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Title: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 19, 2023, 02:52 AM
After the dog wanking debacle, I thought I'd post this thread. What controversial or unpopular opinions do you have?

Disclaimer: post your views but keep it respectful, thanks.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lexi of the Dawn on May 19, 2023, 03:07 AM
Tomatoes are awful on sandwiches and at the very least should not come as default at most restaurants.

Batman is the only cool superhero.

There are too many pokemon and they should really stop making more of them.

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 19, 2023, 02:52 PM
I agree with the first one but I like BLTs so other than BLTs tomatoes are shit on sandwiches imo.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 03:20 PM
Going to the beach is boring. Don't get me wrong, I like the ocean, I like seaside towns, I like driving along the coast, but I don't understand how anyone enjoys just hanging out on the beach all day.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Shhon on May 19, 2023, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 19, 2023, 03:07 AMThere are too many pokemon and they should really stop making more of them.


:laughing: 
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 19, 2023, 06:00 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 03:20 PMGoing to the beach is boring. Don't get me wrong, I like the ocean, I like seaside towns, I like driving along the coast, but I don't understand how anyone enjoys just hanging out on the beach all day.

Did you grow up near the coast? Beaches seem ideal to me. But I grew up as far away from a beach as you can get over here.

Agree not for a full day though.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 06:12 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 19, 2023, 06:00 PMDid you grow up near the coast? Beaches seem ideal to me. But I grew up as far away from a beach as you can get over here.

Agree not for a full day though.

I grew up a short drive from the beach and spent a lot of time there when I was growing up.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 21, 2023, 03:45 PM
95% of babies are ugly. They look like old grandmas and grandpas. I don't find them cute and when people shove their seed into my face like I'm supposed to compliment them on how cute their baby is I just have to bite my tongue every single time.

I feel like babies don't turn out to be cute until later on when they grow into their looks/face a bit more. So in the toddler age 16-24 months range imo.

90% of US Beaches are shit and I will never go to them. This is coming from personal bias I know because I'm spoiled with Caribbean beaches and they can't compare at all. The beaches in the Key West are the only ones that come close to being able to compare but any other beaches I will not go into that water and I don't even like the sand associated with them especially East Coast beaches. I don't know what they do with the sand but it's always kind of dark muddy looking and just blah not worth the time.  I want to be able to put my feet in the water and actually see my feet clearly it needs to also have a nice blue shade I'm super picky about my beaches.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 21, 2023, 03:52 PM
I want to see feet on beaches too mate I know what you mean.

My friend just had a son and he said to me "he's so ugly he's cute"  :laughing:

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lexi of the Dawn on May 21, 2023, 03:53 PM
I'm fine with a nice day at the beach and relaxing in the sun, maybe taking a nice romantic stroll through the shallow water. But like hell I'm ever going to actually go swimming there. It's been a super long time since I've been to one though.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on May 27, 2023, 08:35 AM
I feel like I may have posted this before, but oh well.

I think private schools should be abolished. If the rich send their kids to better private schools, it creates distance between an elite of kids / young people who need to have no contact with or understand the lives of the less fortunate. They get much more opportunity to get good positions / jobs / roles in society, becoming or staying rich and sending their own kids to private school which then adds to a feedback system propping up and isolating the elite class. It removes incentives for rich people to put resources into public schools where it might benefit all.

It's kinda perverse, really.

In Norway, education is free and most kids go to public schools (including rich people's kids). Most private schools have religious agendas (!). I understand how it's important that they have a place of their own where they can warp a child's sense of reality.

Or, you know.. better to just get rid of them altogether.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 01:34 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on May 27, 2023, 08:35 AMI feel like I may have posted this before, but oh well.

I think private schools should be abolished. If the rich send their kids to better private schools, it creates distance between an elite of kids / young people who need to have no contact with or understand the lives of the less fortunate. They get much more opportunity to get good positions / jobs / roles in society, becoming or staying rich and sending their own kids to private school which then adds to a feedback system propping up and isolating the elite class. It removes incentives for rich people to put resources into public schools where it might benefit all.

It's kinda perverse, really.

In Norway, education is free and most kids go to public schools (including rich people's kids). Most private schools have religious agendas (!). I understand how it's important that they have a place of their own where they can warp a child's sense of reality.

Or, you know.. better to just get rid of them altogether.

I would say I pretty much agree with you. I don't know how it is over there, but charter schools and vouchers for private schools are really fucking up the educational system over here.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on May 27, 2023, 02:47 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 01:34 PMI would say I pretty much agree with you. I don't know how it is over there, but charter schools and vouchers for private schools are really fucking up the educational system over here.

It's not as bad here and the problem is a little different. It doesn't divide rich and poor so much, but more religious people from others. Religion has little space in the public school system, so there are Christian private schools for those who want more indoctrination. The weird thing is the content of their curriculums still has to be empirically based by law and so the law kinda puts a limit on indoctrination. At least it does so in theory, but then there's a lack of oversight.

Christianity has been fighting a losing battle in Norwegian society for a long time, but these Christian private schools have been on the increase. I guess they're a relatively effective strategy.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lisnaholic on May 27, 2023, 04:23 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 03:20 PMGoing to the beach is boring. Don't get me wrong, I like the ocean, I like seaside towns, I like driving along the coast, but I don't understand how anyone enjoys just hanging out on the beach all day.

