.. Who should it be?
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So for years I've listened to Last Podcast on the Left (mostly true crime / comedy) and so I am getting somewhat familiar with many of history's most heinous serial killers.
The morbid question is this: if you were to be the victim of one of these creatures, who would you prefer it to be?
On the flip side, who should it NOT be? Let it be known and state your reasons if you can.
My pick for preferable is gonna be scottish necrophiliac Dennis Nielsen. He's like a gentler Jeffrey Dahmer without the head drilling and cannibalism, etc. If everything went according to his plan, he'd get me dead drunk and choke me while I was unconscious. Only problem is I'm a teetotal, but oh well. Also, my dead body would keep him company, so he'd get some "use" out of it. It could have alleviated his loneliness for a while.
My pick for undesirable would be Bob Bardella because he would violate and torture me for a long time and smash my limbs with a hammer to keep me from escaping. Big sigh!
Isn't Dennis Nielsen the one that blocked his building's drains because he kept flushing body parts down the toilet, then when Dyno-Rod were called out he said the blockage looked like KFC?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jan 27, 2023, 02:59 PMIsn't Dennis Nielsen the one that blocked his building's drains because he kept flushing body parts down the toilet, then when Dyno-Rod were called out he said the blockage looked like KFC?
Yep, that's him. My flesh being flushed down the toilet also kinda suits me since I work in wastewater / sewage management.
I think the Washington Snipers would pick me off while I filled up my car. I wouldn't know anything about it, which would be better than spending a night with Nielsen.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jan 27, 2023, 03:21 PMI think the Washington Snipers would pick me off while I filled up my car. I wouldn't know anything about it, which would be better than spending a night with Nielsen.
A headshot
might not be so bad, but what if they miss and just take your jaw off? And I imagine it'd be stressful if you saw others getting shot or shot at around you before you yourself were taken out.
I'd have to spend time with Nielsen and he'd play me his favourite music, but his tastes weren't all bad. The main unpleasantness with hanging with Nielsen could be the reek coming from the dead bodies stowed around in his place.
I lived within the proximity of the DC Sniper and I have a feeling they may have even parked outside my house at the time (He had been spotted in Baltimore during the carnage but that came out after he was captured). That was a scary period for anyone in Maryland or Virginia at that time.
Quote from: Rubber Soul on Jan 27, 2023, 04:21 PMI lived within the proximity of the DC Sniper and I have a feeling they may have even parked outside my house at the time (He had been spotted in Baltimore during the carnage but that came out after he was captured). That was a scary period for anyone in Maryland or Virginia at that time.
That's creepy. I went to a protest march in DC right before they were caught and I remember being nervous about it.
I don't know much about them so just checked out the Wikipedia page.
This immediately caught my eye:
Quote from: Wikipedia[...] the snipers killed 17 people and wounded 10 others in a 10-month span. [...]
Investigators and the prosecution suggested during pre-trial motions that Muhammad intended to kill his second ex-wife Mildred, who he felt had estranged him from his children. According to this hypothesis, the other shootings were intended to cover up the motive for the crime. Muhammad believed that the police would not focus on an estranged ex-husband as a suspect if Mildred appeared to be a random victim of a serial killer.
So you kill and maim a whole bunch of people to cover up
one murder?
The mind of the psychopath is fascinating :|
i used to think i knew a lot about serial killers but then when these threads come up it's like normal people know as much about serial killers as i do jazz musicians- yall are sick - get help
to the question i just read a nurse was pumping air into the feeding tubes of newborns or something like that - that's practically like being aborted so i'll go with that - get er dun!
for what i wouldnt want is like gacy because i think he raped and tortured his victims over a long period of time - any of those that take you out into the country where no one can hear and go full bananas 🍌 like most people that's what i don't want - some weirdo that's gonna make me chew my own balls off or whatever - no thank you please
If prolific Mafia and Cartel hit-men count as serial killers, then I'd prefer to be taken out by one of them via a powerful bomb of some type which would instantly blast me to smithereens.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 28, 2023, 07:27 PMIf prolific Mafia and Cartel hit-men count as serial killers, then I'd prefer to be taken out by one of them via a powerful bomb of some type which would instantly blast me to smithereens.
I generally don't think so unless they also have an inner motivation / urge that causes them to do so even when it's not a job and they're not getting paid.
Richard Kuklinski is a famous hitman who also killed people besides work, so he might fit the bill. If I remember correctly, his supposed craziest way of killing someone was tying them up in a cave to be eaten alive by rats.
QuoteIf I remember correctly, his supposed craziest way of killing someone was tying them up in a cave to be eaten alive by rats.
Why on earth would you know this?
Quote from: TheNonSexual OccultHawk on Jan 28, 2023, 08:16 PMQuoteIf I remember correctly, his supposed craziest way of killing someone was tying them up in a cave to be eaten alive by rats.
Why on earth would you know this?
There are things about Guybrush we don't know about :D
Quote from: TheNonSexual OccultHawk on Jan 28, 2023, 08:16 PMQuoteIf I remember correctly, his supposed craziest way of killing someone was tying them up in a cave to be eaten alive by rats.
Why on earth would you know this?
