cis male is a slur

[Lucem Ferre]

When I had questions I got roasted by MB.

But I educated myself and now I know more about the topic than the people that were giving me shit.

With their questions (excluding JWB) they got answers but they don't like them so they moved goal posts and still got treated with more respect than I did.

Y'all need to do better at recognizing bad faith actors. I wouldn't be hostile towards someone if I knew their questions were legitimate.

[Jwb]

Excluding me meaning you're saying I'm not a bad faith actor? You don't think I'm a nazi anymore or what?

I have to say you don't exactly seem like the bastion of knowledge on the topic you seem to think you are.  You're using peer pressure rather than an actual argument to try to sway people to your side because that's how you were probably convinced as well. 

[degrassi.knoll]

When I had questions I got roasted by MB.

But I educated myself and now I know more about the topic than the people that were giving me shit.

By who?

Good for you for educating yourself, but be wary of overcompensation. Some people get hurt and want others to experience the same, some people get hurt and want to prevent others from having the same experience.

Personally I'm just over the entire "EdUcAtE yOuRsElF" bitchy attitude surrounding all of identity politics. But I live in a liberal bubble of the softest, most oppressed, most victimized (white) queer people to ever experience hurt feelings, so I am generally irritated by the idea of people feeling entitled to only having positive emotions and never being questioned about anything because of how they ~identify. Not saying that's happened here, just a general gripe.

[Jwb]

He sounds like he has fuckin stockholm syndrome lol.

LF like I had questions too guys but they roasted me into submission, so i decided to reeducate myself like a pavlovian dog responding to negative stimuli.

[Lucem Ferre]

Excluding me meaning you're saying I'm not a bad faith actor? You don't think I'm a nazi anymore or what?

I have to say you don't exactly seem like the bastion of knowledge on the topic you seem to think you are.  You're using peer pressure rather than an actual argument to try to sway people to your side because that's how you were probably convinced as well. 

I don't think you're a Nazi or a bad faith actor. I think you're a troll. Batlord has had way worse 4Chan avatars. He's also a troll.

But Sam Hyde, the Nazi soluting Azov Battalion supporting cunt is absolutely a Nazi.

[Lucem Ferre]

He sounds like he has fuckin stockholm syndrome lol.

LF like I had questions too guys but they roasted me into submission, so i decided to reeducate myself like a pavlovian dog responding to negative stimuli.

I linked actual articles, you moron.

And I also didn't "reeducate" myself because I wasn't educated in the first place which is why I was asking questions.

I did it because I have a little something called empathy and a spine. I don't become a bigot out of spite. You Yakubian snow creature.

[Lucem Ferre]

By who?

Good for you for educating yourself, but be wary of overcompensation. Some people get hurt and want others to experience the same, some people get hurt and want to prevent others from having the same experience.

Personally I'm just over the entire "EdUcAtE yOuRsElF" bitchy attitude surrounding all of identity politics. But I live in a liberal bubble of the softest, most oppressed, most victimized (white) queer people to ever experience hurt feelings, so I am generally irritated by the idea of people feeling entitled to only having positive emotions and never being questioned about anything because of how they ~identify. Not saying that's happened here, just a general gripe.

I'm not a dick to people asking questions in good faith. I'm a dick to people asking questions in bad faith. Because there is an epidemic of hateful and genocidal transphobia. Nothing to do with projection.

[degrassi.knoll]

I'm not a dick to people asking questions in good faith. I'm a dick to people asking questions in bad faith. Because there is an epidemic of hateful and genocidal transphobia. Nothing to do with projection.

But is it not possible that your perception of good/bad faith questions is fallible?

Also you didn't answer my question.

[Lucem Ferre]

No. I haven't been wrong yet. Dude literally outed himself.



Other than elph I don't remember. I remember Marie & WWWP being understanding.

Doesn't matter. It's not the point. Im not holding a vendetta, I understand why they assumed I would be transphobic. I'm white trash from Utah.

[Lucem Ferre]

Fuck I do sound like I have Stockholm syndrome. 

[Jwb]

I don't think you're a Nazi or a bad faith actor. I think you're a troll. Batlord has had way worse 4Chan avatars. He's also a troll.

But Sam Hyde, the Nazi soluting Azov Battalion supporting cunt is absolutely a Nazi.

saying I'm a troll is kind of a cop out answer to me. I'm somebody who does troll, but that doesn't mean everything i say is trolling.

When i made the comment about white men deserve our own NBA that was trolling. But none of the shit i said on that MB thread was trolling.  So if you have a problem with any of that, just understand it was not trolling.  Regardless of what that makes you think of me.

Regarding sam hyde, sure he seems like a nazi but he's a funny nazi.

I linked actual articles, you moron.

And I also didn't "reeducate" myself because I wasn't educated in the first place which is why I was asking questions.

I did it because I have a little something called empathy and a spine. I don't become a bigot out of spite. You Yakubian snow creature.

you want a nobel prize for knowing how to copy and paste a random article you googled?

Your artcle really doesn't even mean much in terms of most of the controversies surrounding the trans issue, which is mostly around stuff like puberty blockers, affirming  care, trans women in sports etc. 

All your article says is they looked at the brains of 72 people, 24 of whom were cis men, 24 cis women and 24 trans women. And in looking at their brain structures and trying to predict sex, they found that trans women's brains were somewhere between cis men and cis women although still closer to cis men.

So assuming this is even something we can extrapolate from 72 individuals to the entire population, what would it meaningfully change about any of the above controversies i mentioned? When you answer that effectively i will give you your nobel prize.

[Lexi Darling]

Gender affirming care should not be a controversy. The only reason it currently is is because conservatives invented a moral panic a couple years ago over something that has been done since the 1950s. Trans people's lives being improved by HRT is not some wild hypothesis.

The brain study is, if nothing else, evidence that there is something different about trans people's brains, something that, if the long and storied history of trans people means anything, has been positively affected by gender affirming care/HRT.

Cis people undergo hormone treatments as well for their health issues and nobody complains about it. It's not about the treatment itself but the moral crusade against gender nonconformity and an effort by the right to de-legitimize trans people.

[degrassi.knoll]

Cis people undergo hormone treatments as well for their health issues and nobody complains about it. It's not about the treatment itself but the moral crusade against gender nonconformity and an effort by the right to de-legitimize trans people.

100%

Every auntie has been using HRT for issues like hormonal acne and menopause since literally forever.

I'd like to see cismen be denied their T and see how morally panicked they become then. See how quickly their lackluster boners inspires a complete overhaul to the healthcare system. Boner pills are more accessible (and exempt from taxes) than tampons. Now in colorful chewable form promo code DUDEBRO.

[degrassi.knoll]

I remember Marie & WWWP being understanding.

Meeting people where they are since 1990 

[degrassi.knoll]

No. I haven't been wrong yet. Dude literally outed himself.

Wait are you referring to this? v

Well I was trying to conceal it but it's mask off now, you're on to my deep rooted Catholicism (typical of a guy born in the Soviet Union and specializing in the fundamentalist Christianity espoused by Michel Foucault)

You're an intelligent guy and I like you but I despise the Nordic brand of well-meaning liberal do-goodery. For instance, if you guys had your way every single Israeli would've been slaughtered by an Islamist mob. If I have any ideological convictions it's that the road to hell if paved with the good intentions of various hommes de bien. 

Calling guys with dicks "women" is an example of insane mental gymnastics but there's cultural conditioning that renders you oblivious to it.

Another thing you don't appreciate is that the medicalization of gender identity in America is an insanely profitable business. 

Because this is so obviously a joke it's embarrassing to see you all self-congratulatory.