Eeeyo!!
So I've been on a minor cult binge very recently, first watching the Love Has Won doc (on HBO) about the cult around Mother God, then the Twin Flames doc (Netflix) and now watching The Vow about NXIVM (HBO).
Besides this spur of doc watching, I think cults are interesting and know at least a little about notable ones like Scientology, People's Temple, Heaven's Gate, Children of God, Aum Shinrikyo and the Branch Davidians.
I thought it might be an interesting topic, so I invite you to share or discuss anything you think is interesting on this topic.
I also wonder, have any of you guys run into any cultists or perhaps even been one at some point?
A bizarre cult relic is the molesty Children of God comic centered around the life of Davidito (real name Ricky Rodriguez).
This Christian cult, now called The Family, invented Flirty Fishing (honey trapping men with pretty girls) and had some very liberal views on sex, so liberal as to lead into paedophilia.
So this cartoon aimed at teaching child rearing and focusing on this child Davidito describes some of the sort of stuff that was going on.
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You can see more here if you want: https://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito
As this page says, Davidito (the boy from the comic) and victim of sexual abuse "ultimately murdered one of his former nannies mentioned here and subsequently took his own life in 2005."
I attended a 'Blue Öyster Cult' concert in the 70's.
But seriously, I've never been able to understand how some people can be so gullible and foolish as to fall for that type of nonsense. Probably better that I don't understand it, otherwise I might be drinking the Kool-Aid in some crazy cult somewhere.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Dec 19, 2023, 06:58 PMI attended a 'Blue Öyster Cult' concert in the 70's.
But seriously, I've never been able to understand how some people can be so gullible and foolish as to fall for that type of nonsense. Probably better that I don't understand it, otherwise I might be drinking the Kool-Aid in some crazy cult somewhere.
It's the same way that people fall for gang culture. I'm sure there is some psychological reasoning behind it where they turn to the cults to fill the void of loneliness or not having a purpose. Or from the lack of love that their parents didn't show them. There are a plethora of different reasons.
Most people know about Jim Jones, the people's temple and the mass suicide at Jonestown. It's a fascinating story.
Here are some of the pictures of Jonestown and its more than 900 dead.
Pictures from Jonestown and a lotta dead cultists
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You probably know this too, but it wasn't actually cool aid, but poisoned flavor-aid.
Don't drink the kool aid!
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 19, 2023, 08:51 PMIt's the same way that people fall for gang culture. I'm sure there is some psychological reasoning behind it where they turn to the cults to fill the void of loneliness or not having a purpose. Or from the lack of love that their parents didn't show them. There are a plethora of different reasons.
There is a difference though, how many adults do you see joining gangs? Vulnerable kids will do it because they don't know any better. Plenty of people join cults as adults though. And it's not just that, it's the beliefs. This guy convinced hundreds of people to knowingly drink poison that would kill them.
I see what Psy-Fi is saying. That was my first thought too but there is probably some other shit I'm not considering.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Dec 21, 2023, 01:28 AMThere is a difference though, how many adults do you see joining gangs? Vulnerable kids will do it because they don't know any better. Plenty of people join cults as adults though. And it's not just that, it's the beliefs. This guy convinced hundreds of people to knowingly drink poison that would kill them.
Well the guy that forced people to knowingly drink poison. Gave them a choice, either they drink the poison or be shot in the head.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 21, 2023, 08:01 AMWell the guy that forced people to knowingly drink poison. Gave them a choice, either they drink the poison or be shot in the head.
Some coercion and other tactics I'm sure as not everyone wanted to, but I think most by far willingly participated.
This is why the crime scene is so bizarre. It's just littered with dead people; not rounded up or locked in, not covered gunshot wounds, just laid down and died where they were.
There was a Casefile episode about Jim Jones and I listened to it but it was a long time ago. Forgot the shooting threat. I need to listen to it again tbh.
Point still stands though regarding some of the shit they believe. A gang doesn't try to fill your head with crazy beliefs that you know are nonsense, but the cults do. And adults believe it. I know there's more to it and a lot of psychological stuff but that's a big difference.
