Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 12, 2023, 04:39 AMAgreed. It also always makes me wonder what direction they would have gone in the 80s.

yeah they all have interesting solo stuff that never seems to actualize its potential

if you've never listened to it i bet you'd like the death wish 2 ost by jimmy page

but one of the all time lost gems is page and plant's no quarter - i like it more than some zep albums and walking into clarksdale is underrated


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 12, 2023, 07:34 AMyeah they all have interesting solo stuff that never seems to actualize its potential

if you've never listened to it i bet you'd like the death wish 2 ost by jimmy page

but one of the all time lost gems is page and plant's no quarter - i like it more than some zep albums and walking into clarksdale is underrated

Thanks for the recs! I've never heard that soundtrack but I have heard and love his soundtrack for Lucifer Rising.

"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 12, 2023, 01:21 PMThanks for the recs! I've never heard that soundtrack but I have heard and love his soundtrack for Lucifer Rising.

i've never heard LR or even heard of it and reading about it and the history of the soundtrack it definitely feels like it was a serious knowledge gap so thank you, sister

i'll let you know when i get around to listening to it


Quote from: SGR on May 12, 2023, 02:27 AMI do not like, and have never liked Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody". One of the goofiest songs I've ever heard, despite liking other Queen songs and thinking that Mercury is a great frontman, I just don't get it. 

Galileo, Galileo! Mama mia, Mama mia!

Yep, I think it would've been better with some better lyrics, but that goes for most of Queen's material, doesn't it? I want to ride my bicycle being an example of real cr*p lyrics imo.
When Bohemian Rhapsody came out it was famous for its video, which was pioneering in its sophistication. I like the rocking guitar sections of Boho R, but the borrowing of some dramatic tricks from the world of classical music puts me in mind of this Barry Ryan song from seven years earlier :-



To get lost is to learn the way.

Barry Ryan didn't do much on the US charts but I have to admit Eloise is something of a guilty pleasure.

The Word has spoken :D

This shouldn't even be controversial but GNR are worthless. Cinderella, Ratt, and Motley Crue are all much more original, entertaining, talented, and just way better. GNR are down there with Mars Volta and the only good LZ rip off is the white stripes.


I hear a lot more Aerosmith in GNR than Led Zeppelin honestly. Maybe Axl's voice is more similar to Plant's but GNR always had that more sleazy, down and dirty vibe than any vibe I would associate with Zep.

I do think Motley Crue were the best of the big hair metal bands and Ratt are also hella underrated. Appetite is a great record but GNR's legacy isn't quite deserved IMO.



"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 17, 2023, 02:25 PMI hear a lot more Aerosmith in GNR than Led Zeppelin honestly. Maybe Axl's voice is more similar to Plant's but GNR always had that more sleazy, down and dirty vibe than any vibe I would associate with Zep.

I do think Motley Crue were the best of the big hair metal bands and Ratt are also hella underrated. Appetite is a great record but GNR's legacy isn't quite deserved IMO.



those are good points

i get what you're saying in terms of the sleazy sound but in practice you can't outsleaze zep


#128 May 17, 2023, 04:06 PM Last Edit: May 17, 2023, 04:10 PM by SGR
I don't think any of those 3 bands are as great as GNR (Crue comes closest), but I'd like the list better if Ratt was replaced with W.A.S.P.





Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 17, 2023, 02:08 PMThis shouldn't even be controversial but GNR are worthless. Cinderella, Ratt, and Motley Crue are all much more original, entertaining, talented, and just way better. GNR are down there with Mars Volta and the only good LZ rip off is the white stripes.

Appetite for Destruction is better than all of that shit though so it doesn't matter.

Only God knows.

the idea that afd is anywhere even close to the cars debut is ridiculous

new maybe hot take: the melvins kind of suck


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 02:50 AMthe idea that afd is anywhere even close to the cars debut is ridiculous

Woah, woah - that wasn't what the conversation was...

But now that it is - AfD is kinda close to it. After all, Rolling Stone rated AfD higher.  :laughing:

Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 24, 2023, 02:50 AMnew maybe hot take: the melvins kind of suck

Have to say...I kinda agree. Not sure what the consensus is on them around here. I'm happy that they helped influence better bands though.


I love the Melvins' straight ahead sludgerock but they do have a lot of half-baked experimental stuff that I'm not so keen on.

Here's a possibly controversial take: Eminem always sucked. And I was there, I saw 8 Mile in theaters, I had a number of his songs where I completely memorized every lyric. But then I turned 18, I searched my feelings and I know it to be true: Eminem always sucked.

"stressed" is just "desserts" spelled backwards

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 03:35 AMI love the Melvins' straight ahead sludgerock but they do have a lot of half-baked experimental stuff that I'm not so keen on.

That's probably more fair. They've got some good stuff. But they've got just as much crap. They're a bit too hit or miss for me.

Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 24, 2023, 03:35 AMHere's a possibly controversial take: Eminem always sucked. And I was there, I saw 8 Mile in theaters, I had a number of his songs where I completely memorized every lyric. But then I turned 18, I searched my feelings and I know it to be true: Eminem always sucked.

Gonna have to disagree with this one. I hate seeing people put him near the top of a 'best rappers' list as much as the next rap fan (because he has no business there), but he had a wide cultural influence. He was also largely responsible for bringing rap music to suburban white kids (following in the footsteps of the Beastie Boys before him). My dad absolutely hates rap music - and yet, I still remember him playing a compilation CD when he used to drive me to school back in 2002 and what song would he put on? Eminem's "Without Me". I still won't let him forget that he introduced me to rap (just to annoy him).

I would agree with either of the following:

  • Eminem sucked after his third record
  • Eminem would've sucked if he never partnered with Dr. Dre