Any beach is so exciting when you're a kid with a bucket and spade, so like most of us, I have some happy memories of days at the beach, but yeah, when you grow up a beach has a lot less to offer by way of entertainment, and I have spent some seriously dull hours stretched out, squinting at some supposedly idyllic scene.
Now I know my Goldilocks Zone for a beach: not too much flat sand, but not so rocky that it stops you walking along the shoreline; it has to be just right:

(https://media.timeout.com/images/103394443/750/562/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 19, 2023, 03:20 PMGoing to the beach is boring. Don't get me wrong, I like the ocean, I like seaside towns, I like driving along the coast, but I don't understand how anyone enjoys just hanging out on the beach all day.

with a good book and some tunes the sea is the perfect meditative background to a lazy day - especially when it's cool out but not freezing

if you can spend a full day with literature and music why not do it with a beautiful view


Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:39 PMwith a good book and some tunes the sea is the perfect meditative background to a lazy day - especially when it's cool out but not freezing

if you can spend a full day with literature and music why not do it with a beautiful view

I've never found a comfortable way to read at the beach and I'm not going to play music there because I think it's an obnoxious thing to do in public.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 05:53 PM
Fully agree about the public music wankers.

Summer here now so there are plenty of them about.

'Ooh, look at me! Everybody please notice the sort of music I listen to!'

Cunts.

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:54 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on May 27, 2023, 08:35 AMI feel like I may have posted this before, but oh well.

I think private schools should be abolished. If the rich send their kids to better private schools, it creates distance between an elite of kids / young people who need to have no contact with or understand the lives of the less fortunate. They get much more opportunity to get good positions / jobs / roles in society, becoming or staying rich and sending their own kids to private school which then adds to a feedback system propping up and isolating the elite class. It removes incentives for rich people to put resources into public schools where it might benefit all.

It's kinda perverse, really.

In Norway, education is free and most kids go to public schools (including rich people's kids). Most private schools have religious agendas (!). I understand how it's important that they have a place of their own where they can warp a child's sense of reality.

Or, you know.. better to just get rid of them altogether.

private and public schools should be abolished or at least reformed so profoundly that the current incarnation would be unrecognizable

i'm real big on this next one though: school should never be compulsory

compulsory is education is the state saying we have the right to kidnap your children for 7.5 hours five days a week 30 something weeks a year for 16 years

how that goes relatively unchallenged blows my mind

once the compulsory component is abolished parents that force school on their children should be punished for child abuse

that said, in the window of reality i totally agree private schools should be abolished- schools also shouldn't be funded with property taxes (obviously) and minorities, especially blacks, should have access to free public SEGREGATED schools with no interference from white people concerning curriculum or discipline
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:56 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 05:51 PMI've never found a comfortable way to read at the beach and I'm not going to play music there because I think it's an obnoxious thing to do in public.

headphones and a towel

goddamn son it's not the 1970's



Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:59 PM
next one: expensive speakers are stupid - good noise canceling headphones sound way better than any speaker ever invented including the ones bands use for live shows and in clubs

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 05:53 PMFully agree about the public music wankers.

Summer here now so there are plenty of them about.

'Ooh, look at me! Everybody please notice the sort of music I listen to!'

Cunts.



my house constantly shakes from car stereos

even at like 8 in the morning

black people are fucking loud
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 05:53 PMFully agree about the public music wankers.

Summer here now so there are plenty of them about.

'Ooh, look at me! Everybody please notice the sort of music I listen to!'

Cunts.

I've run to those people hiking sometimes, which always seems especially ridiculous.


Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 05:56 PMheadphones and a towel

goddamn son it's not the 1970's

One of the few nice things about the beach is the sound of the crashing waves, so the idea of wearing headphones there is unappealing. Trying to read while lying on a towel is uncomfortable, and before you say it, so is reading in a beach chair.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:22 PM
QuoteOne of the few nice things about the beach is the sound of the crashing waves, so the idea of wearing headphones there is unappealing. Trying to read while lying on a towel is uncomfortable, and before you say it, so is reading in a beach chair.

fact on missing out on crashing waves but if it's all day i can dig taking turns on the sounds

fair enough on the reading thing - it's not a problem for me but i ain't you

about hiking - i had a person i ran into make a comment about me listening to my walkman trying to lecture me on missing out on the experience

i was like the reason for the hike is new scenery to enjoy my music in

i still enjoy the nature sounds but fuck it i also love music - i should've said "fuck you thoreau" i was so much easier going back then - today i would be like dafuq and ready to cap 😂

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:26 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:22 PMfact on missing out on crashing waves but if it's all day i can dig taking turns on the sounds

fair enough on the reading thing - it's not a problem for me but i ain't you

about hiking - i had a person i ran into make a comment about me listening to my walkman trying to lecture me on missing out on the experience

i was like the reason for the hike is new scenery to enjoy my music in

i still enjoy the nature sounds but fuck it i also love music - i should've said "fuck you thoreau" i was so much easier going back then - today i would be like dafuq and ready to cap 😂

That's weird. I don't understand why anyone would be bothered by someone else wearing headphones.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lisnaholic on May 27, 2023, 06:30 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:06 PMTrying to read while lying on a towel is uncomfortable, and before you say it, so is reading in a beach chair.

