Quote from: DJChameleon on Jan 18, 2024, 04:40 PMNo that's a bad idea. He hit up 300 spots in Iowa and Trump voters reduced him to a dirty Muslim. Trumps audience doesn't care about someone being articulate. He went hard in Iowa to walk away with 19%. He would do Trump more harm than good if he went out speaking for Trump.

I wasn't thinking about him speaking for the purpose of persuading Trump voters. Trump voters don't need to be persuaded, they're voting Trump no matter what. I was more thinking about him stumping for Trump in the general - and Vivek's ability to articulate Trump's message in a way that's more persausive (than Trump) for undecided or swing voters.


Quote from: SGR on Jan 18, 2024, 06:44 PMI wasn't thinking about him speaking for the purpose of persuading Trump voters. Trump voters don't need to be persuaded, they're voting Trump no matter what. I was more thinking about him stumping for Trump in the general - and Vivek's ability to articulate Trump's message in a way that's more persausive (than Trump) for undecided or swing voters.

Undecided and swing voters are undecided because they don't want to vote for Trump so Vivek caping for Trump still won't help in that aspect.

I was this cool the whole time.

RFK Jr. is gonna end up picking up most of the independents if he gets on the ballot in all the swing states. Just my prediction.


Quote from: DJChameleon on Jan 18, 2024, 08:37 PMUndecided and swing voters are undecided because they don't want to vote for Trump so Vivek caping for Trump still won't help in that aspect.

To be fair, they're undecided because they don't really want to vote for Trump and they don't really want to vote for Biden. Obama stumping for Biden will help (assuming said undecided voters liked Obama), but I think if Vivek is given a big enough stage/platform (e.g. RNC convention), he'd help Trump. I'd be willing to wager a large number of undecided voters haven't even heard of Vivek, or if they have, they haven't really heard him speak.


Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jan 18, 2024, 09:56 PMRFK Jr. is gonna end up picking up most of the independents if he gets on the ballot in all the swing states. Just my prediction.

It raises an interesting question - how many undecided voters at this point in the race typically go with one of the two main parties? I'm sure there are some that aren't willing to vote third party just because they'd feel that it is a wasted vote (and in some ways, it is). Others might stick to their convictions of fuck both Trump and Biden, I don't care if I'm voting for a spoiler, I'm not giving my vote to either of these dudes, and will vote for RFK (somewhat similar to what happened in the 1912 election with Wilson/Taft/Roosevelt, except Roosevelt played spoiler so well he got more votes than the Republican Taft).



Lmao he's so real for this

QuoteMidway through the Q.-&-A. section of Nikki Haley's town hall, earlier this month, at the Veterans of Foreign Wars post in Merrimack, New Hampshire, a man named Ted Johnson stood up to announce that America was heading for civil war. "So," he asked Haley, "how can I get back to that day, in the nineteen-eighties, when I was happy, running in the street, riding my bike?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/nikki-haleys-consensus-appeal

Practitioner of Soviet Foucauldian Catholicism

I can't see Nikki Haley catching on with enough Republican voters to stay in the race much longer.


Down goes DeSantis

DeSantis Drops Out

I was this cool the whole time.



Do we wanna start speculating who Trumps VP pick is gonna be?

Haley should be dropping out after New Hampshire if not before. I feel like she might try to hold out until then but it is futile.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 12, 2024, 05:38 PM

"She's Arrogant, Conceited & Elitest" - Why Nikki Haley Thinks She's Better Than You

Well the fellas will now have the entertainment of seeing her getting absolutely pumelled by you know who. She'd be a better fit in the other party it seems though, as with Blinken, I doubt she has the charisma to win a general election. The Hillary comparison seems kinda apropriate.

Practitioner of Soviet Foucauldian Catholicism

Quote from: jadis on Jan 23, 2024, 11:33 AMWell the fellas will now have the entertainment of seeing her getting absolutely pumelled by you know who. She'd be a better fit in the other party it seems though, as with Blinken, I doubt she has the charisma to win a general election. The Hillary comparison seems kinda apropriate.

She's definitely a neocon. I don't think there'd be much difference between her and Biden in terms of foreign policy, at least.


Quote from: DJChameleon on Jan 23, 2024, 09:09 AMDo we wanna start speculating who Trumps VP pick is gonna be?

Haley should be dropping out after New Hampshire if not before. I feel like she might try to hold out until then but it is futile.

Some people have speculated Tucker Carlson, but I don't buy that.

I'd say the most likely at this point are Kristi Noem or Elise Stefanik. I could see picking one over the other for different reasons. As shallow as it is, Noem is more physically attractive and that's a factor in how people vote. But Trump seems to have more of a personal relationship with Stefanik, so he might trust her more. I think his VP pick is definitely going to be a woman.

Wildcard pick: Tulsi Gabbard.