. Orthodox Jews do and so do latinos. As far as supporting their local businesses and keeping the dollar within their community but black people spend their dollar elsewhere.
Who is Huw Edwards? (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/12/who-is-huw-edwards-bridgend-boy-who-became-one-of-uks-most-familiar-faces)
Yeah never heard of him.
The BBC isn't a commercial media organisation, so it's less ratings-obssessed than some others, I imagine. They don't necessarily promote the greatest celebrities among tv presenters, but they often show decades-long loyalty to certain personalities. Nature program? Where's David Attenborough. Science item? Call Brian Cox. This guy, Huw Edwards apparently won the prestigious slot in the BBC for state-occasion narrator. For years, it used to be a guy called Richard Dimbleby:-
QuoteDimbleby's reputation was built upon his ability to describe events clearly yet with a sense of the drama and poetry of the many state occasions he covered. [coronation of QE II, funeral of JFK and Churchill, etc.] He could also improvise extensively if there were delays in the schedule. His audience always felt that they were in "safe hands", especially in Panorama programmes like the one dealing with the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Inevitably, because of his close association with establishment figures and royalty, some people criticised his "hushed tones" style of speaking at state occasions, claiming he was pompous.
I suspect Huw Edwards has similar talents and status: not so much popular with, as familiar to the viewing public.
Quote from: jadis on Jul 13, 2023, 07:03 AMWho is Huw Edwards? (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/12/who-is-huw-edwards-bridgend-boy-who-became-one-of-uks-most-familiar-faces)
Yeah never heard of him.
He is very well known here.
It seems like the BBC are not so much to blame in this case as The Sun, however the BBC still reported on this knowing it was rubbish?
Seems Huw is a victim of the media here. Apparently he's in a bad way in hospital now in the midst of a mental health crisis.
FBI finds skulls, other human remains decorating Kentucky man's apartment (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/14/us/kentucky-human-remains/index.html)QuoteWhen FBI agents arrived at James Nott's Kentucky apartment with a search warrant on Tuesday, they asked if anyone else was home.
"Only my dead friends," Nott replied.
What an answer :laughing:
Reminds me of a call to the police here in the uk where a guy had killed his wife and they said how many people are in your house including you and he goes "two, well one now I suppose".
More maps! More charts! More historical context! That's what I usually want from the online news coverage that I watch. If anyone else feels the same, here's a map of the original 1949 NATO countries (USA and Canada not shown):-
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/nato-european-expansion/img/nato-1949.jpg?v2)
...to compare with the picture of NATO today:-
(https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2023/07/11/b0f698b0-b3cb-4a9e-ac73-c43054c3690f/thumbnail/640x360/8c3784fe347c9bf7eff6c8a47f7b7ad1/nato-member-map-7.jpg?v=b9ad248140817530b57bedd1355bcccb)
What were once seen as Soviet satellites or Cold-War buffer zone countries (Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania) have really pushed back on Russian influence in Europe. And with Sweden now joining, it's clear at a glance that the once international Baltic Sea is now just a NATO lake. Bet Putin's not too happy.
RFK Jr. says COVID was 'ethnically targeted' to spare Jews (https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/)
And the Chinese too. Misleading headline!
like the damn joker (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/19/us-soldier-north-korea-border-travis-king)
After all these years they may finally get Tupac's killer. They got a warrant and searched his uncle's house. The potential killer's uncle.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/18/las-vegas-police-conduct-search-warrant-tied-to-tupac-shakur-murder/
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 20, 2023, 08:05 AMAfter all these years they may finally get Tupac's killer. They got a warrant and searched his uncle's house. The potential killer's uncle.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/18/las-vegas-police-conduct-search-warrant-tied-to-tupac-shakur-murder/
I know it's not solved in a legal sense but doesn't everybody know who did it? Orlando Anderson aka 'Baby Lane' and his uncle is Keefe D who I'm guessing is who they've raided.
Anderson died in 1998 so this is never gonna be solved.
Leon Black agreed $62.5mn deal over potential Epstein-related claims
(https://www.ft.com/content/2d5bed01-997a-4761-b1ad-bfbe94b0c93d)
@Jwb No clue why Weiner agreed to go on this show. Not sure what he expected.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 20, 2023, 12:50 PMI know it's not solved in a legal sense but doesn't everybody know who did it? Orlando Anderson aka 'Baby Lane' and his uncle is Keefe D who I'm guessing is who they've raided.
Anderson died in 1998 so this is never gonna be solved.
Oh I guess I didn't know that. Yeah they probably raided the uncle's spot.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/weather/north-carolina-tornado-pfizer-climate/index.html
Honestly deserved screw Pfizer
The Clintons did a ton of shady shit before Bill ran for POTUS. Less than 10% of the kill list could be true and it would still be pretty damning.
So weird that you asked me lol. I was literally just listening to that tonight. I didn't finish it but i made to the hillary kill list shit. I'm gonna finish it tomorrow at work.
The thing is, i actually thought he did a good job at triggering the host and basically combating a lot of the shit they were saying in the beginning of the interview, but yeah when you have been outed for sexting with a 15 year old that is an obvious low hanging fruit that is always going to be exploited. I think they actually sorta let him skate by on that for the most part from what I've seen so far. Maybe they grill him on it at the end in the portion i haven't seen, but assuming that's not the case i would say they definitely could have pressed him on it more. Like they asked him some basic questions about it, he gave very strange and convoluted answers, and then they would just move on.
All things considered though, who would be talking about anthony weiner without an appearance like this? Not like he has much of a reputation to protect.
Also, he looks like anthony cumia's scrawny little brother lol.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jul 23, 2023, 09:39 PMThe Clintons did a ton of shady shit before Bill ran for POTUS. Less than 10% of the kill list could be true and it would still be pretty damning.
im too lazy to research it but just listing a bunch of names isn't very compelling to me. It's true that less than 10% of the list would still be damming. If you can prove they murdered even a single person it would be damning. That's why you don't list 50 names off without getting into the details. That's just posturing. A serious person would pick a single case or maybe a few select cases that they could spell out in detail to illustrate their point. Rather than just dropping a list on you that is meant to be daunting by its sheer size rather than stimulate any genuine discussion or examination.
She'll give you tha business...
Taylor Schabusiness gives sick description of allegedly dismembering, sexually abusing lover's body (https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/taylor-schabusiness-describes-allegedly-dismembering-abusing-lovers-body/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 27, 2023, 01:44 AMShe'll give you tha business...
Taylor Schabusiness gives sick description of allegedly dismembering, sexually abusing lover's body (https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/taylor-schabusiness-describes-allegedly-dismembering-abusing-lovers-body/)
I feel like Wisconsin is over represented in terms of crazy shit like this.
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 27, 2023, 02:37 AMI feel like Wisconsin is over represented in terms of crazy shit like this.
Yeah, true. Between Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer (and probably more I'm not thinking of) it does seem like my state has a knack for producing particularly messed up sickos.
Probably something in the cheese.
Houston Independent School District to eliminate librarians, turn some libraries into discipline centers at 28 campuses (https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2023/07/26/hisd-to-eliminate-librarians-turn-libraries-into-discipline-centers-at-28-campuses/)
Quote from: jadis on Jul 28, 2023, 03:33 PMHouston Independent School District to eliminate librarians, turn some libraries into discipline centers at 28 campuses (https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2023/07/26/hisd-to-eliminate-librarians-turn-libraries-into-discipline-centers-at-28-campuses/)
Houston, we have a problem.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 27, 2023, 01:44 AMShe'll give you tha business...
Taylor Schabusiness gives sick description of allegedly dismembering, sexually abusing lover's body (https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/taylor-schabusiness-describes-allegedly-dismembering-abusing-lovers-body/)
This sounds a lot like the final scene in NEKROmantic 2.
Where..
Spoiler
They're having sex and she's riding him and pinning his arms down. She then takes a knife and cuts his head off, lotsa blood. She attaches a rubber band around his dick to keep the corpse from losing its erection, then puts the head of her favorite corpse where her lovers head used to be
Maybe she's a fan of the movie 🙂
Remi Lucidi, daredevil who climbed towers around the world, reportedly falls to his death from Hong Kong high-rise (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remi-lucidi-dies-age-30-daredevil-falls-high-rise-hong-kong/)QuoteThe cause of his death would have to be verified by an autopsy, they added.
I'll go with High-velocity cement poisoning as the cause of his death.
If the only person you could hurt was yourself then OK but there is a chance he could have fell on top of someone just walking past going about their day, not to mention the effect it could have on the poor person who had to mop him up.
RIP though.
First photos of Chinese-run lab in California experimenting with dangerous viruses and engineering mice (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12358447/First-photos-Chinese-run-lab-California-experimenting-dangerous-viruses-engineering-mice.html)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 31, 2023, 11:19 PMRemi Lucidi, daredevil who climbed towers around the world, reportedly falls to his death from Hong Kong high-rise (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remi-lucidi-dies-age-30-daredevil-falls-high-rise-hong-kong/)
I'll go with High-velocity cement poisoning as the cause of his death.
Was he vaxxed??
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lizzo-dancers-weight-shamed-pressured-touch-nude-performer-lawsuit-rcna95161
Dang Lizzo I'm disappointed. She is body positivity queen but doing this shady stuff behind closed doors. Fat shaming dancers and sexually harassing them.
She sounds absolutely awful lol.
A lil something I saw on twitter helpfully illustrating the Lizzo story
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2iYd3MW0AArNGQ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Foot Fondler Nabbed in Lake Tahoe: Bizarre Crime Spree Halted (https://hoodline.com/2023/08/foot-fondler-nabbed-in-lake-tahoe-bizarre-crime-spree-halted/)
Utter filth.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 31, 2023, 11:19 PMRemi Lucidi, daredevil who climbed towers around the world, reportedly falls to his death from Hong Kong high-rise (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remi-lucidi-dies-age-30-daredevil-falls-high-rise-hong-kong/)
Quote
The cause of his death would have to be verified by an autopsy, they added.
I'll go with High-velocity cement poisoning as the cause of his death.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Completely different topic, but a joke that good deserves another one, and this made me laugh yesterday:
Alex Dunphey of Modern Family, is talking about her studies at university:
"One of our professors taught a chimpanzee how to play the saxophone. We all think he's great, but he only plays jazz, so there's no way to tell."
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/06/ian-watkins-singer-jailed-for-child-sex-offences-stabbed-in-prison
Apparently will be 'very lucky' if he survives.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 06, 2023, 07:53 PMhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/06/ian-watkins-singer-jailed-for-child-sex-offences-stabbed-in-prison
Apparently will be 'very lucky' if he survives.
I heard that Charles Bronson is one of the "guests" staying at HMP Wakefield. I wonder if he was one of the hostage-takers?
Charles Bronson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson_(prisoner))
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Aug 06, 2023, 10:23 PMI heard that Charles Bronson is one of the "guests" staying at HMP Wakefield. I wonder if he was one of the hostage-takers?
Charles Bronson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson_(prisoner))
Bronson is currently trying to get out isn't he? He had a parole hearing I think very recently, and they didn't release him.
You'd imagine he'd be on his best behaviour but who knows. They should release Bronson ffs he's done his time and then some. He's not killed anyone, look at his charges, robbery and assault, shit like that. Free my guy! He's a fitness expert, he could easily do something community based, keeping kids off the street and teaching them bedroom fitness.
(Probably wouldn't want to live next door to him though, lolz.)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Aug 02, 2023, 11:41 AMhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lizzo-dancers-weight-shamed-pressured-touch-nude-performer-lawsuit-rcna95161
Dang Lizzo I'm disappointed. She is body positivity queen but doing this shady stuff behind closed doors. Fat shaming dancers and sexually harassing them.
hmmm. I might have to check out her music afterall.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Aug 07, 2023, 06:12 PMHilarious.
What The F*ck Happened To Mitch McConnell?
Quote from: Jwb on Aug 07, 2023, 07:30 PMhmmm. I might have to check out her music afterall.
that's the song she did for the Barbie Soundtrack.
she also likes to twerk while playing her flute
Enjoy!
That second clip is quite the performance. I bet she dreams that she's playing the flute at night as she chokes into her sleep apnia mask.
Quote from: Jwb on Aug 08, 2023, 04:03 AMThat second clip is quite the performance. I bet she dreams that she's playing the flute at night as she chokes into her sleep apnia mask.
boo I hate that I laughed at that as I get ready to set up my own sleep apnea mask for the night soon.
she might not even have sleep apnea and also you don't choke while wearing it.
You don't need to give me a PSA on apnea. I got a crash course on it in the program.
I've seen many men of God accidently start snoring while standing up. I always thought it was a miracle.
Quote from: Jwb on Aug 08, 2023, 08:05 AMYou don't need to give me a PSA on apnea. I got a crash course on it in the program.
I've seen many men of God accidently start snoring while standing up. I always thought it was a miracle.
:laughing:
I can fall asleep standing up. I learned how to sleep any and everywhere from the military.
How can anyone not love this guy... also a watershed moment for being gay with your dad (cumtown heads will understand)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/07/12/74040061-12380567-image-a-29_1691406157533.jpg)
This Montgomery Brawl was awesome. I love the memes that have come from it.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Aug 09, 2023, 03:25 AM:laughing:
I can fall asleep standing up. I learned how to sleep any and everywhere from the military.
How'd you do that? Also did they teach you how to fall asleep within about ten seconds?
Six more people make allegations against Lizzo.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66450963
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 09, 2023, 11:04 PMSix more people make allegations against Lizzo.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66450963
An author says AI is 'writing' unauthorized books being sold under her name on Amazon (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/10/tech/ai-generated-books-amazon/index.html)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 09, 2023, 03:03 PMHow'd you do that? Also did they teach you how to fall asleep within about ten seconds?
you are so exhausted from working out so much that your body just finds any time it can to get some rest in.
After all the exercising we have like classes and stuff to attend along with drill instruction and it gets to be a lot.
I can lean up against a wall and just fall asleep because of that time in boot camp.
For Decades, I Defended Israel From Claims of Apartheid. I No Longer Can (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-08-10/ty-article-opinion/.premium/for-decades-i-defended-israel-from-claims-of-apartheid-i-no-longer-can/00000189-d4ac-d821-afdd-dfacb4060000)
More than 20,000 residents given until noon on Friday to leave home in face of advancing wildfire that could arrive by weekend (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/17/yellowknife-wildfire-canada-evacuation)
Fuck
QuoteGarth Carman, who drove out with his 16 cats, described witnessing scenes like "the apocalypse", with bears and other wild animals burned alive on the roadside.
"A wall of flames just washed over the highway and trees just began exploding in the fire – poof, poof, poof – one after the other, coming towards us. It was hell driving through this," he told CBC.
Mike Lindell is at it again. He thinks "WMDs" is the solution to fair elections in 2024
Some true crime related news from Norway. Anders Behring Breivik is suing the Norwegian state yet again for human rights abuses. He's tried before, but lost the case and was rejected a retrial. He's been moved to a new prison and is trying again.
He also wants to be released on probation. One of history's worst mass murderers out on probation after 11 years.. Oh yeah, sounds reasonable.
Quote from: Guybrush on Aug 18, 2023, 08:28 PMSome true crime related news from Norway. Anders Behring Breivik is suing the Norwegian state yet again for human rights abuses. He's tried before, but lost the case and was rejected a retrial. He's been moved to a new prison and is trying again.
He also wants to be released on probation. One of history's worst mass murderers out on probation after 11 years.. Oh yeah, sounds reasonable.
I'm unfamiliar with his case? What happened?
Quote from: DJChameleon on Aug 18, 2023, 10:42 PMI'm unfamiliar with his case? What happened?
😯
Killed about 70 people. Was a far right Norwegian terrorist. Detonated a bomb and then went on a shooting rampage.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 18, 2023, 10:59 PM😯
Killed about 70 people. Was a far right Norwegian terrorist. Detonated a bomb and then went on a shooting rampage.
