Trump Redux: The Death of Democracy is now a Horrifying Reality

[SGR]

Does anyone seriously doubt the possibilty of slavery returning? If black people and minorities can't get jobs as the Trump administration closes off avenues, and assuming there's no "black/trans/insert minority or oppressed group as appropriate holocaust", then surely those people are going to have to take whatever they can get, leading to the old white master/black servant class that was prevalent in the 19th century and before? I mean, it may not officially be slavery, but won't it be so in everything but name?

 

I seriously doubt it. I think minorities will still be able to get jobs without government-sanctioned DEI policies - call me crazy, but I think the majority of them probably get hired because of their ability and competency (and not their skin color or their minority identity) - and no, their bosses won't own them as property.

[degrassiknoll]

Bruh

[jimmy jazz]

Oh good heavens.

[Trollheart]

[Lucem Ferre]

I seriously doubt it. I think minorities will still be able to get jobs without government-sanctioned DEI policies - call me crazy, but I think the majority of them probably get hired because of their ability and competency (and not their skin color or their minority identity) - and no, their bosses won't own them as property.

I think the fact that DEI isn't actually diverse, with the majority of the benefactors being white women, shows how racial and gender discrimination has always dominated over merit based hiring techniques and the abolition of them is going to hurt minorities.

I read a book that explained how the algorithm for computing jobs uses arbitrary techniques that favor men over women when looking for candidates such as, and I'm not kidding, seeing if the candidate is active on anime forums.

[Lucem Ferre]

Does anyone seriously doubt the possibilty of slavery returning? If black people and minorities can't get jobs as the Trump administration closes off avenues, and assuming there's no "black/trans/insert minority or oppressed group as appropriate holocaust", then surely those people are going to have to take whatever they can get, leading to the old white master/black servant class that was prevalent in the 19th century and before? I mean, it may not officially be slavery, but won't it be so in everything but name?

You should read 'Caste' that already exists in prison labor. Our criminal justice system also creates a permanent class of workers forced to do "low skill" labor because the felony status excludes you from many jobs as well as revoking your right to vote or own guns.

Our criminal justice system is also proven to target minorities with black people being given harsher sentences as well as being 7X more likely to be falsely accused of a crime.

On top of that our immigration system is designed in a way to create a permanent caste of illegal people that are forced to do work below legal wages with far less regulations to protect them. That's why the whole liberal "who's going to pick the tomatoes?" talking point feels so gross to me.

At face value, it's easy to laugh at what you're saying but if you pay attention you realize it's actually not that far from the truth as is and a very valid thing to be weary of.

[Jwb]

Does anyone seriously doubt the possibilty of slavery returning? If black people and minorities can't get jobs as the Trump administration closes off avenues, and assuming there's no "black/trans/insert minority or oppressed group as appropriate holocaust", then surely those people are going to have to take whatever they can get, leading to the old white master/black servant class that was prevalent in the 19th century and before? I mean, it may not officially be slavery, but won't it be so in everything but name?

If that does happen,  I feel like it's only right that we pitch in together as a forum to buy DJ. Let's make the pledge today guys

[DJChameleon]

If that does happen,  I feel like it's only right that we pitch in together as a forum to buy DJ. Let's make the pledge today guys

Bad return on investment because you'll either end up dead or I'm running away. Choose wisely.

[DJChameleon]

I seriously doubt it. I think minorities will still be able to get jobs without government-sanctioned DEI policies - call me crazy, but I think the majority of them probably get hired because of their ability and competency (and not their skin color or their minority identity) - and no, their bosses won't own them as property.

That's bullshit and disingenuous. The whole meritocracy and railing against DEI is just a dogwhistle and basically a call for only hiring more white people. Minorities will get overlooked regardless of their qualifications for mediocre white males.

[Trollheart]

Well look, sure, laugh all you want, and you're probably right to, but I was thinking about it this morning. Sure, federal power only extends so far, but what about the red states? If governors start saying things like "only straight white people should be teaching our kids" then they might stop hiring other than white teachers, and fire the ones that are working. After that, surely it's a dark trickle-down to the point where they say "we don't trust [insert minority here] to be serving our kids burgers." If they slowly chip away at all the jobs these people can do, where will they turn? Sure, actual slavery in itself is more than unlikely, but as I said, in everything but name you could have blacks/Latinos/gay/trans etc people being forced to take the shittiest jobs regardless of qualifications. And what then if they're refused admittance to college or even schools? The English tried to do it with us in the 17th century folks, and we ended up with the Great Famine and all but a slave class.

[jimmy jazz]

Apparently once slavery has returned, Trump is then going to sentence everyone who didn't vote for him to death and then invade Canada.

[Lucem Ferre]

Trump is going to build a time machine so he can time travel to 2001 and take out the twin towers.

He's going to did 9/11.

[degrassiknoll]

Minorities will get overlooked regardless of their qualifications for mediocre white males.

Obviously you're right but I mean, has this ever really not happened?

[DJChameleon]

Obviously you're right but I mean, has this ever really not happened?

I feel like with some places having DEI initiatives at least they were working on that issue to be slightly better about it than they have in the past.

[degrassiknoll]

I feel like with some places having DEI initiatives at least they were working on that issue to be slightly better about it than they have in the past.

Right but they just hire mediocre white women