Something Completely Different

Community section => Creators corner => Topic started by: Rubber Soul on Feb 01, 2023, 09:27 PM

Title: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 01, 2023, 09:27 PM
Hi would be writers, musicians, artists, and the like. :)

As the curator of this sub-forum I'd like to introduce myself. Of course, I'm part of the MB forum but I was also a member of a writing forum where I was a supervisor over a group of moderators. I'm still not what you would call the greatest writer but I did learn a lot of my craft at the WF (short for writingforums.com).

And I'd like to bring some of the better parts of that forum over here. Maybe some of you know of writing tips. What writers have influenced you or, for that matter, what musicians influenced you budding musicians out there, same with the artists.

I will be starting threads on famous writers and maybe ask some provocative questions as I think many of the great writers had an influence on world history at times.

And, starting in March, we will be holding writing contests with (hopefully) three judges. Maybe Guybrush can come up with some suitable award for the monthly winners but we can cross that bridge later. Maybe someone who is knowledgeable in art can hold an artists' contest as well.

So, to those of you who have interest in this section, welcome to the Creators Corner :)
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Guybrush on Feb 01, 2023, 10:39 PM
Sounds really good, RS! I definitely think we can come up with some fun awards.

I've been playing with the idea of doing something like a music competition as well, but haven't really figured out what the best format might be or even if we are currently enough musicians on here for it to make sense. If, dear reader, the idea of music competition entices you, let me know.

Anyways, there's lots of potential here for stuff to do and I'm eager to be a part of it :)

Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 02, 2023, 02:39 AM
Writing contests are great, however I would just let you know that at present I take part in two a month on another forum. They're only 100-word ones, so it doesn't take long, but if the ones here are going to be longer, much longer than that, I might have a problem keeping up with entries. That said, I don't know how many writers we have here, so maybe a roll call might be good? Anyone who has an interest might post a line or two, see if it's worth running the thing? We're still very young and even on MB the likes of a writing contest fell completely flat on its face, so perhaps gauge the level of interest first?

I'm sure there are other things that can be done too; I'll have a think and get back to you, see if anything suits. Porting over links for members' albums and songs might be good, too. Just suggestions, take or leave as appropriate.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: tristan_geoff on Feb 02, 2023, 05:18 AM
Quote from: Guybrush on Feb 01, 2023, 10:39 PMSounds really good, RS! I definitely think we can come up with some fun awards.

I've been playing with the idea of doing something like a music competition as well, but haven't really figured out what the best format might be or even if we are currently enough musicians on here for it to make sense. If, dear reader, the idea of music competition entices you, let me know.

Anyways, there's lots of potential here for stuff to do and I'm eager to be a part of it :)



Yes.  I could think of ideas later but for now what about a competition with who can like listen to music the fastest?  Like there's an album we all agree on listening to and someone has to listen to it faster than anyone else.  Like on 50% speed or something.  A speedrun competition
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 02, 2023, 07:59 AM
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 02, 2023, 02:39 AMWriting contests are great, however I would just let you know that at present I take part in two a month on another forum. They're only 100-word ones, so it doesn't take long, but if the ones here are going to be longer, much longer than that, I might have a problem keeping up with entries. That said, I don't know how many writers we have here, so maybe a roll call might be good? Anyone who has an interest might post a line or two, see if it's worth running the thing? We're still very young and even on MB the likes of a writing contest fell completely flat on its face, so perhaps gauge the level of interest first?

I'm sure there are other things that can be done too; I'll have a think and get back to you, see if anything suits. Porting over links for members' albums and songs might be good, too. Just suggestions, take or leave as appropriate.

I'm a writer! I'm very much planning on posting some music writings soon, I want to do something like write about my top 100 electronic albums. I'm not sure about contests though, I'm not a competitive person at all.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 02, 2023, 01:50 PM
Well, keep in mind that a writing contest would be something akin to a figure skating contest. In other words, you'd be at the mercy of the judges which would include myself and, hopefully, two other members.

The idea, at least at this point, would be to have a monthly theme (I thought anything Irish would be a good theme for March) and we'd limit each entry to 700 words. I'll post the basic criteria for judging as we get closer to March but, since we don't have a lot of members yet, I'd let the judges also enter as contestants with the stipulation that they couldn't judge their own entry. Maybe if we get more entrants, I'll revise that.

Anyway, have my fingers crossed. We might be able to make a go at it. :)
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 02, 2023, 06:22 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Feb 02, 2023, 07:59 AMI'm a writer! I'm very much planning on posting some music writings soon, I want to do something like write about my top 100 electronic albums. I'm not sure about contests though, I'm not a competitive person at all.

Ah Great to have another writer around here. Most people here are philistines! Couldn't even spell supercalifragilisticexpealadocious if their lives depended on it.  ;) What do you write? You should consider starting a journal.