I think you're talking about two different things. There's the matter of how the cult gets a hold of you and then there's the matter of turning you into a brainwashed cultist.
I think cults usually don't grab you with the weird stuff. Since I've just seen three cult docs, I'd say the Twin Flames cult lure in people who are young, lonely, vulnerable with the promise of finding them a romantic partner. NXIVM on the other hand was much more of the self-help variety, like to help you be the best version of yourself. I'm not sure exactly what the perfect victim is, but at least it's people who are open and much too trusting. Actually, I think a common thread is that they're usually very good people, like genuinely unselfish.
After a lot of mental conditioning, probably years and years, you may be ready and susceptible for the message that you're actually a woman trapped in a man's body and your leader is kinda Jesus or can be convinced that being a slave and subjecting yourself to hot iron branding with Keith Rainere's initials is somehow empowering for you. Maybe you can get smarter if you bang the guru.
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Quote from: jimmy jazz on Dec 21, 2023, 11:41 AMThere was a Casefile episode about Jim Jones and I listened to it but it was a long time ago. Forgot the shooting threat. I need to listen to it again tbh.
Point still stands though regarding some of the shit they believe. A gang doesn't try to fill your head with crazy beliefs that you know are nonsense, but the cults do. And adults believe it. I know there's more to it and a lot of psychological stuff but that's a big difference.
I remember they had lots of guns because Jim Jones kinda manufactured an outside threat to keep people motivated and unified and they were prepared for this attack Jones had said was coming.. and which was probably a little more real after they killed visiting politician Leo Ryan and his entourage. I remember they had armed guards and a security force. But I don't really remember them having to use the guns to force people into drinking poison, though it may well have happened in some cases.
They did mass suicide drills before that fated day in 1978.
Quote from: Deborah Layton cited on WikipediaEveryone, including the children, was told to line up. As we passed through the line, we were given a small glass of red liquid to drink. We were told that the liquid contained poison and that we would die within 45 minutes. We all did as we were told. When the time came when we should have dropped dead, Rev. Jones explained that the poison was not real and that we had just been through a loyalty test. He warned us that the time was not far off when it would become necessary for us to die by our own hands.
She says they all did as they were told during the drills.. which apparently they didn't even know were drills.
When I think of cults only one face comes to mind.
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Quote from: Nimbly9 on Dec 21, 2023, 03:36 PMWhen I think of cults only one face comes to mind.
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Swifties are indeed cultish
Along with the Beyhive and the Barbies(Nicki Minaj's fans)
I feel like fan culture has always veered towards crazy though this isn't something new with those three performers.
Yeah. Though I think rabid fan communities definitely used to be a less mainstream thing. Juggalos, scene kids, k-poppers, their music and culture was always just a bit to the side of the ultra super mainstream, whereas swifties are congregating around one of the most popular, overexposed and widely appealing artists out there. So maybe they just seem more prevalent because of that.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 21, 2023, 07:15 PMSwifties are indeed cultish
Along with the Beyhive and the Barbies(Nicki Minaj's fans)
I feel like fan culture has always veered towards crazy though this isn't something new with those three performers.
Funny story, I went to last weekend's Chiefs @ Patriots game. Taylor Swift showed up and was on the jumbotron for maybe 10 seconds. After the game, I'm leaving the stadium, going down a stairwell - and this stairwell connects to the Luxry Boxes, and this woman nearby was yelling out "TAYLOR!?.......TAYLOR!?" as she peered through the small windows on the locked door to the luxury boxes. I thought it was a joke at first but quickly realized it wasn't.
For anyone that didn't see the recent MeatCanyon video:
Maybe you guys know about Aum Shinrikyo, the cult behind the Tokyo Subway sarin gas attack.
If not, here's a relatively short vice doc summary:
As far as cults go, they were relatively vicious, murdering several people and plotting many attacks.
But they also produced manga and animes:
Have you seen Daughters of the Cult?
It is on Hulu and it's based off of Mormons.
