2024 US Presidential Election

[SGR]

 https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1854271157135941698

[Lisnaholic]

Here's another of my analogies that I know you like so much. 

You might go into a movie theater and feel a bit thirsty. You're really in the mood for an iced tea. You go to the concession stand and ask about an iced tea, only to find that there's no iced tea on offer. But yet they still have a choice for you to make; you can either have the 'red slushy' or the 'blue slushy'. Don't like it? Want a different drink? Too bad, you need to make a choice in the movie theater's pre-approved 'democracy of drinks', and choose which slushy you want - or else go thirsty while you watch the movie.

^ Your best analogy yet, imo ! It actually clarifies the valid point you were making about the correlation between voting and democracy:

Even if that comes to pass, and the slow slide to greater and greater levels of authoritarianism takes place, voting will surely be there still - just as Nazis and Communists held 'elections' - but it's not the vote - or the ability to vote that gives you democracy, it's the ability for your vote to reflect your beliefs and convictions, and collectively with the votes of others, to have the capability to enact some kind of meaningful change. Your choices on offer when voting should, at their core, be driven primarily by the people - because when they're driven primarily by the state, that's not a democracy, even though you still technically have a vote.

( Wow ! Carlin has an even lower opinion of America than Trump does ! )

[Trollheart]

https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1854271157135941698

This man knows where it's at. A Democrat who's not afraid to stand up and say "We fucked it up and we deserve what we got". Almost makes me want to follow him on Twitter (fuck you Musk and your X - what do you think this is: an adult porn site?) but I hate Musk so very much (Trump is number 2 otherwise he'd be number 1 but there's not much in it) that I wouldn't come within a parsec of his horrible right-wing disinformation-spreading xenophobic (hey! Maybe that's what the X is for!) programme. Fuck him.

[SGR]

^ Your best analogy yet, imo ! It actually clarifies the valid point you were making about the correlation between voting and democracy:

Phew, thanks Lisna!   

Based on the other responses I had to it, I was beginning to think about quitting analogies completely. 

[DJChameleon]

He explains more about why they are all getting dropped.

[SGR]

Where's @Jwb? We can't have a major US political event pass without hearing from him.

[Paul Smeenus]

We're absolutely utterly fucked for at least the next four years, maybe permanently.

The horror...

[SGR]

We're absolutely utterly fucked for at least the next four tears, maybe permanently.

The horror...

How do you think America got here Paul? Why do you think Trump was successful in winning this election and the popular vote despite all of his character flaws, legal trouble, and moral failures being obvious and apparent? Is the credit due more to him, or his opponents?

[Paul Smeenus]

Doesn't bean we're not screwed

[SGR]

Doesn't bean we're not screwed

Huh?

[Paul Smeenus]

I'm saying that those of us that were on the losing side of this election feel like we're utterly fucking for at least the next four years and maybe permanently

[Lucem Ferre]

The weird thing about this election is that neither side gained any votes. They both lost votes, but the democrats lost them at a much higher rate.

If they would have primaried Bernie, I wonder if he'd have won?

The liberals already showed that they'll support who ever the Democrats put forth so there is nothing to lose.

I think another huge disappointment is how many libs went mask off blaming minorities and telling both hispanic and Arab people they hope they get deported. To DJ's point, they did try to blame black men, despite the fact they were the 2nd most supportive demographic next to black women. I saw many posts on X telling black men they don't want to see anymore hashtags if police kill them. Absolutely disgusting.

Another interesting thing I reasd is that even though Republicans swept the election all across the board, people still voted more progressively when it came to new bills.

[SGR]

If they would have primaried Bernie, I wonder if he'd have won?

I think another huge disappointment is how many libs went mask off blaming minorities and telling both hispanic and Arab people they hope they get deported. To DJ's point, they did try to blame black men, despite the fact they were the 2nd most supportive demographic next to black women. I saw many posts on X telling black men they don't want to see anymore hashtags if police kill them. Absolutely disgusting.

Do you mean if he'd have run in/won the primary?

I'm sure you know this, and it probably goes without saying, but don't judge the majority of liberals by what the vocal and algorithmically amplified minority of dumbfucks on X say. Same goes for conservatives.

[Lucem Ferre]

Don't judge it based on most social media as a whole, however you also don't get real opinions IRL because these people would never say this insane shit in person.

[SGR]

Don't judge it based on most social media as a whole, however you also don't get real opinions IRL because these people would never say this insane shit in person.

That's probably true, but people in real life aren't rewarded and given mass attention by saying the most outrageous and egregious shit possible.