I looked up his wikipedia and vaguely remember the van bombing attack but not so much the mass shooting at the camp afterwards.
I just remember that he's living in a cushy prison area that doesn't seem like what we have here in the states.
Yep, after detonating bombs in Oslo, he went after young people/teenagers at a camp organized by one of our political parties.
He was dressed as a police man and had an assault rifle (among other things), I believe. The camp was at an island, so to get away, kids had to either swim or get rescued by boat.
Right wing nutbag.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-65960514
QuoteNurse Lucy Letby has been found guilty of murdering seven babies on a neonatal unit, making her the UK's most prolific child serial killer in modern times.
The 33-year-old has also been convicted of trying to kill six other infants at the Countess of Chester Hospital between June 2015 and June 2016.
Letby deliberately injected babies with air, force fed others milk and poisoned two of the infants with insulin.
She refused to appear in the dock for the latest verdicts.
Tour group are washed away to their deaths in Moscow's sewers (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12428825/Tour-group-washed-away-death-Moscow-sewer-Eight-feared-dead-torrential-rain-breaks-guided-walk.html) :poop:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 19, 2023, 02:25 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-65960514
So friggin crazy. Absolutely batshit.
The last news I saw about her was they think she might have had dozens more victims, only those babies were just hurt / tortured and didn't die and so went under the radar until investigators started looking into happenings tied to her work hours.
That handwritten note from that article, it's clear she was morally conflicted about her actions. What the hell? If you don't like torturing and killing newborns, just stop?
Would like to read a typewritten version of that note as it's hard to make out her handwriting 🤔
It's like the plot of a really bad comedy.
My wife has a terminal illness — she wants sex with her ex one last time (https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/my-wife-has-a-terminal-illness-she-wants-sex-with-her-ex/)
A new Wagner just dropped
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwQQ3YKp0OS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Aug 22, 2023, 01:07 AMIt's like the plot of a really bad comedy.
My wife has a terminal illness — she wants sex with her ex one last time (https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/my-wife-has-a-terminal-illness-she-wants-sex-with-her-ex/)
There's zero chance it's real
But I respect writing up a two year old reddit post into a story. The gold standard for gutter journalism
Quote from: jadis on Aug 22, 2023, 09:08 PMThere's zero chance it's real
But I respect writing up a two year old reddit post into a story. The gold standard for gutter journalism
It's really not that far-removed from the more common 'unnamed/anonymous sources say...'
Biden having a Trump moment, except it is worse because you expect a lot better from him...and he knows that but does it anyway.
Joe Biden Comparing Maui Fires to Almost Losing His Corvette Sparks Fury (https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-maui-fires-corvette-fury-1821486)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Aug 23, 2023, 03:36 PMBiden having a Trump moment, except it is worse because you expect a lot better from him...and he knows that but does it anyway.
Joe Biden Comparing Maui Fires to Almost Losing His Corvette Sparks Fury (https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-maui-fires-corvette-fury-1821486)
It won't be worse for him politically because most people won't hear about it. And Hawaii (the only group of people who'll even remember the gaffe by General Election day) will still vote for Biden en masse if Trump is the GOP nominee.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Aug 23, 2023, 03:36 PMBiden having a Trump moment, except it is worse because you expect a lot better from him...and he knows that but does it anyway.
Joe Biden Comparing Maui Fires to Almost Losing His Corvette Sparks Fury (https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-maui-fires-corvette-fury-1821486)
Biden is thick as mince so I don't expect better from him I just expect him to get a pass for it because he's not Trump.
Quote from: Mindy on Aug 23, 2023, 08:35 PM
Plane crash...riiiiiiight.
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Putin is a scary man.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 23, 2023, 08:59 PMPutin is a scary man.
I couldn't believe our media in the US seemed to largely accept that Prigozhyn was just going to be exiled to Belarus and live in peace and harmony instead of...y'know....being taken prisoner by Russians in a secret location and then tortured to give out names and information until he had expended his use and then be killed in a 'freak accident'.
But who knows, after all, all of the camera's in Epstein's jail happened to just die at the most crucial moment, so crazier things have happened.
RIP to a real one
(https://www.spectator.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Prigozhin.jpeg?w=1500)
Quebecers no longer seeing doctor-assisted deaths as a last resort, says oversight body (https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/quebec-assisted-dying-maid?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1692113368)
Quote"We're now no longer dealing with an exceptional treatment, but a treatment that is very frequent," said Bureau, head of Commission sur les soins de fin de vie, which reports to the legislature.
Luxury hotel apologizes for using chocolate-covered woman as dessert buffet centerpiece (https://nypost.com/2023/08/25/luxury-hotel-apologizes-for-serving-chocolate-covered-woman/) :pimp:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Aug 26, 2023, 03:08 PMLuxury hotel apologizes for using chocolate-covered woman as dessert buffet centerpiece (https://nypost.com/2023/08/25/luxury-hotel-apologizes-for-serving-chocolate-covered-woman/) :pimp:
Lol what are they doing? This is the type of thing that Japanese businessmen enjoy for like private meetings in a private space not out in the open at a buffet where children possibly are. I'm surprised they didn't try to blame this mistake on a trans employee.
Another hate crime shooting.
https://www.insider.com/floirida-shooter-hated-black-people-swastika-painted-on-ar-15-2023-8
This screams of his gf cheating on him with a black dude so he goes and shoots up a Dollar General.
QuoteBritain faces a "tidal wave" of heart disease due to a dependence on ultra-processed food which is causing harm similar to smoking, research shows. (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/248e1b5e-44fe-11ee-b1f2-68fee143d67b?shareToken=6274834d4656f7be8fb49d859e465192)
Is this a "bad news but good news" type of story?...
Iranian protester dies in jail after avoiding death sentence (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66677352?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Even Harry Houdini probably would've been impressed...
Suspect in Oregon escapes custody and eludes police in chase while fully restrained in shackles, driving a minivan (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/us/oregon-suspect-escapes-custody-shackles-minivan/index.html)QuoteOregon State Police are searching for an attempted aggravated murder suspect who managed to escape custody while shackled at the arms, legs and stomach, and who fled a hospital in a Dodge minivan.
"At the time of his escape, he was fully restrained with leg shackles, a belly chain, handcuffs, and a restraint connecting all three together," police said. "He was wearing a white t-shirt, maroon sweatpants, and black rubber slippers."
Pray, who is considered to be extremely dangerous, was in custody at the Multnomah County jail on several serious charges, including attempted aggravated murder, and had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday.
Pray is believed to have escaped after stealing a white 2016 Dodge Caravan with Oregon license plate E265614, police said.
Pray then "eluded law enforcement southbound on Interstate 5. Law enforcement terminated the pursuit due to safety concerns and Pray was not apprehended," police said.
His whereabouts are unknown and law enforcement is asking anyone with information to contact them.
What a Bozo...
College professor with clown fetish asked to paint students' faces for cash, extra credit (https://nypost.com/2023/08/31/college-professor-with-clown-fetish-asked-to-paint-students-faces-for-cash-extra-credit/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 01, 2023, 03:30 PMWhat a Bozo...
College professor with clown fetish asked to paint students' faces for cash, extra credit (https://nypost.com/2023/08/31/college-professor-with-clown-fetish-asked-to-paint-students-faces-for-cash-extra-credit/)
How does one even develop a 'clown fetish'? :laughing: I'm genuinely curious.
I stopped asking this type of questions after learning about the guys who beat off to cartoon characters or cereal mascots. Though maybe this one is slightly weirder cause it's not as clearly a function of living in the digital world as the Sonic fetishists or whatever.
I always wondered why Sonic in particular attracted so much of that kind of stuff. I liked the games a lot, so I used to browse a lot of online Sonic fan sites back in the late 90s. And then Deviantart came out and I watched a generation of internet users come out as furries in real time.
There's a guy I'm friendly with in my local community who is an out and proud furry, he has a full black and neon green fox fursuit looking like Star Fox got a sponsorship from Monster Energy.
Is that called furries too? Cause I mean however goofy the whole furry thing is, if I understand correctly those people are having sex IRL with like-minded individuals? So it's like closer to "cosplay"?
Whereas what I mean is guys whose sexuality is tied with drawings of cartoon characters uploaded to deviantart
Quote from: jadis on Sep 01, 2023, 05:40 PMIs that called furries too? Cause I mean however goofy the whole furry thing is, if I understand correctly those people are having sex IRL with like-minded individuals? So it's like closer to "cosplay"?
Whereas what I mean is guys whose sexuality is tied with drawings of cartoon characters uploaded to deviantart
It can be both. Some furries do the IRL stuff, some are more into the fetish art. The guy I'm talking about draws his fursona and consumes that art and also does the cosplay stuff.
'Fursona', that's a new one for me :laughing:
Róisín Murphy's record label 'to donate new album proceeds to transgender charities' after backlash over comments (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/29/roisin-murphy-apologises-puberty-blocker-trans)
The comments in question:
Quote'But puberty blockers are f***ed, absolutely desolate, big Pharma laughing all the way to the bank. Little mixed up kids are vulnerable and need to be protected, that's just true.'
Quote from: SGR on Sep 01, 2023, 05:56 PM'Fursona', that's a new one for me :laughing:
Haha, maybe I'm just so far gone into kink communities that I sometimes forget that not everyone is as familiar with all the terminology lol.
Quote from: SGR on Sep 01, 2023, 03:39 PMHow does one even develop a 'clown fetish'? :laughing: I'm genuinely curious.
It's a funny fetish.
Or a creepy one.
Depending on how you feel about clowns.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 01, 2023, 06:31 PMHaha, maybe I'm just so far gone into kink communities that I sometimes forget that not everyone is as familiar with all the terminology lol.
Yeah I didn't think twice when you said fursona. I know about the lifestyle. I like to live by the motto that I don't yuck anyone's yum as long as they aren't hurting someone without consent.
@jadis Those furry suits are super expensive. So some furries just like to gather at cons and have fun in their suits while others like to have sex and attend orgies in their suits. It's called a yiff or yiffing.
My literally all time favorite news story was when Syrian refugees got put up in a Vancouver hotel that hosted a furry convention (https://mashable.com/article/syrian-refugees-get-warm-canadian-welcome-at-furry-convention-in-vancouver) and the children loved them
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-03/11/9/campaign_images/webdr02/syrian-refugees-had-to-share-a-hotel-with-a-furry-2-9407-1457706191-0_dblbig.jpg?resize=1200:*)
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-03/10/7/enhanced/webdr08/original-16462-1457612235-3.png?output-quality=auto&output-format=auto&downsize=640:*)
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Imagine if that had been an ICP convention.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Sep 04, 2023, 04:17 PMImagine if that had been an ICP convention.
The kids would have loved it except for the one or two weirdos that are afraid of clowns.
Juggalos are mad chill
:puke:Air Canada kicks off passengers who refused vomit-smeared seats (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66727103?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Incredible.
A new ordinance, passed in several jurisdictions and under consideration elsewhere, aims to stop people from using local roads to drive someone out of state for an abortion (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/01/texas-abortion-highways/)
Prisoner jailed for nurse sex assault groped female guards as they served her food (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prisoner-jailed-nurse-sex-assault-30877302)
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/09/07/mexico-first-female-president-election
Mexico will have it's first female president next year. Two women were nominated to head up the two opposing parties for people to vote for.
It's over folks...with this, I think Trump and Biden need to pack it in and go home.
Attila Frontman Chris Fronzak Says He Is Running for President (https://loudwire.com/chris-fronz-president-running-campaign-attila/)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Sep 08, 2023, 04:29 AMIt's over folks...with this, I think Trump and Biden need to pack it in and go home.
Attila Frontman Chris Fronzak Says He Is Running for President (https://loudwire.com/chris-fronz-president-running-campaign-attila/)
Make America Suck My F*ck Again?
Elon Musk confirms he and Grimes have had a third child – and its name is as unusual as you'd expect (https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/11/entertainment/elon-musk-grimes-third-child-scli-intl/index.html)
CIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower (https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried-to-pay-off-analysts-to-bury-covid-lab-leak-findings-whistleblower/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 13, 2023, 01:57 PMCIA tried to pay off analysts to bury findings that COVID lab leak was likely: whistleblower (https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cia-tried-to-pay-off-analysts-to-bury-covid-lab-leak-findings-whistleblower/)
Holy shit that's pretty damning.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Sep 13, 2023, 04:52 PMHoly shit that's pretty damning.
Considering how untrustworthy and corrupt the U.S. government is, I'm inclined to believe it.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 11, 2023, 01:49 PMElon Musk confirms he and Grimes have had a third child – and its name is as unusual as you'd expect (https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/11/entertainment/elon-musk-grimes-third-child-scli-intl/index.html)
missed opportunity to name the third child Zed.
Ashton Kutcher resigns from charity over his support letter for rapist Danny Masterson (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66827692?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)QuoteAshton Kutcher has resigned from the charity he set up to tackle child sexual abuse, following outrage over a letter of support to a judge after Danny Masterson's rape conviction.
TikToker jailed for two years over pork video (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66852841?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 20, 2023, 01:46 PMTikToker jailed for two years over pork video (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66852841?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Dem crazy religious peeps.
Quote from: Guybrush on Sep 20, 2023, 11:29 PMDem crazy religious peeps.
Yeah that's why I say don't mess with Muslims in general. Don't even entertain it. Same reason I was against the whole burning of a Quran.
All you need to know about the missing F35 story
Good old Fashioned Racism (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/white-neighbor-fire-hoses-black-nyc-doctor-s-party-guests-for-playing-music-lawsuit/ar-AA1heucf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9279e0c4cd9e406dbe48c265d289ce09&ei=24)
Kind of funny that this happened in NYC of all places but it doesn't surprise me. Racists exist everywhere.
Manhunt for gang boss who controlled luxury jail in Venezuela (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-66922730?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA) :pimp:
QuotePolice across South America are searching for the leader of a Venezuelan gang who escaped from the luxurious prison which he controlled, shortly before it was raided.
When 11,000 soldiers and police entered the inmate-run Tocorón jail in Venezuela on Wednesday, Héctor Guerrero Flores was nowhere to be found.
Under Guerrero Flores's rule, Tocorón came to resemble a luxury resort.
The jail boasted a small zoo, a nightclub and a swimming pool.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 26, 2023, 01:36 PMManhunt for gang boss who controlled luxury jail in Venezuela (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-66922730?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA) :pimp:
thats such a cool jail. I wouldn't mind being stuck in that place. :laughing: Norway step your prison/jail game up.
Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-asks-marina-abramovic-to-be-ambassador-for-ukraine/ar-AA1h6Bf8)
???
Quote from: SGR on Sep 26, 2023, 04:22 PMZelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-asks-marina-abramovic-to-be-ambassador-for-ukraine/ar-AA1h6Bf8)
???
Maybe they should've gone with this choice...
Angry customer and auto shop owner shoot each other to death, Florida police say (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/customer-eugene-frank-becker-auto-shop-owner-jodie-stout-shoot-each-death-florida-police/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Sep 29, 2023, 04:11 PMAngry customer and auto shop owner shoot each other to death, Florida police say (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/customer-eugene-frank-becker-auto-shop-owner-jodie-stout-shoot-each-death-florida-police/)
As I read the headline, I was going to say Texas or Florida and then saw Florida police say at the end. :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 20, 2023, 12:50 PMI know it's not solved in a legal sense but doesn't everybody know who did it? Orlando Anderson aka 'Baby Lane' and his uncle is Keefe D who I'm guessing is who they've raided.
Anderson died in 1998 so this is never gonna be solved.
@DJChameleon Keefe D has been charged for the murder.
Why did it take the police this long to arrest him when he's been on the Internet for years telling people exactly what happened?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Sep 30, 2023, 03:47 AM@DJChameleon Keefe D has been charged for the murder.
Why did it take the police this long to arrest him when he's been on the Internet for years telling people exactly what happened?
He even mentioned it in a book I believe.
