Quote from: Rubber Soul on May 22, 2023, 06:07 PMThanks, DJ. As a non-military person myself, I didn't know how to explain the unexplainable to TR. Yes, I have relatives in the military, mostly for economic reasons so I get where you're coming from. It's tragic our politicians send you guys to danger zones throughout the world. If you want to thank a veteran for his/her service like on a game show or something, don't send them in harm's way to begin with. They're not the enemy, they're only human like the rest of us.

Did you have to serve in a war, DJ? I can only imagine some of the horrors that go with war.

I was in the Navy and fortunately I didn't have to go see a conflict up close. I feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war then come back home with PTSD and liberal cucks like TR talking about shit they have no idea about.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: DJChameleon on May 22, 2023, 07:55 PMI was in the Navy and fortunately I didn't have to go see a conflict up close. I feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war then come back home with PTSD and liberal cucks like TR talking about shit they have no idea about.

i'm not liberal

liberals are the bitches who cry for you

QuoteI feel bad for veterans that did have to see horrors of war

i feel bad for the innocent people they go to foreign cultures and murder

and what's with "have to"

there's no conscription


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 05:46 PMglad the suicide rates are up too

This is an absolutely heinous and disgusting thing to say. As someone who has attempted, this attitude toward human life makes me sick to my stomach to read.

I try to be nice and understanding and use respectful etiquette as a rule, but I have my limits.

"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 08:10 PMi'm not liberal

liberals are the bitches who cry for you

i feel bad for the innocent people they go to foreign cultures and murder

and what's with "have to"

there's no conscription

No way it's always liberals that have a hard on just like you mostly college age kids that want to rage against the system and military industrial complex. You sound JUST like them or an older hippie from the 70s. Liberals are always anti-military for the most part while Republicans are pro-military.

My issue with your argument is that you are taking your vitriol out on the wrong people. Your hatred and anger should be directed towards the politicians and higher ups that get us into these stupid conflicts/wars.

It's similar to if you railed against Capitalism but at the same time was saying fuck retail workers I hope they die and burn in hell. If you are angry about Capitalism take it up with the big corporations and the CEOs of some of these insanely rich companies that are taking adventage of the poor and working class. Not the people that need to work two to three different retail jobs to provide for their families because CEOs of one company doesn't want to pay them a living wage so they have to work other jobs to make ends meet. Also cutting their hours just shy of being able to qualify for medical benefits and all the other shady practices they do.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 22, 2023, 08:33 PMThis is an absolutely heinous and disgusting thing to say. As someone who has attempted, this attitude toward human life makes me sick to my stomach to read.

I try to be nice and understanding and use respectful etiquette as a rule, but I have my limits.

don't go to foreign countries and kill people then


Quote from: DJChameleon on May 22, 2023, 08:39 PMNo way it's always liberals that have a hard on just like you mostly college age kids that want to rage against the system and military industrial complex. You sound JUST like them or an older hippie from the 70s. Liberals are always anti-military for the most part while Republicans are pro-military.

My issue with your argument is that you are taking your vitriol out on the wrong people. Your hatred and anger should be directed towards the politicians and higher ups that get us into these stupid conflicts/wars.

It's similar to if you railed against Capitalism but at the same time was saying fuck retail workers I hope they die and burn in hell. If you are angry about Capitalism take it up with the big corporations and the CEOs of some of these insanely rich companies that are taking adventage of the poor and working class. Not the people that need to work two to three different retail jobs to provide for their families because CEOs of one company doesn't want to pay them a living wage so they have to work other jobs to make ends meet. Also cutting their hours just shy of being able to qualify for medical benefits and all the other shady practices they do.

the working poor don't go to third world countries and murder people


You're being an asshole. Thinking that praise of veterans isn't appropriate(with which I agree) doesn't mean you can talk to people in such a cruel way. You and I have had this argument before, but having certain strong convictions is never an excuse to lose sight of other people's humanity. Once you cross that line you're being stupidly dogmatic


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 08:48 PMthe working poor don't go to third world countries and murder people

You are still missing the point.

You know what nevermind I'm done.

I was this cool the whole time.

Quote from: Marie Monday on May 22, 2023, 09:37 PMYou're being an asshole. Thinking that praise of veterans isn't appropriate(with which I agree) doesn't mean you can talk to people in such a cruel way. You and I have had this argument before, but having certain strong convictions is never an excuse to lose sight of other people's humanity. Once you cross that line you're being stupidly dogmatic

tell that to the mothers of children killed


TR, you're crossing the line.

When everyone says you're wrong, gross or being an asshole, it's time to reconsider. Instead you double down.

You have your opinions. I don't mind that you have them, but I do mind how you express them and how that affects others.

Please be nice.

Happiness is a warm manatee

hell yes i double down on saying fuck you to the american death machine

dear american military

please fucking die




Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 22, 2023, 11:20 PMhell yes i double down on saying fuck you to the american death machine

dear american military

please fucking die

It's possible to be opposed to the American military and the military industrial complex without being joyful and exhilirated when veterans (who may have never even seen combat) die or commit suicide. That's completely unhinged, dude. Why harbor such hatred for those who don't have any control over the system that they're a part of? What would you think of someone that would celebrate if you committed suicide because you fund this military with your taxes? Their argument? You could move to a different country.


Quote from: SGR on May 23, 2023, 01:30 AMIt's possible to be opposed to the American military and the military industrial complex without being joyful and exhilirated when veterans (who may have never even seen combat) die or commit suicide. That's completely unhinged, dude. Why harbor such hatred for those who don't have any control over the system that they're a part of? What would you think of someone that would celebrate if you committed suicide because you fund this military with your taxes? Their argument? You could move to a different country.

i think foreign people who want americans to die are fully justified




Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 23, 2023, 01:52 AMi think foreign people who want americans to die are fully justified


Any Americans?