Trump Redux: The Death of Democracy, or Overblown Hyperbole?

[Trollheart]

I like that Biden was able to pardon in advance all or most of the people Trump is going to go after, like Fauci and Milley. I bet the bastard is fuming, but there's nothing he can do. Unless he tries to draft legislation to allow a sitting president to overturn the pardons of other presidents, and then where will he be when his term comes to an end? Go Joe! A final fuck-you to the incoming POTUS! Makes up for the cunt not having the decency to show you around the White House when he was kicked out by the voters.

On another note, can someone explain to me how Trump is going to reverse the trend on electric cars, when his bestest buddy in the whole goshdarned wide world runs an empire based on the sale of expensive electric cars?? Elon no like.

[Psy-Fi]

Presidential pardons only cover Federal crimes, not state crimes. So if any of them committed crimes at the state level, they can still be charged and prosecuted and, if found guilty, sentenced.

Preemptive pardons, when no charges have even been put forth, just make the recipient look shady as hell in my opinion.

[Trollheart]

Not really. When Trump is basically waiting down a dark alley with a baseball bat, has effectively sent threatening letters, I think Biden's response was the right one: get their protection in before Trump tries to bring the hammer down. If someone called to your house showing a gun on their hip and said "I'll be back later" and someone in power offered to help you, would you not think it right that they did? I know that's really watering down the situation, but the general precepts fit: if your friends or allies are threatened with retribution and you're in a position to help, why would you not? Who cares about the optics, especially if you're leaving office?

You want to talk about shady pardons?

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2025/0121/1491950-us-politics/

[Buck_Mulligan]

I like that Biden was able to pardon in advance all or most of the people Trump is going to go after, like Fauci and Milley. I bet the bastard is fuming, but there's nothing he can do. Unless he tries to draft legislation to allow a sitting president to overturn the pardons of other presidents, and then where will he be when his term comes to an end? Go Joe! A final fuck-you to the incoming POTUS! Makes up for the cunt not having the decency to show you around the White House when he was kicked out by the voters.

On another note, can someone explain to me how Trump is going to reverse the trend on electric cars, when his bestest buddy in the whole goshdarned wide world runs an empire based on the sale of expensive electric cars?? Elon no like.

Elon has been advocating for the removal of EV subsidies in the US, and doing the opposite in other countries. Reason? On a per vehicle .
basis Tesla is much more profitable in the US than any other manufacturer. Take the $7,500 subsidy away and Tesla still makes a profit while everyone else is incurring losses

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-vs-Toyota-BYD-VW-and-Ford-profit-margins-get-visualized-as-GM-trails-it-four-to-one.691126.0.html

[Lucem Ferre]

Every clip I see of Baron Trump at the inauguration he looks like Draco Malfoy after he's forced to be a death eater.

[SGR]

Every clip I see of Baron Trump at the inauguration he looks like Draco Malfoy after he's forced to be a death eater.

I see it.

[Psy-Fi]

You want to talk about shady pardons?

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2025/0121/1491950-us-politics/

NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FUCKIN GUNS!!!

[Trollheart]

Every clip I see of Baron Trump at the inauguration he looks like Draco Malfoy after he's forced to be a death eater.

I understand no part of this sentence.
And it's Emperor Trump, if you don't mind. A piffling baron indeed! (The Orange Baron?)

[Trollheart]

After barely two days in office, then, what has El Trumpo been up to?

• Begun destroying the rights of children born in America to immigrant parents, smashing the DREAMERS act
• Withdrawn America from the Paris Climate Accords (how surprising!)
• Pardoned or commuted the sentences of almost every January 6 rioter
• Begun gathering evidence of "politically motivated" (read, anything that he feels targeted him) acts by those previously in power, obviously just for posterity or his memoirs I'm sure 
• Declared a state of national emergency at the Mexican border
• Rolled back environmental protections on natural habitats (mostly Alaska) to allow for drilling and exploration
• Begun to reduce/eliminate subsidies for electric vehicles, moving America backwards compared to the rest of the world as it re-embraces fossil fuels
• Ordered all federal employees working from home to report to their offices or be fired
• Declared America will only recognise two genders, male and female, legislation to follow which will marginalise further and very much harm the LGBTQi community
• Withdrawn America from WHO, the World Health Organisation
• Will no doubt claim credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal
• Defied Biden's ban on Tik-Tok, no doubt expecting to profit from it
• Implemented a federal hiring and regulation freeze
• Rolled back safeguards against misinformation/disinformation and fake news, in a thinly-veiled disguise at "restoring the right of free speech"

[Psy-Fi]

Trump creates DOGE with an executive order. It says the unit's purpose is upgrading IT.

[Trollheart]

News Alert: Flights canceled for refugees who were slated to travel to US


Refugees who were slated to travel to the United States after a years-long and often cumbersome process have had their flights canceled, according to a State Department memo to resettlement partners obtained by CNN.

The memo comes on the heels of President Donald Trump's executive order suspending refugee admissions and marks another example of the swift impact his actions are already having. The move stands to affect thousands of refugees who had flights already scheduled.

[DJChameleon]

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/what-is-equal-employment-opportunity-act-of-1965-and-why-did-trump-revoke-it-article-117466400

President Donald Trump revoked the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1965 via executive order on January 20, rolling back decades-old provisions that banned discrimination and instituted affirmative action in the federal workplace. The act was signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson on September 24, 1965, to give opportunity to and protect women, ethnic minorities, and other underrepresented groups.

It took Hitler 53 days to dismantle Germany.

Trump is definitely speed running his efforts to ruin America.

[degrassiknoll]

Do yall not remember 2016? How is this not par for the course?

The hyperbole is definitely in the room with us.

[Trollheart]

I couldn't say, but it seems to me that this is different. Trump is prepared now; he's been here, done that, and he knows what mistakes he made, principle among which was having people in power he couldn't trust and/or manipulate. This time around, he's made sure to staff all his agencies with yes-men and gone further with the forced retirement/firing/sidelining of any of what he calls DEI appointees, which must surely mean that he's aiming for a totally white, straight, male workforce? I honestly don't know how anyone over there can't be scared at the speed this is happening - I know I am.

[DJChameleon]

Except you are acting like it's not different this time around with a detailed plan from a think tank. This term is going to be way worse than the first time around but go ahead and stick your head in the sand.

All the people that voted for Trump are now in the Find Out stage of FAFO especially the increased Latino voters that's getting their abulita shipped away.