Quote from: tristan_geoff on Feb 02, 2023, 05:18 AMYes.  I could think of ideas later but for now what about a competition with who can like listen to music the fastest?  Like there's an album we all agree on listening to and someone has to listen to it faster than anyone else.  Like on 50% speed or something.  A speedrun competition

I seriously don't get either the point or how this would be achieved?  ???
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 02, 2023, 07:09 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 02, 2023, 06:22 PMAh Great to have another writer around here. Most people here are philistines! Couldn't even spell supercalifragilisticexpealadocious if their lives depended on it.  ;) What do you write? You should consider starting a journal.

Way ahead of you, my friend!

I like to write a lot of stuff. I write about music, I keep a daily diary in my personal life, and I write a lot of adult fiction. I'm always writing; even when I'm hard at work on household chores I keep a word processor open to write down any thoughts and rambles. Been a passion of mine for over 20 years.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Guybrush on Feb 02, 2023, 07:57 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on Feb 02, 2023, 06:22 PM
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Feb 02, 2023, 05:18 AMYes.  I could think of ideas later but for now what about a competition with who can like listen to music the fastest?  Like there's an album we all agree on listening to and someone has to listen to it faster than anyone else.  Like on 50% speed or something.  A speedrun competition

I seriously don't get either the point or how this would be achieved?  ???

I have to agree with Trollheart here. What's the point of listening to something as fast as possible and played at a faster playback rate? So instead of listening to a Led Zep record, we listen to it speeded up so they sound like the smurfs with ADHD?

What I meant with music competition was more like.. Perhaps make a chip tune or make an instrumental song about comets that last for about a minute or something like that.

For the record, I am DOWN for a writing competition if we can curtail the max word count some :)
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 02, 2023, 10:00 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on Feb 02, 2023, 07:57 PMFor the record, I am DOWN for a writing competition if we can curtail the max word count some :)

We can do that. 700 was just the number we used at the Writing Forum but we can pare it down to maybe 500 words or even less. I don't think 100 words gives you enough to write a full story though.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 03, 2023, 01:20 AM
Oh, it does.

A Woman's Heart

"What do you mean, you don't know?" the President snapped.
The lead scientist swallowed.
"I'm sorry, sir.."
"Cities are vanishing," the President went on. "and you don't know why?"
A voice: "We just lost Beijing!"
"I want answers!" snarled the President, just before he, and Washington, became no more.
****
The ring, a mere trinket now, all she had to remember him by.
Left at the altar.
He had called her his goddess.
It wasn't fair.
Only women bleed.
Heart.
Broken.
His goddess...
Why didn't the world end?
And so, it did.

Behold the Man

Hoisted high on the shoulders of his fellows, he luxuriated in their cheers and applause. Finally, the old order had been overthrown. In the background the royal palace, a symbol of hatred and fear, oppression and tyranny for so long, was a burning shell, sending thick black plumes up into the night, while the stars above seemed to twinkle in approval.

A pretty girl broke through the crowd, a smile on her face, reached out to him...

"Sire? Sire!"

He opened his eyes, sighed.

Man, it really sucked being the king.

A Passage to England

"I do apologise, sir, but there appears to be a problem with your luggage."
"Luggage?"
"Your, ah, trunk, sir? The large box?"
"Oh my coff-coff-coff! Sorry: curse this dry throat."
"We don't seem to have your licence to export local soil, sir."
"My agent was supposed to have sorted that."
"Are you in contact with him, sir?"
"No. He's, ah, indisposed at the moment. Can you look again please?"
"Yes, sir, and your name again?"
"Dracula. Count Dracula. D-R-A-C..."

Encore

The tour bus jolts.
He reads the newspaper with approval.
Photograph of buildings burning, vehicles overturned in the street.
RAMPAGE IN DETROIT. LATEST IN WEEKS OF VIOLENCE ACROSS AMERICA. THOUSANDS KILLED.
He smiles. They'll do anything he tells them.
Even murder.
He's a rock god.
They love him.

He looks up.
A sign says WELCOME TO COLUMBUS.
Only the start of their world tour, and over forty thousand dead already.
He grins.
The others are pulling on their suits.
Human skin itches like blark but it's worth it.
Who needs an invasion fleet when humans can be controlled so easily?




Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 02:24 PM
Sorry, but except for maybe the first story, they either don't make sense or come off as snippets in a book. Maybe they work as punchlines but they're not really stories. Just my opinion, however.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 03, 2023, 04:29 PM
Seriously? You want me to explain them to you? They were all entered in contests and got decent feedback.

A Woman's Heart: The world is ending because a goddess who has been made human is heartbroken and wants the world to end.

Behold the Man: The king dreams of his own deposing from power, but he's still on the throne.

A Passage to England: A conversation between Dracula and a customs guy as he prepares to leave Transylvania, and gets tied up in red tape.

Encore: Aliens arrive and find that, in a gig situation, crowds will do anything the star asks them to do.

