Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jun 21, 2023, 06:31 PMGuess it's time for RFK Jr. 2024

I stand by the theory that RFK Jr would beat Trump a lot more convincingly than Biden would in 2024.


Quote from: Nimbly9 on Jun 21, 2023, 06:31 PMGuess it's time for RFK Jr. 2024

Is this the same guy that was on Rogan podcast recently if so he's a lunatic.

Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 21, 2023, 01:19 PMYou really think Trump could win? I suppose if he goes against Biden again there's a chance but is Biden really gonna be the democrat candidate?

The old school Dems will push Biden through for a second term.


I was this cool the whole time.

I do think, if Biden has to (or decides to) step down for health reasons, that the DNC would get Gavin Newsom in his place, one way or the other. So RFK Jr. is a complete hypothetical against Trump. If RFK Jr. somehow does end up as the Dem nominee, that would mean that the Dems had a complete collapse in strategy and control.

I have to wonder though - what are the possibilities that Biden wants to run again (or did want to run again) just to make sure he had the ability to pardon his son from any crimes he might be charged with? Think what you want of Joe or Hunter, but what father wouldn't want to make sure he could pardon his son if he had the power to? When it boils down to it, I don't like Hunter Biden, but his alleged crimes really were victimless ones. If I was his father and I was president, and it came down to it, I'd pardon him every time.


Quote from: SGR on Jun 21, 2023, 11:31 PMIf I was his father and I was president, and it came down to it, I'd pardon him every time.

Pardoning seems weird sometimes as it breaks with the idea that the law is the same for all people. If you pardon someone, it should be because you believe they're actually innocent. Otherwise, it shows a lack of integrity.

Not saying I wouldn't do it for my kid, though.. Who knows.

Happiness is a warm manatee

Quote from: Guybrush on Jun 22, 2023, 02:28 AMPardoning seems weird sometimes as it breaks with the idea that the law is the same for all people. If you pardon someone, it should be because you believe they're actually innocent. Otherwise, it shows a lack of integrity.

Not saying I wouldn't do it for my kid, though.. Who knows.

Yeah, that's the thing. It's just an idea or rather, an ideal, It's not actually true in practice. Not in America at least.


Quote from: SGR on Jun 22, 2023, 02:42 AMYeah, that's the thing. It's just an idea or rather, an ideal, It's not actually true in practice. Not in America at least.

Yes, but since it's a cornerstone of democracy, I'd definitely want whoever I voted for to act like they believe. It's important that we try, even if we can't quite get there.

I do realize the US probably doesn't score very high as a democracy these days.

Happiness is a warm manatee

Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 21, 2023, 01:19 PMYou really think Trump could win? I suppose if he goes against Biden again there's a chance but is Biden really gonna be the democrat candidate?
can trump win? Absolutely.

And is biden going to be the candidate? yes lol

Barring some truly unforeseen health event like sgr mentioned.  For all the talk about how he's old and demented it's absolutely not enough to force him to step down. 

You can decide to primary him if you like but what ends up happening there is you just kneecap your own candidate going in to the general because in all likelihood biden wins the primary but is damaged by infighting and a vote of lack of confidence by his own party.  Which is exactly what deciding to primary your own incumbent president represents. There's no two ways around that.



Wanting Biden as president for any reason besides not wanting Trump or an opposing Republican is totally fucked.  Wanting him for him is mindblowingly fucked.


Biden should drop Kamala and make Hunter his vp.


Quote from: Jwb on Jun 23, 2023, 02:52 AMBiden should drop Kamala and make Hunter his vp.

Trump should make Hunter his VP so he stops getting investigated.


I bet Hunter on a crack binge could have found those 10,000 votes.


Quote from: Jwb on Jun 23, 2023, 04:21 AMI bet Hunter on a crack binge could have found those 10,000 votes.

Note to Democrat operatives: don't hide Republican ballots in hookers' assholes.