It's official!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/politics/donald-trump-indictment/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-new-york-indictment-election-027d0e5ac1881a4c55c6379deae75faa
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Any guesses as to what happens next?
Crud, I bet a friend 50 bucks that this wouldn't happen before the next election.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Mar 31, 2023, 01:00 AMCrud, I bet a friend 50 bucks that this wouldn't happen before the next election.
Never bet on sports or politics
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the hush money thing
god this country is like a bad residents album
it almost seems intentional to make it about something nobody cares about or at least nobody should care about
yes i hate trump but this seems so stupid
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Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 01:15 AMthe hush money thing
god this country is like a bad residents album
it almost seems intentional to make it about something nobody cares about or at least nobody should care about
yes i hate trump but this seems so stupid
What do you think will happen now? Will there be trouble on the streets over this do you think?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:20 AMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 01:15 AMthe hush money thing
god this country is like a bad residents album
it almost seems intentional to make it about something nobody cares about or at least nobody should care about
yes i hate trump but this seems so stupid
What do you think will happen now? Will there be trouble on the streets over this do you think?
i have no idea
He said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
yeah i think so but you know people are unpredictable
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
I think he said 'protest', not 'fight'. If there's violence from Trump supporters, it'll just make Trump look worse.
Orange Man is going into the Orange Can.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 02:13 AMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
I think he said 'protest', not 'fight'. If there's violence from Trump supporters, it'll just make Trump look worse.
to whom though
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 02:43 AMQuote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 02:13 AMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
I think he said 'protest', not 'fight'. If there's violence from Trump supporters, it'll just make Trump look worse.
to whom though
To whom did he say it? His supporters, I'd presume.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 03:55 AMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 02:43 AMQuote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 02:13 AMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
I think he said 'protest', not 'fight'. If there's violence from Trump supporters, it'll just make Trump look worse.
to whom though
To whom did he say it? His supporters, I'd presume.
i don't think inciting violence makes him look worse to many of his supporters and it actually might illicit more loyal support
i don't think his base turned against him at all of jan 6
and can he look worse to those who already hate what he is?
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 04:24 AMQuote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 03:55 AMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 02:43 AMQuote from: SGR on Mar 31, 2023, 02:13 AMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 01:40 AMHe said something like go out and fight didn't he? When he originally predicted he'd be arrested the other Tuesday.
I think he said 'protest', not 'fight'. If there's violence from Trump supporters, it'll just make Trump look worse.
to whom though
To whom did he say it? His supporters, I'd presume.
i don't think inciting violence makes him look worse to many of his supporters and it actually might illicit more loyal support
i don't think his base turned against him at all of jan 6
and can he look worse to those who already hate what he is?
Oh, you meant 'to whom would it make Trump look worse?' - my bad. My thought was that violence from Trump supporters would give the media all kinds of additional ammunition to rail against him, which would fire up Democrats to get out and vote against him, and would push any centrists on the fence after Biden's mediocre performance to either sit the elction out or vote for whoever the (D) candidate is, rather than vote for him.
What does indictment mean for Trump? Can he still run for president in 2024? (https://abc7news.com/what-does-indictment-mean-for-trump-live-updates-stormy-daniels-manhattan-grand-jury/13053020/)QuoteNeither the indictment itself nor a conviction would prevent Trump from running for or winning the presidency in 2024
Imagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 12:34 PMImagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
That would be unprecedented.
Or would that be "unpresidented?" ;)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Mar 31, 2023, 12:57 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 12:34 PMImagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
That would be unprecedented.
Or would that be "unpresidented?" ;)
;)
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 12:34 PMImagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
it's not going to affect his chances at reelection
Of all the things he's done, it seems weird he'd get indicted for this one. Whatever. I applaud the attempt, though from the outside, Trump does seem to be above US law.
More water on the goose? It'll probably slide right off, but here's to hoping it sticks
:beer:
I think they'll find a technicality to avoid a riot. The American people are their own worst enemy.
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 01:49 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 12:34 PMImagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
it's not going to affect his chances at reelection
I feel like if anything his base will be fired up even more.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Mar 31, 2023, 09:38 PMQuote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 31, 2023, 01:49 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 31, 2023, 12:34 PMImagine if he did win in 2024 after this.
it's not going to affect his chances at reelection
I feel like if anything his base will be fired up even more.
me too
i also think there's validity in that it's a vindictive move
there's no wood behind this arrow
i'm not being an apologist i just wish it was one of his real crimes
but maybe it'll open the door to that
on this if trump says i'm guilty so what they're lame for prosecuting me for this i'd agree with him
I wonder what the play is if it is politically motivated - if the D's don't think they can really truly lock Trump up (or stick him with anything other than a fine), what's the motivation?
The only other thing I could think is that it would either get Trump supporters to be violent - turning off independent voters from Trump - or try to open a wound and hope other Republicans running in the primaries would smell blood in the water and pounce on him - that doesn't seem to be happening - not yet at least.
QuoteI wonder what the play is if it is politically motivated
it's not political; it's personal
i hate him, too
we all do
maybe i'm wrong but i just think it's another thing where the left is playing checkers and the right is playing chess
Wouldn't it be funny if Trump became cell mates with Michael Avenatti?
Side note, but I'm kinda disappointed the Jeffrey Epstein / Ghislaine Maxwell cases haven't led to more arrests. Wasn't she supposed to have a bunch of sex tapes showing to he rich and powerful be banging Epstein's human trafficking victims or something?
Edit:
She supposedly was, featuring people like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 01, 2023, 01:40 AMSide note, but I'm kinda disappointed the Jeffrey Epstein / Ghislaine Maxwell cases haven't led to more arrests. Wasn't she supposed to have a bunch of sex tapes showing to he rich and powerful be banging Epstein's human trafficking victims or something?