Problem solved ;) (https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BWBMBR/discarded-armchair-on-the-shores-of-the-salton-sea-bombay-beach-southern-BWBMBR.jpg)

Yeah, I've never gone the walkman music route in any circumstance: beach, hike, even train commute to work - I prefer to be alert to the sounds around me, like a wary animal. Especially if you're engrossed in a book, it's good to keep your ears open at least.

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 06:36 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:26 PMThat's weird. I don't understand why anyone would be bothered by someone else wearing headphones.

I think people look like dicks when they wear big ones in public round their necks. Especially if they're Beats and they're wearing them as a fashion statement.

Also the types to be public music wankers too.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:43 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 06:36 PMI think people look like dicks when they wear big ones in public round their necks. Especially if they're Beats and they're wearing them as a fashion statement.

Also the types to be public music wankers too.

i wear big ass sony ones

they're always on my ears though

it's definitely not a statement - i like listening to music basically all the time

beats sound like shit btw - nothing but bass - no midrange no treble
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:48 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:26 PMThat's weird. I don't understand why anyone would be bothered by someone else wearing headphones.

tbh i think he probably only got out into the woods once a year and assumed everyone else was equally strapped to their miserable suburban experience

he felt like what he was doing was a profound detachment which is fine but who fucks with people when they should be enjoying nature besides serial killers



Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 06:50 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:43 PMi wear big ass sony ones

they're always on my ears though

it's definitely not a statement - i like listening to music basically all the time

beats sound like shit btw - nothing but bass - no midrange no treble


I know it's not a fashion statement in your case, you told us what you usually wear and fashion seems like the last thing on our mind.

I've got Sennheiser HD 599. Open back. Best ones I've ever used.

Wouldn't wear any headphones in public. I've got some wireless ear buds Honor sent me, they're fucking great but I'm not walking around in public where I can't hear my surroundings. I dunno how people do it.

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:52 PM
QuoteYeah, I've never gone the walkman music route in any circumstance: beach, hike, even train commute to work - I prefer to be alert to the sounds around me, like a wary animal. Especially if you're engrossed in a book, it's good to keep your ears open at least.

i've heard that before- and from people that said you need to be able to hear when you cycle through the city

hearing all that hoopla just makes me jumpy

blocking everything else helps me relax

overreacting to every sound is more of a problem for me than the risk of something really happening
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 06:57 PM
Quote from: Lisnaholic on May 27, 2023, 06:30 PMProblem solved ;) (https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BWBMBR/discarded-armchair-on-the-shores-of-the-salton-sea-bombay-beach-southern-BWBMBR.jpg)

Yeah, I've never gone the walkman music route in any circumstance: beach, hike, even train commute to work - I prefer to be alert to the sounds around me, like a wary animal. Especially if you're engrossed in a book, it's good to keep your ears open at least.

Haha, nice beach chair!

I guess I'm the opposite in terms of headphones. I wear them pretty much anytime I walk anywhere.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 27, 2023, 06:58 PM
QuoteSennheiser HD 599

i need bluetooth even though i admit it doesn't sound as good

i dealt with wires for 35 years


Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 07:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 06:50 PMWouldn't wear any headphones in public. I've got some wireless ear buds Honor sent me, they're fucking great but I'm not walking around in public where I can't hear my surroundings. I dunno how people do it.

I can hear my surroundings while I'm wearing my ear buds.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 07:06 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 07:00 PMI can hear my surroundings while I'm wearing my ear buds.

Are they shit ear buds? Or do you have the volume on almost silent?
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 07:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 27, 2023, 07:06 PMAre they shit ear buds? Or do you have the volume on almost silent?

They're $20 wired Sony earbuds. The quality is pretty good for what they are. I don't have them almost silent but I also don't blast them. I'm not saying I can hear as well as I could without them in, but I can hear well enough to not get hit by a car.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 29, 2023, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Janszoon on May 27, 2023, 05:51 PMI've never found a comfortable way to read at the beach and I'm not going to play music there because I think it's an obnoxious thing to do in public.

Playing music in public at a beach is fine. I feel like that's just an insecurity or something on your part.

I play whatever the fuck I'm in the mood for in public and don't care what others around me think. I don't see it as making them suffer by having to hear my music taste or whatever. I just wanna hear certain songs and will listen to it loudly fuck outta here.

The only time when it becomes obnoxious is when it happens late at night when people are trying to sleep and have to work the next day but at a beach I think that's fine.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lexi of the Dawn on May 29, 2023, 10:09 AM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I actually find it very obnoxious to be subjected to somebody's loud music in public. If it's being piped over the radio by the property that's whatever, that can't really be helped. But if it's some rando blasting it, then I think I have a right to find what they're doing to be annoying and inconsiderate. And that even applies to music I normally like.

I have two main modes when it comes to listening to music.

If the mister is here, that's the time to put in the earbuds and listen to serene, ambient or low key music, or if it's more full sounding I'll at least play it at a low volume. I do this so I can always hear him easily if he needs to get my attention.

