Pro-Palestinian does not equal anti-Semitism; your thoughts?

[Lexi of the Dawn]

But the US government is totally all about "combating antisemitism", right?

[Lexi of the Dawn]

The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian Movement

[Mindy]

OxfordUnion
May 20, 2025

YouTuber and political commentator Hasan Piker addresses the Oxford Union about antisemitism, the actions of Israel and America's support of the state of Israel.

Mr Piker is a YouTuber, online streamer and political commentator who first gained notoreity on the streaming platform Twitch. Born in New Jersey, USA to Turkish parents, Piker grew up in Istanbul, Turkey before returning to the United States for university.

[Trollheart]

I'm not sure how everyone/anyone feels about the two killings today of the Israeli embassy staff, but personally I'd just like to say it's abhorrent. Not only is it never right to kill people for an ideal, particularly people who are on the periphery of all but a terrorist state, but still can't be said to actually have blood on their hands, but it's also pointless. As with most killings or bombings of this sort, all you do is make a martyr of the dead person(s) and engender a tougher backlash against the entity which sponsored the killing, or is seen to have done.

In other words, in the 1970s anyone killing a British MP or soldier or official and shouting "Free Northern Ireland" would only make the British government's stance tougher on Irish matters. Whoever did this, whether he had sanction or not, is a fucking idiot. He's ended two young lives, given the Israeli state a perfect chance to show why all Palestinians are killers, and will just make things even more unbearable for the people he purports to support.

[Buck_Mulligan]

I'm not sure how everyone/anyone feels about the two killings today of the Israeli embassy staff, but personally I'd just like to say it's abhorrent. Not only is it never right to kill people for an ideal, particularly people who are on the periphery of all but a terrorist state, but still can't be said to actually have blood on their hands, but it's also pointless. As with most killings or bombings of this sort, all you do is make a martyr of the dead person(s) and engender a tougher backlash against the entity which sponsored the killing, or is seen to have done.

In other words, in the 1970s anyone killing a British MP or soldier or official and shouting "Free Northern Ireland" would only make the British government's stance tougher on Irish matters. Whoever did this, whether he had sanction or not, is a fucking idiot. He's ended two young lives, given the Israeli state a perfect chance to show why all Palestinians are killers, and will just make things even more unbearable for the people he purports to support.

The suspect's name is Elias Rodriguez, so unlikely to be Palestinian.

[Trollheart]

Doesn't matter if they're Icelandic: the phrase "Free Palestine" is all Israel needs.

[Lucem Ferre]

Israel is going to start bringing babies back to life just to bomb them again.

Then they're going to pee in their cornflakes.

[Jwb]

I'm not sure how everyone/anyone feels about the two killings today of the Israeli embassy staff, but personally I'd just like to say it's abhorrent. Not only is it never right to kill people for an ideal, particularly people who are on the periphery of all but a terrorist state, but still can't be said to actually have blood on their hands, but it's also pointless. As with most killings or bombings of this sort, all you do is make a martyr of the dead person(s) and engender a tougher backlash against the entity which sponsored the killing, or is seen to have done.

In other words, in the 1970s anyone killing a British MP or soldier or official and shouting "Free Northern Ireland" would only make the British government's stance tougher on Irish matters. Whoever did this, whether he had sanction or not, is a fucking idiot. He's ended two young lives, given the Israeli state a perfect chance to show why all Palestinians are killers, and will just make things even more unbearable for the people he purports to support.

Given that the topic of Israel is the one key issue where the Trump regime have already staked out a clear policy of testing the limits of how they can repress free speech, I can hardly think of any move by an individual that has more potential to backfire dramatically on the very cause he supposedly represents. 

[DJChameleon]

I'm not sure how everyone/anyone feels about the two killings today of the Israeli embassy staff, but personally I'd just like to say it's abhorrent. Not only is it never right to kill people for an ideal, particularly people who are on the periphery of all but a terrorist state, but still can't be said to actually have blood on their hands, but it's also pointless. As with most killings or bombings of this sort, all you do is make a martyr of the dead person(s) and engender a tougher backlash against the entity which sponsored the killing, or is seen to have done.

In other words, in the 1970s anyone killing a British MP or soldier or official and shouting "Free Northern Ireland" would only make the British government's stance tougher on Irish matters. Whoever did this, whether he had sanction or not, is a fucking idiot. He's ended two young lives, given the Israeli state a perfect chance to show why all Palestinians are killers, and will just make things even more unbearable for the people he purports to support.

I hate to buy into the false flag conspiracy theories but this event seems so staged. He chanted "Free Palestinine" in the same way that protestors do and just conveniently dropped a red keffiyeh on the ground that someone calmly picked up. This just feels like a backdoor way to continue to stifle pro Palestinian protests and target protesters by further claiming they are dangerous and pro Hamas.

They are also digging into his past to highlight that he was part of PSL(Party for Socialism and Liberation)back in 2017 but he left them. Of course they will target current PSL members.

[Jwb]

False flag? So you're accusing the Trump admin of hiring a Mexican?

[DJChameleon]

False flag? So you're accusing the Trump admin of hiring a Mexican?

Not Trump administration AIPAC paid him off and so what he's a Mexican. He's from Chicago and the means justify the ends.

[Lucem Ferre]

Trump isn't that smart.

This is something Israel would do.

But IDK. I do think the US has a lot of dumb people that do stuff like this. Typically it's right wing psychotic bigots but every once in a while it would come from somebody else.

[jimmy jazz]

There's nothing unbelievable or surprising about someone being so invested in the Palestine thing that they'd kill two people. Especially in the USA where you've got such easy access to guns.

He would obviously shout Free Palestine BTW. We've seen people do that when they set themselves on fire in protest. Pretty much every time there's an Islamic terrorist attack the perpetrater is shouting Allahu Ahkbar.

This just feels like a backdoor way to continue to stifle pro Palestinian protests and target protesters by further claiming they are dangerous and pro Hamas.

@DJChameleon what is your personal opinion of Hamas?

[Psy-Fi]

Does Mr. Rodriguez have fan club and a GoFundMe yet?

[DJChameleon]

@DJChameleon what is your personal opinion of Hamas?

I don't support their actions but I do understand why their actions have happened as resistance to decades of occupation in that region.