Supreme Court to hear arguments in challenge to ATF's ghost gun rule


QuoteThe Supreme Court on Tuesday will convene to hear arguments over the Biden administration's efforts to regulate unserialized firearms called ghost guns, considering for the second time in a matter of months whether the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Tobacco went too far when it took unilateral action to curb gun violence.




Police illegally sell restricted weapons, supplying crime


QuoteNearly 26,000 guns were traced from American crime scenes back to a government agency, law enforcement or the military between 2017 and 2021, the most recently available data, according to a report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. It isn't known how many of those were lost, stolen or sold. However, when government auditors investigated firearms that law enforcement agencies reported missing over a 15-year period, the General Services Administration Inspector General found that more than two-thirds had not gone missing at all but, rather, were inappropriately sold or traded —including Uzis and grenade launchers that were never recovered. 

Meanwhile, a separate Government Accountability Office audit in 2018 found $100 million worth of guns and ammunition bought by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement was unaccounted for. In response, ICE said that it improved how it would keep track of its inventory going forward; there was no follow-up about the weapons that were already missing. ICE did not respond to CBS News' request for comment.




News Alert: UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in midtown Manhattan, law enforcement official says


The CEO of UnitedHealthcare was shot and killed in midtown Manhattan on Wednesday morning, a law enforcement official tells CNN.

Brian Thompson was walking toward the New York Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan, dressed in a suit and tie, to attend a UnitedHealthcare conference being held in the ballroom.

A gunman, who investigators tell CNN was waiting for some time before Thompson's arrival, opened fire from 20 feet away firing multiple times, striking Thompson.

Details on the circumstances are not immediately clear, but investigators say it appears to be a targeted shooting.


What do you bet this turns out to be some guy who couldn't get health insurance and a family member died or something?


Quote from: Trollheart on Dec 04, 2024, 07:51 PMWhat do you bet this turns out to be some guy who couldn't get health insurance and a family member died or something?


I'm putting my money on his wife as the prime suspect.


Yeah or his kid. People go crazy when that happens to their children, understandably. The plot of many a TV series episode, such as FBI or Prime Suspect or whatever.


Deserves it's own thread.

A bit mad tbh.

Only God knows.

To Psy-Fi's point, immediate family should be suspects, specifically whoever would benefit with the life insurance policy (think 'hired hitmen'). I have a feeling it's not family though, and is related to his business relations...just a hunch. But it definitely appears to be a targeted hit. Highly doubt it's some aggrieved and bitter 'Charles Guiteau' kind of assassin.


Ah right I misunderstood. I thought he meant "bet it's the wife who died, and now the husband is taking revenge." I suppose it could be an insurance thing. Hey, it's America, right? Maybe someone just didn't like their premiums!

No, I still think mine is the most likely: disgruntled survivor who lost partner/child, blames medical insurance as they couldn't afford it, and decided to take out the top guy.

Or just a nut. You have them over there too, don'tcha?



It's not just a nut. It's too calculated and definitely a hired hit.

I was this cool the whole time.

Boy, 7, fatally shoots 2-year-old brother after finding gun in glove box


QuoteHundreds of children in the U.S. unintentionally shoot themselves or someone else every year, according to the nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety.

Last year, there were 411 accidental shootings by children -- the highest number Everytown for Gun Safety had seen since it began tracking the incidents in 2015.

So far this year, there have been at least 270 unintentional shootings by children, causing at least 99 deaths, according to the organization.



Quote from: Trollheart on Dec 04, 2024, 07:51 PMWhat do you bet this turns out to be some guy who couldn't get health insurance and a family member died or something?


Message on bullets fired by UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's assassin bear eerie link to book condemning insurance companies

QuoteThompson led the country's largest private health insurer, which has a controversial history of rejecting customers' claims and is facing a Department of Justice antitrust investigation.


I was going with the obvious suspect angle but your suspicion may be closer to the motive in this case.


A kid wrote a program that interrogated the citibike rental database, and was able to determine that the shooter was the only person riding north in Central Park during the relevant time period. When entering Central Park the shooter was wearing the gray backpack but didn't have it on exit. A police search turned up zilch, leading to speculation he may have handed it off to someone in the park.

The photos released show a person wearing two different color straps, black and gray. The messages written on the bullet casings "delay" "depose" "deny" is a phrase used by lawyers opposing insurance companies in court.


I heard he wasn't riding a citibike though so that whole program was for naught.

I was this cool the whole time.

https://wgntv.com/news/british-indie-rock-band-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-california-10-minutes-into-us-tour-group-says/


QuoteA British indie rock band that had just embarked on a U.S. tour said they were robbed at gunpoint outside a Starbucks in California on Tuesday.

Sports Team, a six-piece London-based alternative rock band, had stopped for coffee when someone alerted them that their van was being ransacked by robbers, according to their latest Instagram post.

One of the band members said they went outside to confront the robbers, only for them to "pull out a gun."

"Just been robbed at gun point 10 minutes into the US tour," the band wrote. (Sports Team had embarked on the U.S. leg of their current tour on Dec. 2, with a show in San Francisco.)

Kind of hilarious 😂 Tourists need to be more careful.



I was this cool the whole time.