Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 04:39 AMAgreed. They were understandably influential but they're not even in my top 50 of 80s alt/indie/post-punk/whatever bands.

It's possible they'd crack the top 50 for me, but I don't think so. I know it's popular for everyone to shit on U2 these days, but I would argue that the tracks from Joshua Tree alone add up to more good songs than The Smiths entire output.

Throw your dog the invisible bone.

Quote from: Janszoon on May 24, 2023, 04:56 AMIt's possible they'd crack the top 50 for me, but I don't think so. I know it's popular for everyone to shit on U2 these days, but I would argue that the tracks from Joshua Tree alone add up to more good songs than The Smiths entire output.

it took me a long time to find a good psychiatrist but it's really worth it


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 04:55 AMgirl, you've lost your goddamn mind

Haha, I've got more spicy takes where that came from. For example: The Fall are the most frustrating band of the 80s for me because they have pretty consistently great riffs and instrumentals but then Mark E. Smith comes in with the vocals and absolutely ruins it.

And now you know why I didn't post on MB for 15 years!

"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 04:59 AMit took me a long time to find a good psychiatrist but it's really worth it

I know it can be hard for Smiths fans, but I'm glad you have someone in your corner to help you come to terms with the truth.

Throw your dog the invisible bone.

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 05:01 AMHaha, I've got more spicy takes where that came from. For example: The Fall are the most frustrating band of the 80s for me because they have pretty consistently great riffs and instrumentals but then Mark E. Smith comes in with the vocals and absolutely ruins it.

And now you know why I didn't post on MB for 15 years!

goddamn




Quote from: Janszoon on May 24, 2023, 05:01 AMI know it can be hard for Smiths fans, but I'm glad you have someone in your corner to help you come to terms with the truth.

lol

good comeback


Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 05:01 AMHaha, I've got more spicy takes where that came from. For example: The Fall are the most frustrating band of the 80s for me because they have pretty consistently great riffs and instrumentals but then Mark E. Smith comes in with the vocals and absolutely ruins it.

And now you know why I didn't post on MB for 15 years!




Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 05:01 AMHaha, I've got more spicy takes where that came from. For example: The Fall are the most frustrating band of the 80s for me because they have pretty consistently great riffs and instrumentals but then Mark E. Smith comes in with the vocals and absolutely ruins it.

And now you know why I didn't post on MB for 15 years!

More seriously, how deeply have you explored them? It might help if you reframe and think of their music not as songs but instead as incantations. Sounds like total bullshit, and maybe it is - but their music does hypnotize me, and MES's lyrics/vocals are a big part of the formula:






Quote from: SGR on May 24, 2023, 05:09 AMMore seriously, how deeply have you explored them? It might help if you reframe and think of their music not as songs but instead as incantations. Sounds like total bullshit, and maybe it is - but their music does hypnotize me, and MES's lyrics/vocals are a big part of the formula:





I'll give it a shot! I've listened to everything from their debut through Hex Enduction Hour and a smattering of tracks after that, though none of it super recently.

Like I said I do like a lot of elements of their music, I just never vibed with the angry British man ranting over them. But I'm always open to having my mind changed!

"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 05:14 AMI'll give it a shot! I've listened to everything from their debut through Hex Enduction Hour and a smattering of tracks after that, though none of it super recently.

Like I said I do like a lot of elements of their music, I just never vibed with the angry British man ranting over them. But I'm always open to having my mind changed!

Fair enough - I completely understand why they're not for everyone, but they're definitely my favorite band - and believe it or not, they actually got a little more easily digestible (at least in some songs) in their later era, this song for example:


But they also didn't abandon their formula of unique weirdness which can be seen on this 2013 track - I don't know of a Fall song in which Mark's entrance to the song is more jarring:




their discography is so intimidating that i basically settled on the compilation

50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong


honestly i think i might do a full week of nothing but the fall sometime this summer


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 05:34 AMhonestly i think i might do a full week of nothing but the fall sometime this summer

Why do it in the summer, when you can wait and do it in... the fall?

Throw your dog the invisible bone.

Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 05:33 AMtheir discography is so intimidating that i basically settled on the compilation

50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong

For some reason, I thought you'd heard most of it.

I've listened to every record (repeatedly), own most of them on CD, own all but 3 on vinyl - it's an incredibly rewarding discography and unlike some bands, they never have a point after which they massively 'fall' off, so to say. Definitely all worth hearing at least once.

My recent discography goal that I finally trekked through was Miles Davis - he has even more studio albums than The Fall believe it or not. And the quality is definitely more spotty.


Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 05:01 AMHaha, I've got more spicy takes where that came from. For example: The Fall are the most frustrating band of the 80s for me because they have pretty consistently great riffs and instrumentals but then Mark E. Smith comes in with the vocals and absolutely ruins it.

And now you know why I didn't post on MB for 15 years!
I'm shook lol