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/online-personality-boopac-shakur-known-for-exposing-alleged-sexual-predators-shot-and-killed-in-michigan/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/online-personality-boopac-shakur-known-for-exposing-alleged-sexual-predators-shot-and-killed-in-michigan/)
Another Shakur has passed. He played a dangerous game of being a vigilante and won the ultimate stupid prize.
We've got some of those over here. Personally I think that they hide behind a virtuous cause for their own benefit. I don't give a shit about the nonces but I don't like the vigilantes either. One of them got run over by a nonce he stung over here. He didn't die, just broke his leg. These channels exposing paedos are becoming a trend and I don't think it's for the right reasons.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 02, 2023, 11:33 PMWe've got some of those over here. Personally I think that they hide behind a virtuous cause for their own benefit. I don't give a shit about the nonces but I don't like the vigilantes either. One of them got run over by a nonce he stung over here. He didn't die, just broke his leg. These channels exposing paedos are becoming a trend and I don't think it's for the right reasons.
Also sometimes they aren't even doing it right. They need specific type of evidence to get a good conviction and they are messing it up at times. Sometimes they even go after the wrong person.
Seychelles opposition leader Patrick Herminie charged with witchcraft (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66992504?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Oct 03, 2023, 10:16 AMAlso sometimes they aren't even doing it right. They need specific type of evidence to get a good conviction and they are messing it up at times. Sometimes they even go after the wrong person.
Yeah, vigilante justice is an almost literal loose cannon: can't be sure it's pointed at the right target, and could blow up in your face.
In Mexico, I haven't heard of channels dedicated to tracking or outing paedos. What is occasionally reported in the news is spontaneous retribution against burglars and thieves: some guy caught in the act is set upon by the whole neighbourhood as he tries to make his escape. So if you're planning a life of crime here, for your own safety you should affiliate yourself to a drug cartel, then people will be terrified of getting in your way - either that, or become a politician ;)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Oct 03, 2023, 10:16 AMAlso sometimes they aren't even doing it right. They need specific type of evidence to get a good conviction and they are messing it up at times. Sometimes they even go after the wrong person.
I've watched a lot of these videos. The big guy who exposed EDP (Alex Rosen) does a pretty good job. He manages to persuade some of the worst pedos you've ever heard of into confessing all kinds of things on camera. He gets them to believe that the recording is just for his protection. He gets them to believe he's on their side. And when someone on his crew eventually calls the police to show up - he manages to even get these people to admit their crime in front of the police (by saying something like, "You're gonna delete all that CP off your phone, right?", to which they say they will, in front of the police, incriminating themselves). He recently got a fire lieutenant sentenced to 33 years after he tried to meet up with a girl online, here's the video if anyone is interested.
https://rumble.com/v3jt9nd-firefighter.html
I think his group, Predator Poachers, does more good than harm (which isn't true for all of them). When it's done professionally, all these guys are doing is collecting all the evidence, and presenting an easy case to the prosecutor.
Note: Alex has done a lot of immature things and said a lot of offensive things in the past, but he seems to have matured quite a bit over the last couple years.
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Euro 2028 hosts all but confirmed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67003581
Just warms my heart to see a pan British Isles tournament.
QuoteUK & Ireland Euro 2028 host stadiums
1. Wembley Stadium (London) (capacity 90,652)
2. Principality Stadium (Cardiff) (73,952)
3. Tottenham Hotspur Stadium (London) (62,322)
4. Etihad Stadium (Manchester) (61,000)
5. Everton Stadium (Liverpool) (52,679)
6. St James' Park (Newcastle) (52,305)
7. Villa Park (Birmingham) (52,190)
8. Hampden Park (Glasgow) (52,032)
9. Aviva Stadium (Dublin) (51,711)
10. Casement Park (Belfast) (34,500)
🙂
Thoughts Trolls?
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Lol Matt Gaetz actually accomplished something useful for once in his life.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Oct 05, 2023, 09:15 PMLol Matt Gaetz actually accomplished something useful for once in his life.
From zero to hero.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/slain-5-year-old-had-been-kicked-out-by-mom-made-to-camp-outside-neighbors/ar-AA1hHSeR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d688efb278b14520ad095b9773f9d309&ei=22
I swear some people don't need to have kids period.
Hoist with his own placard
6 Colombian suspects in Ecuadorian presidential candidate's assassination killed in prison (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ecuadorian-suspects-in-presidential-candidates-assassination-killed-in-prison/)QuoteSix Colombians arrested as the alleged assassins of a candidate in Ecuador's August presidential election were slain Friday inside a prison in Guayaquil, officials announced, without providing details on what happened.
Confirmed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67062742
Got a Union Jack or ten spare if you'd like one
@Trollheart
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 10, 2023, 12:27 PMConfirmed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67062742
Got a Union Jack or ten spare if you'd like one @Trollheart
2 of the 5 nations get automatic qualification?
BRING BACK THE HOME NATIONS TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Quote from: Suburban Placeholder? on Oct 10, 2023, 02:58 PM2 of the 5 nations get automatic qualification?
BRING BACK THE HOME NATIONS TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!!! ;D
The shittest two yes. So obviously one of them will be the Republic of Ireland.
Nebraska funeral worker fired after using sex doll of dead man he was tasked to collect (https://nypost.com/2023/10/15/nebraska-funeral-worker-arrested-for-using-dead-mans-sex-doll/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Oct 16, 2023, 02:45 PMNebraska funeral worker fired after using sex doll of dead man he was tasked to collect (https://nypost.com/2023/10/15/nebraska-funeral-worker-arrested-for-using-dead-mans-sex-doll/)
I like the reporting.
"The creep decided to help himself and somehow weaseled his way back into the dead man's apartment, officials allege."
Never a dull day on the job 💀
Here's another doozy of a news story...
Child Rapist Strangled by Serial Killer Cellmate for His Bad Hygiene (https://www.crimeonline.com/2023/10/12/please-meet-the-devil-child-rapist-strangled-by-serial-killer-cellmate-for-his-bad-hygiene/)QuoteAccording to KGET, Escobar said he strangled Villanueva with his hands. He allegedly left a note in their cell listing the reasons why he killed him.
"1) Didn't want to shower or bird bath right. 2) Didn't wanna clean cell. 3) Stank like pure s—. 4) Didn't wanna move I asked 2 or 3 times. 5) Didn't wanna take me serious so please meet the devil ha, ha," the note reportedly read.
Exonerated man shot and killed in traffic stop in Georgia (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67138827?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)QuoteA man who was exonerated after spending more than 16 years in prison on a wrongful conviction was shot and killed by a Georgia sheriff's deputy on Monday.
Major Florida GOP Donor Who Called Obama the N-word Dies in an Attempted Murder Suicide (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/major-florida-gop-donor-who-called-obama-the-n-word-dies-in-attempted-murder-suicide/ar-AA1innfA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=SCOOBE&cvid=e135b917a30c4a58bf4452adf9852d93&ei=92)
Madness
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/black-man-wrongly-imprisoned-for-16-years-shot-dead-by-georgia-deputy-during-traffic-stop/ar-AA1imSek?ocid=msedgntp&pc=SCOOBE&cvid=6a1786f57aca4b46ac865e5760dc7c67&ei=24
He was safer in prison. It sucks to be wrongly accused then you get back your freedom just to be killed by a deputy.
Man in 'rocking' car was 'having sex with a stuffed animal': cops (https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/driver-in-rocking-car-was-having-sex-with-stuffed-animal-cops/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Oct 20, 2023, 03:33 PMMan in 'rocking' car was 'having sex with a stuffed animal': cops (https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/driver-in-rocking-car-was-having-sex-with-stuffed-animal-cops/)
Very posh name for someone who bangs stuffed animals. In his car.
Is it the meth that makes people horny for stuffed animals?
London police offer new reward in cold case of body discovered in wine bar freezer after 9 years (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/london-police-offer-new-reward-cold-case-body-discovered-wine-bar-free-rcna121457)
Cold case, indeed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-deletes-pro-palestine-tweet-over-antisemitic-octopus-toy-i-was-completely-unaware/ar-AA1izEja
Not sure about this.
Oh no, I guess I have to delete all my Gentle Giant albums now because they had an album with an octopus on the cover. I can't believe I didn't notice such an obvious antisemitic dogwhistle. :(
I literally just picked up the phone and called my closest friend, who is Jewish - and she had absolutely no idea that an octopus is an antisemitic symbol.
However, apparently it is (or has been, historically): https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/anti-jewish-propaganda
No more "Octopus's Garden" for me. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KUrntHu60
Yeah I was raised Jewish as well and I had no idea either.
I'm sure there are situations in which it's used as an antisemitic symbol. But getting up in arms over a teenager with an octopus plush reeks of grasping at straws to find something to attack her over.
^ I agree. Will this affect Etsy sales of octopus cuddle toys, I wonder?
(https://i.etsystatic.com/31211864/r/il/713485/5311962458/il_1588xN.5311962458_3fgp.jpg)
As a fellow Jew I also had no idea about the octopus thing. But now I'm in the mood for some Gentle Giant. Thanks, Mrs. Waffles!
Quote from: Guybrush on Oct 20, 2023, 04:54 PMVery posh name for someone who bangs stuffed animals. In his car.
Is it the meth that makes people horny for stuffed animals?
I just googled it because I too was curious. Meth is a stimulant so it can boost your sex drive and make you horny yep yep.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Oct 21, 2023, 02:21 PMI just googled it because I too was curious. Meth is a stimulant so it can boost your sex drive and make you horny yep yep.
Right, right.
Okay, I'm gonna go buy some meth.
As someone who has done meth, yes, it does make you hornier.
Thankfully I got off meth and now I only do METH (My Estrogen Transgender Hormones). ;)
Quote from: Guybrush on Oct 21, 2023, 04:30 PMRight, right.
Okay, I'm gonna go buy some meth.
I hope someone hides the stuffed animals.
Michigan State apologizes for displaying picture of Adolf Hitler on the videoboard before a football game (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/us/michigan-state-hitler-photo-football-game/index.html)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Oct 22, 2023, 02:32 PMMichigan State apologizes for displaying picture of Adolf Hitler on the videoboard before a football game (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/22/us/michigan-state-hitler-photo-football-game/index.html)
This happens a lot over here, too many examples to list. Fans can't be trusted with stuff like this.
It is pretty funny imo.
With all the rampant fascism on the American right these days, I'd question whether the culprit was just doing it as a joke.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Oct 22, 2023, 03:30 PMWith all the rampant fascism on the American right these days, I'd question whether the culprit was just doing it as a joke.
Unlikely. It's just the nature of fans trying to get a laugh. I could post loads of similar examples.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 22, 2023, 02:41 PMThis happens a lot over here, too many examples to list. Fans can't be trusted with stuff like this.
It is pretty funny imo.
I remember a Leeds United game, back when COVID was raging and they were putting cardboard cutouts of people in the stands during games, where someone put one of Osama Bin Laden in the stands.
Wouldn't surprise me if Hitler had made an appearance at one of those games, also.
Fair enough. I was unaware that this was apparently some kind of weird tradition lol.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Oct 22, 2023, 03:59 PMI remember a Leeds United game, back when COVID was raging and they were putting cardboard cutouts of people in the stands during games, where someone put one of Osama Bin Laden in the stands.
Wouldn't surprise me if Hitler had made an appearance at one of those games, also.
Fred and Rose West were at one of the games too :o
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Oct 22, 2023, 04:12 PMFair enough. I was unaware that this was apparently some kind of weird tradition lol.
I get that some of these are not funny but the Nigel Farage one got me:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/cricket-fans-cause-uproar-after-posting-sick-messages-on-stadium-scoreboard-a3418646.html
I mean I'm not saying nobody should ever find this stuff funny. I'm just always a bit skeptical about the intentions behind "ironic" nazi or racist jokes.
But I don't think laughing at a joke about Hitler is a bad reflection on you or anyone who finds it funny. For the record I think you are a lovely person. :)
Thank you Mrs. Waffles 🫂
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 22, 2023, 04:27 PMFred and Rose West were at one of the games too :o
Oo! My favorite true crime couple.
I think most things can be made fun of, at least if it's not current. I think Mel Brooks would agree.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 22, 2023, 04:27 PMI get that some of these are not funny but the Nigel Farage one got me:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/cricket-fans-cause-uproar-after-posting-sick-messages-on-stadium-scoreboard-a3418646.html
I chuckled at the Farage one too, but I agree that the other "quotes" (re Madeleine McCann and Elisabeth Fritzl) are not funny at all. What is the matter with people?
Pope accepts resignation of bishop of Polish diocese where gay orgy scandal under investigation (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-accepts-resignation-bishop-polish-diocese-gay-orgy-104247379)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 22, 2023, 02:41 PMThis happens a lot over here, too many examples to list. Fans can't be trusted with stuff like this.
It is pretty funny imo.
Reminds me of one time at college - I think a student was responsible for the projector in our dining hall that displayed various powerpoints of campus information - one day, instead of campus information, it was projecting a pornhub video to the laughter of many
Quote from: SGR on Oct 24, 2023, 05:46 PMReminds me of one time at college - I think a student was responsible for the projector in our dining hall that displayed various powerpoints of campus information - one day, instead of campus information, it was projecting a pornhub video to the laughter of many
Oh, we did that too, absolutely. In freshman year a friend and I actually rigged all the computers in one computer lab to autoplay a rickroll on startup.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67225016
Grim. The article says killed 16 but the radio just said it's 22 now.
Maine is meant to be a beautiful, quiet state as well isn't it? I know these things can happen anywhere (in the USA) but still.
misspoptart was from Maine. I hope she is OK.
@ribbons !! Everybody!!
Talking Heads are getting back together and re-doing Stop Making Sense? Or something? Whazzup?! 😱
Hnaaaaarrrpp it's just a 4k restoration with a new promo.
Taking the suit out for what, David? Watching a bluray?
I'll buy it, if course. 😄
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Oct 26, 2023, 02:04 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67225016
Grim. The article says killed 16 but the radio just said it's 22 now.
Maine is meant to be a beautiful, quiet state as well isn't it? I know these things can happen anywhere (in the USA) but still.
misspoptart was from Maine. I hope she is OK.
Maine usually ranks number 1 out of the 50 states for the lowest violent crime rate. That mass shooting is about a years worth of murders in one go for the entire state. I don't think anything like that has ever happened in the history of the state of Maine.
Quote from: Guybrush on Oct 26, 2023, 07:00 PMHnaaaaarrrpp it's just a 4k restoration with a new promo.
Taking the suit out for what, David? Watching a bluray?
I'll buy it, if course. 😄
Well, thanks for the heads-up anyway! I may go see the restoration at the cinema this weekend. 8)
If anyone wants some relief from the news out of Gaza, here's a curious item from Colombia:-
Pablo Escobar's Feral Hippos Face Cull:- https://www.bbc.com/news/67306304
In it's way it's a feel-good story about how life will always find a way, and of course it's about hippos, animals we like because they look so sweet as cuddly toys - but be careful!! IRL they are bigger and more aggressive than the ones you used to have in your nursery ;)
SCD Public Safety Announcement:
How to distinguish between safe and dangerous hippos:-
(https://5.imimg.com/data5/ECOM/Default/2023/3/ND/YQ/HU/10575337/10-01-35a93aeb-e017-4a2e-99ff-08bafad41477-500x500.png)(https://a-z-animals.com/media/2021/10/hippo.jpg)
Also watch out for suicidal Rottweilers...
Pregnant tourist seriously injured when hit by 85-pound Rottweiler falling to death from 3rd-floor window in Rome (https://nypost.com/2023/11/03/news/pregnant-tourist-injured-by-falling-dog-in-rome/)
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Nov 03, 2023, 05:20 PMIf anyone wants some relief from the news out of Gaza, here's a curious item from Colombia:-
Pablo Escobar's Feral Hippos Face Cull:- https://www.bbc.com/news/67306304
In it's way it's a feel-good story about how life will always find a way, and of course it's about hippos, animals we like because they look so sweet as cuddly toys - but be careful!! IRL they are bigger and more aggressive than the ones you used to have in your nursery ;)
More people get mauled and killed by hippos than any other large, wild mammal so they're definitely in the keep away from category of beasties. Just think how crazy dangerous they'll get when they break into Escobar's secret forest stash of cocaine.
