for god's sake can we please primary biden, please

[DJChameleon]

Nephew of JFK, son of RFK. He's really (at least right now) the only other Dem candidate (besides Biden) that's polling in the double digits. The interesting thing with him is that he also polls well (for a Democrat) with Republicans. The idea being that if he does end up as the Dem nominee, there's enough disillusioned Republicans who'd vote for him over Trump. And even if Dems don't agree with everything he says, they're gonna vote for him over Trump too.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/2024/national/

The same way that he's hoping that Biden has to bow out because of health issues, DeSantis is hoping that Trump decides to bow out, or is forced to because of his precarious legal situation. If everything stays the same as it is now (or close to it), then we're all but assured a Trump/Biden rematch.

I want Biden to win and for his health issues to crop up right after he gets on office so we can have the first female president even though Kamala is a shit show.

[SGR]

I want Biden to win and for his health issues to crop up right after he gets on office so we can have the first female president even though Kamala is a shit show.

Seriously? You'd want that to happen, even though she's a shit show, just to say we've had the first woman president? Not to mention, if his health issues happen to 'crop up' right after he gets in office, many Americans who voted for him will feel like they were lied to - even if that isn't the case.

Personally, I'd like the first woman president to be one who's nominated and voted to be President, not one who ended up in the position because the sitting president couldn't finish his term. Kamala would be guaranteed to give women a bad rep as President (even if that's unfair to other women). She's got no charisma and she has absolutely god awful communications skills. The first woman president should be someone special and remarkable - Kamala is neither (at least not in a good way). AOC would be a much, much better prospect as first woman president.

[DJChameleon]

Seriously? You'd want that to happen, even though she's a shit show, just to say we've had the first woman president? Not to mention, if his health issues happen to 'crop up' right after he gets in office, many Americans who voted for him will feel like they were lied to - even if that isn't the case.

Personally, I'd like the first woman president to be one who's nominated and voted to be President, not one who ended up in the position because the sitting president couldn't finish his term. Kamala would be guaranteed to give women a bad rep as President (even if that's unfair to other women). She's got no charisma and she has absolutely god awful communications skills. The first woman president should be someone special and remarkable - Kamala is neither (at least not in a good way). AOC would be a much, much better prospect as first woman president.

I'm sure the prospect of her becoming president was in the minds of those that voted for Biden in the first place. They weren't only voting for Biden. She is her own person and despite being a terrible first female president it will still be a memorable moment regardless.

[SGR]

I'm sure the prospect of her becoming president was in the minds of those that voted for Biden in the first place. They weren't only voting for Biden. She is her own person and despite being a terrible first female president it will still be a memorable moment regardless.

True, they were also voting against Trump. I highly doubt many truly dwelled (at least for long) on the possibility that Biden could croak and Kamala could become President. Also, back in 2020, she wasn't as nationally known as she is now. The idea that anyone could be excited or enthusiastic about the propsect of voting for Biden again in hopes that he croaks shortly into the second term, so that Kamala can become president, not for her competency or integrity or good policies, but just because she's a woman is stark raving mad to me. Shouldn't we prefer to delay that memorable moment for someone who's actually competent and who gets voted into the Oval Office at the top of the ticket? Or would you really rather Kamala prove, as the first woman president, that women can be just as incompetent and useless at being President as men are?

[TheBig3]

I always tell students to never use that word except if you want to refer to the very specific meaning it has in Sartre's thought, because in general it doesn't mean shit. Now in politics the whole point is that words don't mean shit but even so, Hillary Clinton and "authentic" lmao

Amazing argument. But what else did I expect from a philosophy major.

At any rate, I said what I said. Hillary Clinton is a lot closer to what she appeared to be than Kamala Harris. No one felt like she was Cincinnatus. She looked like a real estate agent, and was a known policy wonk, and she had a laugh that made thrice-divorced men in pickup trucks punch drywall.

[Jwb]

Hillary is an authentic blood drinking reptile.

[jadis]

Amazing argument. But what else did I expect from a philosophy major.

At any rate, I said what I said. Hillary Clinton is a lot closer to what she appeared to be than Kamala Harris. No one felt like she was Cincinnatus. She looked like a real estate agent, and was a known policy wonk, and she had a laugh that made thrice-divorced men in pickup trucks punch drywall.

More of a snigger than an "argument" tbh...

I was never a philosophy "major" btw (though one of my two doctoral supervisors was and still is a rather prominent philosopher and it was his clout that got me my first "the guy who teaches Foucault so that we proper serious philosophers don't have to" gigs). But if there's one thing post-Kantian philosophy can teach us is that it's more important or at least more interesting to try establishing the conditions of possibility of any particular argument than adopt this or that position on it. What are the rhetorical, ideological, logical, linguistic factors and underlying assumptions that make a certain utterance appear utterly nonsensical in one context and perfectly natural in another.

I guess that at a certain level of immersion into the US political discourse, talking about Hillary Clinton and "authenticity" makes perfect sense. And that's okay. Others it's bound to make snigger.

[Lexi Darling]

I mean frankly I don't think any politicians are authentic, especially at the federal level. They might as well be our robot overlords at this point.

[TheBig3]

I mean frankly I don't think any politicians are authentic, especially at the federal level. They might as well be our robot overlords at this point.

Some can't hide who they are, despite their best efforts.

More of a snigger than an "argument" tbh...

I was never a philosophy "major" btw (though one of my two doctoral supervisors was and still is a rather prominent philosopher and it was his clout that got me my first "the guy who teaches Foucault so that we proper serious philosophers don't have to" gigs). But if there's one thing post-Kantian philosophy can teach us is that it's more important or at least more interesting to try establishing the conditions of possibility of any particular argument than adopt this or that position on it. What are the rhetorical, ideological, logical, linguistic factors and underlying assumptions that make a certain utterance appear utterly nonsensical in one context and perfectly natural in another.

I guess that at a certain level of immersion into the US political discourse, talking about Hillary Clinton and "authenticity" makes perfect sense. And that's okay. Others it's bound to make snigger.

I was just being an ass.

[Jwb]

My favorite example of authentic Hillary is when she put on a blaccent to quote poetry like a robotic mullet headed cunt.

[SGR]

My favorite example of authentic Hillary is when she put on a blaccent to quote poetry like a robotic mullet headed cunt.

But have you considered that she also always carries hot sauce in her purse?

[SGR]

Biden's re-election campaign is off to a fiery start!

[Psy-Fi]

I wonder which Republican candidate will be President after the 2024 Presidential race comes to an end.

[Lexi Darling]

This is a nightmare scenario. For whatever reason, Biden running for re-election is apparently the best strategy the Dems have, and while of course I would vote for a bag of corn nuts over Trump or Desantis, it's comically unfair that the only person who can stop the Repubes from trampling over the rights of women/LGBT people/minorities is... this guy.

Been nice knowing you.

[Psy-Fi]

"God save the Queen, man"

Joe Biden left an audience baffled on Friday night when he ended a speech with his latest gaffe, saying: "God save the Queen".

Uttering a phrase possibly not heard on American soil since about 1776, the US president confused gun safety advocates as he cut off an address in Connecticut.

Mr Biden told the audience at the National Safer Communities Summit in West Hartford that bad weather was heading into the area and therefore he would be unable to shake hands with all the attendees, an interaction known in public relations parlance as a "ropeline".

The US president said: "I will stand in front of each section – no, I really mean it – if you can see the camera they can see you. It is the least consequential part of this whole meeting for you, I promise."

Then just before putting down his microphone, he said: "All right? God save the Queen, man".