Kanye West

[Lucem Ferre]

Yah

[jimmy jazz]

Yah

Kanye's worst album is better than anything ICP have done no matter how much of a bellend he is.

[Lucem Ferre]

Idk. I've actually heard almost all of what each artist has done.

Feels So Right, Mr. Johnson's Head & In My Room each are better than both Vultures albums combined.

Have you even heard an ICP album?

[jimmy jazz]

I can believe the Vultures thing but there's no way you think ICP are better than Kanye. He's ruining his legacy now but his early material and all the classics he produced for other people still happened. ICP are not serious. It's gimmick music for nerds.

[Lucem Ferre]

I can believe the Vultures thing but there's no way you think ICP are better than Kanye. He's ruining his legacy now but his early material and all the classics he produced for other people still happened. ICP are not serious. It's gimmick music for nerds.

Kanye West pretending to be conscious when he had ghost writers is just as much of a nerdy gimmick as ICP.

ICP using a carnival as a metaphor for poverty tourism feels more serious to me than Kanye talking about his addiction to consumerism or the 50,000th song about fame being hard or what ever the hell Black Skinhead is about.

[Lucem Ferre]

:wumpscut: > Kanye West

[jimmy jazz]

It's not lol, and Kanye isn't good cos of his rapping it's because of his producing. I don't think anyone rates him as a great rapper.

[Lucem Ferre]

So Kanye is a serious rapper but you think his rapping sucks?

He's only really ever fully produced 1 album. The rest he has a team of producers help him. So you're not a fan of Kanye, you're a fan of the whole team.

Kanye is a pretty good rapper when he wants to be. He's especially good with ghost writers. I care about lyrics, though. That's why I know ICP > Kanye West.

ICP are some goats with a career that has outlived legends while being black balled by the industry. I wouldn't be surprised if their career outlived Kanye's.

Lupe Fiasco > Kanye West

[Lexi Darling]

I love ICP (up through Hell's Pit at least) and have historically loved Kanye's first four albums. I think musically it's apples and oranges to the point where linear comparisons are pretty silly, but on a personal totally subjective level I still bump ICP these days whereas I just can't listen to anything Kanye has ever made without feeling like shit about the person he chose to become.

[Lucem Ferre]

Mortal Kombat II for the Super Nintendo > Kanye West

[jimmy jazz]

I didn't say he's a serious rapper and I never said his music sucks. I said he isn't rated for his rapping. Dr. Dre isn't rated for his rapping either, doesn't mean his music sucks. He's had input from other people, so what? I didn't say he entirely produced everything he's ever done. And he produced Common's 'Be' album, so there's another one. Plus the beats he's made for other people.

ICP is definitely gimmick music for nerds. I can understand if you're about 12 and you rate it but if you're older than that you need to grow up.

[jimmy jazz]

ICP ffs.

I'd rather listen to Fred Durst.

[Lucem Ferre]

I didn't say he's a serious rapper and I never said his music sucks. I said he isn't rated for his rapping. Dr. Dre isn't rated for his rapping either, doesn't mean his music sucks. He's had input from other people, so what? I didn't say he entirely produced everything he's ever done. And he produced Common's 'Be' album, so there's another one. Plus the beats he's made for other people.

ICP is definitely gimmick music for nerds. I can understand if you're about 12 and you rate it but if you're older than that you need to grow up.

Nothing says "grown up" like throwing a tantrum over a different music opinion. 

Imagine calling this childish. SMH.

Edit: Show Me The Body > Kanye West

[jimmy jazz]

Discussions are tantrums now? lol

Probably listen to Kevin Federline before ICP as well tbh.

[Lucem Ferre]

Discussions are tantrums now? lol

Probably listen to Kevin Federline before ICP as well tbh.

I'm having a discussion based on the merits of the music.

You're throwing middle school insults because you can't handle differing tastes.

Mostly because you've never actually listened to enough ICP to form a respectable opinion on them.

You don't get black balled by the industry just to become hip hop legends with a career still going strong after 40+ years if you only make shitty music for 12 year olds.

Twiztid > Kanye West