Quote from: Jwb on Jul 15, 2024, 03:11 AMThe interesting thing to actually consider is what the fall out could have been if the shooter killed Trump. I don't think it's hyperbolic at all to think that could have sparked a wave of retaliatory episodes of political violence that bring you closer and closer to open civil conflict. The bullet grazed Trump's ear. We were literally inches away from potentially entering a drastically different world from the one we're in right now.

I didn't realize how close it was, or rather, the perspective I had wasn't solidified until I saw these images. I found them on Twitter, so I don't claim they're 100% accurate, but given that a bullet did hit Trump's ear, I find them at least credible.



Trump supposedly turned his head 0.3 seconds before impact. And supposedly it gets even crazier. There was a 7mph crosswind at Trump's rally — enough to push a 5.56 round two inches to the left of its target, at 150 yards. Supposedly without this crosswind, that bullet would've gone straight through his skull.





If you were able to run 100 simulations of this shot, based on this, I'd bet Trump doesn't survive the shot more than 10 times (if that), if all this is accurate.



Trump picks J.D. Vance to be his VP

I'm not sure what this guy adds to the GOP ticket, if anything. Tulsi would've been better.




Quote from: SGR on Jul 15, 2024, 09:19 PMTrump picks J.D. Vance to be his VP

I'm not sure what this guy adds to the GOP ticket, if anything. Tulsi would've been better.

This guy doesn't add anything and subtracts actually. Any woman voter on the fence won't vote for that ticket. He's staunch against Abortion, IVF and weirdly wants to outlaw porn.

I was this cool the whole time.

#456 Jul 15, 2024, 11:51 PM Last Edit: Jul 16, 2024, 05:41 AM by SGR
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 15, 2024, 11:41 PMThis guy doesn't add anything and subtracts actually. Any woman voter on the fence won't vote for that ticket. He's staunch against Abortion, IVF and weirdly wants to outlaw porn.

Yeah, not to mention that J.D. Vance was, not long ago, a 'Never-Trump' Republican, said he 'might vote for Hillary', and, oddly enough, compared Trump to Hitler in his private texts with some Yale colleague. Democrats will use that.

Once again, I think Tulsi would've been better to soften Trump's image....hell, even Kristi Noem probably would've been better, despite her dastardly dog deed.


Nobody will get this, but in memory of His Batness, wherever he may be... Trump chose Judge Death??  :laughing:



Vance is an attack dog. That's his only purpose. Trump is still pissed at Pence over J6, he wasn't going to enlist someone who wasn't gonna follow orders.


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#459 Jul 16, 2024, 04:56 AM Last Edit: Jul 16, 2024, 05:12 AM by SGR
Quote from: degrassi.knoll on Jul 16, 2024, 03:11 AMVance is an attack dog. That's his only purpose. Trump is still pissed at Pence over J6, he wasn't going to enlist someone who wasn't gonna follow orders.

That's possible. Admittedly, I don't know much about the guy - I suppose I'm going to learn more about him now. But part of me expected, with all the criticism towards Trump after J6, that he'd choose a candidate who'd soften his image a bit and have broader appeal to independents. Instead, he appears to have chosen a candidate who is likely going to appeal primarily to staunch Republicans. Perhaps the play is to motivate those parts of the Republican base who may not be motivated to get out and vote based on Trump alone? Not sure. But definitely didn't see Trump choosing a VP that's more socially conservative than him this go-around (in 2016, it made sense, since he was an unproven political candidate and he wanted to solidify the Evangelical vote).

One benefit I suppose is that the guy is really young (the youngest VP since Ike chose Nixon as VP, I think) and a veteran. And he'll probably smoke Kamala in a debate. And apparently, Vance is very 'friendly' with Peter Thiel, in a financial sense. Thiel has funded him and helped him along the path. So perhaps the play here is bringing in more financial support from the 'Paypal Mafia' to Trump. Trump will now benefit from the support, vocal and financial, of Elon Musk, David Sacks, Bill Ackman, and Peter Thiel.


It's also funny how Vance was a never Trump guy and called people idiots if they ever voted for him. He also called Trump America's Hitler which is funny because of our own conversation earlier in this same thread.

I was this cool the whole time.



Kamala Harris congratulates JD Vance, hopes 'that the two can meet' at VP debate


@SGR why do you think JD would beat Harris in a debate?

I think she would mop the floor with him and run circles around him.

I was this cool the whole time.

#463 Jul 16, 2024, 02:58 PM Last Edit: Jul 16, 2024, 03:03 PM by SGR
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jul 16, 2024, 12:58 PMKamala Harris congratulates JD Vance, hopes 'that the two can meet' at VP debate


@SGR why do you think JD would beat Harris in a debate?

I think she would mop the floor with him and run circles around him.

Kamala is pretty good when she's the one asking the questions and the spotlight of inquiry isn't on her (like when she was a senator during the Kavanaugh hearings).

But when the spotlight is on her, she often gets nervous, laughs awkwardly at things she shouldn't laugh about, and generally has poor optics (I think her team probably told her, after she became VP that she needs to 'laugh and smile' more, but she doesn't know exactly when doing so is appropriate). JD is untested in a field of debate on a stage this big, so the possibility exists that you're right, and that Kamala's team has improved her debate skills and stage presence. But I'd imagine JD will be a more direct critic of her and the Biden administration than Pence was - less polite, at least - and since Kamala has been VP now for four years and her and Biden have a record, there is much more to criticize. Not sure how Kamala will be able to handle that.


She's not that bitch. I wish she was, but she's not.

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