Every decade since the '50's has had great contributors to the genre of punk. What is your favorite decade?
Thanks for getting the ball rolling.
And now, I go back to whatever it is I do...
The 2000s for me. I grew up on the hardcore, emo, pop punk and metalcore of that decade. Not an objective 'best' judgement, but for my personal taste and music journey it's definitely my sweet spot.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on May 01, 2025, 08:10 PMThe 2000s for me. I grew up on the hardcore, emo, pop punk and metalcore of that decade. Not an objective 'best' judgement, but for my personal taste and music journey it's definitely my sweet spot.
Please name some of the bands from the 2000's. I'm always looking for stuff I haven't heard plus I always like hearing artists that other people like!
I love every decade of punk really hard to pick a "best" by that metric as well. All have their differences.
I will say I'm super partial to 70s punk lately, and the artists that could be classified as "proto-punk" especially are entrancing. A lot of them came into similar sounds at a similar time, much with lots of other innovations in our species, independently in totally opposite corners of the world.
Been into a band like this lately called Andrew Matheson and the Brats, whose album Grown Up Wrong from 1975 mirrors New York Dolls works of the same time, while being from the UK. A lot of it sounds similar to what Bowie, Television, and other glam-stricken acts were doing in the time frame the songs are certainly incredible as well. Love the energy of 70s punk! Snot nosed! Rebellious! Loud and fast but melodic and tuneful!
It's crazy how quickly hardcore happened but punk has so many flavors including that, but it's hard to believe sometimes that hardcore came out of stuff like this originally.
Quote from: tristan_geoff on May 01, 2025, 10:55 PMBeen into a band like this lately called Andrew Matheson and the Brats, whose album Grown Up Wrong from 1975 mirrors New York Dolls works of the same time, while being from the UK. A lot of it sounds similar to what Bowie, Television, and other glam-stricken acts were doing in the time frame the songs are certainly incredible as well. Love the energy of 70s punk! Snot nosed! Rebellious! Loud and fast but melodic and tuneful!
The story of Andrew Matheson and the Hollywood Brats is an interesting one that most people don't know. Your comparison with the NY Dolls is spot on and I would say that the NY Dolls tour of the UK in 1972 was a blueprint for The Hollywood Brats.
Have you read Matheson's book? I'm curious to what is said about Casino Steel and if the book follows his career.
https://www.amazon.com/Sick-You-Disastrous-Story-Britains/dp/0091960436
I have no idea how factual the book is but it sounds like it's right up your alley.
Quote from: Buckeye Randy on May 02, 2025, 09:33 AMThe story of Andrew Matheson and the Hollywood Brats is an interesting one that most people don't know. Your comparison with the NY Dolls is spot on and I would say that the NY Dolls tour of the UK in 1972 was a blueprint for The Hollywood Brats.
Have you read Matheson's book? I'm curious to what is said about Casino Steel and if the book follows his career.
https://www.amazon.com/Sick-You-Disastrous-Story-Britains/dp/0091960436
I have no idea how factual the book is but it sounds like it's right up your alley.
Woah had no idea about this!! Definitely interested in reading :) Thanks for the backstory too, that's cool that NY Dolls may have directly inspired them.
I remember a friend telling me that she and another friend did a lot of research to find if Ramones and Sex Pistols were linked, given Ramones sometimes used british accents and how the Pistols sound was manufactured. She theorized that Vivian Westwood may have given them an advance copy of the Ramones debut to copy, given that it had not been released in the UK yet.
Quote from: tristan_geoff on May 02, 2025, 03:58 PMI remember a friend telling me that she and another friend did a lot of research to find if Ramones and Sex Pistols were linked, given Ramones sometimes used british accents and how the Pistols sound was manufactured. She theorized that Vivian Westwood may have given them an advance copy of the Ramones debut to copy, given that it had not been released in the UK yet.
I would be careful when digesting any info about the Pistols, there are a ton of false narratives out there. Jones, Cook and Matlock were solid then and they still are solid, John Lydon is a force of nature. Don't minimize their only album because of Malcolm, those songs have stood the test of time. I don't think Malcolm was all that smart, he certainly wasn't before or after.
I would recommend reading, 'Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs' by John Lydon. It's an arty read and requires paying attention but there are many collaborators to Johnny's side of the story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten:_No_Irish,_No_Blacks,_No_Dogs
Best book about punk rock, https://www.amazon.com/Please-Kill-Me-Uncensored-History/dp/0802125360
Quote from: Buckeye Randy on May 01, 2025, 08:29 PMPlease name some of the bands from the 2000's. I'm always looking for stuff I haven't heard plus I always like hearing artists that other people like!
Sure! Here's a few classics/favorites/legendary bands, broken down by style/subgenre. Tried to get a good balance of bigger bands and ones of more b- and c- tier popularity.