The minute he leaves for work at 8:00 AM, it's all the loud obnoxious stuff, just full on death metal and hardcore, forget the earbuds, forget the neighbors, crank that shit.

And honestly I'm rarely in a situation where I even want to listen to music while I'm in public, earphones or not. But of course that's just me.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 29, 2023, 11:20 AM
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 29, 2023, 08:20 AMPlaying music in public at a beach is fine. I feel like that's just an insecurity or something on your part.

I play whatever the fuck I'm in the mood for in public and don't care what others around me think. I don't see it as making them suffer by having to hear my music taste or whatever. I just wanna hear certain songs and will listen to it loudly fuck outta here.

The only time when it becomes obnoxious is when it happens late at night when people are trying to sleep and have to work the next day but at a beach I think that's fine.

Insecurity? :laughing: No, playing music out loud in public is obnoxious, so I don't do. It's pretty simple. I will say, doing it at the beach is less obnoxious than doing it in the waiting room at a doctor's office, which I've actually experienced before. I would hope you would at least not do it in that context.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Marie Monday on May 29, 2023, 12:04 PM
Yep it's obnoxious af when people do that, sorry. If headphones didn't exist I'd have some sympathy for it, but as it is there's no justification. And I think you vastly underestimate how much hearing loud music disturbs others
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 29, 2023, 01:16 PM
someone doing that better be in a big group or you'll get your fucking ass stomped
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on May 29, 2023, 04:02 PM
Poor DJ 😅

But yes, listening to music in public is obnoxious - the louder the worse, of course.

A beach being crowded is almost certain to ruin most of the enjoyment for me, so I/we generally try to find places where it's just us. That's nearly impossible or unfeasible in Oslo, but where we live, it's not too hard.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 29, 2023, 04:27 PM
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 29, 2023, 08:20 AMI play whatever the fuck I'm in the mood for in public and don't care what others around me think. I don't see it as making them suffer by having to hear my music taste or whatever. I just wanna hear certain songs and will listen to it loudly fuck outta here.

You don't see how this comes across as having no consideration for others?


Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 30, 2023, 12:15 AM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 29, 2023, 04:27 PMYou don't see how this comes across as having no consideration for others?




Nope not really. I'll just have to agree to disagree. If you are at a beach just chilling play whatever tunes you want. Playing music in public is fine. If someone doesn't want to hear it they can clearly move or put in headphones to block it out.

Now doing it in a Dr's office waiting room is obnoxious but at a beach no way. I feel like you guys are a bit uptight on this issue.

It's not the same as those people that walk around with their bluetooth speakers blasting music on the subway or public transportation like on a bus. I get how that's annoying but public on a beach or in a park is totally fine imo.

I have my headphones most of the time other places.

Do y'all also drive in silence or only play music at low volumes with the windows up too when you are driving?

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 30, 2023, 12:28 AM
You can play music in a car that's loud enough for you and the passengers to hear but not so loud that everyone going past can hear it too. If it falls into the latter then that's obnoxious.

Park or beach is lower down on the cuntometer but still registers. Public transport, shopping centres, walking down the street, driving in residential areas = extreme cuntishness.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 30, 2023, 12:39 AM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 30, 2023, 12:28 AMYou can play music in a car that's loud enough for you and the passengers to hear but not so loud that everyone going past can hear it too. If it falls into the latter then that's obnoxious.

Park or beach is lower down on the cuntometer but still registers. Public transport, shopping centres, walking down the street, driving in residential areas = extreme cuntishness.

tbh here the beach has areas where no one is likely to be around and other spots that are really crowded

the crowded spots are obviously for bikini watching and partying so yeah if i'm there just to watch titties bounce around kids blasting music is to be expected but nobody is on that tip in the isolated spots

but if it's like miami beach where there is no escape from people then making more of a ruckus than necessary is unfair and like i said if you're not in a big group good luck
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Jwb on May 30, 2023, 12:46 AM
 
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 21, 2023, 03:45 PM95% of babies are ugly. They look like old grandmas and grandpas. I don't find them cute and when people shove their seed into my face like I'm supposed to compliment them on how cute their baby is I just have to bite my tongue every single time.

I feel like babies don't turn out to be cute until later on when they grow into their looks/face a bit more. So in the toddler age 16-24 months range imo.

90% of US Beaches are shit and I will never go to them. This is coming from personal bias I know because I'm spoiled with Caribbean beaches and they can't compare at all. The beaches in the Key West are the only ones that come close to being able to compare but any other beaches I will not go into that water and I don't even like the sand associated with them especially East Coast beaches. I don't know what they do with the sand but it's always kind of dark muddy looking and just blah not worth the time.  I want to be able to put my feet in the water and actually see my feet clearly it needs to also have a nice blue shade I'm super picky about my beaches.
i would rather go to the beach on the carolina coast where at least there are some waves than go to Miami or the keys. Unless you're like snorkling or something.  The carribean style beaches look a lot nicer but at least in south Florida the waves are shit and if I'm going in the ocean to me i would rather have waves. 
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 30, 2023, 02:09 AM
Quote from: Jwb on May 30, 2023, 12:46 AMi would rather go to the beach on the carolina coast where at least there are some waves than go to Miami or the keys. Unless you're like snorkling or something.  The carribean style beaches look a lot nicer but at least in south Florida the waves are shit and if I'm going in the ocean to me i would rather have waves. 