Maybe they taste good? I wouldn't mind trying 🤔 kill'em and fry em up!
@jadis I can see you lurking. Come back mate 😲
I logged in to do a post on a very specific point (and it's not the one y'all thinking it is :laughing: )
If you ever wanna discuss the season's Ollie Watkins is having and the enduring cretinism of the Corbynite wing of Labour, you know where to find me!
Quote from: grindy on Oct 21, 2023, 08:00 AMAs a fellow Jew I also had no idea about the octopus thing. But now I'm in the mood for some Gentle Giant. Thanks, Mrs. Waffles!
You know I've spoken to a lot of Russian Jews in Israel and it keeps surprising me how little
even they know about Soviet "anti-Zionist" propaganda, which lifted pretty much all of its imagery from Nazi and earlier antisemitic propaganda, where the octopus encircling the globe was of course a constant fixture. And this amnesia about this extremely dark chapter of 20th century history (chiefly on the left where many Stalinists are still alive and kicking, and in the developing world, where it spread as the convenient cover for antisemitism that it obviously is) feeds into what we see today: the same "anti-Zionist" word salad spouted on the streets of major cities in the West by thousands of supposed bright young things who are definitely "on the right side of history".
See this Soviet caricature from 1972 for example
(https://fathomjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/cache/2019/05/Anti-Zionist-caricature-from-the-Soviet-magazine-Krokodil-1972-800x992/1521893941.jpg)
For the record, I have no opinion on the plushy in the Greta photo except that it's extremely funny to imagine her deliberately choreographing the whole thing (and that mentally challenged youngsters shouldn't be taken all that seriously)
Quote from: Guybrush on Nov 04, 2023, 02:50 AMMore people get mauled and killed by hippos than any other large, wild mammal so they're definitely in the keep away from category of beasties. Just think how crazy dangerous they'll get when they break into Escobar's secret forest stash of cocaine.
Maybe they taste good? I wouldn't mind trying 🤔 kill'em and fry em up!
:laughing: That's a good idea, Guybrush! They look like they have a lot of nice cuts of lean meat on them. I'm thinking of keeping one in my back garden and fattening him up for Christmas.
4 charged in theft of 18-karat gold toilet (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gold-toilet-stolen-four-charged-maurizio-cattelan/) :poop:
QuoteFour men have been charged in the theft of a solid gold toilet, which was valued at roughly $1.25 million when it was stolen, the Crown Prosecution Service said Monday.
Officials list the current value of the toilet, which has not been found, at 4.8 million pounds, or roughly $5.93 million.
That's some nice ass-set appreciation.
'Terrorist' woman allegedly plowed car into what she thought was Jewish school: cops (https://nypost.com/2023/11/06/news/woman-allegedly-plowed-car-into-what-she-thought-was-jewish-school-cops/)
So this anti-semitic Palestinian woman plows her car into a Black Hebrew Israelite school, thinking they were jews. How oddly validating for the Black Hebrew Israelites. This is anti-semite on anti-semite violence! :laughing:
New Jersey elementary school janitor accused of contaminating food with bodily fluids (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nj-school-janitor-accused-contaminating-food-bodily-fluids-rcna123746)QuoteA New Jersey elementary school janitor is accused of performing sexual acts with school objects and contaminating food and cafeteria utensils with bodily fluids and bleach.
Giovanni Impellizzeri, 25, is accused of contaminating food and kitchen utensils in the Elizabeth Moore School cafeteria with saliva, urine and feces. He also sprayed bleach into a container of food that was later served to kids "with the intention of harming the students," according to an affidavit of probable cause.
I'm guessing there was also some baby batter included with all those other nasty contaminants.
Prison is too good for the filthy bastard.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Nov 07, 2023, 10:26 PMPrison is too good for the filthy bastard.
I agree.
Antifa supporter clashes with Muslim women over transgender kids following pro-Palestinian protest: 'Worlds collide' (https://nypost.com/2023/11/06/news/antifa-supporter-clashes-with-muslim-women-over-transgender-kids-after-london-pro-palestinian-protest-worlds-collide/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Nov 09, 2023, 02:02 PMAntifa supporter clashes with Muslim women over transgender kids following pro-Palestinian protest: 'Worlds collide' (https://nypost.com/2023/11/06/news/antifa-supporter-clashes-with-muslim-women-over-transgender-kids-after-london-pro-palestinian-protest-worlds-collide/)
Guy is absolutely clueless. Nice dose of reality for him there.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Nov 09, 2023, 03:04 PMGuy is absolutely clueless. Nice dose of reality for him there.
He certainly has a level of ignorance that beggars belief. :laughing:
I think it stems from Antifa's ideological roots in marxism. It presents a paradigm of 'oppressors' vs 'oppressed'. And in viewing himself and those muslim women as 'oppressed', he figured they'd agree with him.
I think that's a bit of a generalization. You can be against fascism and not be a Marxist. The only ideology antifa has in common is "fascism is bad".
But yeah, I, along with most trans people I'd imagine, understand that many other marginalized groups hate us just the same as every other walk of life. As an out trans person for 20 years I know better than to assume allyship.
Quote from: SGR on Nov 09, 2023, 04:37 PMI think it stems from Antifa's ideological roots in marxism. It presents a paradigm of 'oppressors' vs 'oppressed'. And in viewing himself and those muslim women as 'oppressed', he figured they'd agree with him.
Its just as someone who is from a place where this is a bit of a hot potato (https://news.sky.com/story/angry-protests-continue-over-birmingham-schools-okay-to-be-gay-brainwashing-11722537) it is hilarious to me he thought they'd side with him.
Worker crushed to death by robot that mistook him for a box of veggies (https://nypost.com/2023/11/09/news/robot-mistakes-worker-for-box-of-veggies-crushes-him-to-death/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Nov 09, 2023, 06:08 PMWorker crushed to death by robot that mistook him for a box of veggies (https://nypost.com/2023/11/09/news/robot-mistakes-worker-for-box-of-veggies-crushes-him-to-death/)
That reminds me of a story of a man who walked into an industrial oven to clean it and a colleague closed it and it roasted him alive.
It still freaks me out now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30114191
:(
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Nov 09, 2023, 04:51 PMI think that's a bit of a generalization. You can be against fascism and not be a Marxist. The only ideology antifa has in common is "fascism is bad".
Sure, but I don't necessarily think antifa is against fascism, just because it's in their name and they like to self-style themselves as such. Their behavior and actions are practically no different than the fascist brownshirts of the '30s.
I don't doubt that there are some people who are like what you describe. But there are also people who are just... against fascism. In my experience antifa is a much broader category than you seem to give it credit for.
I'm staunchly against fascism, you're not going to convince me that anti-fascism is equally bad, so we might as well nip this in the bud lol.
Hell is other fascists.
Florida couple busted having sex in public in front of kids: 'Always a dream of mine' (https://nypost.com/2023/11/14/news/naked-florida-couple-busted-having-sex-in-public/)QuoteA witness described the horny fornicators' encounter as "crack to sack, going to town"
:pimp:
:laughing:
Damn it Bernie quit cock blocking.
I want to see the two old gentlemen scrap.
let them get it out of their system.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Nov 15, 2023, 02:56 PM:laughing:
Damn it Bernie quit cock blocking.
I want to see the two old gentlemen scrap.
let them get it out of their system.
That would be some political viewing worth watching.
That Teamster President looks soft and out of shape. Senator Mullin looks like he could give him a thorough smack down.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Nov 15, 2023, 03:45 PMThat would be some political viewing worth watching.
That Teamster President looks soft and out of shape. Senator Mullin looks like he could give him a thorough smack down.
The Teamster President has like a mob vibe to him. I think he would immediately look for the nearest object for a weapon to use and go to town on Senator Mullin. All I know is that it would be an awesome fight.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/1319b27f56c30ca691c8520be93b9c45/7b0dd2e3b2e497ee-72/s540x810/162b28fc0f85283e74519b01b4d0f0429ed76cd2.gif)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Nov 09, 2023, 06:16 PMThat reminds me of a story of a man who walked into an industrial oven to clean it and a colleague closed it and it roasted him alive.
It still freaks me out now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30114191
:(
Yeah, that's horrific, jimmy jazz :yikes:
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Here's a news item that is kind of upsetting:-
Does Buffy Sainte-Marie actually have indigenous North American ancestry? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67351680
It's quite a long article that seems to conclude. "
No, but yes"
The "No" part is alarming as it implies that a folk icon and spokeswoman for indigenous rights/pride was all the while indulging in "cultural appropriation".
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Nov 16, 2023, 12:46 AMHere's a news item that is kind of upsetting:-
Does Buffy Sainte-Marie actually have indigenous North American ancestry? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67351680
It's quite a long article that seems to conclude. "No, but yes"
The "No" part is alarming as it implies that a folk icon and spokeswoman for indigenous rights/pride was all the while indulging in "cultural appropriation".
I read the CBC News story on this and she's definitely a fraud. Her real name is Beverly Jean Santamaria. I've lost count of how many white people I've met in North America throughout my life who've claimed to have some American Indian ancestry. It seems to have started in the 60's and became a trendy thing to claim for some people. Unlike most of those I've met, who tend to look whiter than a blizzard in January, at least "Buffy" looks like she could pass for the role of an American Indian in a movie or TV show.
Who is the real Buffy Sainte-Marie? (https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/buffy-sainte-marie?fbclid=IwAR3ETK7mm6mRlGRauu9ZqBPsfPDgCVzN_MecF0ukVeuQsX2AbLnkSI0Hm7c)Santamaria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santamaria)QuoteSantamaria (also spelled Santamaría or Santa Maria) is a surname from the Latin Arch in Europe. The name, a reference to the Blessed Virgin Mary meaning Holy Mary or Saint Mary, means the same thing in the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and Catalan languages. In Arabic, the equivalent name is Mariam. The surname has spread to the Americas, especially South America, via immigration and colonisation
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Nov 16, 2023, 02:11 PMI read the CBC News story on this and she's definitely a fraud. Her real name is Beverly Jean Santamaria. I've lost count of how many white people I've met in North America throughout my life who've claimed to have some American Indian ancestry. It seems to have started in the 60's and became a trendy thing to claim for some people. Unlike most of those I've met, who tend to look whiter than a blizzard in January, at least "Buffy" looks like she could pass for the role of an American Indian in a movie or TV show.
Who is the real Buffy Sainte-Marie? (https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/buffy-sainte-marie?fbclid=IwAR3ETK7mm6mRlGRauu9ZqBPsfPDgCVzN_MecF0ukVeuQsX2AbLnkSI0Hm7c)
Santamaria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santamaria)
^ Yes, it looks like the most important evidence shows her to have European ancestry
QuoteSainte-Marie has a birth certificate in Stoneham, Massachusetts. That document allegedly indicates that Sainte-Marie - whose full name on the certificate is Beverley Jean Santamaria - was born to Albert, who was Italian-American, and Winifred Santamaria, whose parents had mostly English ancestry.
With the counter-argument being:-
Quotein the early 1960s, she connected with a couple from Piapot First Nation in Saskatchewan, who eventually adopted her as one of their own.
The couple's granddaughter, Ntwanis Piapot, told Global News that the adoption process took several years and was done in Cree custom.
A statement by the family dismissed the CBC's investigation and affirmed that Sainte-Marie is a "beloved member" of the community.
"No one, including Canada and its governments, the Indian Act, institutions, media or any person anywhere can deny our family's inherent right to determine who is a member of our family and community," the family said.
It's an intriguing question, and this morning I listened to this song to try and work out how I felt about it:-
Should I worry that she's not the real deal? After all, when Elton John sang
Rocket Man, I kind of guessed that he wasn't actually an astronaut.
Bottom Line: It would've been more honorable for her to turn down these awards, so that DNA-type indigenous musicians had a better chance:-
QuoteThroughout her career, Sainte-Marie has won various awards reserved for indigenous musicians, including four of Canada's indigenous lifetime achievement awards.
Don't take my dildo (https://nypost.com/2023/11/26/news/florida-woman-ariella-messina-begs-cops-not-to-take-her-sex-toy-during-drug-bust/) :pimp:
As Young Thug trial begins, prosecutors allege rapper is 'proclaimed leader' of criminal street gang (https://abcnews.go.com/US/opening-statements-set-begin-young-thugs-racketeering-trial/story?id=105165574)QuoteOpening statements in the racketeering trial of hip-hop star Young Thug began Monday, with prosecutors alleging that the Grammy-winning rapper is a co-founder and "proclaimed leader" of an alleged criminal street gang in Fulton County, Georgia, known as "Young Slime Life" or "YSL."
What a plot twist lol
Mom reveals young Chiefs fan is Native American after media attacks (https://youtu.be/wzU_2Q4p-_M?si=zqI-vVjt-BXxNFg3)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Dec 02, 2023, 03:13 PMWhat a plot twist lol
Mom reveals young Chiefs fan is Native American after media attacks (https://youtu.be/wzU_2Q4p-_M?si=zqI-vVjt-BXxNFg3)
Shouldn't have to get that far though. The fact it's even a story is a problem.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Dec 02, 2023, 03:13 PMWhat a plot twist lol
Mom reveals young Chiefs fan is Native American after media attacks (https://youtu.be/wzU_2Q4p-_M?si=zqI-vVjt-BXxNFg3)
Hopefully, the kid has some genuine Native American roots. Unlike the likes of Buffy Sainte-Marie. ;D
Woman who assaulted Chipotle worker sentenced to fast food job for two months (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67619012?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Dec 06, 2023, 08:14 PMHopefully, the kid has some genuine Native American roots. Unlike the likes of Buffy Sainte-Marie. ;D
:laughing:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdpvwrOPZ2muOibvpgthJDSUWlqj9EUsmhFA&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Dec 09, 2023, 05:36 PMWoman who assaulted Chipotle worker sentenced to fast food job for two months (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67619012?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
fitting punishment
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 11, 2023, 11:31 AMfitting punishment
It's perfect. Kudos to the Judge.
Ex-rocker Theo Lengyel named a person of interest in girlfriend's mysterious disappearance (https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/news/ex-rocker-theo-lengyel-named-a-person-of-interest-in-girlfriends-disappearance/)QuoteLengyel played saxophone, clarinet and keyboards in the rock group Mr. Bungle.
QuoteAccording to Mr. Bungle bassist Trevor Dunn, "we unanimously decided to go on without him because he wasn't growing with the rest of the band and we were running out of things for him to do. He got pissed off and I haven't heard from him since."
QuoteI know him quite well, and I can say without hesitation that the scariest thing about him is his unfulfilled potential.
Technology Companies Brag About Pornification Of AI Girlfriends (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/technology-companies-brag-about-pornification-ai-girlfriends)
Jesus Christ, 60% of men 18 - 30 in the US are single? This is just sad.
Driver says he hit a deer, but police found a dead body in his car (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/driver-says-he-hit-an-animal-but-police-found-a-dead-body-in-his-car/3413792/)QuoteA man is in custody facing criminal charges after police say he fatally struck a pedestrian in Dallas, then drove nearly 40 miles to a fast food restaurant in White Settlement with the victim's dead body in his passenger seat.
White Settlement Police said they were called to a restaurant parking lot at about 11:15 p.m. Saturday after a restaurant customer reported a vehicle in the parking lot with extensive damage and the driver slumped over the steering wheel. An officer arrived a short time later and noticed a lifeless person was also in the front passenger seat.