The leader was dubbed Mormon Mason. I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Quote from: Guybrush on Dec 23, 2023, 09:21 AMMaybe you guys know about Aum Shinrikyo, the cult behind the Tokyo Subway sarin gas attack.
If not, here's a relatively short vice doc summary:
As far as cults go, they were relatively vicious, murdering several people and plotting many attacks.
But they also produced manga and animes:
Nope! Don't think I've seen any Mormon docs, but I know a little bit about the con artist Joseph Smith and the formation of the church from listening to podcasts.
Sounds like something I might like 🙂 let me know what you think!
Cults seem to be pretty common in the USA.
I don't know anyone who has been in one over here, don't even think I could name a news story of one, but just from MB I think there are several of you who have experience with them?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Dec 27, 2023, 05:36 PMCults seem to be pretty common in the USA.
I don't know anyone who has been in one over here, don't even think I could name a news story of one, but just from MB I think there are several of you who have experience with them?
I'm curious about this and will look into it. I think most European cults happened in the past while more of the US ones are more recent in history so that's why it seems like cults only start up in the states but believe me. Cults are a world wide phenomenon.
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The most modern one in EU were from France and Switzerland.
QuoteThe Order of the Solar Temple was an esoteric cult that merged Gnosticism, alien beliefs, the occult, and other out-of-mainstream elements to create a creed that centered on establishing a correct order of authority and power. The members believed that they were heralding the second coming of Jesus Christ as well as creating a unified belief system for both Christianity and Islam. The Order of the Solar Temple was primarily regarded as a secret society, mainly based in Switzerland and France, and few people outside of its cloisters had access to information about its goings-on.
In October 1994, one of the cult's leaders, Joseph Di Mambro ordered the murder of a three-month-old boy because he believed that the infant was the antichrist, born into the group to keep Di Mambro from becoming the leader. He then held a ritual Last Supper, just a few days before different groups of The Order of the Solar Temple began committing mass suicide. Some groups committed suicide in chapels that were adorned with symbology of the Knights Templar, suggesting that the mass suicides were rituals ordered as part of the cult's religious beliefs. In some cases, the buildings where they committed suicide were set to detonate so that the souls of the deceased would be purified with fire. The mass suicides continued for three years.
Source (https://historycollection.com/16-infamous-cults-in-history/)
^Hey, I heard a podcast about those guys some years ago. Kinda dull, but very devoted peeps and they had some well standing and rich members as well from what I can recall.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 27, 2023, 06:53 PMI'm curious about this and will look into it. I think most European cults happened in the past while more of the US ones are more recent in history so that's why it seems like cults only start up in the states but believe me. Cults are a world wide phenomenon.
Edit:
The most modern one in EU were from France and Switzerland.
Source (https://historycollection.com/16-infamous-cults-in-history/)
Went back and relistened to Last Podcast on the Left's 3 episode coverage if this. It's not one of their best, but still amusing.
By their description, it does sound like LARP for the wealthy/mostly upper middle class. They had robes, pretended to be Knights Templars, were deep into Christian esotericism and did a lot of rituals.
At some of these rituals, they had a special FX guy with lasers and setting up various things. They also had props, like the holy grail and the sword Excalibur. Before seeing these things, members would get high on shrooms or LSD and it would basically seem like magic or like the props materialized out of thin air.
Towards the end of it, one of the guy's sons found his father's prop closet and the rubber Excalibur and thought fuck this shit and left with a bunch of high ranking members. Other things had also made people leave, like the two leaders focusing more on banging the women in the cult and being controlling in a pretty bad way.
Also, they were getting old and at least one (if not both) was dying of cancer. So it wasn't just the antichrist being born that caused the massacres, it seems.
The antichrist was born of parents who were defectors from the cult, the father being the special FX guy I believe. They weren't allowed to have a child when they were in the cult, but wanted to after they'd left. Also no-one was allowed to name their child Emmanuel (I think it was) as that was the name of the reborn Christ child of one of the leaders, so when these defectors used this name for their baby, it was declared antichrist by the cult and they killed that whole family and then started killing themselves.