Do you surf? Why do you need waves?
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 30, 2023, 02:15 AM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 30, 2023, 12:28 AMYou can play music in a car that's loud enough for you and the passengers to hear but not so loud that everyone going past can hear it too. If it falls into the latter then that's obnoxious.

Park or beach is lower down on the cuntometer but still registers. Public transport, shopping centres, walking down the street, driving in residential areas = extreme cuntishness.

This. When I'm on the highway or some boulevard and there's no captive audience, nobody is going to hear what I'm listening to. When I'm in a residential area with a lot of houses around, I turn the volume down.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Jwb on May 30, 2023, 02:15 AM
I will body surf if the waves are good enough.  I would love to learn to surf but I've never had a surf board and tbh like i said the waves in south Florida are shit.

But if i just want clear water I'll go in the pool.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 31, 2023, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Jwb on May 30, 2023, 02:15 AMI will body surf if the waves are good enough.  I would love to learn to surf but I've never had a surf board and tbh like i said the waves in south Florida are shit.

But if i just want clear water I'll go in the pool.

Nah I don't think I want to learn to surf but I'm fine with paddle boarding. I just had a similar conversation the other day about surfing in general. So if I'm going to a beach waves are not a must imo.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Jwb on May 31, 2023, 03:27 AM
Other than the waves i don't get why you would even swim in the ocean lol.  It's nasty sticky salt water which is always potentially hiding a prehistoric apex predator that could grab you at any moment.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 31, 2023, 05:19 AM
Quote from: Jwb on May 31, 2023, 03:27 AMOther than the waves i don't get why you would even swim in the ocean lol.  It's nasty sticky salt water which is always potentially hiding a prehistoric apex predator that could grab you at any moment.

I'm West Indian and family members pretty much preach the benefits of going into the salt water for different things like to heal your body is certain ways. idk but I just like it and was raised that way. I definitely prefer swimming in the ocean as opposed to swimming in a pool.

Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 30, 2023, 12:28 AMYou can play music in a car that's loud enough for you and the passengers to hear but not so loud that everyone going past can hear it too. If it falls into the latter then that's obnoxious.

Park or beach is lower down on the cuntometer but still registers. Public transport, shopping centres, walking down the street, driving in residential areas = extreme cuntishness.

See when I'm at home which most people would blast their music in the comfort of their own home. I don't.

I live in an apartment building with a family that lives upstairs that don't give a fuck and always blasting their music and they have a little girl that's always stomping on the floor. Only recently have I started to fight back a bit and hit a broom against the ceiling but I just generally put up with it as a fact of living in a middle apartment. I'm on the 2nd floor. At home I'm always wearing headphones when I listen to music and I keep my tv sound down relatively low because I'm considerate even if they aren't to me. I also watch tv with subtitles on so I can understand what's going on. that's how low I keep my tv sometimes I can barely hear it myself.  You would think I'm a model neighbor not being loud but of course they are backwards and think I'm weird for being quiet and considerate. 

So when I'm out in public like driving I will blast my music and not give two shits where I'm driving plus I live in a city so there is always someone blasting music especially during the summer months at all hours of the night. I would also blast my music solo dolo at a beach no matter the conditions of the beach if it was crowded or secluded and only a few people there. Mostly because I hardly ever get to listen to my music properly unless I'm out in public.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on May 31, 2023, 05:25 AM
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Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 31, 2023, 11:29 AM
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 31, 2023, 05:19 AMSee when I'm at home which most people would blast their music in the comfort of their own home. I don't.

I live in an apartment building with a family that lives upstairs that don't give a fuck and always blasting their music and they have a little girl that's always stomping on the floor. Only recently have I started to fight back a bit and hit a broom against the ceiling but I just generally put up with it as a fact of living in a middle apartment. I'm on the 2nd floor. At home I'm always wearing headphones when I listen to music and I keep my tv sound down relatively low because I'm considerate even if they aren't to me. I also watch tv with subtitles on so I can understand what's going on. that's how low I keep my tv sometimes I can barely hear it myself.  You would think I'm a model neighbor not being loud but of course they are backwards and think I'm weird for being quiet and considerate. 

So when I'm out in public like driving I will blast my music and not give two shits where I'm driving plus I live in a city so there is always someone blasting music especially during the summer months at all hours of the night. I would also blast my music solo dolo at a beach no matter the conditions of the beach if it was crowded or secluded and only a few people there. Mostly because I hardly ever get to listen to my music properly unless I'm out in public.