Police said detectives believe the impact was so severe that the 45-year-old pedestrian was thrown inside the vehicle while he was in the cross walk near Cockrell Hill Road and I-30 in west Dallas. Police say his legs were recovered from the scene. The rest of his body was found in the passenger side of Lujan's vehicle in White Settlement, police said.
Despite a badly damaged hood and a large hole in his windshield, investigators say Flores drove 38 miles before stopping at the Jack in the Box parking lot between 8 p.m. and 9 p.m., at least two hours before police were called by the customer.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Dec 19, 2023, 10:10 PMDriver says he hit a deer, but police found a dead body in his car (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/driver-says-he-hit-an-animal-but-police-found-a-dead-body-in-his-car/3413792/)
Wow, that reminds me of that case with the woman who hit that guy with her car.. was he homeless? And as he was injured and stuck to the windshield, she just drove on home, parked the car in the garage and let him die there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gregory_Glenn_Biggs
Some nice images from the volcanic activity on Iceland here.
I've been to Iceland twice and want to go back, but now's probably not a good time.
Quote from: Guybrush on Dec 19, 2023, 11:45 PMWow, that reminds me of that case with the woman who hit that guy with her car.. was he homeless? And as he was injured and stuck to the windshield, she just drove on home, parked the car in the garage and let him die there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gregory_Glenn_Biggs
That case was the first thing I thought of when I read that news story. After checking that wiki entry, I was very surprised to see that it happened in 2001. I remember it quite well but I would've guessed it happened closer to 5 or 6 years ago.
Juan Guaidó should be president
These Parents Let Their Kids Determine Their Own Gender Identity. Here's How It Works. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/these-parents-let-their-kids-determine-their-own-gender-identity-here-s-how-it-works/ar-AA1cRsUO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=SCOOBE&cvid=7b16390bee964f24b6523847b06e2984&ei=54)
QuoteDennis and their partners also have an older child, 12-year-old Hazel, who was identified as female at birth and addressed with she/her pronouns. But around age 4, Hazel began to explore their own gender identity and decided to change their pronouns. This prompted their parents to pursue a different path when handling the question of Sparrow's gender.
Critics say that gender-creative parents are imposing their own agenda onto children. But Dennis and members of other families told HuffPost that what they are actually doing is freeing their kids from people's gendered expectations.
"It's the rest of the world — kids on the playground, parents at school, teachers, a stranger at the grocery store," Dennis said. "They all are going to have different interactions with the child based on an assumption of the gender."
The comments section on that article is 99.9% negative. Interesting.
Quote from: Mindy on Jan 05, 2024, 09:46 PM
I wonder why the perp in that first clip wasn't at least in handcuffs during that hearing? Gotta say that was an impressive jump, though.
As far as the second clip, maybe it's time for America to adopt some Singaporean style of laws and punishments to get things under control.
Oh no... I've been doing serious numbers on Instagram speaking out against antisemitism and this guy has gone and ruined it all.
https://twitter.com/NYPDTips/status/1744564097473970358
Maybe he was letting off steam after the whole tunnel (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12941611/synagogue-tunnels-brooklyn-orthodox-jewish-770-eastern-parkway-chabad.html) thing got blown... The tribe taking L after L these days but I'm confident they'll turn it around as they always have.
Well I dunno if you caught this post I made a while back in the global politics thread. In it, I embedded a long ass post in spoilers that basically described my thoughts on the potential for the war in Gaza to expand to a broader regional conflict.
Quote from: Jwb on Dec 04, 2023, 07:53 PMvery interesting that you posted this Mindy. I was working on a thread about the current situation in the middle east and the potential for it to spill into a wider regional conflict. But I gave up on it.
Here's a few videos I'd recommend.
Skip to 3:35 to avoid the intro and embedded ad. That's where the real video starts.
skip the embedded ad which starts at 1:23 and ends at 3:30.
long ass post
The key points are basically that since the Hamas attack on Oct 7th, there has been a lot of speculation about the potential causes or motivations behind the attack. Although we don't know that Iran or any other power had any insight whatsoever into the attack, let alone anything to do with it, they do have some plausible motivations, as well as known ties to Hamas, though not nearly as close as Hezbollah.
So it's not like it's outside of either their means or even their usual modus operandi of how they project soft power in the region. As such, there has been a lot of speculation in certain circles from day 1 over Iran's potential involvement in the attack.
The most prominent theory is that the normalization agreement that was being pursued between Israel and Saudi Arabia presented a severe threat to Iran, and as such they sought to throw a monkey wrench in that process via Oct 7th.
It's worth pointing out that the normalization process is not so much a peace agreement, as is often presented. There hasn't been any state of war between Israel and Saudi Arabia for quite some time.
In fact, over the years, they have grown closer militarily and have formed a covert alliance against Iran, as a response to the nuclear deal that Obama signed with Iran.
Netanyahu was by far the biggest critic of and the biggest obstacle to America trying to reach any sort of diplomatic understanding with the regime in Iran. Frustrated with the Obama administration for pursuing that route, Israel and Saudi Arabia grew closer in ties.
Though not so much officially, because of the optics. The vast majority of the Saudi population is very much anti Israel, and even though they are a monarchy and so you would think they could do what they want, the amount of radical religious thinking that exists in Saudi Arabia has always presented an internal threat to their rule. So they need the optics of at least getting something for the Palestinians in exchange for officially recognizing Israel and normalizing relations.
The details on what those concessions were going to be are vague, though the general impression is that it would involve some amount of increased autonomy for the Palestianian Authority or PA, the government of the West Bank, along with freezing the expansion of settlements. So really not much of a game changer for the Palestians in the West Bank, let alone in Gaza, which seems to have been left out of the considerations altogether.
Although the Saudis did negotiate some wins for themselves, including a defense pact with the United States and assistance with developing nuclear energy.
Which kind of emphasizes the point. Historically, the idea was that broader recognition of Israel by the Arab and even broader Muslim world was a bargaining chip that was to be withheld until they resolved the situation with the Palestinians, the assumed framework being a two state solution.
By seeking to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia and some of the gulf states which was seen as a launching pad for broader recognition of Israel in other Muslim countries, Israel was attempting to bypass the idea of having to resolve the Palestinian issue before getting broader recognition in that part of the world. Their mechanism for doing so was citing their mutual opposition to Iran as grounds for a common cause. Netanyahu makes this clear here:
you'll notice this video was posted less than a month before the Hamas attack. so this was what Netanyahu was saying about the prospective deal at the time. The red marker speech he refers to in this video was made in 2012, while the Obama administration was still considering negotiations with Iran.
Another dimension to consider is Saudi Arabia. They are enemies with Iran for a number of reasons. The obvious recent one being the prolonged civil war in Yemen, in which Iran is funding Shia militants known as the Houthis. These same rebels not coincidentally have declared war on Israel in response to the latest Gaza war. Yet another reminder that Iran has many such vectors of soft power in the region.
Even though concerns about Iran have drawn Saudi Arabia and Israel closer together, the Saudis are not so cut and dry as far as being an ally. Just 8 months ago they enraged Netanyahu and his regime as well as spooked the US when they apparently decided to enter into a normalization process with Iran, in a deal brokered by China.
And yet, despite this apparent pivot, we ended up back in the situation in the months leading up to Oct 7th, with the United States apparently putting extensive effort into brokering a normalization deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Part of the reason the Saudis might have been drifting out of Washington's orbit could have been Biden's early disposition to the regime. I think this segment from Mehdi Hasan's show where he was criticizing this deal highlights a few important details. This video is long but really I'm only referencing 2 specific parts for clues. Here's the video and below I will identify the points I want to cite.
The first is at the very beginning of the video, around 2:20 where Hasan shows Biden on the campaign trail condemning Mohammed bin Salman and the Saudi regime. He then notes the subsequent change of attitude Biden has taken, including fist bumping MBS and touting the prospects of the normalization process as a "mega-deal."
14:07-15:30 He highlights concerns about Saudi Arabia getting nuclear energy because it's not clear they don't want nuclear weapons, including a video of MBS saying that if Iran got a nuke, Saudi Arabia would have to get one.
So these details combine to give some insight on not only the change of heart MBS had, but also how this deal could have easily ended up leading to a nuclear arms race between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Another interesting detail is that in addition to us having clear statements from both Netanyahu and MBS regarding their attitudes towards the normalization process in the run up to Oct 7th, we also have a similar statement the leader of Iran. This is him from Oct 3.
So the Saudis are "betting on the wrong horse," and Israel will "soon be eradicated by the Palestinians." Obviously that doesn't prove anything as far as knowing what was going to happen, since I'm pretty sure they are always predicting Israel's eradication but it's pretty clear what their stance towards the prospective deal is and where their interests lie. Not that this should be any mystery, considering that Netanyahu made it crystal clear that Iran was a major target of said alliance.
Whatever progress was made on pursuing a normalization deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel doesn't seem to matter now because with Israel bombing Gaza, Saudi Arabia naturally pivoted once more, not necessarily towards Iran though somewhat distancing themselves from Isreal.
In fact you might wonder why any of this matters if say Hamas carried out the attacks without consulting Iran, which seems likely enough considering there's no hard evidence to the contrary. It would still matter because since the war in Gaza has started, Iranian proxies have not only been striking US assets (not personnel in most cases, from what I understand) but Hezbollah, their main proxy has also been ratcheting up tensions with Israel. Regardless of how the conflict started, the longer it goes on the more opportunities there are for it to expand.
Iran has a number of vectors for soft power in the region, but Hezbollah are by far their biggest asset. Iran gives them 700m annually in military aid and they are the largest non state military in the world, operating out of the failed state of Lebanon which has no control over them. They have a massive arsenal of missiles, some of which are quite advanced. Israel cannot properly defend against an all out missile attack launched by Hezbollah. That's an inherent vulnerability Israel has had for some time and it's also a useful form of deterrence for direct attacks against Iran. If the John Boltons of the world got their way for example, and we pursued a policy of regime change in Iran as we did in Iraq, Iran could unleash hellfire on Israel in retaliation via Hezbollah.
For that reason, Iran isn't necessarily eager to have Hezbollah launch their missiles at Israel and turn this into a two front war, because then they lose that significant deterrence.
So far they haven't gotten significantly involved in the conflict, despite posturing that they might be willing to do so. By providing a sense of ambiguity as to their intentions, they keep Israel on alert which potentially deviates some of their attention from the war. But so far I think it's safe to say they've been a non factor.
That's a good thing, because if they did get involved, unlike with Hamas, Iran might be implicated by default in the eyes of US and Israel. Their ties are far too close to overlook that relationship.
This is why I gave up on this post lol cause I don't know how to not go on tangent after tangent on this topic.
At least read the bolded portion at the end. I don't expect you to read that entire post. The long and short of it is that Iran is a powerful and active player in the region with a number of vectors of soft power with which to prod at their enemies. The Houthis in Yemen are one of these proxies.
I sort of slept on the Houthis early on. It has been apparent since soon after the war in Gaza thar the Houthis and other Iranian proxies in Iraq and Syria were ratcheting up hostilities towards Israeli and American assets. Though as I mentioned in my post these attacks have shown a certain restraint in terms of inflicting bloodshed. Instead they seem to be targeting rather expensive equipment and assets, often using comparably cheap drones, in a cyberpunk 21th century form of asymmetric warfare.
But though I was aware of the Houthis and the escalation on that front, I regarded it as a sort of sideline skirmish, while considering the potential involvement of Hezbollah as the main threat of expansion of this conflict, as you will probably notice in the bolded section of that post of mine I quoted.
What I was failing to realize was the geography allowed the houthis much more leverage than I was anticipating, since the ships going through the Suez Canal also have to pass through the Bab al-Mandab strait, and the Houthis have made it so dangerous that ships are literally opting to sail all the way around Africa instead. Which needless to say is pretty bad for business.
For a while the US has been studiously trying to avoid a lot of these hostilities, wanting nothing less than to actually get dragged into another mid east conflict. But it seems to me we are closer than ever to that happening once again.
Houthis are basically acting like pirates and saying they align with Hamas and support them.
US and UK got involved to stop them from terrorizing merchants in the Red Sea or that's the current story.
Hundreds of UK postal workers wrongly accused of fraud to have convictions overturned (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hundreds-uk-postal-workers-wrongly-accused-fraud-convictions-106252410)QuoteLONDON -- Britain's Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said Wednesday he will introduce measures to overturn the convictions of more than 900 post office branch managers who were wrongly accused of theft or fraud because of a faulty computer system.
Sunak said the scandal, which saw hundreds of postmasters falsely convicted of stealing money because Post Office computers wrongly showed that funds were missing from their shops, was "one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in our nation's history."
Of the more than 900 postal branch managers who were convicted of theft or fraud between 1999 and 2015, just 95 have managed to overturn their convictions, Post Office minister Kevin Hollinrake said.
Some were sent to prison, and many were financially ruined after being forced to pay large sums to the state-owned Post Office. Several killed themselves. In total, over 2,000 people were affected by the scandal.
The real culprit was a defective accounting software package called Horizon, supplied by the Japanese technology firm Fujitsu, which was rolled out across Post Office branches starting in the late 1990s.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 16, 2024, 01:37 PMHundreds of UK postal workers wrongly accused of fraud to have convictions overturned (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hundreds-uk-postal-workers-wrongly-accused-fraud-convictions-106252410)
^ Yeah, this is a very sad story to me, because most of the victims were ordinary mom+pop shopkeeper types who found themselves in a real-life Kafkaesque situation, condemned by the false evidence in the Horizon computer system. It's taken 20 years, and a TV prog to bring this case to people's attention; that's a long time if you were a victim :(
Will Post Office officials and the Fujitsu company be held accountable? Well, the boss lady of the PO has returned her some medal she received, which is a very small symbolic gesture, and the Fujitsu company is still picking up lucrative long-term contracts with the Brit govt., who seem to be adopting a policy of "better the devil you know" when it comes to outsourcing IT work to foreign-owned companies.
Oh man, that post office case is awful. It shows how helpless you can be against the system, even when you have the truth on your side.
Is there a documentary on this on some streaming service?
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 16, 2024, 03:26 PMOh man, that post office case is awful. It shows how helpless you can be against the system, even when you have the truth on your side.
Is there a documentary on this on some streaming service?
Yes mate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office
French Farmers make a Pungent Protest (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-farmer-protest-manure-toulouse/) :poop:
Lol wowwwww.
Satanic prayer opens Washoe County Commission meeting; Clara Andriola walks out (https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2024/01/16/satanic-prayer-opens-washoe-county-commission-meeting/72247424007/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 16, 2024, 01:37 PMHundreds of UK postal workers wrongly accused of fraud to have convictions overturned (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hundreds-uk-postal-workers-wrongly-accused-fraud-convictions-106252410)
Why was Fujitsu awarded billions of poundsworth of govt contracts even after their Horizon program was known to be faulty? At least the govt bodies whose chose Fujitsu after they knew about the c*ck up with the Post Office are now being asked to explain their choice:-
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68039961
Who knows what this long slow process of inquiry might reveal about govt incompetency or corruption?
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jan 20, 2024, 02:03 PMWhy was Fujitsu awarded billions of poundsworth of govt contracts even after their Horizon program was known to be faulty? At least the govt bodies whose chose Fujitsu after they knew about the c*ck up with the Post Office are now being asked to explain their choice:-
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68039961
Who knows what this long slow process of inquiry might reveal about govt incompetency or corruption?
My cynical take on this is that it probably has more to do with corruption than incompetence.
Tech CEO plunges to death during grand on-stage entrance at company party (https://nypost.com/2024/01/20/news/video-shows-tech-vistex-ceo-plunge-to-death-at-india-company-party/)
What the...
Daily Mail - Woman who 'married' a ragdoll admits their family life is 'complicated' after she had 'twins' - and says her husband is stressed about providing for the family (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12972635/Woman-married-ragdoll-family-life-complicated.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/17/07/80118487-12972635-image-a-1_1705477570721.jpg)
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jan 23, 2024, 03:02 PMWhat the...
