If you thought his last rant was bad, he's currently on a two day rage against Jews on his Twitter account.
Could discuss his music if you like, but as he hasn't made anything decent since probably his second album, who cares.
https://x.com/vidsthatgohard/status/1888270653674996192?t=XO4qml3Dd0FujTZhsixmHw&s=19
:laughing:
He's got a problem with kids in wheelchairs? :yikes:
That's the most PG issue he currently has. He's off his meds and on a Jewish tirade. He finally stopped tweeting for the night.
It's time to nurse that bootlegger Chris Rock shot back to health.
Around 30% of people on the internet these days are nazi edgelords, so this isn't really hitting the shock factor like it did before.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Feb 09, 2025, 05:02 AMThat's the most PG issue he currently has. He's off his meds and on a Jewish tirade. He finally stopped tweeting for the night.
He's back.
Basically what he's doing is tweeting about Jews, probably eating some tacos or something. Watching porn and wanking then going to bed, waking up and repeating.
https://yeezy.com/products/hh-01
He shut down his X account last night. I went back to get some laughs and it was gone.
Musk have been deleted. ;) X no longer marks the spot. Taken out by the Jewish resistance?
I'll stop now. Kanye? Ye, I can.
Apparently Kanye's wife is divorcing him over his antisemitic ranting and he is being threatened by a Jewish man over a sex tape with a sex worker from 2012.
He reactivated his X account and has been posting again.
Also I don't think that rumor is true about his wife divorcing him. People want it to be true because they currently hate Kanye.
https://x.com/finnjclancy/status/1902212744637485391?t=zDTju71s4Z1GYO0dEYRZqg&s=19
Rumor has it Donda died to get away from Kanye.
The real rumor is that he sacrificed her for the Kardashians.
https://x.com/AFpost/status/1901777657018372230?t=e3VI02zhitYuJbqvTHK-MA&s=19
😂😂😂
Not sure what's so funny about a self identified Nazi meeting a white supremacist but ok I guess.
Kanye West Drops Song With North West and Diddy Against Kim Kardashian's Wishes (https://www.vulture.com/article/kanye-west-new-song-diddy-north.html)
Every time I think Kanye can't go lower, he makes a song featuring the vocals of his 11 year old daughter alongside the voice of a pedophilic sex criminal. Utterly vile.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 20, 2025, 08:36 PMNot sure what's so funny about a self identified Nazi meeting a white supremacist but ok I guess.
Good grief.
I laughed because of how absurd it is.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 20, 2025, 09:04 PMGood grief.
I laughed because of how absurd it is.
Sometimes, laughing is all you can do. Kanye's antics a year or two ago were hard to look away from because they were novel at the time. Now I scroll through my feed (or more accurately, a few weeks ago I did) and learn that Kanye is selling swastika merch. I was so totally unphased and unsurprised by that I just kept scrolling, and I didn't even question it. :laughing:
Based on some of his recent tweets though, if he doesn't get some help, or someone that actually cares about him doesn't intervene soon, I don't think there's going to be a happy ending for him unfortunately.
Kanye has gotten way more grace than he deserves.
Fair enough. I understand making fun of people like these, they're pathetic and absurd ofc. I guess I just wasn't seeing the joke JJ was seeing in that 6 second Fuentes clip but I guess I get the idea now. I apologize if I came off as accusatory. I have some personal trauma about overt naziism being so flagrantly displayed and that does affect my perception of things.
He dropped his newest album on Youtube. Anyone listen to it yet?
I really don't like this whole "this album is a work in progress and may be subject to changes in the future" shit. Release the fucking album when it's done and then leave it alone.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 22, 2025, 05:01 PMHe dropped his newest album on Youtube. Anyone listen to it yet?
I really don't like this whole "this album is a work in progress and may be subject to changes in the future" shit. Release the fucking album when it's done and then leave it alone.
Agree.
I heard a little bit a few days ago and thought it was shit.
Sounded like it needed to be more aggressive. I don't want to hear laid back, AI singing shit. Bully (the title) sounds like it should be confrontational and abrasive but the music sounded more like he was a bully victim.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 22, 2025, 06:04 PMAgree.
I heard a little bit a few days ago and thought it was shit.
Sounded like it needed to be more aggressive. I don't want to hear laid back, AI singing shit. Bully (the title) sounds like it should be confrontational and abrasive but the music sounded more like he was a bully victim.
I just listened to it a couple times. I didn't think it was shit, but didn't think it was great either. It seemed a little bit emotionless, even with some nice sample selections. It was definitely better than Vultures or Donda though. By the time he 'finishes' the album (assuming he ever even does), I probably won't be interested any longer.
I would've been down for more aggression, as Yeezus is my favorite Kanye record.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 22, 2025, 06:15 PMI just listened to it a couple times. I didn't think it was shit, but didn't think it was great either. It seemed a little bit emotionless, even with some nice sample selections. It was definitely better than Vultures or Donda though. By the time he 'finishes' the album (assuming he ever even does), I probably won't be interested any longer.
I would've been down for more aggression, as Yeezus is my favorite Kanye record.
By the time he finishes the album, it will sound different. I also thought it was meh but to put it above Vultures 1 is weird to me. Vultures 1 was so dope. I could see if you said Vultures 2 maybe. I also wish Vultures 3 came out but who knows what he did with that material.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 22, 2025, 10:27 PMBy the time he finishes the album, it will sound different. I also thought it was meh but to put it above Vultures 1 is weird to me. Vultures 1 was so dope. I could see if you said Vultures 2 maybe. I also wish Vultures 3 came out but who knows what he did with that material.
I don't think it'll sound different in the sense that the currently released songs will get major changes, but the flow and general mood of the album might seem different holistically. But the risk you run as an artist when you release a work-in-progress album like this (which is more of an EP currently) is that if I'm not crazy about what you currently have on offer, I might not be interested in 6 months/year/etc. when you finally properly finish it. It's not exactly fair to the artist, but I'd argue it's not entirely fair to the listener either. If you want me to listen to the whole album, then just release it when it's ready and don't let me draw what could be a middling first impression from something that isn't complete.
Admittedly, I only gave Vultures 1 a couple listens when it first came out and it just didn't impress me at the time (I did think it was quite a bit better than Donda though). I haven't listened to it in a long while, so maybe a revisit is due. I remember one of my impressions being that I didn't think there was much chemistry between Ye/Ty Dolla $ign.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1907320296496894442?t=Dw6zMbcKaY9UnCX23O81nA&s=19
😂
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 03, 2025, 05:36 PMhttps://x.com/kanyewest/status/1907320296496894442?t=Dw6zMbcKaY9UnCX23O81nA&s=19
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Insane Clown Posse > Kanye West
^ na.
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New album track list.
Yah
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 03, 2025, 08:30 PMYah
Kanye's worst album is better than anything ICP have done no matter how much of a bellend he is.
Idk. I've actually heard almost all of what each artist has done.
Feels So Right, Mr. Johnson's Head & In My Room each are better than both Vultures albums combined.
Have you even heard an ICP album?
I can believe the Vultures thing but there's no way you think ICP are better than Kanye. He's ruining his legacy now but his early material and all the classics he produced for other people still happened. ICP are not serious. It's gimmick music for nerds.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 12:04 AMI can believe the Vultures thing but there's no way you think ICP are better than Kanye. He's ruining his legacy now but his early material and all the classics he produced for other people still happened. ICP are not serious. It's gimmick music for nerds.
Kanye West pretending to be conscious when he had ghost writers is just as much of a nerdy gimmick as ICP.
ICP using a carnival as a metaphor for poverty tourism feels more serious to me than Kanye talking about his addiction to consumerism or the 50,000th song about fame being hard or what ever the hell Black Skinhead is about.
:wumpscut: > Kanye West
It's not lol, and Kanye isn't good cos of his rapping it's because of his producing. I don't think anyone rates him as a great rapper.
So Kanye is a serious rapper but you think his rapping sucks?
He's only really ever fully produced 1 album. The rest he has a team of producers help him. So you're not a fan of Kanye, you're a fan of the whole team.
Kanye is a pretty good rapper when he wants to be. He's especially good with ghost writers. I care about lyrics, though. That's why I know ICP > Kanye West.
ICP are some goats with a career that has outlived legends while being black balled by the industry. I wouldn't be surprised if their career outlived Kanye's.
Lupe Fiasco > Kanye West
I love ICP (up through Hell's Pit at least) and have historically loved Kanye's first four albums. I think musically it's apples and oranges to the point where linear comparisons are pretty silly, but on a personal totally subjective level I still bump ICP these days whereas I just can't listen to anything Kanye has ever made without feeling like shit about the person he chose to become.