I hear you on the city living. When I first moved to Philly, I had a neighbor who used to practice trumpet on the other side of my bedroom wall at like 1am. At the next place I lived, my downstairs neighbor used to blast gospel music on Sunday mornings. These days I live in a rowhome, so there's no one above or below me, but I do share walls with neighbors on either side. Because of that, I really can't blast music or anything. I'm lucky because the house on one side of me has been empty for the past couple years and the people in the other house are pretty quiet, but in years past the people on both sides were pretty noisy. The other issue I run into is that I live on a very narrow one way street, so when vehicles pass by they're like 5-6 feet from my living room windows. If someone blasting music stops in the street for a while, which happens a few times a day, I have to pause whatever I'm watching because I can't hear my TV. The other issue with the narrow street is that the neighbor across from me likes to hang out with friends on her front steps listening to music and having loud conversations all of which I can hear loud and clear in both my living room and my bedroom. She used do that basically any time between 7am and 1am, but she's at least chilled out on the late nights in the past few years.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on May 31, 2023, 04:37 PM
Quote from: Jwb on May 31, 2023, 03:27 AMOther than the waves i don't get why you would even swim in the ocean lol.  It's nasty sticky salt water which is always potentially hiding a prehistoric apex predator that could grab you at any moment.

I guess it depends on where you are, but here I basically think the other way around.

Fresh and clear, salty water is something I much prefer to stagnant pools and still bodies of water, even if it's a bit colder (which is usually the case). Inland lakes are often quite nasty. You can jump in, but don't let your feet touch the bottom or it'll suck at your toes. Or you'll crunch through the ribcage of a drowned elk. As for private pools, well.. You forget to treat it with chlorine and you'll be up to your nostrils in E-coli and worse.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on May 31, 2023, 05:47 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on May 31, 2023, 04:37 PMOr you'll crunch through the ribcage of a drowned elk.

Welp, now I know what sort of nightmare I'll be having tonight.  :laughing:
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 05:55 PM
swimming in the sea is good for you

i'm pretty scared of it though

the drone footage of how many sharks are out there locally is intimidating to me plus once the current grabs you yikes

it's been a while but i plan on swimming in the sea some this summer

i mean it's a part of life

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 31, 2023, 05:59 PM
I'm scared of it as well a bit but that's because I'm a very shit swimmer. I really struggle.

I've nearly drowned in a public swimming pool. I got all my swimming badges up to 25 metres in school but it took me forever to get them.

I'd probably walk around up to my waist in the sea, if I got in trouble I'd be fucked.

Athletically I've always been very good but never swimming so I don't know if it's technique or what.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 06:14 PM
QuoteI'd probably walk around up to my waist in the sea, if I got in trouble I'd be fucked.

you can still swim in that depth but it can change really quickly

i don't fuck with going out where your feet can touch the bottom

i used to go way out there but that stopped years ago

rivers will fuck your ass up too

i'm more afraid of gators than sharks

i will NOT swim in fresh water here

kids swing out and drop in the middle of the river where gators are definitely living

nope



even if it's been years since anyone was attacked around here idgaf

shark attacks happen like once every other summer and gator attacks are like every twenty years

but gators just fuck up my mind

and sharks will take a chunk out of you and be like nah gators spin your ass around drown you tenderize you and eat your balls while you're still fighting




Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Psy-Fi on May 31, 2023, 07:45 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 06:14 PMgators spin your ass around drown you tenderize you and eat your balls while you're still fighting

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Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jadis on May 31, 2023, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Jwb on May 31, 2023, 03:27 AMOther than the waves i don't get why you would even swim in the ocean lol.  It's nasty sticky salt water which is always potentially hiding a prehistoric apex predator that could grab you at any moment.

You're from Florida too?

I love feeling the power of the waves on my body, how they crash on you and can pull you in if you're not careful. Something pretty hypnotic about it.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Marie Monday on May 31, 2023, 09:48 PM
^this

In the sea I only go as far as my feet can still touch the ground comfortably, but I love feeling the violence of the waves. This summer a single wave knocked over and scrambled me like a washing machine and I was limping for a day after, 10/10 top experience

In general I don't bother with swimming unless it's in natural water. But I'm Dutch so I'm spoiled in that regard (I'm also from a particularly watery area even by Dutch standards); not having good natural swimming water within walking distance at all times has been one of the greatest culture shocks for me
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: SGR on May 31, 2023, 10:07 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 05:55 PMswimming in the sea is good for you

i'm pretty scared of it though

the drone footage of how many sharks are out there locally is intimidating to me plus once the current grabs you yikes

it's been a while but i plan on swimming in the sea some this summer

i mean it's a part of life



Did you catch this story? A young 18 year old guy jumped off a cruise ship somewhere in the Bahamas on a dare - and then swam away from the life preserver they threw down for him - it's looking like a shark got him. They've got some aggressive sharks in that area (bull shark/tiger shark):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143937/Shadowy-image-water-near-baseball-star-explain-swam-AWAY-life-preserver.html
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: SGR on May 31, 2023, 10:09 PM
Quote from: Marie Monday on May 31, 2023, 09:48 PM^this

In the sea I only go as far as my feet can still touch the ground comfortably, but I love feeling the violence of the waves. This summer a single wave knocked over and scrambled me like a washing machine and I was limping for a day after, 10/10 top experience

In general I don't bother with swimming unless it's in natural water. But I'm Dutch so I'm spoiled in that regard (I'm also from a particularly watery area even by Dutch standards); not having good natural swimming water within walking distance at all times has been one of the greatest culture shocks for me


