Support Thread for Marginalized Groups in the US

[Jwb]

I take your point, Steph: probably a bad choice of words. It's pretty damn scary though, because hyperbole or not, what the hell are they doing? If people want to leave the country then they should be able to. To be perfectly callous about it, if they don't want "those people" in the USA, why are they making it so hard for them to leave? Surely they'd be facilitating such an exit?

Kind of academic in Lexi's case, as she and her hubby have made the decision to stay for now, but even so, it rings a chilling bell that recalls the past. I don't understand the logic. I know why it happened originally, given the plan they had, but why stop them leaving now?

from what I'm reading,  it has to do with not wanting to put the "correct sex designation" on passports and other documents.  So the seeming motive for a move like that is similar to the motive for banning them from the military, bathrooms,  sports, whatever.  They want to reverse the clock on trans people being normalized. It doesn't seem to be about keeping people in the country.  They will issue you a passport, just one with the wrong gender, from what I am reading.  It's just about making their lives more difficult, it seems.

Yeah I responded with that. If someone doesn't even want to address you directly you think they are gonna respond to you now? When they didn't even want to directly call you out in the first place? Just let the shit go it's old news

Well tbh I don't post with the expectation that he must respond.  That's up to him.  I responded for the same reason you're wasting your time lecturing me about how I shouldn't have responded to a post that I already responded to.  Because I refuse to keep my unproductive thoughts to myself,  just like you pal.

[Lexi Darling]

Yeah, the passport thing seems mostly to fuck with us and cause confusion and humiliation, but I think it's very likely that bad actors across the country will use the "birth sex" on our IDs and passports to justify forcing us into the opposite gender's spaces and enforce any drag bans under state laws. While I also think the Final Solution comparison is unwarranted as of right now and I think it's very very unlikely we'll get to that point, we're only one month into this regime; this stuff can easily be a springboard to worse stuff, and since the EO and its resultant policies aren't being meaningfully challenged at the moment I wouldn't get complacent. But yes, it's important to stay grounded.

Another related thing is the SAVE act that was recently introduced, which, if it passes, will prevent anyone who has legally changed their name to something that doesn't match their birth certificate or passport from voting. So anyone, trans or otherwise, will have to spend a couple hundred bucks on a passport with the right name but wrong gender, just to vote. So many trans people are destitute and barely scraping by, not to mention the millions of lower income married women. I'm fully expecting many people to not even pay attention to that if it passes and get turned away at the polls.

They're fucking with us all, because we're ants and they're sadistic third graders with magnifying glasses on a summer day.

[Lucem Ferre]

I care because I'm a hateful petty man, and you know this.

 

[jimmy jazz]

I lol'd as well.

[Trollheart]

Yeah, the passport thing seems mostly to fuck with us and cause confusion and humiliation, but I think it's very likely that bad actors across the country will use the "birth sex" on our IDs and passports to justify forcing us into the opposite gender's spaces and enforce any drag bans under state laws. While I also think the Final Solution comparison is unwarranted as of right now and I think it's very very unlikely we'll get to that point, we're only one month into this regime; this stuff can easily be a springboard to worse stuff, and since the EO and its resultant policies aren't being meaningfully challenged at the moment I wouldn't get complacent. But yes, it's important to stay grounded.

Another related thing is the SAVE act that was recently introduced, which, if it passes, will prevent anyone who has legally changed their name to something that doesn't match their birth certificate or passport from voting. So anyone, trans or otherwise, will have to spend a couple hundred bucks on a passport with the right name but wrong gender, just to vote. So many trans people are destitute and barely scraping by, not to mention the millions of lower income married women. I'm fully expecting many people to not even pay attention to that if it passes and get turned away at the polls.

They're fucking with us all, because we're ants and they're sadistic third graders with magnifying glasses on a summer day.

Yeah well they should remember there are millions or billions of ants in the world, and once they get into your clothing, food, house or bedding they're damned hard to get rid of. Also, magnifying glass can be turned on the user.

[Lexi Darling]

As per my post in the LGBT thread, I'm taking a leave of absence from political and current event discussion. My mind has been getting easily overloaded when I engage with articles and discussions on those topics and it's really taking a toll on my mood, even IRL. I'm more irritable and on-edge and it's affecting the other people in my life. I'm going to try to get more zen for a while. I've used a blocking script to hide the political subforum so I don't make a mistake like the one I made earlier today. Especially on the topic of trans stuff I've felt obligated to engage in those discussions and debates for years because I want to push back against misinformation and disingenuous rhetoric and not let it go unchallenged. But it's worn me down over the past 3 years and it's tearing my head apart trying to keep up with all of it. I'm trying to discipline myself to just put it out of sight and out of mind. At this point I'm sure everyone here knows my stances on things anyway. Just letting everyone know where I'm at right now.

[Trollheart]

Absolutely right. Nobody could say you have buried your head or not stood up for what you believe to be right (and what is objectively right). I feel the same, in a way, about my Trump journal. It's just, well, depressing, and that's only a distant reaction from me. I can't even imagine how it's affecting you. So you're doing the right thing. Step back, leave the chaos behind. Think about fluffy kittens and rainbows for a while, and a world without Trump and MAGA.