2024 US Presidential Election

[Jwb]

ANOTHER elected Democrat turns on Biden saying he's 'OK' with Trump winning

Psy-Fi's aforementioned media bloodbath continues. I've got to wonder, are there warring factions within the Democrat party right now about what to do, because that's what it seems like. Conventional wisdom would say that replacing Biden on the ticket at this point would doom the Democrats chances...but maybe some Democrats believe it's so bad now that their chances sticking with Biden are even worse.

Well this much is clear: a good number of periodicals have appeared in high profile papers calling for him to resign, but Biden's inner circle so far shows no signs that the president is going to do so, and are ultimately willing to  back him.

In all reality, it's Bidens choice. It's a high risk play in general to replace him, but even so if there's any hope of it going smoothly at this point it is going to require Biden stepping down voluntarily and then cooperating with the campaign of his replacement. They could wheel him out as the sympathetic elderly mascot rather than the nominee.

One thing is clear though, if they opt not to replace him, all of this internal panic the Dems have now broadcasted about his prospects or even fitness to serve certainly isn't going to make it any easier for him to win. If they are going to stick with Biden they really should be keeping their mouths shut. Only time will tell.

[Psy-Fi]

Judge in Trump's hush money trial delays sentencing following Supreme Court immunity ruling

[Jwb]

Biden considering dropping out

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-withdraw-election-debate.html?smid=url-share

[SGR]

Biden considering dropping out

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-withdraw-election-debate.html?smid=url-share

Well shit, this didn't age very well, did it? 

[SGR]

Well this much is clear: a good number of periodicals have appeared in high profile papers calling for him to resign, but Biden's inner circle so far shows no signs that the president is going to do so, and are ultimately willing to  back him.

In all reality, it's Bidens choice. It's a high risk play in general to replace him, but even so if there's any hope of it going smoothly at this point it is going to require Biden stepping down voluntarily and then cooperating with the campaign of his replacement. They could wheel him out as the sympathetic elderly mascot rather than the nominee.

One thing is clear though, if they opt not to replace him, all of this internal panic the Dems have now broadcasted about his prospects or even fitness to serve certainly isn't going to make it any easier for him to win. If they are going to stick with Biden they really should be keeping their mouths shut. Only time will tell.

If he stays in the race, he'll need to have a great debate performance against Trump. And more than that, he's going to need to go out and do town halls - anything unscripted to prove he's still capable of thinking on his feet.

[Lisnaholic]

^ Yeah, and that's an uphill climb, trying to disprove what people are saying about you.

Well shit, this didn't age very well, did it?

^ Now why didn't that Joe Biden turn up on debate night ?!?

Biden and the Dems have a real dilemma on their hands, but here on SCD we thrashed it all out some time ago in this thread, didn't we :-

for god's sake can we please primary biden: https://scd.community/index.php?topic=254.0

[SGR]

^ Yeah, and that's an uphill climb, trying to disprove what people are saying about you.

Yes, once an impression has been set upon the public, it's extremely difficult to shake off that impression.

^ Now why didn't that Joe Biden turn up on debate night ?!?

Probably because that Joe Biden took 5 edited jump-cuts in a 14 second clip to make. 

Biden and the Dems have a real dilemma on their hands, but here on SCD we thrashed it all out some time ago in this thread, didn't we :-

for god's sake can we please primary biden: https://scd.community/index.php?topic=254.0

Oh yes we did. I'd like to take this moment to brag that I basically predicted how the debate would go over a year ago. 

I wonder what the debates will be like if it's Trump and Biden again? You'd think that Trump wouldn't make the mistake of talking over Biden for the whole debate again, would you? That to me seemed like a huge miscalculation from the first debate. If Trump and his team believed Biden truly wasn't cognitively all there, wouldn't the best strategy be to give him as much time to try and explain his positions as possible and let him sink himself? Trump legit did all the work for him in the debates (at least the first one, I honestly don't even remember the second one). Trump's best moments in his debates with Hillary were when he came back with a sharp rebuttal to something Hillary said (e.g. Hillary said he doesn't pay his taxes, Trump shoots back that he just works with the laws as they're given, and that she had the chance to change those laws but didn't because it would mean her friends and donors would have to pay more money)

One thing I've also noticed in the last 3 years is that Biden rarely if ever takes questions from the press. I remember Trump doing it all the time. Almost to the point where he liked the attention (yeah, he probably did) and sought out environments like that. I do remember a few instances where Biden would try to start answering questions and then his team would shoo the press people out of the room. But it almost makes you wonder, if Biden's cognitive faculties had declined in any significant way since 2020, would we even know?

[SGR]

Happy Independence Day everyone (even you filthy non-Yankees)!



Have some burgers, dogs, and chug a beer for me! That's the American way.

[DJChameleon]

^ Now why didn't that Joe Biden turn up on debate night ?!?

This was filmed between the hours of 10am to 4pm that's why. 

[SGR]

Y'know, I've been thinking about this, and I think we're so polarized as a country that we need a ticket to really unify us and bring America back together again. We know some people want Trump, and some people want Biden. So here's what we do as a compromise: we convince Trump and Hunter Biden to run together as POTUS/VPOTUS. We get the Trump and Biden that both parties want. Trump doesn't seem to have major cognitive decline yet, but if he develops it, Hunter will be there as insurance, so we solve that issue. Since they're both on the same ticket, their families can come together and discuss policy issues, and when they're feeling chippy, Trump and Biden can playfully argue about who's better at golf, and then on the weekend, they can go out and prove it ("Damn it Joe, they gave me a bad club, they rigged the club! You just wait until next weekend...listen, jack, the courts agree your club wasn't rigged, let's do pushups, you think you can do it?").

Some Democrats have concerns about Trump being a convicted felon, but if both candidates on the ticket are convicted felons and represent different parties, well we solve that issue as well. After all, who better to lead the criminal enterprise of America than two convicted felons? And with Trump and Hunter, you know White House parties will be more fun than they've ever been - hookers, porn stars, cocaine, etc. People will be BEGGING to be invited to these parties - the donations will be crazy to get in their good graces! Trump and Hunter both seem to love guns, so no conflicts there. Trump and Hunter have both been married and divorced with multiple women, in fact - they both have five children in total with three different women each. These two are guys who could really get along and bring the parties together (political parties and regular parties!).

And when Trump and Hunter Biden make threats against Russia or China their leaders will take it seriously: "Fuck, these two are convicted, drug-using felons! We better make peace in Ukraine in accordance to their demands! We best not invade Taiwan! These two are unhinged and unpredictable!"

I say we put Nixon's "Madman Theory" to the ultimate test. Come on America, who's with me?!  It's a love story in the making! 

[SGR]

Biden Tells Governors He Needs to Sleep More and Work Less at Night

Jesus, playing directly into Trump's long stated nickname for you ("Sleepy Joe") is not a winning strategy.