Because Last Podcast on the Left made a series on him. You should check it out! I think it's one of their funnier ones :)
Edit:
Oh and he supposedly also set up a camera so he could watch the rats gnaw his victims to death.
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 27, 2023, 05:35 PMI don't know much about them so just checked out the Wikipedia page.
This immediately caught my eye:
Quote from: Wikipedia[...] the snipers killed 17 people and wounded 10 others in a 10-month span. [...]
Investigators and the prosecution suggested during pre-trial motions that Muhammad intended to kill his second ex-wife Mildred, who he felt had estranged him from his children. According to this hypothesis, the other shootings were intended to cover up the motive for the crime. Muhammad believed that the police would not focus on an estranged ex-husband as a suspect if Mildred appeared to be a random victim of a serial killer.
So you kill and maim a whole bunch of people to cover up one murder?
The mind of the psychopath is fascinating :|
It was a strange case. It seemed to go on for ages. Every time you saw the news they'd got one more and then the police started communicating with them via the media and press conferences.
Getting whacked by a Mafia boss sounds alright too, just walk into a room and next thing it's over.
Reading about Lucy Letby again made me think of this thread again. Maybe getting killed by Lucy Letby would be a good way to go, but supposedly those newborns suffered horribly.
Harold Shipman might not be so bad. His method of choice was lethal doses of diamorphine.
Yeah, might trade Nielsen for Shipman.. although Shipman would perhaps get at my money while Nielsen would just want me for my body.
Sigh, choices.
She injected them with milk, air and other stuff. I doubt it'd be a good way to go.
She also enjoyed comforting the families of the babies she had just killed.
Pure evil.
Her friends and family are standing by her. I find that mad.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Aug 22, 2023, 06:12 PMShe injected them with milk, air and other stuff. I doubt it'd be a good way to go.
She also enjoyed comforting the families of the babies she had just killed.
Pure evil.
Her friends and family are standing by her. I find that mad.
That's the most insane thing about this story.
Why can people not get it through their thick skulls that someone can be a wonderful friend to you and become a completely different person in a different context. You can be the best listener in the world when you're with your best friend and then have urges that would never get triggered in the context of that friendship and that make you do horrible things.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12433159/I-never-believe-Lucy-Letby-guilty-Childhood-friend-maintains-nurse-innocent-video-emerges-pair-Night-Terror-six-years-day-murderer-tried-kill-set-twins.html
Quote"I grew up with Lucy and not a single thing that I've ever seen or witnessed of Lucy would let me for a moment believe she is capable of the things she's accused of. It is the most out-of-character accusation that you could ever put against Lucy," she said. "Think of your most kind, gentle, soft friend and think that they're being accused of harming babies.... Unless Lucy turned around and said 'I'm guilty', I will never believe that she's guilty."
https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/lucy-letby-friends-family-trial-panorama-baby-killer-b1102017.html
You could kind of understand if it was one victim, I'd imagine that's pretty common where the family and friends believe they're innocent. But she's been found guilty of killing at least 7. Could be more!
interesting thoughts
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 28, 2023, 07:27 PMIf prolific Mafia and Cartel hit-men count as serial killers, then I'd prefer to be taken out by one of them via a powerful bomb of some type which would instantly blast me to smithereens.
Cartel members are fucking brutal. Hell no. Not only will they torture you, but they'll film it and that stuff always ends up on Tik Tok.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Sep 08, 2024, 07:40 AMCartel members are fucking brutal. Hell no. Not only will they torture you, but they'll film it and that stuff always ends up on Tik Tok.
Yeah, I don't think I want a video of my dismembered arms and legs perpendicular to my severed head used to send a message. Give me the Zodiac Killer over that shit any day.
You could get "lucky" getting blown away by Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) or perhaps shot in the head by David Berkowitz (Son of Sam), but you might also just end up mangled.
A Cartel related serial Killer that might be one of the worst people to get taken out by is Adolfo Constanzo. But at least you would be dead within hours or days after the torture started. It wouldn't take weeks like it did for Robert Berdella's victims 🤔
Damn, you have enough names to make a sequel of CombiChrist's 'God Bless'.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Sep 08, 2024, 07:40 AMCartel members are fucking brutal. Hell no. Not only will they torture you, but they'll film it and that stuff always ends up on Tik Tok.
Good thing I said "I'd prefer to be taken out by one of them via a powerful bomb of some type which would instantly blast me to smithereens." ;D
I actually used to know a guy who was married to a daughter of a high-ranking member of one of the Mexican cartels. I never felt uneasy around him but I was always a bit leery of becoming too close to him and his family.
I don't think of most cartel Killers as serial Killers, though possibly they all are or some of them. When I think of serial killer, I think of someone who's internally motivated to kill. Usually it's because it turns them on, but it could be something else.
Being ordered or paid to kill are external motivators, so I typically think of those as hired Killers or something else.
The only Hitman I've done a little diving into is Richard Kuklinski (who'd probably poison you btw) and he DID act as a serial killer now and then, murdering people when it wasn't a job or paid anything. Among other things, he supposedly killed homeless people for practice and a bunch of guys in a road rage incident. For practice does sound work related, but I also assume he liked doing it.
His worst supposed way to kill someone (imo) was leave them tied in a cave to die by rats. He also supposedly set up a camera to film it.