Mortal Kombat II for the Super Nintendo > Kanye West
I didn't say he's a serious rapper and I never said his music sucks. I said he isn't rated for his rapping. Dr. Dre isn't rated for his rapping either, doesn't mean his music sucks. He's had input from other people, so what? I didn't say he entirely produced everything he's ever done. And he produced Common's 'Be' album, so there's another one. Plus the beats he's made for other people.
ICP is definitely gimmick music for nerds. I can understand if you're about 12 and you rate it but if you're older than that you need to grow up.
ICP ffs.
I'd rather listen to Fred Durst.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 09:43 AMI didn't say he's a serious rapper and I never said his music sucks. I said he isn't rated for his rapping. Dr. Dre isn't rated for his rapping either, doesn't mean his music sucks. He's had input from other people, so what? I didn't say he entirely produced everything he's ever done. And he produced Common's 'Be' album, so there's another one. Plus the beats he's made for other people.
ICP is definitely gimmick music for nerds. I can understand if you're about 12 and you rate it but if you're older than that you need to grow up.
Nothing says "grown up" like throwing a tantrum over a different music opinion. :laughing:
Imagine calling this childish. SMH.
Edit: Show Me The Body > Kanye West
Discussions are tantrums now? lol
Probably listen to Kevin Federline before ICP as well tbh.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:07 AMDiscussions are tantrums now? lol
Probably listen to Kevin Federline before ICP as well tbh.
I'm having a discussion based on the merits of the music.
You're throwing middle school insults because you can't handle differing tastes.
Mostly because you've never actually listened to enough ICP to form a respectable opinion on them.
You don't get black balled by the industry just to become hip hop legends with a career still going strong after 40+ years if you only make shitty music for 12 year olds.
Twiztid > Kanye West
Of course you can. Eminem makes music for kids and he's been successful for four decades now.
Preferring something like Wu-Tang to The Roots would come down to taste. Thinking ICP are Hip-Hop legends is taking the piss.
You know it as well. Which is why you used them as the example to show how shit you think Kanye is.
Both artists have plenty of appeal to 12 year olds frankly. Kanye has so many immature lyrics and indefensibly cringe bars, at least when ICP have corny lyrics they're in on the joke. They know what they are. They're funny and over the top with it whereas something like Yeezus is lyrically obnoxious and doesn't even come off as self-aware.
QuoteOf course you can. Eminem makes music for kids and he's been successful for four decades now.
ICP have been successful for even longer than him. And they largely built their empire without the full support of the major record industry, hence Lucem's blackballed comment.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:38 AMOf course you can. Eminem makes music for kids and he's been successful for four decades now.
Preferring something like Wu-Tang to The Roots would come down to taste. Thinking ICP are Hip-Hop legends is taking the piss.
Fat Joe has called ICP legends.
Fat Joe has way more ethos on the matter than either of us.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 04, 2025, 11:42 AMFat Joe has called ICP legends.
Fat Joe has way more ethos on the matter than either of us.
And? Do you think people on Hip-Hop don't think similar about Kanye?
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 04, 2025, 11:40 AMICP have been successful for even longer than him. And they largely built their empire without the full support of the major record industry, hence Lucem's blackballed comment.
Nowhere near as successful. And it's irrelevant. Can't have a decades long career if you're making music for kids was his point. Well Eminem shows that you can.
I don't think either Eminem or ICP make music exclusively for kids and I don't think the vast majority of Eminem fans would agree that he does.
I also think it's largely irrelevant with regards to quality of music. The Beatles made music that appealed greatly toward kids. Hip-hop and rock are youth driven cultures. I think being able to appreciate stuff like ICP that isn't considered 'serious sophisticated adult music' is more of a sign of maturity then saying "oh this is for 12 year olds, I'm too mature to listen to this".
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:50 AMAnd? Do you think people on Hip-Hop don't think similar about Kanye?
Kanye is also a hip hop legend. I have never and will never deny that.
I'm probably a bigger Kanye West fan than you are. Anybody who knows me would be shocked by this opinion because of how much of a Kanye fan I am.
But Insane Clown Posse are undeniably hip hop legends and are better than Kanye West.
Eminem is also a hip hop legend and in many many many people's top 5 that are huge authorities on hip hop. If that's what you consider shitty music for 12 year olds than that puts ICP in good company.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:53 AMNowhere near as successful. And it's irrelevant. Can't have a decades long career if you're making music for kids was his point. Well Eminem shows that you can.
I don't know if we'd even have an Eminem if it weren't for ICP. The Slim Shady gimmick was far more inspired by Esham, for sure, but there is undeniably an ICP influence there too.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:07 AMDiscussions are tantrums now? lol
Probably listen to Kevin Federline before ICP as well tbh.
Actually you should!
I was just telling my friend 3 days ago about how good Kevin Federline is. It will surprise you. I feel like I was one of the 5000 or so only people that have bought his album. I picked it up from FYE on CD.
Batty was forever going on about ICP on MB and being slagged off for it, especially by Frownland. He (Batty) gave me some recs and I listened. He was quite surprised that I liked what I heard. It was - oh, what's that word again? Tip of my tongue, had it once, think it may have been awful. Oh yeah: fun. It was fun. And I'm no kid. I wouldn't say I was a fan, but hell I enjoyed what I heard and I realised it was all a big joke and a nudge and a wink. It was entertaining. So yeah, older people can appreciate and get down with the clowns too, or something.
Kanye doesn't interest me, but that's neither here nor there.
Oh wait, it's there.
Incidentally, how do you rate the music of his Japanese hip-hop cousin, ICan East?
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 04, 2025, 12:12 PMEminem is also a hip hop legend and in many many many people's top 5 that are huge authorities on hip hop. If that's what you consider shitty music for 12 year olds than that puts ICP in good company.
Yes he is but he's in their top 5s for mic skill. It's not for the actual music he makes.
SSLP - Good
MMLP - Very good
TES - Average
And then everything else is either average at best or dreadful.
Being a great rapper and making great music are different things. There are plenty of great rappers who haven't made a classic album (Eminem, Andre 3k, Rakim) and some average ones who have (Snoop Dogg is a good example).
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 04, 2025, 01:32 PMActually you should!
I was just telling my friend 3 days ago about how good Kevin Federline is. It will surprise you. I feel like I was one of the 5000 or so only people that have bought his album. I picked it up from FYE on CD.
Mate 😂
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 05:04 PMYes he is but he's in their top 5s for mic skill. It's not for the actual music he makes.
SSLP - Good
MMLP - Very good
TES - Average
And then everything else is either average at best or dreadful.
Being a great rapper and making great music are different things. There are plenty of great rappers who haven't made a classic album (Eminem, Andre 3k, Rakim) and some average ones who have (Snoop Dogg is a good example).
Are we not counting Outkast when considering whether or not Andre 3K has made a classic album?
Quote from: SGR on Apr 04, 2025, 05:26 PMAre we not counting Outkast when considering whether or not Andre 3K has made a classic album?
No as it's a group album and he has released solo material. Same with Rakim.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 05:43 PMNo as it's a group album and he has released solo material. Same with Rakim.
I don't know, that seems like a bit of an arbitrary distinction to me. Especially when you consider that Andre 3K did become quite involved with the production of Outkast - and not only was the production great, so were his mic skills and lyricism. And also, probably most hip hop records are 'group efforts' in the sense that there's typically a team of engineers and producers behind them - not to mention there's typically several featured artists on various tracks (though that's not
always the case). So it seems strange to not count that as a classic record an artist made just because he/she doesn't get solo billing on the album cover.
Also, you counted Snoop Dogg as an example of an artist who has made a classic record (Doggystyle), but I'm confident that it would be quite unlikely that album would be classic without Dr. Dre (not to mention the bevy of features the album has). So even though Snoop's name is on the album cover, the lines between 'solo effort/group effort' become blurry.
It's not strange, it has to be a solo album.
Andre's solo album was shit. Rakim's were nothing special. Both all-time great rappers.
I've looked back to see where the rule was made that it had to be a solo album and I can't see it, though I readily admit I know about as much about hip-hop as I do about building an engine for a car. ICP are not solo though, so where's the connection that I missed?
Or maybe I should just fuck off and not get involved in discussions about which I know nothing?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 04, 2025, 07:07 PMI've looked back to see where the rule was made that it had to be a solo album and I can't see it, though I readily admit I know about as much about hip-hop as I do about building an engine for a car. ICP are not solo though, so where's the connection that I missed?
Or maybe I should just fuck off and not get involved in discussions about which I know nothing?
Lucem said that Eminem is in a lot of highly regarded Hip-Hop artists' top 5 rappers therefore his music can't be that shit. I replied that he's in their top 5s because of his mic skills. Meaning as a spitter and lyricist, his flow, wordplay, complexity and whatever else... It's not for his back catalogue.