Daily Mail - Woman who 'married' a ragdoll admits their family life is 'complicated' after she had 'twins' - and says her husband is stressed about providing for the family (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12972635/Woman-married-ragdoll-family-life-complicated.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/17/07/80118487-12972635-image-a-1_1705477570721.jpg)
It's those kinds of dolls where they move when no one is looking. She got pregnant by closing her eyes for long enough
The "children" have definitely got their dad's eyes and hair.
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jan 23, 2024, 03:02 PMWhat the...
Daily Mail - Woman who 'married' a ragdoll admits their family life is 'complicated' after she had 'twins' - and says her husband is stressed about providing for the family (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12972635/Woman-married-ragdoll-family-life-complicated.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/17/07/80118487-12972635-image-a-1_1705477570721.jpg)
She looks happy, bet the arguments are wild
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jan 23, 2024, 03:02 PMWhat the...
Daily Mail - Woman who 'married' a ragdoll admits their family life is 'complicated' after she had 'twins' - and says her husband is stressed about providing for the family (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12972635/Woman-married-ragdoll-family-life-complicated.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/17/07/80118487-12972635-image-a-1_1705477570721.jpg)
It's this kind of junk 'news' that makes me unable to stop reading the Daily Mail lol
Reefer Madness (https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/news/bryn-spejcher-the-california-woman-who-fatally-stabbed-boyfriend-108-times-sentenced-to-probation-community-service/) QuoteThe California woman who was convicted of killing her boyfriend by stabbing him 108 times during a "cannabis-induced psychosis" received a slap on the wrist Tuesday.
Bryn Spejcher, 33, was sentenced to two years' probation and was ordered to perform 100 hours of community service after being found guilty of killing her new boyfriend, Chad O'Melia, according to the Ventura County Star.
It's a gas, gas, gas (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68085513?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
The US seems so strict, but then you get a slap on the wrist for killing someone in a drug induced nightmare? 🤔
Weird.
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 26, 2024, 05:23 PMThe US seems so strict, but then you get a slap on the wrist for killing someone in a drug induced nightmare? 🤔
Weird.
"The United States is a nation of laws, badly written and randomly enforced."
- Frank Zappa
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 26, 2024, 05:23 PMThe US seems so strict, but then you get a slap on the wrist for killing someone in a drug induced nightmare? 🤔
Weird.
Not even saying she should go to jail but at least commit her. This is not how weed works, there's something wrong with her psyche and she could be a danger again.
Italian net closes in on 'Fleximan' - vigilante destroyer of speed cameras (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68103948?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
EU Parliament probes a Latvian lawmaker after media allegations that she spied for Russia (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/eu-parliament-probes-latvian-lawmaker-after-media-allegations-106797271) :pimp:
Sex noises from San Diego massage parlor interrupt church services, lead to prostitution bust (https://nypost.com/2024/02/04/news/sex-noises-from-san-diego-massage-parlor-interrupt-church-services-lead-to-prostitution-bust-report/) :pimp:
From the comments section...
QuoteGee, you would'a thought the screams of "Oh GOD!" would fit right in....
Russian wife shared bed with husband's mummified corpse for 4 years, performed occult rituals (https://nypost.com/2024/02/06/news/russian-wife-shared-bed-with-husbands-mummified-corpse/)
Tucker Carlson to interview Russia's Putin (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68223148?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)
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Snoop Dogg sues Walmart and Post, claiming they sabotaged cereal brands (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walmart-lawsuit-snoop-dogg-post-cereal/)
Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot radio tower stolen (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-station-disbelief-200-foot-radio-tower-stolen-rcna137877)QuoteRadio station WJLX can no longer broadcast its AM programming since the incident.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 09, 2024, 02:13 PMAlabama station in disbelief after 200-foot radio tower stolen (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-station-disbelief-200-foot-radio-tower-stolen-rcna137877)
Paul Bunyan named as potential suspect.
Isn't bunyan another word for warts on your feet or something?
Quote from: Guybrush on Feb 10, 2024, 08:45 AMIsn't bunyan another word for warts on your feet or something?
And a genital wart on a man is called pole bunyan.
Quote from: Guybrush on Feb 10, 2024, 08:45 AMIsn't bunyan another word for warts on your feet or something?
lol. A bunion (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bunions/symptoms-causes/syc-20354799) is a bulge on the side of the first knuckle of your big toe caused by habitually wearing shoes that are too tight. What's that called in Norwegian?
That said, Paul Bunyan is a giant lumberjack from North American folklore.
This story is nuts! (https://nypost.com/2024/02/09/news/transgender-woman-loses-bid-to-sue-ex-over-surgically-removed-nuts/)
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Patient died after surgical robot burned hole in organs: lawsuit (https://nypost.com/2024/02/09/lifestyle/colon-cancer-patient-died-after-surgical-robot-burned-hole-in-organs-lawsuit/)
Banning sex in rentals (https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ema8/no-sex-tenancy-clauses-landlords)
What's going on in the UK?
No sex just because the landlord doesn't want you to?
First M1 Abrams Tank Destroyed In Ukraine (https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2024/02/26/first-m1-abrams-tank-destroyed-in-ukraine-social-media-reacted/?sh=7dfd45f1f3f2)
New Mexico teacher had students duel with swords in class, leading to serious injury of teen girl, lawsuit says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-mexico-teacher-students-duel-swords-class-leading-serious-injury-t-rcna140961)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 29, 2024, 04:32 PMNew Mexico teacher had students duel with swords in class, leading to serious injury of teen girl, lawsuit says (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-mexico-teacher-students-duel-swords-class-leading-serious-injury-t-rcna140961)
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Quote from: SGR on Feb 29, 2024, 06:11 PM(https://j.gifs.com/G5omML.gif)
The school is probably a designated as a "gun free zone" so I guess that duelling pistols were out of the question.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 29, 2024, 06:17 PMThe school is probably a designated as a "gun free zone" so I guess that duelling pistols were out of the question.
For safety reasons, next year they're going to switch to morningstars.
'Iron Man' pilots race in jet suits against a backdrop of Dubai skyscrapers (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dubais-sky-high-aspirations-find-new-outlet-hosts-107637618)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 01, 2024, 03:38 PM'Iron Man' pilots race in jet suits against a backdrop of Dubai skyscrapers (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dubais-sky-high-aspirations-find-new-outlet-hosts-107637618)
Is that how they're planning to get the escorts in Dubai, now?
U.S. Media ADMITS Russia's Economy Booming Despite Western Sanctions!
Who says the French are useless?
News Alert: France becomes world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in constitution
France became the world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution on Monday, the culmination of an effort that began in direct response to the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Lawmakers from both houses of the French Parliament voted 780 to 72 in favor of the measure, easily clearing the three-fifths majority needed to amend the French constitution.
Monday's vote, held during a special gathering of lawmakers at the Palace of Versailles, southwest of Paris, was the final step in the legislative process. The French Senate and National Assembly each overwhelmingly approved the amendment earlier this year.
The amendment states that there is a "guaranteed freedom" to abortion in France. Some groups and lawmakers had called for stronger language to explicitly call abortion a "right."
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 04, 2024, 07:32 PMWho says the French are useless?
News Alert: France becomes world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in constitution
France became the world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution on Monday, the culmination of an effort that began in direct response to the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Lawmakers from both houses of the French Parliament voted 780 to 72 in favor of the measure, easily clearing the three-fifths majority needed to amend the French constitution.
Monday's vote, held during a special gathering of lawmakers at the Palace of Versailles, southwest of Paris, was the final step in the legislative process. The French Senate and National Assembly each overwhelmingly approved the amendment earlier this year.
The amendment states that there is a "guaranteed freedom" to abortion in France. Some groups and lawmakers had called for stronger language to explicitly call abortion a "right."
Well done, France 👏
(https://pitchfork.com/news/sinead-oconnor-estate-condemns-biblical-devil-donald-trumps-use-of-nothing-compares-2-u-at-rallies/)
https://pitchfork.com/news/sinead-oconnor-estate-condemns-biblical-devil-donald-trumps-use-of-nothing-compares-2-u-at-rallies/
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 04, 2024, 07:32 PMWho says the French are useless?
News Alert: France becomes world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in constitution
France became the world's first country to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution on Monday, the culmination of an effort that began in direct response to the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Lawmakers from both houses of the French Parliament voted 780 to 72 in favor of the measure, easily clearing the three-fifths majority needed to amend the French constitution.
Monday's vote, held during a special gathering of lawmakers at the Palace of Versailles, southwest of Paris, was the final step in the legislative process. The French Senate and National Assembly each overwhelmingly approved the amendment earlier this year.
The amendment states that there is a "guaranteed freedom" to abortion in France. Some groups and lawmakers had called for stronger language to explicitly call abortion a "right."
The French are still useless. One good thing doesn't make up for everything else.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 09, 2024, 10:43 PMThe French are still useless. One good thing doesn't make up for everything else.
Us Americans wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War without the French. For that, I'll always have big soft spot for them.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 09, 2024, 11:00 PMUs Americans wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War without the French. For that, I'll always have big soft spot for them.
They have no love for you as an American. When you go to visit their country they don't care about you unless you are French.
Apparently pretty much every European country appreciates it when you try to speak their language when you're there, even if it's a few words. They appreciate the effort.
Except for the French. Who apparently just get annoyed and impatient.
I like a lot of things about France but my experience with the French is limited to just a French uncle.
@Dianne W thoughts?
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 09, 2024, 10:43 PMThe French are still useless. One good thing doesn't make up for everything else.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 09, 2024, 11:36 PMApparently pretty much every European country appreciates it when you try to speak their language when you're there, even if it's a few words. They appreciate the effort.
Except for the French. Who apparently just get annoyed and impatient.
I like a lot of things about France but my experience with the French is limited to just a French uncle.
@Dianne W thoughts?
in my experience that's a cliche that's not true. I've been in France a lot, I usually communicate in my scant French, and I've never had any unpleasant experience. The British are just odd about the french so I think that's how that notion came about
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 09, 2024, 11:36 PMApparently pretty much every European country appreciates it when you try to speak their language when you're there, even if it's a few words. They appreciate the effort.
Except for the French. Who apparently just get annoyed and impatient.
I like a lot of things about France but my experience with the French is limited to just a French uncle.
@Dianne W thoughts?
That's what American tourist experience too. Even while attempting to speak French if you aren't Parisienne. You get treated like trash.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 10, 2024, 02:02 PMThat's what American tourist experience too. Even while attempting to speak French if you aren't Parisienne. You get treated like trash.
Maybe a Parisian thing not specifically French?
I can certainly believe that.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 10, 2024, 02:39 PMMaybe a Parisian thing not specifically French?
I can certainly believe that.
Possibly more localized to Paris itself and not a French thing overall.
I'm willing to concede that point.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 10, 2024, 01:00 PMin my experience that's a cliche that's not true. I've been in France a lot, I usually communicate in my scant French, and I've never had any unpleasant experience. The British are just odd about the french so I think that's how that notion came about
Same for me. I'm in France quite often and speak my rudimentary French every time. Never any bad experiences.
Quote from: grindy on Mar 10, 2024, 02:50 PMSame for me. I'm in France quite often and speak my rudimentary French every time. Never any bad experiences.
What parts of France though?
I've been to pretty much every region of france except normandy and Brittany and it's always fine, including in paris
Quote from: SGR on Mar 09, 2024, 11:00 PMUs Americans wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War without the French. For that, I'll always have big soft spot for them.
I will always have a big hard spot for them.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 10, 2024, 04:17 PMI will always have a big hard spot for them.
Get it posted in the workout thread then :devil:
By the way, although it hasn't happened to me, I can imagine some Parisians get impatient with tourists but I don't really blame them. I know what it's like having lived in Amsterdam, I'm impatient with the tourists there too, when they're obnoxious at least
Why do you get impatient with the tourists?
because they walk on the bike lanes, get in the way in general and are unnecessarily loud, and they're disrespectful towards the prostitutes
tourists are generally very unaware of local customs and don't even try to avoid being obtrusive, which causes much more inconvenience than you might realise
We get tourists here though I've never been impatient with them. I know it won't be the same level of London but still.
Amsterdam does attract people going there for a certain type of thing so I believe you but also makes me think there might be truth to the Parisian thing.
Maybe I should go and find out.
Paris ...Amsterdam...London. I imagine it's a big-city thing everywhere, that tourists can kind of get in the way. It's understandable, of course, that a newcomer isn't going to catch on to how things are done locally, and that shows up more in big cities, where lots of people are rushing round on their tight schedules, trying to spend as little time as possible getiing from A to B. And the tourists? Those lucky b+stards are on vacation, doing everything wrong and doing it too slowly as well. Get out of my way, go to the back of the queue! I'm late for work!! :laughing:
It's not to be underestimated how disruptive the Amsterdam/central London/Paris levels of tourism are compared to most other cities and places. If you live in Amsterdam, you should be able to ride your bike from A to B in a reasonable way. It's not just a city thing though. I also partly grew up in a village which is a hugely popular tourist destination, and the tourists would be a nuisance there too. On one occasion they strolled into the garden and stood looking in at our kitchen window as we were having breakfast. Many tourists are shockingly entitled and have no grasp of the fact that people actually have to live in the place they're visiting and that as a tourist, you're a guest and should act as such
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 10, 2024, 11:39 PMIt's not to be underestimated how disruptive the Amsterdam/central London/Paris levels of tourism are compared to most other cities and places. If you live in Amsterdam, you should be able to ride your bike from A to B in a reasonable way. It's not just a city thing though. I also partly grew up in a village which is a hugely popular tourist destination, and the tourists would be a nuisance there too. On one occasion they strolled into the garden and stood looking in at our kitchen window as we were having breakfast. Many tourists are shockingly entitled and have no grasp of the fact that people actually have to live in the place they're visiting and that as a tourist, you're a guest and should act as such
That'd boil my piss but :laughing:
Thanks for cheering me up a bit.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 09, 2024, 11:31 PMThey have no love for you as an American. When you go to visit their country they don't care about you unless you are French.
Even if that's true, it doesn't bother me. The French played an integral role in helping us in our history, and even if the average French person don't have love for us now, I'll always have love for them. It probably helps that I have French ancestry.
I've been in France a couple of times and while they're sometimes direct in a way Norwegians would consider rude (not that it offends me), I don't feel like I've been treated badly. Actually they seem kinda fascinated with Norwegians 🤔
French people on the whole often seem interesting to me, being colorful and opinionated. A lot of good looking women in a handsome way and cute boys. Less boring than Norwegians on average. I like them.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 09, 2024, 11:00 PMUs Americans wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War without the French. For that, I'll always have big soft spot for them.
:yikes: ...but think of what you have lost, SGR !! The right to claim kinship with the Brits and the privilege of paying taxes to help support our royal family.
On the topic of which, is this weird, forensic examimation of a photo which is now taking place:-
(https://www.frontpages.com/t/2024/03/11/the-daily-telegraph-031354416.webp)
It's not a case of "I can't believe that news story" so much as "I can't believe that that's a news story."
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Mar 11, 2024, 01:56 PM:yikes: ...but think of what you have lost, SGR !! The right to claim kinship with the Brits and the privilege of paying taxes to help support our royal family.
On the topic of which, is this weird, forensic examimation of a photo which is now taking place:-
(https://www.frontpages.com/t/2024/03/11/the-daily-telegraph-031354416.webp)
It's not a case of "I can't believe that news story" so much as "I can't believe that that's a news story."
I don't live in the UK, nor have I ever been, and yet I still see multiple puff pieces about them every single week. Harry and Meghan are the worst. I'd implore you to take them back, but I have no faith that would result in me hearing about them any less.
I'll take news stories about the Kardashians any day over the royals, lol
Quote from: Guybrush on Mar 11, 2024, 12:34 AMI've been in France a couple of times and while they're sometimes direct in a way Norwegians would consider rude (not that it offends me), I don't feel like I've been treated badly. Actually they seem kinda fascinated with Norwegians 🤔
French people on the whole often seem interesting to me, being colorful and opinionated. A lot of good looking women in a handsome way and cute boys. Less boring than Norwegians on average. I like them.
