Support Thread for Marginalized Groups in the US

[Jwb]

This was the post I thought was a little distasteful.

Ironically the only ones I see playing the victim are two obviously white individuals pulling an "all lives matter" routine.

when did I play the victim? And  if you're honestly so eager to have your marginalized peoples thread without me, it really isn't obvious from the activity in this thread.  Every time I ignore it for a while you expose that this is a pointless thread with no traction other than that which I provide it.  You should be thanking me.

[DJChameleon]

when did I play the victim? And  if you're honestly so eager to have your marginalized peoples thread without me, it really isn't obvious from the activity in this thread.  Every time I ignore it for a while you expose that this is a pointless thread with no traction other than that which I provide it.  You should be thanking me.

Go back to sleep. Quoting a post from a month ago that doesn't even mention you.

[Jwb]

I didn't even realize it was from a month ago when I quoted it,  that's how fuckin dead this thread is.  And he clearly meant me. The fact that your grandma apparently never taught you how to read between the lines isn't my problem.

[DJChameleon]

*yawns* if the thread is so dead then why post in it.

[Jwb]

It was showing new posts. I checked to see out of curiosity. And I saw a post clearly addressing me so I responded. Is the best pushback you have really the "why do you care" angle?

I care because I'm a hateful petty man, and you know this.  Don't do the passive aggressive approach with me,   bro.  You're not good at it.

[DJChameleon]

It was showing new posts. I checked to see out of curiosity. And I saw a post clearly addressing me so I responded. Is the best pushback you have really the "why do you care" angle?

I care because I'm a hateful petty man, and you know this.  Don't do the passive aggressive approach with me,   bro.  You're not good at it.

Yeah I responded with that. If someone doesn't even want to address you directly you think they are gonna respond to you now? When they didn't even want to directly call you out in the first place? Just let the shit go it's old news

[Lexi Darling]

They're coming for same sex marriage. Because of course they were.

My license expires in September, which will now be renewed with an "m" sex marker. Depending on the time frame of this, if Obergefell is overturned, I will not be legally married to my husband anymore due to us both being legally male. I will lose access to my health plan I get through his employer, just in time for my bottom surgery date in October.

Maybe it won't be overturned, but after Roe was and Clarence Thomas made comments about going after gay marriage in the future, I'm not particularly optimistic about this.

Getting married and living out and proud as trans were two of the best things that ever happened to me. And now my happiness and my life are being disrespected, humiliated and taunted by the legal institutions of my country. I'm just so tired.

[Trollheart]

Any word on the Great Escape yet? Australia beckons? Is that a real hope you have, are plans in train?

[Guybrush]

They're coming for same sex marriage. Because of course they were.

My license expires in September, which will now be renewed with an "m" sex marker. Depending on the time frame of this, if Obergefell is overturned, I will not be legally married to my husband anymore due to us both being legally male. I will lose access to my health plan I get through his employer, just in time for my bottom surgery date in October.

Maybe it won't be overturned, but after Roe was and Clarence Thomas made comments about going after gay marriage in the future, I'm not particularly optimistic about this.

Getting married and living out and proud as trans were two of the best things that ever happened to me. And now my happiness and my life are being disrespected, humiliated and taunted by the legal institutions of my country. I'm just so tired.

My heart breaks for you, Lexi 😢

While I understand arguments both for and against, I would strongly consider getting out. In the end, your institutions are working against you. It's not good. You have to find ways to protect yourself and your own happiness. You can still be a voice of reason from outside of the US if you want and move back in the future if things change there or for you.

[Lexi Darling]

Any word on the Great Escape yet? Australia beckons? Is that a real hope you have, are plans in train?

As of right now, leaving the US is our Plan B.

I cancelled the passport appointment I had scheduled on January 30th because all the reports of trans people being denied passports and having their documents confiscated had me terrified. If I were to take the gamble I'd end up with an "M" passport, which, provided nobody cares that my legal name is "Alexandria" at any step of the emigration process, should still allow me to leave the country.

However, my husband has made the decision that at the current point he would rather try to stay in the US, lay low and dedicate the money we would have spent on immigration to instead continue stockpiling HRT. As of right now we are still monitoring the situation and taking into account the timelines; if nothing gets implemented re: nullifying our marriage before late October, there's a good chance I'll still be able to get the surgery while I have easy access to it. It's tough because so much unpredictable shit is happening. If things end up worsening to the point where my life and limb are in the direct path of harm, the plans will be adjusted. I will keep you all updated.

Thank you both as always for looking out. <3

[Trollheart]

Trans people are being denied passports? Oh dear god. On what basis? That their "details" don't match? This has horrifying parallels to the efforts of Jews to get out of Germany just before the whole Final Solution thing kicked in. My heart also breaks for you, and all like you. Please look after yourselves. At least you have the support of your husband; this must be a darkly terrifying time for those facing this alone. I hope the fires of Hell are stoked nice and hot for Trump when he eventually rolls snake eyes and has to cash in his contract. They won't be hot enough.

[degrassiknoll]

I don't know how helpful drawing the Final Solution parallels are, to be honest. This is where the hyperbole becomes reductive, from an American perspective. 

[Trollheart]

I take your point, Steph: probably a bad choice of words. It's pretty damn scary though, because hyperbole or not, what the hell are they doing? If people want to leave the country then they should be able to. To be perfectly callous about it, if they don't want "those people" in the USA, why are they making it so hard for them to leave? Surely they'd be facilitating such an exit?

Kind of academic in Lexi's case, as she and her hubby have made the decision to stay for now, but even so, it rings a chilling bell that recalls the past. I don't understand the logic. I know why it happened originally, given the plan they had, but why stop them leaving now?

[degrassiknoll]

Why would they want to lose that much production power? Wanted or not, they still depend on our labor.

[Jwb]

.... merged posts.