desantis really is your great grandfather's fascist

[Toy Revolver]

Does anyone not believe that DeSantis is going to run on a campaign slogan of MASA - Make America Straight Again?     

well if he wins we can appropriate maga to make america gay again and we can get all the maga gear on the cheap second hand

[Rubber Soul]

Actually they both tie in a bit. Those that are anti-LGTBQ and minorities in general also seem obvlivious that the same politicans who would like to see gays stones in the courtyard would also like to take their Social Security away from them. In other words, the politicians exploit their hatreds even though they only really want what little they have and the electorate is too dense to figure that out.

[Dr_Rez]

Dont blame republicans specifically though, blame religion.  If it wasnt for the billions of people across the world believing in things that have no evidence backing them up the republican party probably wouldnt even exist as we know it here in the USA.

[SGR]

Dont blame republicans specifically though, blame religion.  If it wasnt for the billions of people across the world believing in things that have no evidence backing them up the republican party probably wouldnt even exist as we know it here in the USA.

Just because I believe in Bigfoot doesn't mean I'm responsible for the Republican Party, ya dig?

As for DeSantis, is this guy actually gonna run or what? Between him and the Mr. Waffles Rodgers trade, it would appear everything is at a standstill.

[Psy-Fi]

Dont blame republicans specifically though, blame religion.  If it wasnt for the billions of people across the world believing in things that have no evidence backing them up the republican party probably wouldnt even exist as we know it here in the USA.

Just because I believe in Bigfoot doesn't mean I'm responsible for the Republican Party, ya dig?

As for DeSantis, is this guy actually gonna run or what? Between him and the Mr. Waffles Rodgers trade, it would appear everything is at a standstill.

It seems to me like DeSantis is laying the groundwork for a 2024 run but It also seems like he's waiting to see what happens with Trump before he announces his candidacy.

[Toy Revolver]

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has targeted the tiny school on the shores of Sarasota Bay as a staging ground for his war on "woke." The governor and his allies say New College, a progressive school with a prominent LGBTQ+ community, is indoctrinating students with leftist ideology and should be revamped into a more conservative institution.

Students and faculty say America should take note because the transformation at New College could become a blueprint with national implications as DeSantis gears up for a likely presidential bid. 

source AP

[Lexi Darling]

Terrifying. And of course he has no problem with indoctrinating kids with rightist ideology.

When I was growing up I always felt the idea was "the Dem and Rep parties disagree with how this country should be run but ultimately respect each other's humanity on a baseline level", and now it's definitely just full on "Reps think liberals are all evil child groomers and they and everything they stand for must be eliminated".

Maybe it was always that way and I was young and naive. But it's never felt this grim to me before.

[Psy-Fi]

Terrifying. And of course he has no problem with indoctrinating kids with rightist ideology.

When I was growing up I always felt the idea was "the Dem and Rep parties disagree with how this country should be run but ultimately respect each other's humanity on a baseline level", and now it's definitely just full on "Reps think liberals are all evil child groomers and they and everything they stand for must be eliminated".

Maybe it was always that way and I was young and naive. But it's never felt this grim to me before.

The Democrats and Republicans definitely seem to be more hostile towards each other in general than they used to be. I think that a significant bit of that might have to do with the way the presentation of news has changed in America as well as the rise of the internet and social media over the past 20 years or so.

[Toy Revolver]

Terrifying. And of course he has no problem with indoctrinating kids with rightist ideology.

When I was growing up I always felt the idea was "the Dem and Rep parties disagree with how this country should be run but ultimately respect each other's humanity on a baseline level", and now it's definitely just full on "Reps think liberals are all evil child groomers and they and everything they stand for must be eliminated".

Maybe it was always that way and I was young and naive. But it's never felt this grim to me before.

The Democrats and Republicans definitely seem to be more hostile towards each other in general than they used to be. I think that a significant bit of that might have to do with the way the presentation of news has changed in America as well as the rise of the internet and social media over the past 20 years or so.

it's at least partly because electing a black president shook a lot of racist america and they're lashing out like a drowning swimmer or a cornered rat

it should be noted that they are losing something- their culture is being changed - that just don't understand that it's a change for the better - they're scared and without sympathizing with their politics of hatred i also understand that change really is scary

this country needs a gigantic xanax pill

i hope this post is not misinterpreted

[Marie Monday]

No, I think you're spot on

[Lexi Darling]

I don't think they're losing anything. LGBT and minorities being allowed to live their lives happily has zero effect on anyone else or their culture. In trans people's case, the only difference is there's more of us transitioning now because all the progress we made in the Obama era made us think it was safe. I guess that was just a bit too much for the poor little conservatives to handle, us silly uppity trans people should know our place, am I right?

Edit: I don't mean to direct this at Toy Revolver of course, I'm just venting in general.

[Marie Monday]

Oh I agree; basic LBGT rights won't affect them at all. Then there's the cultural shift that comes with it, and even then they're not losing anything tanglible or significant, but I think they are losing some cultural and social things like getting away with making homophobic jokes or certain gender-based social privileges (like being looked up to in certain situations just because you're a man). And that's very trivial and petty, but I think people like that perceive it as losing something significant. Or rather, they mistake it for losing something significant because they don't understand the difference and they don't see that they are in fact gaining something. They inflate a harmless change that they don't understand into a kind of imaginary phantom. It's ugly and frustrating.

[Lexi Darling]

Oh I agree; basic LBGT rights won't affect them at all. Then there's the cultural shift that comes with it, and even then they're not losing anything tanglible or significant, but I think they are losing some cultural and social things like getting away with making homophobic jokes or certain gender-based social privileges (like being looked up to in certain situations just because you're a man). And that's very trivial and petty, but I think people like that perceive it as losing something significant. Or rather, they mistake it for losing something significant because they don't understand the difference and they don't see that they are in fact gaining something. They inflate a harmless change that they don't understand into a kind of imaginary phantom. It's ugly and frustrating.

Yeah, for sure.

It's hard for me to relate to that mindset, the minute someone tells me a joke I told hurt them is the minute I apologize and stop telling those jokes. But even so, nobody is actually policing their jokes or their culture, they can still do literally everything they did before, it's just now there are more people calling them assholes for it. Whereas their politicians are the ones literally making laws that police everyone else, re. abortion, trans rights, etc.

So I understand their viewpoint, but it only makes them look like even more of whiny spoiled adult-children.

[Trollheart]

Well, I'm sure it's of no practical help at all, Mrs. Waffles, but we all love ya here. 

[Marie Monday]

^indeed

So I understand their viewpoint, but it only makes them look like even more of whiny spoiled adult-children.

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