I've met rude people in France, just like I've met some amount of rude people anywhere I've been, but overall French people are fairly friendly in my experience. The two rudest people I met while visiting Paris were both Italian. :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Mar 11, 2024, 02:24 PMI don't live in the UK, nor have I ever been, and yet I still see multiple puff pieces about them every single week. Harry and Meghan are the worst. I'd implore you to take them back, but I have no faith that would result in me hearing about them any less.
I'll take news stories about the Kardashians any day over the royals, lol
:laughing: Yes, the Kardashians at least look sexier afaik, and I totally agree about Harry and Megs: their constant whining about the victimhood of being so rich is pretty difficult to take.
I wonder if anyone in the US has been watching the Netflix series
The Crown ? Even if you have zero sympathy for the central characters, it does a great job of recreating the atmosphere surrounding Britain and the royals, plus lots of beautiful houses, cars, etc. It might even turn you into an enthusiastic monarchist, SGR ;)
What I don't get about Harry and Meghan (more so Harry) is if they want privacy then why put themselves in the media so frequently? Oprah interview and that book for example.
It's also weird how their biggest fans tend to be staunch anti-Royalists. They do realise Harry and Meghan are both still Royals don't they?
3-year-old in driver's seat of truck that fatally struck 2-year-old (https://abcnews.go.com/US/3-year-drivers-seat-truck-woodland-california-fatal-crash/story?id=108277253)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 12, 2024, 01:04 AMWhat I don't get about Harry and Meghan (more so Harry) is if they want privacy then why put themselves in the media so frequently? Oprah interview and that book for example.
I think Harry probably has no idea how to just be a normal person not in the public eye.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68632034
QuoteLabour leader Sir Keir Starmer has called on Nike to change a new England football shirt featuring different colours in the cross of St George.
Nike says the shirt, launched ahead of Euro 2024, includes a "playful update" to the cross "to unite and inspire".
But it has been criticised for featuring navy, light blue and purple in a flag on the back of the collar.
The US firm said the colours were inspired by the training kit worn by England's 1966 World Cup winners.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/198A/production/_132983560_nikeshirt.jpg.webp)
TL;DR Nike 'pride-ified' the St George's cross.
The shirt "includes a playful update to the cross to unite and inspire". I think that's OK, if it actually unites and inspires them to go and win the f*cking competition :banghead:
Quote from: Saulaac on Mar 22, 2024, 01:19 AMThe shirt "includes a playful update to the cross to unite and inspire". I think that's OK, if it actually unites and inspires them to go and win the f*cking competition :banghead:
Are you English? Thought you were Aussie. Do you want England to win?
I'm English as far as being born in St. Mary's Hospital in Manchester and growing up in Macclesfield, but then moved to France in my teens. So I'll defo be rooting for England. If it's an England v France final then it gets complicated.
(I think Meatwad and Stephen are the resident Aussies on here.)
Kate Middleton has cancer.
Breaking right now.
Get well soon Kate ❤️
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 22, 2024, 07:04 PMKate Middleton has cancer.
Breaking right now.
Get well soon Kate ❤️
So many wild conspiracies came out leading up to that announcement. 😳
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 24, 2024, 02:24 PMSo many wild conspiracies came out leading up to that announcement. 😳
They are but I think something is a bit off anyway but I can't describe it.
They Royals never disclose info about health issues really and now we've had two senior Royals in a month go public with a cancer diagnosis. The Queen was believed to have died from it too.
People used to joke about how the Royal Family never gets cancer.
I dunno.
Maybe there is absolutely nothing to it and they're just being more open now.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 24, 2024, 04:34 PMThey are but I think something is a bit off anyway but I can't describe it.
They Royals never disclose info about health issues really and now we've had two senior Royals in a month go public with a cancer diagnosis. The Queen was believed to have died from it too.
People used to joke about how the Royal Family never gets cancer.
I dunno.
Maybe there is absolutely nothing to it and they're just being more open now.
Well I feel like she had to go public because it was getting to a fever pitch, with people trying to steal her medical records and leaking her condition.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 24, 2024, 04:38 PMWell I feel like she had to go public because it was getting to a fever pitch, with people trying to steal her medical records and leaking her condition.
Fair point. Could just be that.
Correction BTW it's actually three Royals in three months as Duchess Ferguson has got cancer as well.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 24, 2024, 04:41 PMFair point. Could just be that.
Correction BTW it's actually three Royals in three months as Duchess Ferguson has got cancer as well.
Oh wow didn't know she has cancer as well.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 22, 2024, 12:08 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68632034
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/198A/production/_132983560_nikeshirt.jpg.webp)
TL;DR Nike 'pride-ified' the St George's cross.
Why do politicians care what's on a sports jersey? And what exactly is the complaint anyway, it's not red?
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 07:24 PMWhy do politicians care what's on a sports jersey? And what exactly is the complaint anyway, it's not red?
It's not about the shirt, it's about the national flag. And the issue is that it's a political message and Nike have altered the flag for that message.
This cargo shipping company is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
I can't imagine how horrifying it must have been to be on that bridge when it collapsed. Nothing in life would ever prepare you for that.
Fair play to the officials who rushed to close the bridge to traffic though. Many lives were saved that would otherwise have been lost. I bet for a short time this was thought to be a new terrorist attack. Any figures on the death toll? I know everyone on the ship is all right but a lot of cars went into the river anyway.
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 26, 2024, 08:07 PMFair play to the officials who rushed to close the bridge to traffic though. Many lives were saved that would otherwise have been lost. I bet for a short time this was thought to be a new terrorist attack. Any figures on the death toll? I know everyone on the ship is all right but a lot of cars went into the river anyway.
No word on the # of casualties yet I don't think. We don't know the cause yet, so it's still possible it was a cyber-terrorist attack, but that seems somewhat unlikely (because this doesn't really track with patterns of other terrorist attacks, and the disaster happened at a time when there'd be the fewest number of people on the bridge). They better damn well have a good explanation for why it happened though.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 07:45 PMIt's not about the shirt, it's about the national flag. And the issue is that it's a political message and Nike have altered the flag for that message.
What's the political message? I thought they said it was based on some design from some event in the 60s or something.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 08:35 PMWhat's the political message? I thought they said it was based on some design from some event in the 60s or something.
That's what they've said but it looks nothing like the 66 jacket. It's obviously based on the pride flags.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 09:12 PMThat's what they've said but it looks nothing like the 66 jacket. It's obviously based on the pride flags.
It looks absolutely nothing like a pride flag.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 09:44 PMIt looks absolutely nothing like a pride flag.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual_flag
Course not. Looks more like that than the jacket in the article. You'd never admit it anyway though.
I'm not seeing it either. The bi flag is top-down magenta, purple, blue. The symbol on the jersey is dark blue, lighter blue, purple.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 26, 2024, 09:49 PMI'm not seeing it either. The bi flag is top-down magenta, purple, blue. The symbol on the jersey is dark blue, lighter blue, purple.
The colours are reversed on the other half of the cross and magenta is a shade of purple. Anyway I didn't say it was exactly the same I said it looks like it and it certainly does. And it definitely looks more like it than the explanation given by Nike. There was no purple on the training kit.
Also, Nike have changed the flag before for other reasons in the past also.
https://www.dezeen.com/2010/09/02/england-home-kit-by-peter-saville-for-umbro/
QuoteThe design for sports brand Umbro depicts the St. George's cross in four colours and is intended to represent the country's diverse cultural makeup.
(Nike owned Umbro during this time period.)
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 26, 2024, 09:49 PMI'm not seeing it either. The bi flag is top-down magenta, purple, blue. The symbol on the jersey is dark blue, lighter blue, purple.
Exactly!
@jimmy jazz I'd happily admit it if it actually looked like the bi flag, but it doesn't. A couple bands of color next to each other doesn't mean they are automatically supposed to be a pride flag.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 09:58 PMExactly!
@jimmy jazz I'd happily admit it if it actually looked like the bi flag, but it doesn't. A couple bands of color next to each other doesn't mean they are automatically supposed to be a pride flag.
That's not really the same thing. It can look like it without being one. Obviously it isn't a pride flag. It's a St George's cross in very similar colours. It absolutely looks similar.
I guess I'm just not getting what the problem is. It's three stripes of color, lots of non-pride flags use those too; unless those specific colors have been assigned a meaning by a community under the pride umbrella, then saying it's a pride flag just feels too nebulous to be much more than a personal theory.
Like, speaking as an LGBTQIA+ person myself, if this is meant to be a pro-pride political statement, they could make the statement a bit clearer lol.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 26, 2024, 10:07 PMI guess I'm just not getting what the problem is. It's three stripes of color, lots of non-pride flags use those too; unless those specific colors have been assigned a meaning by a community under the pride umbrella, then it just feels too nebulous to be much more than a personal theory.
That's fair enough if you don't see an issue. I don't think it's a big issue. But to say it looks 'nothing like it'...?
And as I posted above Nike have changed the colours of the cross in the past for reasons not related to design so it's not as if they wouldn't do it.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 10:02 PMThat's not really the same thing. It can look like it without being one. Obviously it isn't a pride flag. It's a St George's cross in very similar colours. It absolutely looks similar.
I would say it looks about as much like a pride flag as the German flag does.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/320px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png)
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 10:10 PMI would say it looks about as much like a pride flag as the German flag does.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/320px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png)
Yeah cos black and yellow are similar colours to blue and light blue.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 10:10 PMThat's fair enough if you don't see an issue. I don't think it's a big issue. But to say it looks 'nothing like it'...?
And as I posted above Nike have changed the colours of the cross in the past for reasons not related to design so it's not as if they wouldn't do it.
I guess I didn't word that first part super clearly, my bad. But I'm not talking about whether putting a pride flag on a jersey is a problem or not, I'm saying if they actually wanted to promote a pro-pride message, why wouldn't they use an actual pride flag and not just something that vaguely looks like it could be one?
I agree that the colours don't match the bi flag and tbh it also wouldn't make sense. If they were going for any kind of pride message, the bi flag would be a really random choice. Why wouldn't they do the rainbow flag then?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 10:13 PMYeah cos black and yellow are similar colours to blue and light blue.
No, because black, red, and yellow are all on the Philadelphia pride flag and the progress pride flag.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 26, 2024, 10:16 PMI agree that the colours don't match the bi flag and tbh it also wouldn't make sense. If they were going for any kind of pride message, the bi flag would be a really random choice. Why wouldn't they do the rainbow flag then?
I did not say this.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 26, 2024, 10:15 PMI guess I didn't word that first part super clearly, my bad. But I'm not talking about whether putting a pride flag on a jersey is a problem or not, I'm saying if they actually wanted to promote a pro-pride message, why wouldn't they use an actual pride flag and not just something that vaguely looks like it could be one?
Not sure other flags would be allowed on international shirts by FIFA. It's supposed to be a St George's cross.
Anyway you've a said vaguely looks like it, so can we at least agree the colours are similar? Not exactly the same, but similar.
I think it looks exactly like the Estonian flag. Well, similar at least.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 10:28 PMI think it looks exactly like the Estonian flag. Well, similar at least.
Shares fewer colours but you know that anyway. You can say they're similar and still think it's a non-issue you know.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 26, 2024, 10:34 PMShares fewer colours but you know that anyway. You can say they're similar and still think it's a non-issue you know.
I think it shares the same number of colors.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 26, 2024, 10:35 PMI think it shares the same number of colors.
Yeah whatever.
Janzoon's "shares the same number of colors" is techically correct in terms of maths (or math) so full marks for that quip :)
National flags shouldn't be messed with, otherwise we might as well mess with friggin anything. Or, just go with one single Earth flag and get it over and done with.
The LGBTIQ+ community are defo in a position to ask questions.
Instead of replacing the red and white, how about proposing to appear alongside the red and white.
Maybe Nike are testing the waters so to speak (to sell more shirts perhaps?).
Ps. And I was going to ask if this issue had anything to do with Jehovah's Witnesses and Saints, but I'll leave that question for another day :yikes:
Quote from: Saulaac on Mar 26, 2024, 11:16 PMJanzoon's "shares the same number of colors" is techically correct in terms of maths (or math) so full marks for that quip :)
National flags shouldn't be messed with, otherwise we might as well mess with friggin anything. Or, just go with one single Earth flag and get it over and done with.
The LGBTIQ+ community are defo in a position to ask questions.
Instead of replacing the red and white, how about proposing to appear alongside the red and white.
Maybe Nike are testing the waters so to speak (to sell more shirts perhaps?).
Ps. And I was going to ask if this issue had anything to do with Jehovah's Witnesses and Saints, but I'll leave that question for another day :yikes:
Wait, how do the Jehovah's Witnesses factor into this? Did I miss something?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 22, 2024, 12:08 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68632034
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TL;DR Nike 'pride-ified' the St George's cross.
Quote from: Saulaac on Mar 22, 2024, 01:19 AMThe shirt "includes a playful update to the cross to unite and inspire". I think that's OK, if it actually unites and inspires them to go and win the f*cking competition :banghead:
^ If that was their intention, then it's a spectacular fail by Nike as far as I can tell.
lol lisna
About the comment that national flags should not be messed with; few countries have national flags in the neck of their football jersey anyway, it doesn't have any specific function there at all. The flags that signify which nations are playing are on the breast, of course those should not be altered because that would defeat their purpose. The cross on the back of the england jerseys is just decoration, why shouldn't you be able to play with the design? It's still a clearly recognisable reference to the English flag anyway
^ Yes, that's a good point, Marie. If the national symbol is clear enough elsewhere on the shirt, no real harm has been done - even if the little design seems to be causing some controversy.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it". That attitude stiffles innovation, I suppose, but I wish The Post Office (UK) had considered it before they embarked on this disastrous "Consignia" rebranding:-
QuoteIn an effort to compete with mail companies with brandlike names such as FedEx and UPS, in 2001 Britain's post office made the risky marketing decision to change its name from the hallowed Royal Mail — in use since it was first made available to the public by Charles I in 1635 — to the made-up Consignia. The post office's chief executive, John Roberts, called the new moniker "modern, meaningful and entirely appropriate," explaining that "the new name describes the full scope of what the post office does in a way that the words post and office cannot." A bewildered public, quite comfortable with the definitions of the words post and office, disagreed. A year later the company changed back.
The cost of this piece of arrogant marketing whimsey ? 1.5 million pounds to launch Consignia, then 1 million to change it back to the Post Office again.
Consignia eh? Sounds like Fat Tony made the Royal Mail an offer they couldn't refuse!
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Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 26, 2024, 11:49 PMlol lisna
About the comment that national flags should not be messed with; few countries have national flags in the neck of their football jersey anyway, it doesn't have any specific function there at all. The flags that signify which nations are playing are on the breast, of course those should not be altered because that would defeat their purpose. The cross on the back of the england jerseys is just decoration, why shouldn't you be able to play with the design? It's still a clearly recognisable reference to the English flag anyway
Fair enough. Just decoration. I don't think it is about decoration. I think it is about where everyone comes from.
What surprises me about the debate is that it exists at all, because there is a very reasonable, obvious and uncontroversial interpretation for the colour choice. If you think about it, the colour scheme makes perfect sense if you look at it from a design point of view. It simply connects the navy of the england kit (why do they have navy accents anyway instead of red, while we're at it? Would that be so much less reasonable to object to?) with the red of the flag (and it does so very effectively, I might add, I like the design). Consider that if the cross was red, it wouldn't be an England flag either because the background (the collar) is navy. Adding a white square in the middle of the blue would be jarring and not look good; this solution is subtle, gradually introducing the red which would otherwise be a bit out of place. The last time England had a cross in the neck of the jersey was in 2018, I think, and that one had the actual England flag colours, but the background colour was white so there that was a good choice. So the way I see it, there is a perfectly reasonable design-based justification for this which makes more sense than any conceptual explanations I've heard, and which just tries to blend the flag motif with the collar as harmoniously as possible instead of meaning any disrespect.