Quite a few of them seemed to need to be helped along, either tranquilized before being shot in the head or forced to with trash bags wrapped around their heads (a sign they were traitors).
So pretty bonkers overall. Quite a bit of nerd rage / LARP energy to this.
Finished The Vow season 2 a while ago. While it might be a little slow for most people, I loved it. It's about the NXIVM cult and its past leader, Keith Raniere, who is now serving some very serious jail time.
Raniere's cult was supposedly about self-improvement, but to Keith it was also about controlling people and getting to have sex with a lot of women. Also children as his youngest victim was 15.
Cultists were taught that anything that happened to them was their own fault, there are no victims, and other mental gymnastics that hopefully would make people morally confused so they'd think Keith was infallible even though he seems a predator, psychopath and massive douche.
Keith of course had multiple girlfriends at a time while demanding those girls to stay faithful to him. He controlled many if not all of them with promises that he'd make them pregnant (!) and he was very controlling in terms of how much they ate. He liked the anorexic look.
The most famous detail about NXIVM is DOS, the cult within the cult. It was a pyramid scheme of masters and slaves where women would get offered to join with no real explanation of what it was, but they'd have to provide collateral to join. They had to take nude photos and send in or make videos where they talked shit about their family or write a long letter where they admit to being prostitutes or whatever. Just something their masters could hold over then to keep their loyal. Some had to provide more collateral every week. Then they'd get treated like slaves, groomed for sex with Keith and put through a branding ceremony where they got hot iron branded with Keith's initials.
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One of my favourite details was he organised a big gangbang with all the slaves and he called it a re-commitment ceremony 😄 But I think maybe he was arrested just before the big day? A little unsure.
Anyways, he definitely deserves a jail cell. That he still has supporters in this world baffles me.
Authorities Search for 6 People Reported Missing After Cops Say They Followed So-Called Cult Leader (https://www.insideedition.com/authorities-search-for-6-people-reported-missing-after-cops-say-they-followed-so-called-cult-leader)
And there's a website...
The University of Cosmic Intelligence (https://www.theuci.online/)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jan 10, 2024, 11:19 PMAuthorities Search for 6 People Reported Missing After Cops Say They Followed So-Called Cult Leader (https://www.insideedition.com/authorities-search-for-6-people-reported-missing-after-cops-say-they-followed-so-called-cult-leader)
And there's a website...
The University of Cosmic Intelligence (https://www.theuci.online/)
Nice find!
Whoops:
Quote from: News articleIn August, White was convicted in a Georgia court for child molestation and cruelty to children. He was later sentenced to 18 years in prison, which he is currently serving in Georgia.
Seems bad. Wonder why they have this pic on their cult website:
https://www.theuci.online/videos-2?pgid=kkt8klh72-5dfa236e-99e2-4e9f-9fb8-eff8e66e7063
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Is that the 'QAnon Shaman' with Trump, and Charles Manson with Biden?
I saw these two images shared by two completely politically different nutjobs on Insta so I shared them together here lol. One was an Occupy Democrats guy and the other was a Christian nationalist I can't tell if that figure is supposed to be Jesus, Kenny Loggins, Charles Manson or a combination of the three. I'm assuming #1 though.
Looks kinda Mansony to me.
Also, Manson's little cult is definitely on topic, so that's a bonus point right there.
Saw this doc, the way down about Gwen Shamblin and her Remnants church/cult.
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This started as a Christian weight loss program because while there's all sorts of things in the world that needs fixing, God's attention is on helping overweight southern Americans help lose weight.
The doc is decent - that talk hair is always a hoot - but they're not as violent or molesty or suicidal as most other cults. Still very controlling and working hard to isolate its members and their children from the outside world. Also, child abuse by way of physical and mental abuse seems widespread in this cult.
I now know that if I wanna beat my kids, I can use glue sticks. But oh well, that would be illegal here.