I think they're all pretty self-explanatory, given the restrictions of the word count.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 04:37 PM
You were especially subtle with the Dracula story :laughing:

I still think you need a larger limit than 100 words. Most people won't be able to convey what they're trying to get across in 100 words. I'm able to make a solid story in around 300 words myself but someone else might need a few more words than that. Besides, I'm only talking about a maximum limit; if you want to write a story in less than 100 words, nobody is going to stop you.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 03, 2023, 06:07 PM
AH no, I know it's hard, and I'm not suggesting you set a 100-word limit. I just wanted to show that it can be done. I'm okay with anything up to 1000 words, but then it does depend on how frequently the contests will be run. Will you be doing what we do elsewhere, that the winner gets to choose the theme of the next contest?
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 06:58 PM
Not sure. I guess it depends. I mean logic would say we would do a Halloween theme for October for example. What'd I'd really like to do is to maybe get nominations for a monthly theme (and, yes, the contests would be monthly) and then we'd vote on them. Maybe the previous winner could be a tiebreaker if it comes to that. I'd also want to give the judges a week to turn in their reviews so if the contest ends on March 31, the reviews would have to be in April 7. Of course, we'd already be into the April contest so we'd be doing a lot of overlapping between that and voting on the next theme. I'll set up a schedule on how we can do things. The most pressing thing right now though is what our word limit should be. I'm open to anything between 300 and 700 but what do you guys say?
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Guybrush on Feb 03, 2023, 07:31 PM
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 06:58 PMThe most pressing thing right now though is what our word limit should be. I'm open to anything between 300 and 700 but what do you guys say?

I think that sounds good. I imagine that's about the size of a creepypasta :)
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 03, 2023, 07:45 PM
I'm interested in possibly submitting my writings to a potential contest. I just have one question. Would it be OK to enter writing that is "adult"/erotic? That's the genre I feel most at home writing, and I'm not sure if something like that is allowed on the forum. Nothing insanely smutty but I understand if erotica is not allowed.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 07:59 PM
Well, first of all, I'm not sure what Guybrush's criteria in terms of the forum would be so we have to look at that. And, personally, I'm not really into something beyond R-rated so I would definitely be thumbs down on something pornographic. However, something tastefully done in a romantic setting, I wouldn't see a problem with that.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 03, 2023, 08:06 PM
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 07:59 PMWell, first of all, I'm not sure what Guybrush's criteria in terms of the forum would be so we have to look at that. And, personally, I'm not really into something beyond R-rated so I would definitely be thumbs down on something pornographic. However, something tastefully done in a romantic setting, I wouldn't see a problem with that.

Thank you for your input. My writing is always absolutely the latter. Nothing hardcore or pornographic, always done sensually and tastefully.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Guybrush on Feb 03, 2023, 09:38 PM
I don't mind and am fairly liberal minded in any case. As long as content doesn't interfere with our goals or break the stated rules, it should be fine. I think it's up to whoever holds the competition to say something about format and genre might be part of that.

If there ever was to be an erotica competition, I wouldn't mind. I might submit something myself.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 09:44 PM
We will have to have some boundaries if for no other reasons, legal implications. As such we cannot allows stories with pedophilia overtones for example. They could actually shut down the forum if we were to allow that. Also, if someone would plagiarize and it was proven, we would have to disqualify that entry at the very least. Again, something like that becomes a legal matter and isn't right anyhow.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 03, 2023, 10:23 PM
Understood, thank you! Almost all of my erotic writings are based largely on my own relationship, I only write from experience. I would never write anything morally twisted like that.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 03, 2023, 10:28 PM
I would.  ;)

Seriously, I might have a bit of a problem with erotica, but as long as it was in context, i.e. not every story submitted by Her Ladyship was of a nooky bent, then sure maybe. I think it might be a mistake to have erotica in every contest; apart from anything else, as I have found over the last few years, it's never good to pigeonhole your writing. I used to think I could only write science fiction and fantasy, now I'm writing horror, comic fantasy, real-world drama and speculative fiction as well as satire. It's good to stretch out and challenge yourself.
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Rubber Soul on Feb 03, 2023, 10:36 PM
Please note that I'm not singling anyone out. I'm just recounting the discussions we've had at the writing forum. As Trollheart certainly knows, they're a bit more conservative than we're going to be and the present owner there is always terrified of lawsuits which gave Trollheart and others a lot less freedom than we all have here and at MB. I mean, what we would do without Trollheart's pictures? :laughing:

Anyway, I'll try to be as flexible as possible without crossing any reasonable lines (I'm not one of those holy rollers for example :D )
Title: Re: plans, oh we have plans :)
Post by: Lexi Darling on Feb 03, 2023, 10:38 PM
Oh, I certainly wouldn't submit erotica into every contest. I would always try to fit the theme, I was just looking for clarity on whether I could submit erotic stuff at all.