The point I was making is that being a great rapper doesn't necessarily translate to being a great musician. Eminem is a great rapper, but he makes shit music. Then I gave examples of other rappers who are great but haven't made good solo albums, and an average rapper who has. There are other examples but you get the basic point.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 06:38 PMIt's not strange, it has to be a solo album.
Andre's solo album was shit. Rakim's were nothing special. Both all-time great rappers.
I still am not sold on the distinction, but even if I was, I'm not sure how it's useful. Again,
Doggystyle is undoubtedly a classic record, but I don't think you'd argue that without Dr. Dre's production, it's almost certainly not a classic. But yet Snoop gets full credit for that record as a classic 'solo' album because his name is on the album cover? Forgetting the production, Snoop probably had at most ~60% of the verses on the album too, sharing mic duty with 9 other rappers. I don't see how Snoop gets credit for a classic album but Andre 3K doesn't because he went under the shared name of 'Outkast' with Big Boi - I'd wager Andre 3K had much more creative influence on how Outkast's records sounded than Snoop did on Doggystyle.
Imagine if Kanye painted his face like a clown and started rapping about killing racists like an adult instead of dressing in Klan robes and heiling Hitler like a 14 year old on 4chan.
Juggalo Kanye > Nazi Kanye
Edit:
The Rakim one is completely unfair. It's a rapper/producer collab. Paid In Full is a classic.
And Eminem does make good music. An example of a phenomenal rapper that makes shit music is something more like Cannibus.
I'd consider SSLP good, MMLP a legendary classic, Eminem Show was good, Encore is meh, Relapse an underrated gem, Recovery overrated mediocrity, MMLP 2 is phenomenal, Repulsive or what ever that album was called is some of the worst crap I've ever heard and ICP has never dropped an album that bad, Kamikaze was forgettable, Music To Be Murdered By was alright, the B-sides album was much better & his newest album was alright.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 04, 2025, 07:32 PMI still am not sold on the distinction, but even if I was, I'm not sure how it's useful. Again, Doggystyle is undoubtedly a classic record, but I don't think you'd argue that without Dr. Dre's production, it's almost certainly not a classic. But yet Snoop gets full credit for that record as a classic 'solo' album because his name is on the album cover? Forgetting the production, Snoop probably had at most ~60% of the verses on the album too, sharing mic duty with 9 other rappers. I don't see how Snoop gets credit for a classic album but Andre 3K doesn't because he went under the shared name of 'Outkast' with Big Boi - I'd wager Andre 3K had much more creative influence on how Outkast's records sounded than Snoop did on Doggystyle.
It really doesn't matter and I didn't say I was giving Snoop full credit for the Doggystyle album. Without producers rappers wouldn't have albums at all anyway. Also, choosing which producer to work with, what features you have and what beats to use is a part of being an artist.
The point is, being a great rapper doesn't necessarily mean you make great music. You can be a great rapper and your music is actually not great (Eminem).
I can't believe you're forcing me to defend overrated Eminem.
Edit: Paris > Ice Cube
Again I'm going to come over as a total n00b here (which I am, in terms of the hippety to the hop hop hop) but it was my - probably wrong - understanding that hip-hop artists didn't actually play music, just used samples and rapped over those? That's obviously incorrect if you're saying they can have bad music. Just wondering if I have it arse about face as usual?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 04, 2025, 08:48 PMAgain I'm going to come over as a total n00b here (which I am, in terms of the hippety to the hop hop hop) but it was my - probably wrong - understanding that hip-hop artists didn't actually play music, just used samples and rapped over those?
That's a very gross generalization (no offense to you of course) - hip hop used to be more sample-heavy/reliant in the late '80s/'90s. And a lot of hard-work and time goes into how the samples are selected and manipulated/chopped/looped/etc. Clearing lots of samples can be very expensive though, especially these days (the story goes that the Beastie Boys would not be able to afford to make Paul's Boutique, a record they created in 1989, were they to attempt to do so today) - so many of the beats and backing tracks these days is created/fine-tuned by producers/engineers as original pieces via digital audio workstations and technology (which have become cheaper and more widely available). Though of course, samples are still often used in the mix - depends on the artist.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 04, 2025, 08:48 PMThat's obviously incorrect if you're saying they can have bad music. Just wondering if I have it arse about face as usual?
Whether any hip-hop we're discussing is sample-heavy or not, it's still music. Not to speak for Jimmy, but I think what he means in context of this discussion is while certain rappers can be technically impressive/proficient on a mic (complicated rhyme schemes, good lyricism, good flow), the music as a whole (the beats, samples, backing tracks, chords, melodies, choruses, etc) can still be poor.
Music /=/ live instruments
There is an art to sampling and I suck at it.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 04, 2025, 09:32 PMThere is an art to sampling and I suck at it.
Absolutely. It's no secret I'm big into house music, and a lot of house DJs picked up sampling from hip-hop and implemented the techniques into their own tracks/remixes. When it comes to a gold standard example of excellent sampling in house music, I always go back to "Push the Feeling On".
Nightcrawlers released the original in 1992 - and it was essentially just a forgettable disco song that no one would otherwise likely even remember today. MK (Mark Kinchen) took it shortley thereafter, chopped it, looped it, gave it a driving, danceable beat and turned it into a unforgettable house masterpiece. It so eclipsed the original that when Nightcrawlers performed the track afterwards, they'd perform MK's remix :laughing:
Original:
MK remix:
For the record ICP > Kanye is contested.
But nobody disagreed that :wumpscut:, Lupe Fiasco, Show Me The Body, Twiztid & Mortal Kombat II for the Super Nintendo are all also better than Kanye.
Just seen you said MMLP2 is phenomenal? Overrating it slightly there 😂
Revival was diabolical yes, as is almost everything he's done after Lose Yourself.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 10:31 PMJust seen you said MMLP2 is phenomenal? Overrating it slightly there 😂
Revival was diabolical yes, as is almost everything he's done after Lose Yourself.
I loved MMLP2. 🤷
Good lord, debating Eminem's discography in a Kanye thread. It's like a tiring but humourous flasback to MB times. :laughing:
Kanye recently referring to Chester Bennington as "The Lincoln Park kid" makes me laugh - like, Kanye knows enough about Chester to "know" there was some duplicitous conspiracy surrounding his death, but also can't remember his name or how to spell his band's name. :laughing:
Music Banter would have been much more condescending.
That's true. :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 04, 2025, 10:38 PMGood lord, debating Eminem's discography in a Kanye thread. It's like a tiring but humourous flasback to MB times. :laughing:
Kanye recently referring to Chester Bennington as "The Lincoln Park kid" makes me laugh - like, Kanye knows enough about Chester to "know" there was some duplicitous conspiracy surrounding his death, but also can't remember his name or how to spell his band's name. :laughing:
Also calling Chester a "kid", not realizing the fact that he was born a year before Kanye was and died at age 41.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 04, 2025, 10:53 PMAlso calling Chester a "kid", not realizing the fact that he was born a year before Kanye was and died at age 41.
Yeah, it comes off as disrespectful, but I'm not sure that's the intent. Kanye is older now than Chester was then. Poor wording all around though.
Thanks for the explanation,
@SGR So basically would it be fair to say that a "musician", in very broad terms, in hip-hop is more a producer/arranger/engineer, moving stuff around and trimming and mixing so that it suits his or her purposes (or those of the artist they're working with/for), but that to be VERY BASIC HERE and not condescending to anyone, they don't PLAY instruments? As in, go into a hip-hop studio and you won't find people plugging in keyboards and guitars and sitting at drum kits? I know it may be a narrow definition of music, but it's an important distinction. I could, for instance (when it worked) play a few chords on my synth and then put them into CuBase or something and make them into a real melody or even song, but I would not have considered myself at all a musician. That's all I mean: apart from sampling - which I realise is probably the second most valued tool of any hip-hop artist (hip-hopper? Hipper? Big bouncy rabbit?) - the artists don't MAKE NEW, ORIGINAL music. Would that be a fair approximation?
