Big Picture American Politics

[SGR]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no debate.

How do you think the Dems/DNC will justify that? Something like: "Biden will not debate with Trump because that would be giving legitimacy to an insurrectionist and an existential threat to our democracy", or some other horseshit?

[Lisnaholic]

^ Yep, that's one possibility, SGR. Here's another possible DNC announcement: "For security reasons, President Biden is unable to join Trump for the Presidential Debate taking place in Cell Block C tonight."
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Fox and a few others still covers that story pretty regularly as far as I know, since it is still ongoing despite White House attempts to stonewall on a few things. If you are that curious about it, I'm sure Google could tell you.

LOL Thanks for the suggestion, Nimbly ! Do you think Google can also re-fund me the (too much) time I'm already spending in this thread?
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Yeah, I think Manchin has already had his 15 minutes of infamy. I don't think he's gonna make it to "Big Picture American Politics" again. Still, I suppose in his long retirement he can take solace like this, "Well, thanks to me and all the Republican senate members, we stopped Joe Biden from slowing down global warming. Scientists now say that it's happening even faster than previously predicted. WIN !"

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[Nimbly9]

It doesn't take an Orc Far Seer to divine that Manchin is a non-starter.  It'll be a three way orgy between Big T, Sleepy B and RFK.JR and everyone else will be a distant planetary body.

How do you think the Dems/DNC will justify that? Something like: "Biden will not debate with Trump because that would be giving legitimacy to an insurrectionist and an existential threat to our democracy", or some other horseshit?

They'll come up with something.  No matter what they say though, it is going to come off as really pathetic and Biden's numbers will fall even more.

LOL Thanks for the suggestion, Nimbly ! Do you think Google can also re-fund me the (too much) time I'm already spending in this thread?

Lol you'll have better luck with ChatGPT than Google for that one. 

[Jwb]

How do you think the Dems/DNC will justify that? Something like: "Biden will not debate with Trump because that would be giving legitimacy to an insurrectionist and an existential threat to our democracy", or some other horseshit?

if neither side wants a debate it will be easy to justify. But if one side calls the other side out then yeah they would have to either debate or look weak.  I think Trump would love another chance to try to bully Biden,  but I also would have thought he would have wanted a chance to tear through his GOP rivals like Pence and DeSantis during the Republican debates.  But apparently they are avoiding that sort of outing. Might be seen as a liability,  given Trump's unpredictable nature and immense ability to incriminate himself.

Obviously I don't think Biden's people are exactly eager to trot him out for a debate either. So yeah.  If neither side pushes the issue then maybe they just won't have one or won't come to an agreement over one.  But I do think if either side decides to challenge the other,  then they will probably have to accept.

[Psy-Fi]

Cornel West's plan to grow his 'embryonic' campaign: 'Be like jazz and improvise'

[Shhon]

I won't be watching it live but will watch it tomorrow. Probably watch for the first 25 minutes or so but then my favorite daily crypto show starts at 930pm every day so I'll switch to that and watch the rest of the debate tomorrow or later tonight

[SGR]

I won't be watching it live but will watch it tomorrow. Probably watch for the first 25 minutes or so but then my favorite daily crypto show starts at 930pm every day so I'll switch to that and watch the rest of the debate tomorrow or later tonight

Watching these two debate about who deserves to be president more is like watching the Jets and the Panthers debate about who deserves to be in the Super Bowl more. 

[Nimbly9]

I'm tuning in casually while doing some work, but Newsom is getting wrecked pretty hard. He makes DeSantis look downright charming in comparison.

[Psy-Fi]

Watching these two debate about who deserves to be president more is like watching the Jets and the Panthers debate about who deserves to be in the Super Bowl more. 

That's the gist of it.

[Psy-Fi]

Sen. John Fetterman trolls Bob Menendez with social media video recorded by George Santos

[degrassi.knoll]

Watching these two debate about who deserves to be president more is like watching the Jets and the Panthers debate about who deserves to be in the Super Bowl more. 

Lol but which one is which?

Newsom has the entitlement of the preseason Jets. But then again DeSantis has the arrogance of a 40 year old QB still thinking he's got a shot of reclaiming glory 15 weeks in. 

Regardless I can't shake the feeling that DeSantis is just a Fred Armisen character.

[Psy-Fi]

Texas claims US State Department funds tech that censors conservative news

[Psy-Fi]

Those $5 million dollar per person reparations checks turn into a lump of coal just in time for Christmas.

Ho, ho, ho!

[Shhon]

[Nimbly9]

Feels like a lose-lose situation no matter what happens to Trump at this point.  Even if he goes to the big house, the Republican nominee (Haley, DeSantis, etc.) is going to take Biden to the cleaners in November.  And probably by bigger margins than what Trump would have done, seeing as RFK Jr. is going to end up pulling a chunk from Biden too, not just the Republican choice in all the states..

Biden's best hope was being able to run against Trump, so if he actually does get taken out of the picture then idk what they'll be able to campaign on.