Pro-Palestinian does not equal anti-Semitism; your thoughts?

[Trollheart]

God damn it, it's happening! I'm beginning to think "let Israel be declared a terror state." This sort of thing is fucking inexcusable. Period, as you people say.

Israeli strike on UN-run school leaves 14 children dead

I'm so fucking angry right now. These cunts will justify anything by saying "HAMAS militants were there."       

[Trollheart]

Now we have this guy. I mean, I get it: his daughter was one of those kidnapped by HAMAS, but surely even he can understand that HAMAS does not equal Palestine? He's ashamed to be Irish? He should be ashamed to be Israeli, if anything. Christ. This will only further fuel anti-Palestinian sentiment in this country, and won't help anyone.


Tom Hand ashamed to be Irish      

[jimmy jazz]

Your link isn't working for me, Trolls.

[Trollheart]

Sorry JJ - should work now.

[Psy-Fi]

Capital Pride Parade and Surround the White House for Gaza protest collide Saturday

Washington, D.C., will play host to both the Capital Pride Parade and the Surround the White House for Gaza protest on Saturday.

Thousands will descend on the nation's capital, and while the two events do not appear to directly conflict, both gatherings will take place less than a week after pro-Palestinian activists disrupted multiple LGBT events.

In Philadelphia, activists halted the city's pride parade, and in New York City, protesters rallied against an LGBT group's gala.

The Capital Pride Parade will start at 3 p.m. in the area around 14th and T Street and welcomes allies and LGBT community members to a tradition that "honors our history and acknowledges the evolution of the LGBTQ+ neighborhoods in Washington, DC, while respecting the origins and importance of taking to the streets in our fight for equality."

Approximately three hours before that, at 12 p.m., thousands are anticipated to mobilize outside the White House and demand a ceasefire in Israel's war against Hamas. Outside the White House, extra fencing has been installed.

"A month ago, Biden said that the invasion of Rafah was a red line. But now, the invasion of Rafah has continued for weeks, has expanded to the entire Gaza Strip, Biden's red line is nowhere to be seen," according to the ANSWER Coalition, the group behind Saturday's rally. "Instead of following through and stopping military aid to Israel, Biden has authorized billions more in weapons shipments to be used to kill and massacre Palestinians."

[Shhon]

wow that new John Oliver video a few days ago is powerful! about the west bank....

[Lucem Ferre]

For the record, Arabs are semitic. The Arabs of Palestine are directly related to the semites while the white European Jews of Israel are not. So in a way, Israel are the real anti-semites.

[Trollheart]

Maybe so, but going back as far as maybe the eleventh century it's been the Jews who have been persecuted (mostly out of jealousy, it would seem, of their talent for making money) and so the phrase refers to them. Hatred against Arabs, despite the misnomer, would probably be seen as Anti-Islam.

The Big W has yer back:

Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who incorrectly assert (in an etymological fallacy) that it refers to racist hatred directed at "Semitic people" in spite of the fact that this grouping is an obsolete historical race concept. Likewise, such usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus was first used in print in Germany in 1879[17] as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'),[18][19][20][21][22] and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

[Lucem Ferre]

If it's debunked race theory then I'm just going to call it Jewphobia.

[Trollheart]

As getting Israel banned from the Eurovision is clearly a non-starter, let them compete. I hope to see many Palestinian flags waved in protest when their representatives perform. Let chaos reign, and let every nation that considers itself humanitarian in any way show their displeasure by refusing to vote for their song. Nil points! It would be the ultimate humiliation for Israel: they couldn't say they were picked on by not being allowed to participate, but they would get the message loud and clear. Fuck them the bunch of genocidal warmongerers and child-killers.

[Jwb]

For the record, Arabs are semitic. The Arabs of Palestine are directly related to the semites while the white European Jews of Israel are not. So in a way, Israel are the real anti-semites.

That's not actually true.  Most Ashkenazi Jews still have significant DNA from the Levant/ Middle East.  And a significant portion of Jews in Israel are Sephardic or Mizrahi,  which fled from middle eastern countries to Israel after the creation of Israel made their presence much less welcome than it had previously been.

[Trollheart]

And you should know. Didn't you once boast you had an army of Jews?

[Jwb]

Probably, that's a Patrice O'neal quote in reference to his own legal team.

In my case if I said that it was just wishful thinking,  unfortunately.

[Trollheart]

This is the fucking worst yet! This time they're not saying "ooh sorry we hit a hospital", they're actually TARGETING ONE! In advance! This is what we've come to now is it? The words human shield, if applicable, mean nothing? These scum need to die and Netan-fucking-yahoo needs to have his place in Hell booked as soon as possible. Absolutely reprehensible, and the USA will not even stand silent this time, but cheer him on. Fuck him and all his cabinet who support this into the shittiest, smallest, smelliest hole in the Ninth Circle.

News Alert: Israel targets Hamas leader Mohammad Sinwar in hospital strike in Gaza


Israel has targeted Hamas leader Mohammad Sinwar in a strike on a hospital in southern Gaza on Tuesday evening, according to a senior Israeli official and two sources familiar with the matter.

He became the militant group's de facto leader after the Israeli military killed his brother, Yahya Sinwar, last October.

[Weekender]

Right. It's like there is no nuance: you either support these people or don't, and your views have to reflect that.

I will raise you a nuance and say people people can be dishonest with themselves even when acting in good faith.