Started by Guybrush, Sep 08, 2023, 12:21 AM
Quote from: Guybrush on Oct 26, 2023, 11:06 PMNow that it's spooky season, maybe you ought to watch:The Wicker Man (1973)Yes, this wonderful movie was just released in a restored 4k version with a 94 minutes runtime, so that's now the definitive version to get.On the small Scottish island Summerisle, a young girl has gone missing. Howie, a deeply christian police officer, is tasked with flying out to Summerisle to investigate the young girl's disappearance. Making it more troublesome for Howie, the people on Summerisle are all immoral heathens with absolutely no sense of proper decency. If he can just figure out their strange practices, maybe he can figure out what happened to the girl?I love movies that feature the occult and The Wicker Man might just be the best one of them all. It looks like a made for TV movie when you first put it on, but it soon grabs you.. and the ending is probably my favorite ending of any movie ever made.Add to that a soundtrack by Paul Giovanni and the band Magnet that has some of the most beautiful folk music of the 70s and the mix is just too good to miss.At the start of the movie, with the small plane flying across the Scottish coast and corn rigs comes on, it's a balm for the soul:And Willow's song might actually be the most beautiful folk ballad of the 70s period.So watch this if you haven't, but remember to avoid the original theatrical release like the plague as it's cut to pieces and a nonsensical mess.Always look for final or director's cut with this one 🙂 preferably the recent restoration, of course!
Quote from: ribbons on Nov 02, 2023, 04:54 AMI watched this tonight via BFI Player Classics, and finished about an hour ago. All I can say is, what a highly disturbing, disorienting but well made and well casted film. The end really shook me to the core, more so than anything I've seen in a long time! I am feeling unsettled and keep thinking I might see *the islanders* or *His Lordship* in the shadows of my apartment. Help! PS: While watching the film I wondered whether Pulp's song "Wickerman" connects to it in any way. Just looked it up and allegedly Pulp's "Wickerman" samples Giovanni's "Willow's Song". Hope I don't hear pounding sounds on my walls tonight! PPS: I have a pillow here that my grandmother made - with a hare on it. I posted a pic of it in the 5-pack thread a few days ago, before seeing the film and its *March hares*. Yikes! Final PS: I wonder what root-lifting spray Christopher Lee used to volumize his hair for this movie.
Quote from: Guybrush on Nov 02, 2023, 06:25 AMNice, @ribbons 🤩 I hope you liked it! The ending certainly stuck with me for a while. You described it as disorienting. It can be, but this may also be the mark of the theatrical cut at 88 minutes (the one to avoid). If you didn't see any scenes of Howie on the mainland in a church or chatting with colleagues before flying out to Summerisle, you may have seen the "wrong" version. But then you can enjoy one of the good edits on a later occasion 😉Also, I wouldn't mind hearing some singing and pounding on my walls 😄 poor Howie.
Quote from: ribbons on Nov 02, 2023, 07:14 AMYes, I did see the scene of Howie in the church (I recall he was speaking at a lectern?) and chatting with colleagues before flying to Summerisle, so supposedly I did see the final cut? I'll double-check the BFI Player to be sure. I did like the film and thought it was very unique, but the ending was really upsetting to me, to be honest, because I liked poor Howie actually. I think he sincerely thought he was doing good. And maybe it hit close to home, because like Howie I'm personally very attached to Jesus (although I am not formally religious like Howie). LOL at your comment re: singing and pounding on the walls! What I didn't quite get (and I'll have to rewatch the film) is why the *seduction* attempts when they were seeking a virgin?
Quote from: Guybrush on Nov 02, 2023, 05:22 PMMight be you got to see the director's cut 🙂 I believe that can be identified by the inclusion of some short very low quality scenes as some film was lost in a fire and they had to use copies.About Howie and the ending, I like Howie but also find him very judgmental and occasionally rude to the Islanders. Their liberal attitudes align more with my own values than Howie's christian dogma.Side comment, but as an atheist, I don't see a huge amount of difference between the magical practices / rituals of the heathen villagers and those done in a Christian church (like baptism, consuming the body of Christ, the priesthood's ritual costumes). I find it all a little eerie.. So that also influences in part how I view this movie.About Wicker Man's ending and Willow's seductionAbout the ending, it certainly is surprisingly brutal. There's no escape for poor Howie. I'm sorry if it was a bit much!About Willow, maybe she was trying to give him a chance to escape his fate. Or maybe it was a part of this idea that the sacrifice should come of his/her own free will and so a bit of temptation may have been part of the ritual.[close]
Quote from: ribbons on Nov 02, 2023, 06:17 PMHi, Tore - Thanks for the spoilered explanation re Willow's seduction, which makes sense! I definitely need to watch the film again (dare I do so? 😊) And btw, please don't be sorry, although it's very kind of you say so – I watched of my own accord, and believe me, I'll watch again! I tend to be a little counterphobic and repeated viewings of films I find upsetting always lessens my distress!Thanks for the info about the brief low quality scenes, which will be helpful in figuring out which version I'm watching.I agree with your opinion about Howie being judgmental and brusque with the islanders at times. He is a flawed character to be sure, but also well meaning in his quest to find the missing girl, imho. I personally am not aligned with Christian orthodoxy either, and agree with you about the similarities in the rituals of the pagan villagers and those of the Christian church. However...let's just say the ending destroyed my earlier more balanced perspective!Thanks again for introducing me to this film. Another very interesting rec by you, Tore.
Quote from: Guybrush on Nov 02, 2023, 11:38 PMThe ending can definitely do that! I don't disagree.. and thank YOU for checking it out 🙂Before we forget spooky season completely, I thought I'd write a little bit about another movie I've seen quite a few times and like to mention now and then. It is:The Innocents (1961)Deborah Kerr plays the lead in this sometimes creepy movie about a woman taking on the job as a governess to a couple of neglected upper class children living in a huge mansion with a very small staff. While the children are sweet, there may be some lasting (or lingering?) corrupting influence on them.The movie is well casted, beautifully shot and so atmospheric in black and white and it has a really clever screenplay. It's the sort of movie where, at the end, you can't help but sit and analyse the various clues that are given throughout its runtime.The exterior shots of the mansion were filmed in Sheffield Park in Sussex and me and my wife wanted to go in 2014 when we were in England, but just couldn't quite fit it into our schedule. I'm hoping to get the chance again.You probably know I love Kate Bush and she has a song inspired by The Innocents on her third album:So as far as classy, old, spooky movies go, this is one is warmly recommended 🙂
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Nov 02, 2023, 11:41 PMThis looks right up my alley, thank you for the recommendation!
Quote from: DJChameleon on Nov 07, 2023, 10:59 AMThis reminds me thst a new Hellraiser movie was released on Hulu either this year or last year. I need to check it out. Hellraiser is one of my favorite franchises that I definitely got into while I was too young to be watching stuff like that. Probably around 9 years or so.