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 04, 2025, 10:37 PMI loved MMLP2. 🤷
It had one or two decent moments and quite a bit of cringe. I listened to it again recently (I put an album on in the shed when I'm training) and it's like a 5/6 out of 10.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 04, 2025, 11:02 PMThanks for the explanation, @SGR
So basically would it be fair to say that a "musician", in very broad terms, in hip-hop is more a producer/arranger/engineer, moving stuff around and trimming and mixing so that it suits his or her purposes (or those of the artist they're working with/for), but that to be VERY BASIC HERE and not condescending to anyone, they don't PLAY instruments? As in, go into a hip-hop studio and you won't find people plugging in keyboards and guitars and sitting at drum kits? I know it may be a narrow definition of music, but it's an important distinction. I could, for instance (when it worked) play a few chords on my synth and then put them into CuBase or something and make them into a real melody or even song, but I would not have considered myself at all a musician. That's all I mean: apart from sampling - which I realise is probably the second most valued tool of any hip-hop artist (hip-hopper? Hipper? Big bouncy rabbit?) - the artists don't MAKE NEW, ORIGINAL music. Would that be a fair approximation?
No cos some of them do.
Also you absolutely are a musician if you're making beats on Cubase, FL or whatever. It's just a different skill to playing a physical instrument.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 04, 2025, 11:06 PMNo cos some of them do.
Also you absolutely are a musician if you're making beats on Cubase, FL or whatever. It's just a different skill to playing a physical instrument.
^ What he said.
Again, music /=/ live instruments
And new, original music /=/ live instruments
Here's how Oxford defines 'music' (https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/music):
Quote from: Oxford Dictionarysounds that are arranged in a way that is pleasant or exciting to listen to. People sing music or play it on instruments.
I don't understand how electronica seems to always avoid this mass misunderstanding and confusion among older generations with their vast array of digital tools/technology, but hip-hop does not. Once again, no offense intended to you in particular Trolls.
But yes, even in hip-hop, live instruments are sometimes used. As a big Miles Davis fan (and stan), my go-to example is Tribe Called Quest getting renowned bassist Ron Carter (from Miles Davis Second Great Quintet fame) to play bass on this track:
The Roots are big on live instruments too.
Okay well thanks for the compliment but I wouldn't call myself a musician doing that, but maybe it's just my age.
However, live instruments being used still doesn't answer my question, which is do they make NEW music? Someone playing bass alongside, say, Bill Withers' "Lovely Day", to be sampled, while certainly music is not new music. New music is someone sits down at a piano, plugs in or slings on a guitar or whatever, hums a tune and works out a melody and then adds lyrics (unless they leave it as an instrumental). It's never been heard before. It's new. This is what I mean. Are there melodies in hip-hop, created by those artists, which have not been used before?
In case anyone thinks it, I'm not trying to denigrate hip-hop musicians, nor make any case for an argument they're not musicians. I don't care. I'm just interested. Do they use, let's call it recycled music all the time, or do they write their own, new, original music? That's really all I want to know, and it's only for my own information and education, not to prove a point or use it against anyone. I'm a laid-back guy. In fact, I'm so laid-back I can't get up. Help!
Whilst I don't often hear live instrumentation in hip hop tracks (I mean I sometimes do in more jazzy hip hop or broken beat), most vocal hip hop artists don't seem to be that bothered with live instrumentation. Their skill seems to be identifying sounds and samples which link best with their vocal delivery. I would argue that most of them probably have keyboards in their studios so they can flesh out ideas.
The below mixtape contains all sorts of gems. Samples I could hear are Bob James and Ahmad Jamal, and there is a nice chord sequence between 19:48 and 19:49 which I'm sure is from Herbie Hancock but I can't work out which one (come on Saulaac get your thinking cap on!).
@Trollheart I think that a lot of the music on that mixtape is arguably "new", even though some of it is recognisable from the past. Just like prog rock and jazz rock borrowed heavily from Stravinsky, Bach, Bartok etc.
So as my appreciation and understanding of jazz funk has improved over the years, so too has my appreciation of hip hop. And vice versa.
I still find it hard to get down with really agressive rap. A lot of it doesn't sound that musical to me.
Room4Movement MIX #010 (Beats & Hip Hop)
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 05, 2025, 01:09 AMOkay well thanks for the compliment but I wouldn't call myself a musician doing that, but maybe it's just my age.
However, live instruments being used still doesn't answer my question, which is do they make NEW music? Someone playing bass alongside, say, Bill Withers' "Lovely Day", to be sampled, while certainly music is not new music. New music is someone sits down at a piano, plugs in or slings on a guitar or whatever, hums a tune and works out a melody and then adds lyrics (unless they leave it as an instrumental). It's never been heard before. It's new. This is what I mean. Are there melodies in hip-hop, created by those artists, which have not been used before?
In case anyone thinks it, I'm not trying to denigrate hip-hop musicians, nor make any case for an argument they're not musicians. I don't care. I'm just interested. Do they use, let's call it recycled music all the time, or do they write their own, new, original music? That's really all I want to know, and it's only for my own information and education, not to prove a point or use it against anyone. I'm a laid-back guy. In fact, I'm so laid-back I can't get up. Help!
Yes some compose new music entirely.
And also if you yourself made music on your computer using FL or whatever, you would be a musician just not a very good one.
That's very unfair. I think I would say I would be a very bad one. :laughing: (How does "Three Blind Mice" go again? Or are we allowed mention that, since it's both speciesist and ableist?)
It's kind of apples and oranges to compare hip hop to traditional instrumental music. The method of its initial creation was entirely different. Hip hop started as a thing DJs did at block parties where they would take turntables and commercial records and remix them live to extend the parts of the record that worked best as party music. That's where the classic hip hop record scratching started as well. Eventually the MCs of these parties would start rapping over the remixed records that the DJ was playing, with the DJ manipulating the records so that only the instrumental would be heard so the MC could rap over it. That was the genesis of hip hop as remix culture, rather than a culture that was rooted in instrumental performance.
Once digital samplers came around in the 80s the remix culture element remained, they just switched to using less clunky tech that also enabled them to get more creative with chopping samples, re-pitching them and using lots more samples per track a la the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique. A lot of people would sample a few different elements from different songs, and would augment their productions with sequenced synthesizers and sometimes acoustic instruments.
So it started with a totally different paradigm of art entirely from rock, jazz, classical, etc, and to appreciate the nuances of hip hop production you can't really think about it the same way as those traditional instrument genres imo.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 05, 2025, 04:29 AMIt's kind of apples and oranges to compare hip hop to traditional instrumental music. The method of its initial creation was entirely different. Hip hop started as a thing DJs did at block parties where they would take turntables and commercial records and remix them live to extend the parts of the record that worked best as party music. That's where the classic hip hop record scratching started as well. Eventually the MCs of these parties would start rapping over the remixed records that the DJ was playing, with the DJ manipulating the records so that only the instrumental would be heard so the MC could rap over it. That was the genesis of hip hop as remix culture, rather than a culture that was rooted in instrumental performance.
Once digital samplers came around in the 80s the remix culture element remained, they just switched to using less clunky tech that also enabled them to get more creative with chopping samples, re-pitching them and using lots more samples per track a la the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique. A lot of people would sample a few different elements from different songs, and would augment their productions with sequenced synthesizers and sometimes acoustic instruments.
So it started with a totally different paradigm of art entirely from rock, jazz, classical, etc, and to appreciate the nuances of hip hop production you can't really think about it the same way as those traditional instrument genres imo.
I mentioned Paul's Boutique, you mentioned Paul's Boutique. It's very clear that Trolls is quite interested in hip hop and the how the history of sampling plays into it. I think the only way forward, which we all are probably in agreement on, is that Trollheart will need to listen to Beastie Boys'
Paul's Boutique 7 or 8 times and report back on his experiences after he's studied the samples used (https://paulsboutique.info/).
What say you, Trolls? ;)
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Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 05, 2025, 05:31 AM
Tell me this isn't dope with the beat.
Some really cheesy lines. Production dated and amateurish. Flow is very basic and sloppy in places.
Its a no from me I'm afraid :laughing:
Still though, K-Fed > ICP
I don't understand why you insist on advertising your horrible taste like that when you should be ashamed. :laughing:
I heard Paul's Boutique and I weren't impressed. I don't like the Monster Kids. But in a general, mild way, yes, I guess I am interested in the whole culture/history of the rabbit music. I have dipped my almost translucent toe into the pool and while sometimes I've had to quickly retract it before it gets bitten off, more often than not it's been a pleasant experience. I certainly know more about it/appreciate it more than I did say 10 years or more ago.
Hip-hop > Trollheart
I don't understand how pepole are activeley supporting a full blown nazi in the year of 2025
Hey, they voted one in to lead them, didn't they?
Quote from: Relutance on Apr 05, 2025, 07:57 PMI don't understand how pepole are activeley supporting a full blown nazi in the year of 2025
I was coming in here to say just this. Really sad how people here are playing it off as if this isn't a cold hard fact.
I believe in enjoying art from shitty people because you don't have to support them to do that anymore.
But enjoying ICP is better because not only do they make better music but they are better people, too.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 06, 2025, 12:34 AMI believe in enjoying art from shitty people because you don't have to support them to do that anymore.