It's also funny how these cult people often seem kinda stupid, yet cunning. It's like they have a criminal mindset. I guess it's the psychopathy 🤔
Prayse jaysus
Anyone here familiar with the Unarius cult? Some wacky UFO shit from California. They made a bunch of low budget movies in the 70s based off their whole lore, and Mr. W (who loves space and alien conspiracy stuff) and I went down that rabbit hole a couple years ago.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jan 18, 2024, 04:53 PMAnyone here familiar with the Unarius cult? Some wacky UFO shit from California. They made a bunch of low budget movies in the 70s based off their whole lore, and Mr. W (who loves space and alien conspiracy stuff) and I went down that rabbit hole a couple years ago.
Haha, oh man. That's a lot of colors. I never heard of these guys, but I guess they were fond of LSD?
Thanks for sharing 🙂 looks like a fun, little rabbit hole.
Also sounds like the perfect cult for you guys to entertain yourselves with if they made low budget movies 😄
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 18, 2024, 05:25 PMHaha, oh man. That's a lot of colors. I never heard of these guys, but I guess they were fond of LSD?
Thanks for sharing 🙂 looks like a fun, little rabbit hole.
Also sounds like the perfect cult for you guys to entertain yourselves with if they made low budget movies 😄
You know it haha. There's actually some pretty advanced practical effects (for the 70s) in some of their movies.
And yeah, very colorful. Cults these days probably couldn't get away with being that glam. :laughing:
Watching an old Children of God doc on HBO, a cult mentioned on this thread's first page that was rife with child sexual abuse.
Some of the details about its past leader, David Berg, are quite disturbing.
Descriptions of child mental and sexual abuse
One of the women in the documentary, Davida, describes how Berg would have orgies where both adults and children were involved.
She describes how he'd get drunk, then wake his granddaughter to have sex with her. When she was tired and didn't want to, he said she was possessed by demons and needed an exorcism. He then woke Davida to have sex with her instead. When they complained from being tired and didn't want to, they'd get punished by their parents or nannies for not responding appropriately to their leader's demands for sex.
There were lots of children in the cult due to all the flirty fishing. Women would lure men into the cult by way of having sex with them and would often end up pregnant. Berg seemed to think being pregnant was what women should be doing from the age of 12 or so and up.
Completely gross.. and "The Family" as they call themselves still exist today, though fortunately Berg died in 1994 (good riddance).
Orgasm guru faces years in prison over claims her OneTaste empire was a sex cult (https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/news/gwyneth-paltrows-onetaste-orgasm-guru-ran-sex-cult-feds/) :pimp:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Feb 03, 2024, 03:13 PMOrgasm guru faces years in prison over claims her OneTaste empire was a sex cult (https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/news/gwyneth-paltrows-onetaste-orgasm-guru-ran-sex-cult-feds/) :pimp:
"Daedone trademarked the technique, which involved a woman undressing from the waist down then lying on a "nest of pillows" to have her genitals stroked, usually by a man wearing a a latex glove for precisely 15 minutes. Daedone claimed she learned it from a Buddhist monk."
😄
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Self-proclaimed pastor accused of leading starvation cult in Kenya pleads not guilty to 191 child murders (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenya-cult-starvation-pastor-paul-mackenzie-pleads-not-guilty-191-child-murders/)
I watched the 7M tik tok dance cult recently. It was super interesting but incredibly sad for those involved.
Today I'm watching a documentary on the 2X2 church.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Jun 13, 2024, 11:10 PMI watched the 7M tik tok dance cult recently. It was super interesting but incredibly sad for those involved.
Today I'm watching a documentary on the 2X2 church.
I also watched the dancing one, but only vaguely as I just had it on in the background while working.
I get the feeling that raising people in a very religious manner can make them vulnerable when it comes to getting snatched up by cults.
Quote from: Guybrush on Jun 16, 2024, 01:56 AMI also watched the dancing one, but only vaguely as I just had it on in the background while working.
I get the feeling that raising people in a very religious manner can make them vulnerable when it comes to getting snatched up by cults.
I think the best cults use religion as a way to have a strangle hold over it's members. People that have felt like they lost their way in life are usually looking for an outlet or a way to feel better about life and cults provide that.
There is a series called Cult Justice and each episode is a different cult. I love this series because it shows a proper satisfying conclusion to these disgusting cults and how they got shut down. Most of them involve sex with minors.