Hardcore: Comeback Kid, Shai Hulud, Throwdown, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Trash Talk, Converge, Every Time I Die
Pop punk/emo: Saves the Day, The Starting Line, Jimmy Eat World, The Get Up Kids, The Ataris, Midtown, The Juliana Theory
Post hardcore: Finch, Thursday, At the Drive-In, Thrice, Alexisonfire, From Autumn to Ashes, Silverstein, The Blood Brothers, Saosin, AFI, Senses Fail
Metalcore: Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, Eighteen Visions, Shadows Fall, Trivium, It Dies Today, Poison the Well, Zao, Parkway Drive
Quote from: Lexi Darling on May 03, 2025, 01:25 AMSure! Here's a few classics/favorites/legendary bands, broken down by style/subgenre. Tried to get a good balance of bigger bands and ones of more b- and c- tier popularity.
Thanks, nice list! I've seen a few at some Warped Tours in the early 2000's and heard of a few others. Judging from the list, you are a little more angry than I am! (smiling)
Quote from: Buckeye Randy on May 03, 2025, 02:14 AMThanks, nice list! I've seen a few at some Warped Tours in the early 2000's and heard of a few others. Judging from the list, you are a little more angry than I am! (smiling)
Nice! I went to Warped Tour five times, though all of them were in the 2010s when I was in my 20s.
And I suppose I was angrier back in the 2000s when I got into most of those bands, but to be fair I was a teenager back then (high school from 2003-2007), haha. I still like heavy stuff as an outlet for my emotions.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on May 03, 2025, 02:27 AMNice! I went to Warped Tour five times, though all of them were in the 2010s when I was in my 20s.
You beat me, I only went to three. Without fact checking, I 'think' the years were 2004, 2005 and 2007. Two in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh. Memories that will last a lifetime!
For me, 80s punk is probably the ticket. I really like the lo-fi garage quality sound in punk.The 90s mostly had pop-punk like NOFX, Green Day, Rancid, etc. which, don't get me wrong at all, was all good stuff and great party music... but didn't have the under-produced grit I loved in 80s punk. Some really great stuff in the 2010s, too, like White Lung and Amyl and The Sniffers.
80s for me too. I love how much noisier and weirder punk got. Some favorites:
- Circle Jerks—Group Sex
- Suicidal Tendencies—s/t
- Misfits—Earth A.D.
- Misfits—Walk Among Us
- Chaos UK—Burning Britain EP
- Scratch Acid—s/t EP
- Jello Biafra with D.O.A.—Last Scream of the Missing Neighbors
- Disorder—Complete Disorder EP
- Subhumans—From the Cradle to the Grave
- Fear—The Record
Quote from: Auroras In Ice on May 11, 2025, 05:26 AMFor me, 80s punk is probably the ticket. I really like the lo-fi garage quality sound in punk.The 90s mostly had pop-punk like NOFX, Green Day, Rancid, etc. which, don't get me wrong at all, was all good stuff and great party music... but didn't have the under-produced grit I loved in 80s punk. Some really great stuff in the 2010s, too, like White Lung and Amyl and The Sniffers.
I'll be seeing Amyl and The Sniffers next Tuesday, woohoo!
Whatever the reason, I didn't connect with much of the 80's punk, especially hardcore. Don't get me wrong because the 80's had plenty of stuff I liked; The Dead Milkmen, Beat Farmers Mojo Nixon, The Cramps and Violet Femmes to mention a few.
Mention Husker Du
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The 70's for me. I was in my teens and it was a lot of fun to experience punk rock as it was happening at that time.
I think all decades from the 50's on have made contributions. In the 50's, I think Eddie Cochran's "Something Else" and Buddy Holly's "Rave On" capture the spirit of punk. The 60's had all the garage rock which include "Dirty Water" by The Standells and "I Want Candy" by Srtangelove. Iggy said in an interview that "You Really Got Me" by The Kinks was the first punk song. Who wants to argue with Iggy?
I used to get hung up on the catch all phrase, 'proto punk'. This phrase was mostly saved for The Dictators or New York Dolls from the '70's but have heard it used for earlier bands like The Velvet Underground or MC5. The Modern Lovers active from '70 - '74 certainly sound the part and "Roadrunner" is perfect. The problem is this stuff wasn't released until '76 and that's after the band broke up. I never even heard the song until '79 when I bought "Rock n Roll Swindle" and I still think Joan Jett's version is definitive. BTW, I get that The Modern Lovers have a place in rock history due to the bands that sprouted from the ashes.
I bought up much of the '70's punk but I have a really hard time deciding on a favorite decade especially with bands like Dropkick Murphys sounding better than ever. I will say that for longevity, Television has stood the test of time and still gets regularly played in my walls. It's all good.