But enjoying ICP is better because not only do they make better music but they are better people, too.
I'm all for separating the art from the artist's personal life but there are exceptions and it's hard for me to listen to Kanye West when I know what he's like personally now. And I was a fan of his music for a good while.
The Life of Pablo was and probably still is my favorite album of his but I just haven't bothered listening to it for a few years now.
I don't take stances against others' private listening habits and I listen to plenty of artists who have done awful things.
In the case of people like Kanye and JK Rowling who are currently actively pushing very real and dangerous hate movements and using their cultural influence to do so, there's a difference in my mind between consuming their art on your own time and repping it publicly, for example, wearing Harry Potter merch in a space with lots of trans people.
I don't even think it's a reflection on anyone's morality necessarily, I just think it's gauche.
I wouldn't put Kanye and JK Rowling in the same boat when one is of sound mind and the other is trolling for attention in a manic phase. He said the worst thing to him is being threatened with hospitalization when he clearly needs it and that's why his wife left him.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 06, 2025, 01:47 AMI don't take stances against others' private listening habits and I listen to plenty of artists who have done awful things.
In the case of people like Kanye and JK Rowling who are currently actively pushing very real and dangerous hate movements and using their cultural influence to do so, there's a difference in my mind between consuming their art on your own time and repping it publicly, for example, wearing Harry Potter merch in a space with lots of trans people.
I don't even think it's a reflection on anyone's morality necessarily, I just think it's gauche.
That's actually a really fair point or points that I didn't even really consider. I guess representing it and just simply enjoying it for your own personal enjoyment are certainly two different ways to appreciate the art of someone who's unruly or what have you.
I don't think you can separate the art from the artist when it comes to Kanye.
His music is too personal.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 02:28 AMI wouldn't put Kanye and JK Rowling in the same boat when one is of sound mind and the other is trolling for attention in a manic phase. He said the worst thing to him is being threatened with hospitalization when he clearly needs it and that's why his wife left him.
I honestly don't care if he's trolling at this point. He hangs out with actual white supremacists, sells swastika merch, makes direct threats to the Jewish people on Twitter, he's been doing that for half a decade now and frankly even if he's 100% trolling, does it really matter when he keeps doing it? I don't think it's unreasonable to consider him a contributor to the spread of far right hate. There's only so far "oh so and so is just being an edgy troll, that hate rhetoric isn't his real views so it isn't worth taking seriously" can be stretched, especially when he's involving actual neo nazis like Nick Fuentes.
And even then, just because he doesn't really believe the things he says doesn't mean he's not still contributing to normalizing that shit in an era when government officials with real power and influence are doing nazi salutes on TV and retweeting antisemitic conspiracy theories on the reg. Mental illness doesn't absolve him of negative impact on the world.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 06, 2025, 03:01 AMI don't think you can separate the art from the artist when it comes to Kanye.
His music is too personal.
That's what I was saying before. It's hard to really listen to his music now knowing what we know now. It's a shame too because there was a time that I genuinely enjoyed listening to his stuff.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 02:28 AMI wouldn't put Kanye and JK Rowling in the same boat when one is of sound mind and the other is trolling for attention in a manic phase. He said the worst thing to him is being threatened with hospitalization when he clearly needs it and that's why his wife left him.
Dude isn't trolling. He's flat out spreading hate and has been called out for it many times and still does it. Surprised somebody with your morals would equate Kanye to trolling and not admit he's spreading outright lies and hatred to a group of people. You know better than that. Cmon deej.
He probably is trolling a bit tbf. He's definitely looking for reactions and he definitely isn't of sound mind.
Quote from: Key on Apr 06, 2025, 03:08 AMThat's what I was saying before. It's hard to really listen to his music now knowing what we know now. It's a shame too because there was a time that I genuinely enjoyed listening to his stuff.
I've always thought most of it was bang average or just plain shit. Now I think most of it is bang average and plain shit.
There are probably around 10 productions he's done that I really love though.
Etc.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 06, 2025, 03:03 AMI honestly don't care if he's trolling at this point. He hangs out with actual white supremacists, sells swastika merch, makes direct threats to the Jewish people on Twitter, he's been doing that for half a decade now and frankly even if he's 100% trolling, does it really matter when he keeps doing it? I don't think it's unreasonable to consider him a contributor to the spread of far right hate. There's only so far "oh so and so is just being an edgy troll, that hate rhetoric isn't his real views so it isn't worth taking seriously" can be stretched, especially when he's involving actual neo nazis like Nick Fuentes.
And even then, just because he doesn't really believe the things he says doesn't mean he's not still contributing to normalizing that shit in an era when government officials with real power and influence are doing nazi salutes on TV and retweeting antisemitic conspiracy theories on the reg. Mental illness doesn't absolve him of negative impact on the world.
Can you admit that he's mentally ill though? You give him way too much credit. There are other sources that have been doing a bang up job of spreading white supremacy than him. He's boring and I definitely don't take anything he says seriously. He's pretty much like a toddler crying out for attention. People that want to hate him will believe those are his authentic takes and that he truly believes all that stuff and dismiss him. Which they can all the want but it's easy to see through.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 05:38 AMCan you admit that he's mentally ill though? You give him way too much credit. There are other sources that have been doing a bang up job of spreading white supremacy than him. He's boring and I definitely don't take anything he says seriously. He's pretty much like a toddler crying out for attention. People that want to hate him will believe those are his authentic takes and that he truly believes all that stuff and dismiss him. Which they can all the want but it's easy to see through.
I'm not saying I believe these are his authentic takes, and I did acknowledge that he is mentally ill in my last sentence. My point was that it doesn't matter to me that these aren't his real beliefs.
If someone says antisemitic shit constantly i really don't think there's very much of a functional difference whether he actually believes it or not, and I'm going to treat the subject of him pushing Nazi shit with the gravity it deserves. I think a good amount of early 4chan was full of edgy trolling with their racist memes, but they were still spreading racist ideas and normalizing them regardless of what the users' underlying beliefs may have been.
If Kanye really isn't antisemitic then great, he's just being an irresponsible jackass then. And he still is associating with and cross promoting Nick Fuentes. Until he apologizes, denounces this garbage and gets help I don't see why I should think of him any differently than any other artist who spews bigoted shit.
Edit: I will agree that he's not *as* bad as JK Rowling. But when someone makes Nazism their brand I think it's perfectly reasonable for a person of Jewish heritage such as myself to want nothing to do with them and to feel uncomfortable in places where it seems like the Nazism that is inextricably a big part of his brand is being ignored or downplayed.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 05:38 AMCan you admit that he's mentally ill though? You give him way too much credit. There are other sources that have been doing a bang up job of spreading white supremacy than him. He's boring and I definitely don't take anything he says seriously. He's pretty much like a toddler crying out for attention. People that want to hate him will believe those are his authentic takes and that he truly believes all that stuff and dismiss him. Which they can all the want but it's easy to see through.
Claiming mental illness doesn't mean you can go around spouting nazi rhetoric. The two are not mutually exclusive. He may be mentally ill, sure. But his words also have weight to them and he should be taken seriously. You not taking them seriously basically says you're OK with his rhetoric. And that's not OK.
As Lexi said, dismissing what he's saying and not taking it seriously basically normalizes the behavior and makes it seem like it's ok to act this way. It's not. It's deplorable and should be frowned upon. This isn't hard to understand.
Nah. Us bipolars don't consistently act bigoted unless we are bigoted.
This & the Kardashian scapegoating are two narratives that need to stop.
Kanye has gotten way too much grace.
And beastiality is wrong. Fish cannot consent.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 06, 2025, 06:17 AMI'm not saying I believe these are his authentic takes, and I did acknowledge that he is mentally ill in my last sentence. My point was that it doesn't matter to me that these aren't his real beliefs.
If someone says antisemitic shit constantly i really don't think there's very much of a functional difference whether he actually believes it or not, and I'm going to treat the subject of him pushing Nazi shit with the gravity it deserves. I think a good amount of early 4chan was full of edgy trolling with their racist memes, but they were still spreading racist ideas and normalizing them regardless of what the users' underlying beliefs may have been.
If Kanye really isn't antisemitic then great, he's just being an irresponsible jackass then. And he still is associating with and cross promoting Nick Fuentes. Until he apologizes, denounces this garbage and gets help I don't see why I should think of him any differently than any other artist who spews bigoted shit.
Edit: I will agree that he's not *as* bad as JK Rowling. But when someone makes Nazism their brand I think it's perfectly reasonable for a person of Jewish heritage such as myself to want nothing to do with them and to feel uncomfortable in places where it seems like the Nazism that is inextricably a big part of his brand is being ignored or downplayed.
