Big Picture American Politics

[Nimbly9]

Amazing.

Jan. 6 rioter dubbed "QAnon Shaman" plans to run for U.S. Congress

[DJChameleon]

Amazing.

Jan. 6 rioter dubbed "QAnon Shaman" plans to run for U.S. Congress

yeah I saw that. Good luck to him pfft. He should still be behind bars as far as I'm concerned.

[Psy-Fi]

[Mindy]

[Nimbly9]

Colbert is a bit of a hypocrite (remember when his crew trespassed at the capitol lol), but that was kinda funny.

[Lisnaholic]

^ I'm glad you liked Mindy's Colbert clip, Nimbly. I think S Colbert is the funniest of the late-night standup commentators, and in this monologue he makes a worrying point about Big Picture American Politics: that the GOP are still backing a deeply anti-democratic guy, swallowing his dangerous ideas along with their KoolAid.

[Psy-Fi]

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[Nimbly9]

^ I'm glad you liked Mindy's Colbert clip, Nimbly. I think S Colbert is the funniest of the late-night standup commentators, and in this monologue he makes a worrying point about Big Picture American Politics: that the GOP are still backing a deeply anti-democratic guy, swallowing his dangerous ideas along with their KoolAid.

He's just another entitled clown like Bill Maher who looks down on anyone who isn't rich and neoliberal, which is probably why he loves Gavin Newsom and Justin "Blackface" Trudeau (the latter being an actual fascist). I'd love to see how fast Colbert can talk out of the other side of his mouth if Trump ever started freezing bank accounts of protesters he disagreed with in his 2nd term.  If he does something like that I'll be the first to put him up there on Mount Faschmore with Kim Jong Un and the previously mentioned Trudeau.

[Psy-Fi]

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[SGR]

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"Listen Jack, I'm leading in 8 of those 10 polls!"

[Lisnaholic]

He's just another entitled clown like Bill Maher who looks down on anyone who isn't rich and neoliberal, which is probably why he loves Gavin Newsom and Justin "Blackface" Trudeau (the latter being an actual fascist).

Well, the guy is a celebrity comedian,  so if you want to turn his job description into an insult, "entitled clown" is a pretty good way to go. To be honest, I don't ask much of my clowns apart from a bit of amusement. How about that other entitled clown who died recently, Matthew Perry ? Did he look down on anyone who isn't rich too - or perhaps you didn't care enough to investigate, in which case, you've reached my position on S Colbert.

I'd love to see how fast Colbert can talk out of the other side of his mouth if Trump ever started freezing bank accounts of protesters he disagreed with in his 2nd term.  If he does something like that I'll be the first to put him up there on Mount Faschmore with Kim Jong Un and the previously mentioned Trudeau.

Gotta say that it's kind of worrying to me that you should normalise outrageous, autocratic policies ( "started freezing bank accounts of protesters he disagreed with"), then turn them into wish fantasies or a joke of some kind. TBH I don't really understand what you're suggesting with "Mount Faschmore" though I liked that little play on words.

[Nimbly9]

I think you missed the stories about Trudeau and the truckers based on your second paragraph back when all that was going on, but that's fine.  The point is, we already know what modern day fascism looks like because it has already come to pass.  If Trump gets elected, we're just catching up with Canada lol.

Well, the guy is a celebrity comedian,  so if you want to turn his job description into an insult, "entitled clown" is a pretty good way to go. To be honest, I don't ask much of my clowns apart from a bit of amusement. How about that other entitled clown who died recently, Matthew Perry ? Did he look down on anyone who isn't rich too - or perhaps you didn't care enough to investigate, in which case, you've reached my position on S Colbert.

Well, Matthew Perry wasn't getting up on TV every night telling me I'm a bad person for not like Biden or Trudeau and then frantically pointing over at Trump as an excuse to never explore a world beyond the neoliberal status quo.  But that's all Colbert and the rest of his late night friends have been doing for the last 10+ years in some form or fashion.  They're the funhouse mirror flipside of Greg Gutfeld with better commercial breaks and Ivy League degrees.

[Psy-Fi]

If Trump gets elected, we're just catching up with Canada lol.

Canadian Parliament gives WWII Nazi standing ovation


No Canada!

[Lisnaholic]

^ I'm at work right now so I can't play that clip, but I notice the title "Canada Blunder", suggesting, iirc, that it was an unintentional error.

I think you missed the stories about Trudeau and the truckers based on your second paragraph back when all that was going on, but that's fine.  The point is, we already know what modern day fascism looks like because it has already come to pass.  If Trump gets elected, we're just catching up with Canada lol.

Yes, plenty of countries all over the world where you can see modern-day fascism at work.
Actually, Nimbly, I'm not sure that "we're just catching up with" fascism is something to lol about.

Perhaps you and Psy-Fi would like to open a thread about "Canada: fascist or not?" as you seem quite interested in the topic.

Well, Matthew Perry wasn't getting up on TV every night telling me I'm a bad person for not like Biden or Trudeau and then frantically pointing over at Trump as an excuse to never explore a world beyond the neoliberal status quo.  But that's all Colbert and the rest of his late night friends have been doing for the last 10+ years in some form or fashion.  They're the funhouse mirror flipside of Greg Gutfeld with better commercial breaks and Ivy League degrees.

There's a long and healthy tradition of people laughing at politicians, powerful and pompous people. Shakespeare used to do it. To me, having people like that around is a sign of a tolerant society in which people can express their views without fear, without being banned, without being imprisoned, without having their bank accounts frozen. What I don't hear from Colbert is any suggestion that we should use intimidation or outright violence against people we disagree with. That's a line that Trump has crossed.

If you have a remote control, Nimbly, you must know how to stop Colbert "getting up on tv every night and telling me" stuff you don't agree with. You say he is "frantically pointing over at Trump", but I say Trump invites derision because of his public utterances, which deserve to be deflated because they are often not true and sometimes carry alarming messages about citizen-on-citizen violence.
I think that a known fraudster, the sorest election-loser in US history, and a man convicted of sexual abuse, who gets up on stage and declares with a straight face, "I am your justice...I am your retribution" deserves all the ridicule he gets.

By all means tell me something about the "unexplored world beyond the neoliberal status quo" which you assume I'm ignorant of: perhaps I am.

[Lexi Darling]

Frankly I couldn't care less whether or not Trump fits the definition of fascism; that's just a label, and one that ceases to be useful if arguing over its definition distracts from the actual problems.

But one indisputable reality is that Trump has proposed nationwide all-ages bans on transgender healthcare and continued the hateful and dehumanizing rhetoric against us that his party has been using to relentlessly scapegoat and scaremonger for the past couple years. His Supreme Court appointments led directly to the catastrophic erosion of women's rights to bodily autonomy by way of ending Roe.

I do not care what Trudeau may have done that is supposedly worse, miss me with the whataboutism. Just because a politician in another country is also bad does not make Trump any less of a villain. Being so lenient on Trump and dismissive of all the harm he has caused and will cause makes you come off as both callous and irresponsible.