I occasionally swim in the ocean, but for my wife and I, just the experience of walking the beach near the shoreline is an incredibly relaxing experience. Seeing the seagulls tromping around, hearing the waves crash and recede, seeing the boats speed by, etc. My wife loves collecting seashells and looking for sand dollars. I just really like beach walks and letting my mind zone out.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 10:38 PM
Quote from: SGR on May 31, 2023, 10:07 PMDid you catch this story? A young 18 year old guy jumped off a cruise ship somewhere in the Bahamas on a dare - and then swam away from the life preserver they threw down for him - it's looking like a shark got him. They've got some aggressive sharks in that area (bull shark/tiger shark):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143937/Shadowy-image-water-near-baseball-star-explain-swam-AWAY-life-preserver.html

i think that was a dolphin

i don't think he was eaten i think he drowned

i also think the average iq of his graduating class went up a few points
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on May 31, 2023, 10:40 PM
Last line ffs :laughing:

RIP tho
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: SGR on May 31, 2023, 11:13 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 10:38 PMi think that was a dolphin

i don't think he was eaten i think he drowned

i also think the average iq of his graduating class went up a few points

I don't pretend to be a shark/porpoise expert, but the way that the fish (or mammal) quickly thrashed in the water made me think shark.

Also, at least he'll go out knowing that, unlike the rest of his graduating class, he wasn't a pussy. :laughing:
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 11:36 PM
Quote from: SGR on May 31, 2023, 11:13 PMI don't pretend to be a shark/porpoise expert, but the way that the fish (or mammal) quickly thrashed in the water made me think shark.

Also, at least he'll go out knowing that, unlike the rest of his graduating class, he wasn't a pussy. :laughing:

he got wet and eaten like one though
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: SGR on May 31, 2023, 11:56 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 31, 2023, 11:36 PMhe got wet and eaten like one though

 :laughing:

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on Jun 01, 2023, 12:43 AM
I love the sea and swimming in it 🙂

I've always lived close to the sea and was boating around on my own as a kid and spent hours and hours fishing, often on my own. I honestly don't understand how my parents would let me. I'm thankful for it, though.

When we were teenagers, we'd sometimes take the boat out at around midnight to pick edible crabs off the reefs. I love marine invertebrates and love to catch crabs and shrimps etc. with the kids.

Just being on a boat, feeling the waves, the spray, hearing the seagulls, the taste of the saltwater. Going for a cold swim, then lying down on a reef warmed by the sun. All this stuff is like magically comforting.

I want the ocean to be my final resting place ❤️
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Psy-Fi on Jun 01, 2023, 12:21 PM
Quote from: SGR on May 31, 2023, 10:07 PMDid you catch this story? A young 18 year old guy jumped off a cruise ship somewhere in the Bahamas on a dare - and then swam away from the life preserver they threw down for him - it's looking like a shark got him. They've got some aggressive sharks in that area (bull shark/tiger shark):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143937/Shadowy-image-water-near-baseball-star-explain-swam-AWAY-life-preserver.html

That qualifies for a 2023 Darwin Award.

Darwin Awards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards)
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jadis on Jun 01, 2023, 02:36 PM
Quote from: Marie Monday on May 31, 2023, 09:48 PM^this

In the sea I only go as far as my feet can still touch the ground comfortably, but I love feeling the violence of the waves. This summer a single wave knocked over and scrambled me like a washing machine and I was limping for a day after, 10/10 top experience

In general I don't bother with swimming unless it's in natural water. But I'm Dutch so I'm spoiled in that regard (I'm also from a particularly watery area even by Dutch standards); not having good natural swimming water within walking distance at all times has been one of the greatest culture shocks for me


As usual, Marie understands me

I wonder if you guys ever get the kind of sun in northern Europe as in the Mediterranean, where it's so intense, esp when reflected through the dark of the water, that all you can think of is death. Like in that Camus book... "Le soleil tombait presque d'aplomb sur le sable et son éclat sur la mer était insoutenable"
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on Jun 01, 2023, 05:07 PM
^A sun so intense all I can think of is death 🤔

I can't relate to that, but I think the sea (and maybe nature in general) has a way of whisking away cares, like a tiny, temporary ego death. You've left the environment where you have to worry about bills and work and clothes for the kids. You hear the sound of the sea and the boat, feel the sun, the wind and perhaps the spray. It's so much more a world for the senses than the usual daily human interests.

I think of death in relation to the sea, but always as a comforting thing. My latest single was about drowning at sea and then getting to spend an afterlife in this magical place at the bottom of the ocean among sea creatures 😄
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jun 01, 2023, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Marie Monday on May 31, 2023, 09:48 PMThis summer a single wave knocked over and scrambled me like a washing machine and I was limping for a day after, 10/10 top experience

 :laughing:
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Psy-Fi on Jun 01, 2023, 11:49 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jun 01, 2023, 05:07 PMMy latest single was about drowning at sea and then getting to spend an afterlife in this magical place at the bottom of the ocean among sea creatures 😄

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Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on Jun 01, 2023, 11:58 PM
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jun 01, 2023, 11:49 PM
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^Could be a bikini bottom, though to be honest I was more inspired by Lovecraft 😄

The song is upbeat and positive, though.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 12:55 AM
Controversial opinion: QR code menus are a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 02:27 AM
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 12:55 AMControversial opinion: QR code menus are a pain in the ass.

had to google
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 03:02 AM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 02:27 AMhad to google

Are they not a thing where you are?
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lexi of the Dawn on Jun 02, 2023, 03:43 AM
We've never run into those up here. The only reason we ever eat out anymore is for the occasional romantic date night, I can definitely imagine how that would break the atmosphere for me. But yeah, I've never encountered one. What about it do you think is a pain?
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 04:46 AM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jun 02, 2023, 03:43 AMWhat about it do you think is a pain?