It's only normalized if you give it more credit than it's worth for the things hes saying and take him seriously imo. 😒
I do understand your perspective though being Jewish in your heritage of course your allowed to feel uncomfortable and completely write him off.
Even if he apologizes I wouldn't even take that to heart until he gets help for his mental illness because he would be just saying it to say it.
All your feelings towards him are valid.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 06, 2025, 07:51 AMNah. Us bipolars don't consistently act bigoted unless we are bigoted.
This & the Kardashian scapegoating are two narratives that need to stop.
Kanye has gotten way too much grace.
And beastiality is wrong. Fish cannot consent.
You can't lump all bipolar people together like they are a monolith. Your experience and his are different.
Quote from: Key on Apr 06, 2025, 06:29 AMClaiming mental illness doesn't mean you can go around spouting nazi rhetoric. The two are not mutually exclusive. He may be mentally ill, sure. But his words also have weight to them and he should be taken seriously. You not taking them seriously basically says you're OK with his rhetoric. And that's not OK.
His words should only be taken seriously if he's of sound mind. The only reason his words have weight is because you give them weight as a person receiving the toxic stuff he's saying. Also you are connecting dots where you shouldn't. Just because I recognise his mental illness and don't take him seriously doesn't mean that I support bigots like Nick Fuentes that are of sound mind and that's just who they are as an individual.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 02:53 PMYou can't lump all bipolar people together like they are a monolith. Your experience and his are different.
Antisemitism is not a symptom of bipolar disorder, ffs.
When your manic episode ends, so do your delusions.
When Kanye decides he's an ultra Christian who doesn't swear just to give that up so quickly, that's his bipolar. When Kanye went on an anti-porn kick talking about how he's a victim of porn addiction just to drop all that and announce a porn company that never actually comes to fruition, that's his bipolar disorder.
When Kanye is consistently antisemitic for years and never walks it back & doubles down on it instead, that's just him. It's what he actually believes.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 06, 2025, 02:59 PMHis words should only be taken seriously if he's of sound mind. The only reason his words have weight is because you give them weight as a person receiving the toxic stuff he's saying. Also you are connecting dots where you shouldn't. Just because I recognise his mental illness and don't take him seriously doesn't mean that I support bigots like Nick Fuentes that are of sound mind and that's just who they are as an individual.
His words have weight because he's spouting nazi rhetoric towards a group of people that don't deserve to be labeled as what he's labeling them as. It has nothing to do with me. I'm just sympathetic towards the people this is having a serious effect on and I think most people that give a damn about people in general feel the same way. To sit back and do or say nothing normalizes the behavior and gives off the impression that it's ok. That's what I meant towards your feeling on it. I'm pretty certain you don't support this type of shit but you're also doing a pretty good job at making it seem like it isn't as big of an issue as it is.
I get that the way Kanye turned out is a huge disappointment, but the only thing to blame for that is Kanye himself.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 06, 2025, 05:33 PMI get that the way Kanye turned out is a huge disappointment, but the only thing to blame for that is Kanye himself.
There honestly was a time before all this happened that I did think it'd be interesting to sit down and talk with Kanye and ask him about his creative process etc. He genuinely seemed like an interesting dude but unfortunately that ship has sailed.
He's obviously stepped it up a notch or ten but he's been a massive cunt from very early on. Why are people just realising this now? :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 06, 2025, 06:16 PMHe's obviously stepped it up a notch or ten but he's been a massive cunt from very early on. Why are people just realising this now? :laughing:
I mean I can agree to that too. It's just now he's saying some pretty serious and scary shit that it's hard not to look past it. I don't really remember him being as high on antisemitism as he is now. But I also don't remember last week let alone many moons ago so maybe it was always there.
Quote from: Key on Apr 06, 2025, 06:34 PMI mean I can agree to that too. It's just now he's saying some pretty serious and scary shit that it's hard not to look past it. I don't really remember him being as high on antisemitism as he is now. But I also don't remember last week let alone many moons ago so maybe it was always there.
Nothing to do with this discussion but why are you a swollen member? Do you lift?
Join us in the workout thread if you do.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 06, 2025, 07:53 PMNothing to do with this discussion but why are you a swollen member? Do you lift?
Join us in the workout thread if you do.
Idk I just chose a random one. I don't really workout.
Quote from: Key on Apr 06, 2025, 08:25 PMIdk I just chose a random one. I don't really workout.
:(
If you want to build some muscle feel free to join us.
Kanye West has not been at his Kanye Best
Quote from: SGR on Apr 06, 2025, 11:35 PMKanye West has not been at his Kanye Best
:poop:
https://x.com/afhasbara/status/1908881464889843774?t=8sbXsNJ_U1BGBikPp3Al2w&s=19
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 07, 2025, 12:39 AMhttps://x.com/afhasbara/status/1908881464889843774?t=8sbXsNJ_U1BGBikPp3Al2w&s=19
Someone in the comments of that post said that he has said "Noone should be mad at him for trying to profit off of Jewish pain because Jewish execs have gained wealth off the backs of black pain"
So I guess that's his reasoning behind all this ranting he's been doing. He's still a clown to me that I'm not taking seriously in any shape or form.
I wonder if he said that during the AK interview. I still haven't watched it because not gonna waste my time on that.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1909164918240403513?t=ffQ6Y-PVqmWhwwgj-9BYug&s=19
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 07, 2025, 09:01 AMSomeone in the comments of that post said that he has said "Noone should be mad at him for trying to profit off of Jewish pain because Jewish execs have gained wealth off the backs of black pain"
So I guess that's his reasoning behind all this ranting he's been doing. He's still a clown to me that I'm not taking seriously in any shape or form.
I wonder if he said that during the AK interview. I still haven't watched it because not gonna waste my time on that.
I think he has said that previously. Wiley got in trouble a few years ago for saying the same thing. He went on a really bad rant lasting a couple of days if I remember correctly. He's been cancelled now. He was on 1m followers, now he can't even get 10k. His career is basically over.
Interview:
Is he wilfully ignoring the fact that Hitler may have "built a new Germany in a few years" but caused its total destruction in an even shorter time? If you weighed up, to paraphrase John Cleese, what Hitler did for the Germans, the negatives would overbalance the scale and cause it to fall over.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 07, 2025, 08:35 PMIs he wilfully ignoring the fact that Hitler may have "built a new Germany in a few years" but caused its total destruction in an even shorter time? If you weighed up, to paraphrase John Cleese, what Hitler did for the Germans, the negatives would overbalance the scale and cause it to fall over.
Tbf it was us that destroyed it (https://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/davidbowierocks/i217799416_75144_7.gif)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 07, 2025, 10:25 PM
Don't understand how he goes from her wanting to hop in a 'rari' to the Nazi stuff.
Do you rate it?
I want the album to hurry up and come out. I want it counted as part of his discography forever.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 08, 2025, 12:40 AMDon't understand how he goes from her wanting to hop in a 'rari' to the Nazi stuff.
Do you rate it?
I want the album to hurry up and come out. I want it counted as part of his discography forever.
I like the sample that he picked but lyrics are trash as usual.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 08, 2025, 04:32 AMI like the sample that he picked but lyrics are trash as usual.
Okay wait a minute, this is supposed to be from a different album called WW3?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WW3_(Kanye_West_album)
All this tells me is that the Bully we got will be the Bully we're left with, and it won't ever get finished. Kanye has the attention span of a gnat.
Agree with DJ, the sample is good, and the potential for a classic Kanye track is so obviously there, but with lyrics like that, nope. Just a sad memento of what could have been.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 08, 2025, 05:02 AMOkay wait a minute, this is supposed to be from a different album called WW3?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WW3_(Kanye_West_album)
All this tells me is that the Bully we got will be the Bully we're left with, and it won't ever get finished. Kanye has the attention span of a gnat.
Agree with DJ, the sample is good, and the potential for a classic Kanye track is so obviously there, but with lyrics like that, nope. Just a sad memento of what could have been.
Yes WW3 track list got posted on X. Lemme see if I can find it.
Yeah sadly Bully might be in it's final form
If you're surprised that new Kanye music isn't good, pay more attention lol
It'd take a miracle and a half for his music to become somewhat enjoyable again, old and new
I went looking for the track list I saw but ended up finding this.
https://x.com/ReaperZerk/status/1906987543091933272?t=vKOzHNaX0IKPDGygq1wt3w&s=19
Quote from: Key on Apr 08, 2025, 09:19 AMIf you're surprised that new Kanye music isn't good, pay more attention lol
It'd take a miracle and a half for his music to become somewhat enjoyable again, old and new
Vultures 1 was so good though. Vultures 2 not so much but it had a few tracks on it that I liked. I had a long bus ride Saturday and decided to re listen to them both.
https://x.com/scubaryan_/status/1907618345303585038?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1907618345303585038%7Ctwgr%5Ea77ec145b1d60c03a28b48c7d24df3fe324ecb3b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fentertainment%2Fkanye-west-album-ww3-song-070832106.html
Vultures had bits and pieces of stuff that could have been good but instead was musical edging that gave my ears blue balls.
