The Official "Support Lexi" (and others affected) Thread

[Weekender]

Well let's be clear.  "The things we're worried about" should not be conflated. There's a difference between worrying about losing your healthcare vs talking about people being rounded up into camps and contemplating the necessity to join the "resistance." Which one was I more referring to with my initial post? I think that's clear.

I tried to make it even more clear in my first response to Lexi,  but TH still decided to take the angle that I'm just a white guy who "won't be affected" by these things while people are simultaneously speaking about Trump's 2nd term as if it's the coming of the 4th Reich.  You really can't have it both ways.  It's an utterly incoherent virtue signal on your part. That's what I was poking fun of in that bolded section you cited which you apparently took as a serious question. Similar to me saying what do you want from me? That was just a rhetorical question.

Well, trans people are at a much higher risk of being hurt by the Trump Administration right now. I think the sentiment is correct.

[Jwb]

 

You see, for some reason, jwb, you tend to want to or have to see political motivation in everything. It's really quite simple, and I know you know it is, and are just having fun by being the "batlord" to by thread, but as Sherlock Holmes often said, it won't do. Here's the situation in bullet (sorry) points, as I see it.

Trump coming to power scares and pisses me off, but in the most basic way it won't affect me, unless he declares war on Ireland or something. Yes, the political ramifications of what he does or may do will have an affect on me, but no more than any other Irish or European person.

Lexi is my friend, or I like to think she is anyway. She was and is scared about how these next four years are going to aversely affect her life.

I wanted to support her, but more if possible than with a "there there it'll be all right" post. I wanted to set this up as a practical resource which, in the next year or so, can be used by her and others to perhaps get advice, if anyone has any, or if not, then a place she and others can air their fears and tell their stories (good or bad) and where, if nothing else, she and others can come to get support, know that people care about her, or them.

I didn't set it up to make any political point. It's a simple common human decency thing called compassion.

You can see it as "virute signalling" or even smoke signalling if you want, I don't care. I'm not out to be seen as anything other than someone who is worried about his friends and wants to do any small thing he can to help.

I said I wouldn't be affected (and I've said this already) because of whom I am and where I am. That's not a boast, or an "I'm all right Jack" thing, it's just the truth, and acknowledges that I don't have a clue how she or anyone else feels about this coming term.

Lexi, I put your name on it because you were the one so upset that day, you've been the one who has been the most vocal about your concerns, and I thought it would help. I'm not so au fait with the vulnerabilities of others here, but I did include any others affected, so that it would NOT look like you were being singled out (Poor Lexi, let's help her) so I guess you could see yourself as maybe the poster girl for the thread, but not the only one. If you want your name removed from the thread title I'm happy to do that. I don't want you feeling uncomfortable or being used as anything or to make any point, which was never my intention.

That's it. I'm done explaining. The thread is being pulled off course like a Texan in a pickup chasing the Biden campaign bus. I want to draw a line under it now. If you don't agree with the thread, just don't post in it. Like I said, there are plenty of others to post in, and plenty of other ways you can get on my tits.

Hopefully it won't be as bad as we think it may be, but that doesn't mean people who may be affected don't worry. That's just the reality. So can we leave all the theorising and playing it down until we know what actually does happen? I'd be delighted if it all turned out to be the usual Trump hysteria and hyperbole, but once he has his arse in that chair, who knows what his orders may be? You can say I told you so 100 days into his presidency, if it comes to that. For now, do us all a favour and just drop it. Nobody needs your "it's not so bad" and "it won't happen here" mentality. Nobody can see the future: pray for the best but expect the worst, especially with His Orangeness in the White House.

You helped me derail it. By the time you responded to me,  I had already said to Lexi that I understand her concerns and that maybe I spoke too generally but that I see people catastrophizing to an extent that i find counterproductive.  She seemed to accept that explanation, but you felt slighted by my remarks so you had to get your 2 cents in,  and now here we are. 

And no,  I won't keep it to myself. Next time,  don't respond to me if the goal is to have me not respond back. I don't see how every and any concern is welcome except the one I posted. 

[Trollheart]

That's your problem isnt it? You don't see. It's a SUPPORT thread, not a thread where you decide and debate and argue whether support is needed or not. It's black and white, for once. If you post here, you do so to support the people affected. If you don't support them, or think they don't need support or are being snowflakes, or whatever you think, then don't post. Simple as.

[Jwb]

I get it.  It's a thread for you to be melodramatic,  not a thread for me to point that out or poke fun at it.  But I wanted to anyway.  This is what happens when you have a standard set in place that is sort of just a loose norm based on honor and decency rather than a hard rule that is backed up by force.  I'm sure you can find some useful  parallels there to the situation in Trump's America there.

But either way.  I had 2 cents I wanted to put out there that ultimately derailed  the thread.  I'll accept that.  But you absolutely were my right hand man in doing so. You get the assist whether you want it or not.