Cult Justice? Never heard of that, but it sounds like fun 😄 I'll keep an eye out.
Monastery in Thailand under investigation after authorities find 41 bodies allegedly used for meditation (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monastery-thailand-bodies-meditation-investigation/)
Member of secretive Christian sect sentenced to 120 years in prison (https://abcnews.go.com/US/member-secretive-christian-sect-sentenced-120-years-prison/story?id=116460154)
Recently happened upon this video, and let me tell you, the story of this cult absolutely lives up to that title and then some, haha. So many twists and turns in this rabbit hole.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Dec 20, 2024, 08:21 AMRecently happened upon this video, and let me tell you, the story of this cult absolutely lives up to that title and then some, haha. So many twists and turns in this rabbit hole.
Oh I'm intrigued! I'm out and about and on my way to band practice, but I've added it to my Watch Later. Looking forward to it! 😊
This cult shouldn't be branded as the transgender death cult but the vegan death cult. See being vegan makes you go insane and people shouldn't do that silly diet.
QuoteA cult-like US group known as Zizians has been linked to a string of murders, sparking several arrests – who are the people behind this group and what do they believe?
Jack Lasota, 34, who allegedly leads a group of a few dozen followers known as Zizians, was arrested on Sunday alongside Michelle Zajko, 32, and Daniel Blank, 26, on charges including trespassing and obstruction.
Authorities say they are investigating at least six killings across the US that are allegedly connected to members of the group, including a double homicide in Pennsylvania, a knife attack in California, and the shooting of a US border guard in January.
Four other alleged members of the group have already been charged with murder.
The origins of the group
Lasota, a transgender woman, is allegedly the leader of the group.
She earned a degree in computer science from the University of Alaska-Fairbanks in 2013 and, according to her blog, moved to the San Francisco area three years later.
There, she wrote that she applied for a series of jobs at tech companies and startups - including a brief internship with Nasa - and began to associate with people involved in the rationalist movement, an intellectual trend popular in Silicon Valley that emphasises the power of the human mind to see clear truth, eliminate bias and bad thinking, and improve individuals and society.
Lasota began blogging using the alias "Ziz", but soon fell out with mainstream rationalists as her writings spun off in bizarre directions.
The blog included posts of thousands of words, blending Lasota's personal experiences, theories about technology and philosophy, and esoteric comments about pop culture, computer coding and dozens of other subjects.
At one point, during a long diatribe about the TV series The Office, artificial intelligence and other subjects, she wrote: "I realized that I was no longer able to stand people. Not even rationalists anymore. And I would live the rest of my life completely alone, hiding my reaction to anyone it was useful to interact with. I had given up my ability to see beauty so I could see evil."
Other themes included veganism – total avoidance of any animal food or products – and anarchism.
In 2019 Lasota and three others were arrested while holding a protest outside an event held by a rationalist organisation. The last posts on her blog date from around this time.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy83958r2d0o
Quote from: DJChameleon on Feb 21, 2025, 01:08 PMbeing vegan makes you go insane and people shouldn't do that silly diet.
Hitler was a Vegetarian
'Zizian' suspect in attempted murder case claims officers are trying to kill her (https://www.courthousenews.com/zizian-suspect-in-attempted-murder-case-claims-officers-are-trying-to-kill-her/)QuoteFAIRFIELD, Calif. (CN) — Alexander Jeffrey Leatham, a 29-year-old transgender woman charged with the 2022 attempted murder of her Vallejo landlord, had to be forcibly restrained and removed after she disrupted courtroom proceedings on Tuesday, shouting what seemed to be a prepared statement claiming she fears for her life in police custody.
"I am not suicidal. I have never been suicidal. If I am killed in police custody, it was murder!" Leatham shouted.
Leatham — a reported member of the "Zizians," a loose, cult-like organization of radical vegans and computer savants who claim artificial intelligence is a danger to humanity and are linked to six murders across the country — was led onto the courtroom floor in chains by multiple armed officers from the Solano County Sheriff's Department.