Where does this end?
It seems unlikely that he'll end up being in the same place he was, at the forefront of pop music and mixing with other big names. Even if he didn't do all the Nazi stuff he's said some bad shit about a lot of people.
He loves being an attention seeker. You say BLM he says White Lives Matter. You say Nazis bad he says Nazis good. I think he just wants to be different. He's always come out with attention seeking shit even back to the George Bush comment. Pretty soon people will stop paying attention, maybe he will sink even lower, if that's possible.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 08, 2025, 05:35 PMWhere does this end?
Probably when he dies honestly, and with the way things have been going, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens sooner rather than later. I just don't think at this point he has anyone around him who truly cares for his well-being and isn't a 'yes man' or someone just exploiting him for their own gain. He did have people like that around him throughout his life, but he's pushed most, if not all of them away.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 08, 2025, 05:35 PMWhere does this end?
When he gets assassinated by the Jewish mafia.
We'll never know. The code of Oy Vey! Merta is sacrosanct.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 09, 2025, 02:45 AMWe'll never know. The code of Oy Vey! Merta is sacrosanct.
Lmaooo I hope you don't mind if I steal this one. :laughing:
As Fleetwood Mac say, Steal Away!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 07, 2025, 08:07 PMI think he has said that previously. Wiley got in trouble a few years ago for saying the same thing. He went on a really bad rant lasting a couple of days if I remember correctly. He's been cancelled now. He was on 1m followers, now he can't even get 10k. His career is basically over.
Interview:
Damn I didn't know my man Wiley fell off like that and felt that way. I just finally got around to watching that video soz.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 09, 2025, 04:45 PMDamn I didn't know my man Wiley fell off like that and felt that way. I just finally got around to watching that video soz.
He was in trouble years before this as well.
Although tbf he was attacked and retaliating. Still doesn't excuse it I know.
I still love him though.
I prefer his partnership with Road Runner.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1910307693408961006?t=jE2hZrJwji2jHWlHGdrbTQ&s=19
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 10, 2025, 08:42 PMhttps://x.com/kanyewest/status/1910307693408961006?t=jE2hZrJwji2jHWlHGdrbTQ&s=19
That tweet (whatever it was) was removed fast
Road Runner again.
(https://media.tenor.com/XB1rODFDscgAAAAM/beep-roadrunner.gif)
Quote from: SGR on Apr 10, 2025, 08:45 PMThat tweet (whatever it was) was removed fast
QuoteHow I pull up to the restaurant on the most Jews here ever 👀
Not gonna lie I'm happy when they see the chain That's how they know it's really me
With a selfie of him wearing his swastika chain.
Also watched part of that interview he did in his black KKK outfit. He is genuinely mad. I've known someone in the middle of untreated schizophrenia and they were not too different to how he is. Just endless talking that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Jesus Christ...
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The song is decent lol.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 22, 2025, 01:52 PMThe song is decent lol.
I would hate to be your ears.
That's why Kanye thinks he's white.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on Apr 22, 2025, 05:08 PMThat's why Kanye thinks he's white.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1915170930021576794?t=KQP90SWGN6W3_J_3P8jAxw&s=19
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 24, 2025, 02:00 AMhttps://x.com/kanyewest/status/1915170930021576794?t=KQP90SWGN6W3_J_3P8jAxw&s=19
Kanye trying to get his ticket to White Heaven, like Uncle Ruckus, before it's too late
Not that I particularly care, but isn't this going to alienate all his black fans? I know Jackson did something similar and kept his, but he never out and out said he was white. Surely this is a betrayal of everything he (hah) stands for, and how can he now claim ownership of and sincerity for lyrics that - presumably - talk about the plight of the black man and woman in America? Also, is he going to get a big tin of white paint and empty it over him? What about his wife/kids (has he any?) and his family: are they all white now too?
The most blatant and completely ridiculous reinvention of, and twisting of the truth in America today, and that's saying something.
This "explanation" of being black from the movie
The Committments - while tongue in cheek - makes more sense!
I decided today: I'm cis.
Well that was easy. Damn, I can't believe I'd never thought of it before. Kanye is truly an inspirational genius. 🙏
I decided today you're great. :love:
Well his kids are half white and their mom is white.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 24, 2025, 04:01 PMNot that I particularly care, but isn't this going to alienate all his black fans? I know Jackson did something similar and kept his, but he never out and out said he was white. Surely this is a betrayal of everything he (hah) stands for, and how can he now claim ownership of and sincerity for lyrics that - presumably - talk about the plight of the black man and woman in America? Also, is he going to get a big tin of white paint and empty it over him? What about his wife/kids (has he any?) and his family: are they all white now too?
The most blatant and completely ridiculous reinvention of, and twisting of the truth in America today, and that's saying something.
This "explanation" of being black from the movie The Committments - while tongue in cheek - makes more sense!
Well, at the very least, he's going to need to rename, and rewrite "Black Skinhead":
QuoteFor my theme song (White)
My leather White jeans on (White)
My by-any-means on
Pardon, I'm getting my scream on (White)
Enter the kingdom (White)
But watch who you bring home
They see a White man with a white woman
At the top floor they gone come to kill King Kong
Middle America packed in (White)
Came to see me in my White skin (White)
Number one question they're askin'
Fuck every question you askin' (White)
If I don't get ran out by Catholics (White)
Here come some conservative Baptists
Claiming I'm overreactin'
Like them black kids in Chiraq, bitch
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-15-2024/lrsc6h.gif)
Joe Biden doesn't care about white people.
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Let's get lost tonight
You could be my white Diana Ross tonight
Thanks, I'm flattered but I'm washing my hair tonight. :laughing:
Ngl this song goes kinda hard.
Song is now out with music video.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1920387087049572704
He's actually sampled Adolf Hitler.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 08, 2025, 10:30 AMSong is now out with music video.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1920387087049572704
He's actually sampled Adolf Hitler.
How'd Kanye manage to find 30 black dudes willing to appear in a music video singing "Heil Hitler!"?
10 years from now...
"So, it says here on your resume that in 2025 you actually appeared in a rap music video! That sounds interesting! Care to tell us a little more about that?"
These dudes:
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Quote from: SGR on May 08, 2025, 04:35 PMHow'd Kanye manage to find 30 black dudes willing to appear in a music video singing "Heil Hitler!"?
If they were the sort who are involved with the Nation of Islam or sympathetic to them then I don't think they would take much convincing.
They love a bit of antisemitism. Regarding their leader, Louis Farrakhan:
QuoteHe has repeatedly described Adolf Hitler as a "great man" and claimed Jewish involvement in the Atlantic slave trade, Jim Crow laws and black oppression in general.
QuoteAt a later meeting of the Nation of Islam at Madison Square Garden in 1985, Farrakhan said of the Jews: "And don't you forget, when it's God who puts you in the ovens, it's forever!" He has also claimed that German Jews financed the Holocaust in a speech at the Mosque Maryam, Chicago in March 1995: "German Jews financed Hitler right here in America...International bankers financed Hitler and poor Jews died while big Jews were at the root of what you call the Holocaust". Almost three years later at a Saviors' Day gathering in the same city, he said: "The Jews have been so bad at politics they lost half their population in the Holocaust. They thought they could trust in Hitler, and they helped him get the Third Reich on the road."
QuoteFarrakhan made antisemitic comments during his May 16–17, 2013 visit to Detroit in which he accused President Obama of having "surrounded himself with Satan...members of the Jewish community". Jews, according to Farrakhan, "have mastered the civilization now, but they've mastered it in evil".
QuoteLouis Farrakhan said in a 2014 speech that "the satanic Jews that control everything, and mostly everybody, if they are your enemy, you must, must be somebody." In an October 2018 speech, Farrakhan referred to Jews as termites: "So when they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater, you know what they do, call me an anti-Semite. Stop it, I'm anti-Termite."
Point being, these people exist.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 08, 2025, 05:44 PMIf they were the sort who are involved with the Nation of Islam or sympathetic to them then I don't think they would take much convincing.
They love a bit of antisemitism. Regarding their leader, Louis Farrakhan:
Point being, these people exist.
