Started by Guybrush, Sep 08, 2023, 12:21 AM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 13, 2023, 04:20 PMI was a big Tim Burton fan when Corpse Bride came out. I liked it at the time, but I have not seen it since I was in high school.I love Nightmare, I was absolutely that kid who rocked the Jack Skellington merch from Hot Topic as a teenager. I had a fierce debate with a coworker a few months ago on whether it was more of a Halloween movie or more of a Christmas movie. I was arguing on the side of Halloween, for the record.And while we're on the subject, Die Hard is not a Christmas movie and I will die on this hill. Anyone who seriously thinks it is one is taking a meme too far.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 19, 2023, 11:26 AMOkay so Nightmare is a Halloween movie but I can't get on board with you discrediting Die Hard as a Christmas movie. It takes place during Christmas, how does that NOT make it a Christmas movie? I will watch it every Christmas day til the end of time!The debate/conversation I had recently was which is the superior Halloween kids movie, Nightmare before Christmas Or Hocus Pocus?
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 19, 2023, 12:15 PMMy logic regarding Die Hard is that it taking place at Christmas is almost entirely incidental to the rest of the movie. You could set it at any other time and it would be more or less the same, and just as great. But we can certainly agree to disagree!And that's tough on the Halloween movies, haha. Both absolute classics. I think I like Nightmare more on a sentimental level but it's very close.
Quote from: Meatwad on Sep 17, 2023, 10:10 AMπ
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 19, 2023, 12:41 PMI'm more partial to witchcraft and witches in general so Hocus Pocus gets my vote. Plus I'm not a big fan of Tim Burton. I know that's shocking but yeah it's true.Yes it could have taken place at any other time but it didn't. It took place during Christmas so therefore it is a Christmas movie. If it took place during Thanksgiving. It would be a Thanksgiving movie but yeah we will have to agree to disagree.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 19, 2023, 12:42 PMI love Pi as well and I'm just now realizing that it's an A24 production.A24 doesn't miss! they be releasing bangers on top of bangers on top of bangers. I watched "Talk to Me" last night and had a great time another A24 production.
Quote from: Meatwad on Sep 19, 2023, 01:10 PMNot sure A24 has anything to do with Aronofsky and I doubt they've been around since 98. Maybe just means they have the distribution now but Im just guessing.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 19, 2023, 01:01 PMMy point was more that if you can set Die Hard at any other time, it clearly doesn't have much to do with Christmas on a narrative level. You couldn't set Elf or The Santa Clause or The Grinch at any other time. But on some level I get the Die Hard Christmas thing, it's the atmosphere of it being set at Christmas that does a lot aesthetically even if the plot is not really affected by it. So I think in that sense we're more in agreement than my first post let on.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 19, 2023, 01:33 PMChristmas IS integral to the plot though. Christmas time is a time for forgiveness and about family. So John Mclaine heads to LA to try to reconcile with his wife and visit his kids for the holidays. There was also the whole fact that they have a Office Christmas party going on. There would be no reason for so many employees to be within the office building at night. Sure it's not slap you over the head Christmasy but Christmas is important to the plot.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 19, 2023, 01:30 PMAronofsky sold the rights to A24 this year that's why they have their logo plastered on that movie poster.I just looked it up and you are right. A24 wasn't around in the late 90s when this movie first came out. They have only been around since 2013.