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 27, 2024, 12:47 AMWhat surprises me about the debate is that it exists at all, because there is a very reasonable, obvious and uncontroversial interpretation for the colour choice. If you think about it, the colour scheme makes perfect sense if you look at it from a design point of view. It simply connects the navy of the england kit (why do they have navy accents anyway instead of red, while we're at it? Would that be so much less reasonable to object to?) with the red of the flag (and it does so very effectively, I might add, I like the design).
I like the kits. That isn't the point though. Also there is purple on the flag but not the kit. And England have always had blue somewhere in the kit. It's just tradition.
QuoteConsider that if the cross was red, it wouldn't be an England flag either because the background (the collar) is navy.
It would still be the St. George's cross though.
QuoteAdding a white square in the middle of the blue would be jarring and not look good; this solution is subtle. The last time England had a cross in the neck of the jersey was in 2018, I think, and that one had the actual England flag colours, but the background colour was white so there that was a good choice. So the way I see it, there is a perfectly reasonable design-based justification for this which makes more sense than any conceptual explanations I've heard, and which just tries to blend the flag motif with the collar as harmoniously as possible instead of meaning any disrespect.
Its been done before and it looks fine.
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Quote from: Saulaac on Mar 27, 2024, 12:45 AMFair enough. Just decoration. I don't think it is about decoration. I think it is about where everyone comes from.
Well if it was then what's the bit about uniting people about?
The purple is to link the navy and red, that's what I was trying to say, it looks better than just putting a red cross in there without any transition. Also I realise that it's a matter of taste but I think that small English flag in the blue collar looks very bad. I know the blue in the English kit is tradition and everyone is used to it now, but still someone decided that those are the colours at some point and from a national symbolism point of view, why would that not be objectionable if this is?
About the unite and inspire, I wouldn't take that too seriously, football kit designers always come up with some pretentious nonsense to interpret their designs. Like the dark blue/light pink arsenal third(?) kit a few years ago was supposed to symbolise the vibe of the Emirates stadium at night lmao
Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 27, 2024, 01:08 AMThe purple is to link the navy and red, that's what I was trying to say, it looks better than just putting a red cross in there without any transition. Also I realise that it's a matter of taste but I think that small English flag in the blue collar looks very bad. I know the blue in the English kit is tradition and everyone is used to it now, but still someone decided that those are the colours at some point and from a national symbolism point of view, why would that not be objectionable if this is?
This was in the 1800s. You can't really compare that to now as there was no real image to the team back then and it wasn't really tied to the colour of the flag. The original kit was white shirts blue shorts, black socks. If they did that now people would likely object to it because the white socks are seen as the standard colours. Also, some people do object to blue in the kit because it isn't in the flag but most aren't bothered.
I don't mind them switching between all white, adding blue and adding red. Just as long as it isn't green or something.
Yeah, both navy and red look great on the England kit. I do dislike that Germany and Italy don't use their flag colours but that's just because I think they're better colour schemes than the ones they do use, wasted potential :p
The world would be a much better place, if people stopped taking symbolic shit like flags and such seriously in any way.
A recent example of a mass hysteria:
New study finds no brain injuries among 'Havana syndrome' patients (https://apnews.com/article/havana-syndrome-diplomat-health-brain-ea64e5c59d57e44a19aab40ac1b91e0d)
Quote from: SGR on Mar 27, 2024, 07:50 PMA recent example of a mass hysteria:
New study finds no brain injuries among 'Havana syndrome' patients (https://apnews.com/article/havana-syndrome-diplomat-health-brain-ea64e5c59d57e44a19aab40ac1b91e0d)
More hysteria:
Not as bad as High Anxiety!
Six believed dead in the Baltimore Bridge collapse, first two bodies recovered. :(
News Alert: 2 bodies found in truck under Baltimore bridge collapse as investigators end search for workers, police say
The bodies of two people were recovered from the Patapsco River Wednesday as officials searched the water after a container ship collision caused the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore.
Superintendent Col. Roland L. Butler said search and recovery efforts have ended for the four additional people who were on the structure and are presumed dead.
What the hell is going on with Diddy? Innocent until proven guilty, but this seems at surface level something similar to the honeypot operation with Epstein - what do you all think?
Feds search Sean 'Diddy' Combs' properties as part of sex trafficking probe, AP sources say (https://apnews.com/article/feds-search-diddy-combs-sex-trafficking-8883ed2c7308f3fcdb2cdf03fbe329d1)
Quote from: SGR on Mar 28, 2024, 11:14 PMWhat the hell is going on with Diddy? Innocent until proven guilty, but this seems at surface level something similar to the honeypot operation with Epstein - what do you all think?
Feds search Sean 'Diddy' Combs' properties as part of sex trafficking probe, AP sources say (https://apnews.com/article/feds-search-diddy-combs-sex-trafficking-8883ed2c7308f3fcdb2cdf03fbe329d1)
Barely followed it. Only know he's had his homes raided and that's it.
Seems very serious now if they're investigating trafficking so looks like for Diddy there is...
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/trollheart
He's gonna be in the slammer...
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The problem for him will be when there's a knock on the door and the Feds say "Come with me."
#TheRealTrollheart
#AcceptNoSubstitutes
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I love all the Diddler memes going around
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Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 10, 2024, 09:41 PMbecause they walk on the bike lanes, get in the way in general and are unnecessarily loud, and they're disrespectful towards the prostitutes
tourists are generally very unaware of local customs and don't even try to avoid being obtrusive, which causes much more inconvenience than you might realise
I missed this whole convo but I do get it how tourists can be annoying especially in big cities. In NYC, they walk so slow and don't follow the unspoken walking rules. I get it you are on vacation. Stand off to the side if you want to gaze at the skyscrapers. Don't do it whilst in the middle of walking traffic.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 29, 2024, 07:37 AMI missed this whole convo but I do get it how tourists can be annoying especially in big cities. In NYC, they walk so slow and don't follow the unspoken walking rules. I get it you are on vacation. Stand off to the side if you want to gaze at the skyscrapers. Don't do it whilst in the middle of walking traffic.
Maybe the people of New York could create a free-to-download 'Unwritten Rules of New York' manual for tourists.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 28, 2024, 11:14 PMWhat the hell is going on with Diddy? Innocent until proven guilty, but this seems at surface level something similar to the honeypot operation with Epstein - what do you all think?
Feds search Sean 'Diddy' Combs' properties as part of sex trafficking probe, AP sources say (https://apnews.com/article/feds-search-diddy-combs-sex-trafficking-8883ed2c7308f3fcdb2cdf03fbe329d1)
I always mix up P.Diddy and R.Kelly due to the somewhat similar names. Looks like this is not the only similarity.
Karma on Kuhio in Kauai (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inmate-escapes-hawaii-jail-dies-struck-hit-and-run-driver/)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 29, 2024, 11:04 AMMaybe the people of New York could create a free-to-download 'Unwritten Rules of New York' manual for tourists.
I'm sure there have been plenty of articles written about this. Not just walking rules but other tourist no nos for people visiting NYC for the first time. Just like when you are going down an escalator stand to the right if you are just riding down so people that are rushing to get somewhere can use the left side to walk down the escalator as it's going down to get wherever they are going quicker.
I got yelled at in a New York subway and also saw a rat. Such an exotic experience. It was great!
Would love to go back one day.
I seldom get the idea of people running/walking up/down escalators. I mean, the idea is to move you without you having to move your legs, so if you're in such a hurry why not take the stairs? People look at me oddly when I just stand there and let the escalator do what it was intended to do.
walking up the escalators is faster than walking up the stairs. Also sometimes there aren't any normal stairs around
also isn't that escalator rule universal? it's used in holland too
Yep, same in London.
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^ Escalator-goers behaving correctly on the Tube - but wait a minute, that looks like a tourist, bottom right. His clothes are way too summery; someone should tell him what to wear to fit in better:-
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Quote from: Marie Monday on Mar 30, 2024, 02:23 AMwalking up the escalators is faster than walking up the stairs. Also sometimes there aren't any normal stairs around
also isn't that escalator rule universal? it's used in holland too
Yeah it's most likely universal but there are people that will stand on the wrong side and just ride the escalator blocking the people that want to keep it moving by walking while on it.
Yep it's annoying
QuoteThe kidnapper and murderer is the mother of the girl's best friend and her husband, who kidnapped her yesterday when she was playing with her own daughter and asked for a $250,000 pesos ransom. The girl was found lifeless in a garbage bag in Taxco.
Camila's feminicide shocked the residents of Taxco, who, seeing that the authorities did not arrest those allegedly responsible, decided to do justice: the woman was beaten by the angry mob and died this afternoon.
Crazy story from Mexico. Gonna look for a link to the story.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mob-beats-death-suspected-child-kidnapper-mexico-taxco-rcna145600
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 29, 2024, 07:54 PMI'm sure there have been plenty of articles written about this. Not just walking rules but other tourist no nos for people visiting NYC for the first time. Just like when you are going down an escalator stand to the right if you are just riding down so people that are rushing to get somewhere can use the left side to walk down the escalator as it's going down to get wherever they are going quicker.
That's a universal escalator rule.
Two way portal(live camera) from NYC to Dublin (https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/a-portal-from-nyc-to-dublin-will-debut-near-the-flatiron-building-032724?fbclid=IwAR1UsSEwlJHHCiYWzZbsBUsRmnthjoQGqOSzxMU_l20zYOTrfB39b10yMt0)
Uh oh
Israeli airstrike in Damascus kills top Iranian general (https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-794796)
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2024/04/germany-to-change-number-4-design-after-nazi-comparisons.html
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Ruh-roh
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I love all the Diddler memes going around
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I won't lie, when the feds raided him, I had to go on Youtube and put this song on.
World's oldest man says secret to his longevity is luck, fish and chips (https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/worlds-oldest-man-secret-longevity-luck-regular-fish-108945523)
Security guard endures agonising 'suicide by snake' horror death after cops try and arrest him (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/security-guard-endures-agonising-suicide-32548620)
Quote from: SGR on Apr 09, 2024, 07:24 PMSecurity guard endures agonising 'suicide by snake' horror death after cops try and arrest him (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/security-guard-endures-agonising-suicide-32548620)
Weird choice.
Julian Assange's wife takes hope as Biden says U.S. considering dropping charges against WikiLeaks founder (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/julian-assange-biden-says-us-considering-dropping-charges-wikileaks/)
If ever a headline used too many acronyms!!
RSA needs to come before PAC over GDPR data revelations, says TD
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 09, 2024, 11:36 PMApparently pretty much every European country appreciates it when you try to speak their language when you're there, even if it's a few words. They appreciate the effort.
Except for the French. Who apparently just get annoyed and impatient.
I like a lot of things about France but my experience with the French is limited to just a French uncle.
@Dianne W thoughts?
The World is much the same when it comes to conversing...My thoughts after living here 10 years are that you just follow the 1st steps..You pass someone and it is normal to say Bonjour..you attend the Doctors surgery waiting room you enter and say Bonjour...pretty much everywhere you are greeted. Making friends is for me difficult as I am quite a fiery moody Gal...Can talk the birds out of the Trees sometimes but then I can be very shy and quiet as well...French neighbours we have only a few but get along regardless of age or gender...they like to kiss you on both cheeks and a third one is watch out..haha
I can't say I like the British so much though....I like the fact that you don't have to know what others are really saying so much, whilst people with the same tongue you can judge far to easily...and get things wrong still.
I speak mainly as I feel tbh and once you show me your true colours, I can then decide whether I want to speak with you or not. Like most people we are all different, so don't expect everyone to take to you either....
Languages I can speak a little French and Spang lish.. but not really good enough in truth... I now wish I had done as my late Father had done and went to evening college and learnt French as he wanted to Holiday in France, he likes to converse with people so was important for him... when I was young and able to take stuff in better than I do now..I have Dyslexia not so seriously as say one of my Grand Children who was tormented for her disability..My Sisters 3 children, which I had no idea for years and years have this also..they have all got really good careers so it does not have to be so bad really you just have to go the extra mile...
I Love where I live but it took me time...
I Trust News..always.. The Word NEWS to me is facts...whether it's gossip or lies it's news so must be real and I still love our Government especially the MP's...
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You cannot question a genuine Photo call can u?
News interest to me is about what I am interested in rather than all the worlds problems which will not change now as everything is broadcasted....I get shocked when My Husband want to talk over the next likely war and such like. France's History is filled with conflicts and most have stemmed from Religion and greed of course goes hand in hand.....
My good news is that I have had contact with a new French relative and she only lives 40 minutes form here...She has given me her a copy of part of her family Tree and ok some dates are not the same as from my Tree but that is a very normal thing to happen as documents are also sometimes way out...like husbands birth is 30.7.1945 he won't like being 5 years older as on her Tree... (https://i.ibb.co/CmX1BWk/abc-joke-photo-P.jpg)
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whoops sorry about the shoe in a rather awkward area...let me try again...
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I can see this is not going to well now...that was in the 70's when he had a great head of hair...lol
'Psychic' conman jailed for swindling 1.3m Americans (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68831124)QuoteOver two decades Patrice Runner, 57, amassed a fortune by promising wealth and happiness to his targets if they sent him money through the mail.
The scheme pulled in more than $175m (C$242m; £141m) from 1.3 million American victims.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 17, 2024, 01:05 PM'Psychic' conman jailed for swindling 1.3m Americans (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68831124)
So psychics taking money to make 'forecasts' is only a crime when there's enough money involved to arouse the ire of government authorities, huh? I bet the real issue was he didn't pay his fair share of taxes to the government on this income. :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 17, 2024, 05:20 PMSo psychics taking money to make 'forecasts' is only a crime when there's enough money involved to arouse the ire of government authorities, huh? I bet the real issue was he didn't pay his fair share of taxes to the government on this income. :laughing:
I was thinking the same thing.
Uncle Sam probably didn't get his cut of that profitable pie.
Brazilian woman arrested after taking corpse to sign bank loan: 'She knew he was dead' (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/17/brazil-woman-corpse-bank-fraud)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 18, 2024, 03:38 PMBrazilian woman arrested after taking corpse to sign bank loan: 'She knew he was dead' (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/17/brazil-woman-corpse-bank-fraud)
Weekend at Bernie's III
^ Yeah, a friend sent me that story. What was going through that woman's head - or rather, failing to go through that woman's head?!
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Apr 18, 2024, 04:21 PM^ Yeah, a friend sent me that story. What was going through that woman's head - or rather, failing to go through that woman's head?!
That's another level of crazy.
And I'd like to know how she was going to get the corpse to sign the loan?
Wouldn't it have stunk? And how long does it take rigor mortis to set in?
Tbf to the deceased he looks no worse than Prince Phillip in the last couple of years of his life when he was being wheeled out by the Royals.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2024, 05:14 PMWouldn't it have stunk? And how long does it take rigor mortis to set in?
The article said he had only been dead for like two hours, so I don't think he'd have started smelling too bad yet.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2024, 05:14 PMTbf to the deceased he looks no worse than Prince Phillip in the last couple of years of his life when he was being wheeled out by the Royals.
^ :laughing: Ouch! You saying Prince Phillip was already dead and they didn't tell us ?!
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This is HUGE news in Ireland. Not so much for the rest of the world. Over FORTY YEARS to get fucking justice! May those poor kids rest in peace at last. Shame on you, Irish state!
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Verdict of unlawful killing returned by Stardust inquiry (https://www.rte.ie/news/stardust/2024/0418/1444186-stardust-inquests/?at_medium=email&at_emailtype=retention&at_campaign=website&at_creation=News%20Newsletter%20&at_link=Automated%20Newsletter&at_recipient_list=2&at_send_date=20240418)
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