2024 US Presidential Election

[Psy-Fi]

[DJChameleon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but technically, I think it only matters if you're 35 years old by inauguration time, which she would be (similar to AOC, though in her case, she'd actually be 35 by the time the election happens). I don't think you need to be 35 to run, you just need to be 35 by the time you're sworn in as president.

Idk tbh I even looked it up real quick and it doesn't specifically say whether it is election date or time of inauguration.

I did notice something it does claim you have to have had significant time in a public role but Trump skirted that exception. When I think public role I think of like being in a public office position prior but because of Trump he set a new precedent. He didn't have a public role.

[SGR]

Idk tbh I even looked it up real quick and it doesn't specifically say whether it is election date or time of inauguration.

I did notice something it does claim you have to have had significant time in a public role but Trump skirted that exception. When I think public role I think of like being in a public office position prior but because of Trump he set a new precedent. He didn't have a public role.

I'm not certain either. It's very confusing because the language used in couching the requirements is often similar to 'to run for president' or 'a presidential candidate must be...', which would imply those are the requirements to even enter the race, rather than 'to be sworn in as president'. So I'm not 100% confident either.

I've never heard the 'significant time in a public role' requirement before. As far as I know, constitutionally, the requirements are:

• Natural born US citizen
• At least 14 years spent as a resident of the US
• At least 35 years old

[DJChameleon]

I'm not certain either. It's very confusing because the language used in couching the requirements is often similar to 'to run for president' or 'a presidential candidate must be...', which would imply those are the requirements to even enter the race, rather than 'to be sworn in as president'. So I'm not 100% confident either.

I've never heard the 'significant time in a public role' requirement before. As far as I know, constitutionally, the requirements are:

• Natural born US citizen
• At least 14 years spent as a resident of the US
• At least 35 years old

Like the age requirements for membership in the House of Representatives2 and the Senate,3 the age requirement for the presidency set forth at Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 ensures that persons holding the office of President will have the necessary maturity for the position as well as sufficient time in a public role for the electorate to be able to assess the merits of a presidential candidate.4 In his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, Justice Joseph Story stated: Considering the nature of the duties, the extent of the information, and the solid wisdom and experience required in the executive department, no one can reasonably doubt the propriety of some qualification of age.

this is the wordy language from the constitution.

Source: Sauce

see it talks about the time in public role

[SGR]

this is the wordy language from the constitution.

Source: Sauce

see it talks about the time in public role

That's interesting - but from the wording, it sounds like the 'age requirement [....] ensures the persons holding the office of President will have the necessary maturity for the position as well as sufficient time in a public role for the electorate to be able to assess the merits of a presidential candidate' is a descriptive reason for the age requirement rather than a requirement in and of itself.

There's also some ambiguity, as you hinted to, of what 'public role' really means. Does that mean employment in a publicly funded position (like government or military) or does it simply mean that it needs to be a role that is open and obvious for all to see (like Trump's ventures in media and TV)?

Regardless, contrary to the days of the Constitution, these days anyone running for president is going to be given 1 - 2 years of media coverage and scrutiny for all to see.

[Psy-Fi]

Federal judge rules protesters can't march through Republican National Convention security zone

[Paul Smeenus]

[SGR]

Biden support slips in deep blue New York: 'We're a battleground state now'

[SGR]

Anyone got any predictions for Trump's VP pick?

[SGR]

Here's a link if anyone wants to see Biden's 'big boy' press conference - he's already called Zelensky 'President Putin' before the conference so....not a great start.

[Paul Smeenus]

I'm not saying that Trump isn't going to win, what I'm saying is that we're utterly fucked if he does

[Psy-Fi]

Here's a link if anyone wants to see Biden's 'big boy' press conference - he's already called Zelensky 'President Putin' before the conference so....not a great start.

Which genius on his PR team decided that it would be a good idea to call it a "Big Boy" press conference?

Sounds like a term for a child who just successfully completed his potty training. 

[Lisnaholic]

Anyone got any predictions for Trump's VP pick?

My guess is that he'll choose a servile crook. Even Trump isn't bothering with his "all the best people" lie this time round: everyone knows that Trump prefers people who are prepared to follow his orders, even if it lands them in jail: -

[SGR]

My guess is that he'll choose a servile crook. Even Trump isn't bothering with his "all the best people" lie this time round: everyone knows that Trump prefers people who are prepared to follow his orders, even if it lands them in jail: -

A 'servile crook'? So basically, any Republican currently in the betting markets? 

Come on @Lisnaholic, where's your bravery? Give me a name! 

Your framing did remind me of this recent article from The Atlantic, which I genuinely found to be an interesting insight into the inner workings of Trump's campaign, even though it's a bit of a long read.

It reminded me of it because Trump's campaign directors seem to believe that, if they lose, there's a very real chance that the state will send them to jail. Now if that's not high-stakes, I don't know what is:

As Blair and I stood up to leave the conference room, he stopped me. The smirk was gone. He wanted to make something clear: He takes these decisions very seriously. "Because if we lose," he said, "I think there's a pretty good chance they're going to throw us in jail."
It was a startling moment. I'd heard campaign aides make offhand remarks before about expecting to end up incarcerated for helping Trump. But this was more direct, more paranoid. Blair was telling me that, in a second Biden administration, he expected deep-state flunkies to arrest him for the crime of opposing the president. And he wasn't alone. Brian Hughes, a campaign spokesperson known for his extensive government work and generally affable demeanor, nodded in agreement as Blair spoke. "I think we all feel that way," Hughes said.

[SGR]

Which genius on his PR team decided that it would be a good idea to call it a "Big Boy" press conference?

Sounds like a term for a child who just successfully completed his potty training. 

Probably the same genius who thought that speaking to Joe like Jill did after the debate was a good idea