Edit:
She supposedly was, featuring people like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.
From what I remember reading, the FBI/police (whoever arrested him) confiscated all of his disks that supposedly contained this stuff. So where are they now?
He definitely got whacked. It's just another case of the rich and powerful looking out for the rich and powerful. I had some kind of naive optimism when he initially got arrested - but after he 'killed himself' in prison, I pretty much realized nothing was going to happen and it was going to be business as usual.
If Ghislaine has information that could implicate certain people in this stuff - I'm sure she saw what happened to Epstein - and she knows that if she spilled dirt, she'd be lined up for an unfortunate 'suicide' with camera malfunctions and sleeping guards too.
QuoteHe definitely got whacked.
that was nice of them to give him one last handy before killing the guy although i doubt he enjoyed it unless they were also using non-union child labor
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 01, 2023, 01:40 AMSide note, but I'm kinda disappointed the Jeffrey Epstein / Ghislaine Maxwell cases haven't led to more arrests. Wasn't she supposed to have a bunch of sex tapes showing to he rich and powerful be banging Epstein's human trafficking victims or something?
Edit:
She supposedly was, featuring people like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.
I find it staggering that the public isn't outraged by this. We all know something is going on and yet we accept it. Sad!
At least we got to see Prince Andrew claim, on a TV interview, that it couldn't be him in a picture with a minor he banged because the guy in the pic (who looked exactly like Andrew) had sweat stains. And of course Prince Andrew wasn't physically able to sweat after the Falklands war.
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That interview was mind blowing. Every excuse he gave was more ridiculous and 'the dog ate my homework' than the last. Shows how out of touch they are that he thought it was a good idea and nobody around him stopped him.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 01, 2023, 12:24 AMI wonder what the play is if it is politically motivated - if the D's don't think they can really truly lock Trump up (or stick him with anything other than a fine), what's the motivation?
The only other thing I could think is that it would either get Trump supporters to be violent - turning off independent voters from Trump - or try to open a wound and hope other Republicans running in the primaries would smell blood in the water and pounce on him - that doesn't seem to be happening - not yet at least.
They just want any reason to take him down. This was apparently the best case they could come up with. Feels like when they took down Capone for tax evasion.
The Al Capone comparison was the first thing that came to my mind when I heard about the indictment.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 04, 2023, 01:42 PMThe Al Capone comparison was the first thing that came to my mind when I heard about the indictment.
me three
Democrats and Republicans waking up this morning:
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Anyone surprised at the lack of protesters/ insurrectionists so far?
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 04, 2023, 05:12 PMAnyone surprised at the lack of protesters/ insurrectionists so far?
Give the feds a little time
Unfortunately, this is gonna get a lot of those independents and Republicans who didn't vote in 2016 and 2020 out of the woodwork to vote in 2024. It's gonna be like what the midterms was for Democrats....except this time the turnout will be the right leaning people.
Yeah I fear that too. Trump, Crybaby Extraordinaire, will use every trick short of appearing at the arraignment on a cross to compare himself to Jesus and tell his followers this is a witchhunt, even though that's totally mixing metaphors. Most of his supporters probably wouldn't know what a meta was phor anyway. Isn't that what Facebook was called?
But seriously, I see this backfiring and giving (sorry) Trump a bump on his attempt to take the White House again. I feel this is going to turn out to be a really bad miscalculation, and will do more harm to Democrats (and America) than good.
Anybody think he's going to serve any time?
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 05, 2023, 04:02 AMAnybody think he's going to serve any time?
not for this but georgia is going after him for election fraud
still doubt he'll do time but he might
secret service would accompany him in prison if you can believe that
I'm asking not so much with his safety in mind. I'm sorta enchanted at the idea of watching a presidential race from the state pen, though.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 05, 2023, 04:24 AMI'm asking not so much with his safety in mind. I'm sorta enchanted at the idea of watching a presidential race from the state pen, though.
that would be wild
I mean it would be like the only thing that could possibly match the surreal and chaotic vibe of his rise to power in 2016. Back when i supported him i mean.
If he won the Presidency while in prison/jail, would they have to let him out? Or would cabinet meetings need to happen in the pen? :laughing:
Can he just pardon himself like he did for kodack Black?
I kinda prefer the idea of him running the country from inside prison.
Quote from: Jwb on Apr 05, 2023, 05:39 AMCan he just pardon himself like he did for kodack Black?
I kinda prefer the idea of him running the country from inside prison.
:laughing:
I think technically he could if he was the President. Given it would be his second term, I guess all he'd have to lose is public favor, and I suppose most independents would probably forgive him if that was the only reasonable way for the President to get out of a prison cell and back to the White House.
But man - the President governing from prison would be comedy gold.
"All right! Lights out! You too, Mister President. What? No, sir, I don't believe the Chinese premier visited today. And what's that? No, sir, we have indeed strict instructions not to allow Mr. Pence in. Sorry, sir: no word back yet on whether the governor will let them build you a private golf course. Yes, sir. Goodnight sir. And Goodnight, Big Black Hatchet Murder Guy! Don't snore and keep the President awake, all right? See you guys in the morning now."
Coming up: President Trump faces his worst nightmare - EXERCISE IN THE YARD! And this time, it's mandatory! :laughing:
Pornhub sees hard rise in Stormy Daniels searches after Trump arrest (https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/pornhub-searches-for-stormy-daniels-soar-after-trump-arrest/) :pimp:
Hard rise? I bet it does! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
trump is so above the law, he gets arrested for the tv press coverage on him
Trump is on Indictment number 4 now.
Here is a nice wrap up of it all.
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