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Title: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 02:22 AM
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Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: jimmy jazz on Mar 07, 2023, 03:18 AM
Not sure what I'm supposed to respond with.
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 03:38 AM
it's been programmed to keep black iqs secret but not white iqs

iq may or may not be a legitimate way to measure intelligence

making generalizations based on iq may or may not be appropriate

i didn't ask that

i asked for numbers and it gave me a dodge for blacks

interesting that it's already more concerned with how information might be interpreted rather than just giving facts



Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: jimmy jazz on Mar 07, 2023, 03:48 AM
I got all that, just not sure what I'm supposed to say.

The bot/person who programmed it is racist I guess.
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 04:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 07, 2023, 03:48 AMI got all that, just not sure what I'm supposed to say.

The bot/person who programmed it is racist I guess.


i don't even know if that's a fair extrapolation

but it reminds me of the "stop buying masks" thing from the other thread - accurate information is a secondary concern

that creates a trust problem

trust problems erode institutions

i'm sure black iq was flagged as dangerous information
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Janszoon on Mar 07, 2023, 04:14 AM
Hey look, another racist thread. Does anyone else think the frequent racist content being posted here is bad a thing?
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 04:57 AM
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 07, 2023, 04:14 AMHey look, another racist thread. Does anyone else think the frequent racist content being posted here is bad a thing?


what's next janz

your claim that you're not trying to dictate what can be discussed here

typical liberal m.o. :


call it racist
imply it shouldn't be discussed

it's not racist - it's the exact answers that i got - that's just a fact -


Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:12 AM
That's quite odd.  Does it respond similarly to queries about Asians and Hispanics?
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 05:17 AM
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:12 AMThat's quite odd.  Does it respond similarly to queries about Asians and Hispanics?


i didn't ask about other groups of americans but it will not give the average iq for chad or nigeria but japan is 106 and norway is is 107
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 05:18 AM
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:12 AMThat's quite odd.  Does it respond similarly to queries about Asians and Hispanics?

and be honest do you really think it's odd or surprising in any way?
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:37 AM
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 07, 2023, 05:18 AM
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:12 AMThat's quite odd.  Does it respond similarly to queries about Asians and Hispanics?

and be honest do you really think it's odd or surprising in any way?

When you put it that way...yeah it isn't all that surprising. If the POTUS can blatantly lie to black people about who invented the lightbulb and not get challenged, it doesn't surprise me that an AI nurtured by "woke" programmers wouldn't have some kinks to work out when it comes to challenging questions.
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Lexi Darling on Mar 07, 2023, 05:44 AM
i think robits are scary and i do not like them
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 05:55 AM
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:37 AM
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 07, 2023, 05:18 AM
Quote from: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 05:12 AMThat's quite odd.  Does it respond similarly to queries about Asians and Hispanics?

and be honest do you really think it's odd or surprising in any way?

When you put it that way...yeah it isn't all that surprising. If the POTUS can blatantly lie to black people about who invented the lightbulb and not get challenged, it doesn't surprise me that an AI nurtured by "woke" programmers wouldn't have some kinks to work out when it comes to challenging questions.

biden's quote would've been perfectly apropos if he simply said it was latimer that that turned the lightbulb into a practical tool that changed the entirety of humanity which is absolutely true and deserves recognition

with biden i don't think it was an intentional lie though - i mean it was and it wasn't if take into account how he seems to process language before it shoots out of his mouth

i mean remember that weird hairy leg thing?
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Nimbly9 on Mar 07, 2023, 06:39 AM
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 07, 2023, 05:55 AMbiden's quote would've been perfectly apropos if he simply said it was latimer that that turned the lightbulb into a practical tool that changed the entirety of humanity which is absolutely true and deserves recognition

with biden i don't think it was an intentional lie though - i mean it was and it wasn't if take into account how he seems to process language before it shoots out of his mouth

i mean remember that weird hairy leg thing?

The hairy legs thing is so off the scale weird that I don't even know how to describe it.
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Toy Revolver on Mar 07, 2023, 07:06 AM
it was funny and very very weird
Title: Re: chatgpt on race and iq
Post by: Guybrush on Mar 07, 2023, 09:45 AM
On the topic of information that humanity at large is not able to handle in any kind of healthy way, biological differences between groups of people - sensibly defined or not - may be found on the very top.

It supports and enables things like hate, racism or the persecution of religious or political groups.

A thread about ChatGPT and its instructions in terms of how it talks about race could be valid, but the topic should be handled with extreme care as it likely to be considered very offensive to many people. This thread and its creation has not been worded or created with care.

I don't want to outlaw any topic, but we have to be mindful of others in how we approach and discuss them. To my mind, this is simply not good enough. From my own utilitarian point of view, I'm having a hard time justifying its continued existence. If we're to discuss these kind of topics, we have to raise the bar in terms of how we communicate.

I will lock this for now by moving it to the Thread Graveyard, but am open to your PMs.