It just makes everything take longer. Tonight, when I posted that, I was just trying to order a beer at a local bar that was low on stock and the QR code just made it a pain to scan through the beer list. When I was staying in Spain last year, I frequently had bad cell service so the simple act of looking at a menu was transformed into an arduous wait for the thing to load.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 06:41 AM
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 03:02 AMAre they not a thing where you are?

idk
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Psy-Fi on Jun 02, 2023, 12:25 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 12:55 AMControversial opinion: QR code menus are a pain in the ass.

This is from June of 2021 but still relevant...

Bring Back Menus! (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/06/bring-back-menus-end-qr-codes.html)
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 01:47 PM
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jun 02, 2023, 12:25 PMThis is from June of 2021 but still relevant...

Bring Back Menus! (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/06/bring-back-menus-end-qr-codes.html)

i've never seen that but i wouldn't be going back

is it only expensive places that do that

that looks so fucking annoying

dafuq i need MY phone to order THEIR food

i don't even go to places that make you order at a stand and sit down with a number

bitch, i sit down you come to me, if i wanted to stand in line i'd buy fucking groceries

i'm going out and paying means someone else does the fucking work

i'm tired i'm sitting down and i'm not figuring out how some goddamn code scanner works either

i can cook motherfuckers

they don't care about my old ass business anyway, i know

Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jun 02, 2023, 01:50 PM
I don't like how techy everything is going. QR codes and shit. Some places online if you want to return something they now do it by QR code that you have to fiddle about with in the site and then show at the post office from your phone which I don't like. Just give me the fucking address to write ON the parcel and post it to, you bastards. Stop making shit complicated. I'm getting worked up now.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jun 02, 2023, 01:52 PM
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 01:47 PMi can cook motherfuckers


🤐
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Toy Revolver on Jun 02, 2023, 01:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jun 02, 2023, 01:52 PM🤐

lol

it pisses me off further this started during covid

if if wasn't safe to touch a menu then the place shouldn't be open in the first place

same with masks at concerts

just don't have the concert if it's dangerous
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Lexi of the Dawn on Jun 02, 2023, 02:00 PM
Quote from: Janszoon on Jun 02, 2023, 04:46 AMIt just makes everything take longer. Tonight, when I posted that, I was just trying to order a beer at a local bar that was low on stock and the QR code just made it a pain to scan through the beer list. When I was staying in Spain last year, I frequently had bad cell service so the simple act of looking at a menu was transformed into an arduous wait for the thing to load.

Ah, I gotcha. That does sound pretty awful. I think the closest thing I've seen is those touchscreen kiosks at our local McDonald's, but at least those aren't dependent on you having a charged smart phone with a working camera and good service.

So many hoops to jump through for something as simple as ordering food.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jadis on Jul 16, 2023, 10:44 PM
Sometimes I'd see a tweet by some conservative on how to fight the scourge of child sex trafficking or Hollywood pedophilia or whatever else they're screaming about and lowkey envy them. They are playing detective and loving it. Who doesn't yearn for some simplicity sometimes... Maybe I too want to mentally regress
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: DJChameleon on Jul 17, 2023, 05:47 PM
Quote from: jadis on Jul 16, 2023, 10:44 PMSometimes I'd see a tweet by some conservative on how to fight the scourge of child sex trafficking or Hollywood pedophilia or whatever else they're screaming about and lowkey envy them. They are playing detective and loving it. Who doesn't yearn for some simplicity sometimes... Maybe I too want to mentally regress

When they tweet about child sex trafficking stuff, they aren't great detectives because they don't even have to go that far to find them within their own party. They are the slowest most ignorant detectives to ever exist.

They are essentially the same skillset detective as Robert Pattison in that new Batman movie that just came out.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: jadis on Jul 17, 2023, 10:30 PM
Yeah they're more defectives than detectives but that's exactly what seems kinda fun
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on Jul 18, 2023, 02:09 AM
I was kinda ready for some Hollywood pedo ring scandal some years back after I saw an interview with Cory Feldman (who got real weird btw) where he said he'd been abused by various people.. he didn't say who, though.

Did anything come of that?
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Janszoon on Jul 18, 2023, 02:11 AM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jul 18, 2023, 02:09 AMI was kinda ready for some Hollywood pedo ring scandal some years back after I saw an interview with Cory Feldman (who got real weird btw) where he said he'd been abused by various people.. he didn't say who, though.

Did anything come of that?

I think Corey Feldman claimed Corey Haim was the one who was abused.
Title: Re: Controversial opinions
Post by: Guybrush on Jul 18, 2023, 02:18 AM
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 18, 2023, 02:11 AMI think Corey Feldman claimed Corey Haim was the one who was abused.

Wasn't it both of them?

Anyways, seemed like something was about to blow up, then nothing. I should look that up.