I suppose that's true, but beyond being generally antisemitic, I don't think Kanye's "message" (insofar as one can even derive any kind of coherent message from him) and "views" align very closely with the stated beliefs/tenets of the NOI. In fact, some of his "views" and certainly his lifestyle are contradictory to the NOI. Probably more likely they were more attracted by the prospect of appearing in a Kanye music video than by any possible ideological alignment they might share. I'm also guessing some candidates for the video showed up, found out what lyrics they'd need to lip sync to, and bailed - the ones in the video are the ones that stayed. Just a hunch though. The song, music video, and general situation is just absurd to the point it's difficult to make any sense of.
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/boondocks-uncle-ruckus-god-bless-america-c0ighwjw8gb2c2ex.gif)
I see the twitter link JJ posted got axed/deleted, so for those who care to see the video, here it is (for however long it stays up before it certainly gets axed for violating the Youtube TOS):
Quote from: SGR on May 08, 2025, 06:37 PMI suppose that's true, but beyond being generally antisemitic, I don't think Kanye's "message" (insofar as one can even derive any kind of coherent message from him) and "views" align very closely with the stated beliefs/tenets of the NOI. In fact, some of his "views" and certainly his lifestyle are contradictory to the NOI. Probably more likely they were more attracted by the prospect of appearing in a Kanye music video than by any possible ideological alignment they might share. I'm also guessing some candidates for the video showed up, found out what lyrics they'd need to lip sync to, and bailed - the ones in the video are the ones that stayed. Just a hunch though. The song, music video, and general situation is just absurd to the point it's difficult to make any sense of.
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/boondocks-uncle-ruckus-god-bless-america-c0ighwjw8gb2c2ex.gif)
I don't think it'd make much difference tbh (though it probably is cos they're getting paid, although would you be in this video for money? I wouldn't, unless it was 7 figures plus, which it isn't going to be). People contradict themselves all the time. Just saying I don't think it'd be difficult to find 30 black men to be in that video just off of antisemitism as they do exist.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 08, 2025, 07:01 PMI don't think it'd make much difference tbh (though it probably is cos they're getting paid, although would you be in this video for money? I wouldn't, unless it was 7 figures plus, which it isn't going to be). People contradict themselves all the time. Just saying I don't think it'd be difficult to find 30 black men to be in that video just off of antisemitism as they do exist.
Maybe you're right. My original post was mostly just a setup for a joke/Doug Heffernan meme. :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 08, 2025, 10:30 AMSong is now out with music video.
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1920387087049572704
He's actually sampled Adolf Hitler.
You know what's funny about this? I saw a video last week where this girl interviewed a neighbor next to this warehouse where they filmed this and he thought Kanye was in a secret cult because he would hear the chanting but in reality they were filming this video lol.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 08, 2025, 09:45 PMYou know what's funny about this? I saw a video last week where this girl interviewed a neighbor next to this warehouse where they filmed this and he thought Kanye was in a secret cult because he would hear the chanting but in reality they were filming this video lol.
(https://media.tenor.com/M_reJOPNkQEAAAAe/anthony-edwards-send-da-video.png)
Also, at this point, if there's anything Kanye keeps secret, I'm not sure I wanna know about it. :laughing:
There's a lot of people out there whose brains are completely broken without being part of any larger movement like NOI, so I don't find it odd that Ye was able to find some black dudes to chant brain-broken Nazi shit. There's significant neo-Nazi movements in Slavic nations among people whose ancestors were being fed into ovens. Some Hindu nationalists roll Nazism into their worldviews. It's all over. Fascism is inherently irrational, so when you see anyone hollering "heil Hitler" you can bank on the the thought process that led them to that moment not making a lot of rational or coherent sense.
Love how the CCs on the YouTube video say "Heat Heat" during the chorus. Not sure that's accurate lol
Quote from: SGR on May 08, 2025, 10:02 PM(https://media.tenor.com/M_reJOPNkQEAAAAe/anthony-edwards-send-da-video.png)
Also, at this point, if there's anything Kanye keeps secret, I'm not sure I wanna know about it. :laughing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/s/SgJ1LwNSE5
It's a video that got posted on reddit.
Quote from: SGR on May 08, 2025, 06:49 PMI see the twitter link JJ posted got axed/deleted, so for those who care to see the video, here it is (for however long it stays up before it certainly gets axed for violating the Youtube TOS):
Honestly, he completely botched it imo. Way to disappoint the Furher with your overproduced trash, Kanye. I'm guessing Hitler would stick to his Wagner.
The Unreleased version was a lot more catchy.
But honestly, this Redbar cover of Cousins is the best Ye song I've heard in a while. Not to say that I really listen to him much.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 08, 2025, 11:38 PMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/s/SgJ1LwNSE5
It's a video that got posted on reddit.
I hadn't seen that Ye tweet - "open casting call for
volunteers"? So these dudes in the video didn't even get paid? :laughing:
Quote from: Jwb on May 09, 2025, 01:59 AMHonestly, he completely botched it imo. Way to disappoint the Furher with your overproduced trash, Kanye. I'm guessing Hitler would stick to his Wagner.
The Unreleased version was a lot more catchy.
He got 30+ shirtless dudes in a dark, musty warehouse, so I'm guessing he really wanted to focus/magnify the harmonies of the
Sieg Heil choir. But not a single nazi salute or even a cheap armband in the video? Whatever happened to commitment to the bit? Y'know, like Cartman?
Quote from: SGR on May 09, 2025, 04:25 PMI hadn't seen that Ye tweet - "open casting call for volunteers"? So these dudes in the video didn't even get paid? :laughing:
😂😂😂
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 09, 2025, 04:52 PM😂😂😂
Other funny parts from the tweet:
"NO FAT PEOPLE
The skin complexion of Sean Combs or darker
With shaved heads OR must be willing to shave head if approved
MUST BE COMFORTABLE WEARING SWASTIKAS"
:laughing: :laughing:
lol I remember seeing it at the time, didn't remember the swastika thing though.
Some of them don't have shaved heads in the video?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 09, 2025, 05:35 PMlol I remember seeing it at the time, didn't remember the swastika thing though.
Some of them don't have shaved heads in the video?
They're not wearing swastiksa either. Who knows, maybe they shot multiple videos?
Kanye is the stereotypical divorced dad to satirical levels.
I mean the shirtless dudes tracks with the nazis' passion for homoeroticism.
What would happen if Kanye actually opened a book and found out that Hitler didn't like Christianity and only tolerated it because he preferred it to atheism?
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on May 09, 2025, 05:48 PMWhat would happen if Kanye actually opened a book and found out that Hitler didn't like Christianity and only tolerated it because he preferred it to atheism?
I mean....nothing probably. Don't think Hitler's heresy would bother Kanye very much. Depending on how much he read, maybe he'd start identifying as a Positive Christian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity). :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on May 09, 2025, 06:14 PMI mean....nothing probably. Don't think Hitler's heresy would bother Kanye very much. Depending on how much he read, maybe he'd start identifying as a Positive Christian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity). :laughing:
He'd probably just claim the book was written by a Jew. I make the mistake of expecting fascism to adhere to logic when it never really has. Probably because he's biracial.
I think he will come out next and either defend noncing or identify as a nonce.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 09, 2025, 06:32 PMI think he will come out next and either defend noncing or identify as a nonce.
Isn't there a song on the album called "Free Diddy" or something lol. We might already be there.
Quote from: Lexi of the Dawn on May 09, 2025, 06:36 PMIsn't there a song on the album called "Free Diddy" or something lol. We might already be there.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but I think there's probably a reason Justin Bieber has been acting so strangely since the Diddy arrest. Kanye has been vocal about the 'Free Diddy' stuff.
Quote from: Lexi of the Dawn on May 09, 2025, 06:36 PMIsn't there a song on the album called "Free Diddy" or something lol. We might already be there.
Haven't heard it tbf but yeah.
I can see him tweeting in support of it as well though.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 09, 2025, 07:14 PMHaven't heard it tbf but yeah.
I can see him tweeting in support of it as well though.
"FREE JARED FOGLE" tweet incoming?
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Still won't let me see my kids
Banned me from the telly
So I became a paedophile
Now free my man R. Kelly
New lyrics (probably).
Still ain't seen my kids
So here's another song
Free Peter Skully
He did nothing wrong
I may have an unpopular opinion here but I don't think they should censor this song or take it down.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on May 11, 2025, 10:11 PMStill ain't seen my kids
So here's another song
Free Peter Skully
He did nothing wrong
I may have an unpopular opinion here but I don't think they should censor this song or take it down.
Same tbh.
Sometimes you've got to let people expose themselves (not like that). Just let them show you who they are.
By censoring and taking it down it'll add fuel to his theory that he's being silenced by the Jews.
Quote from: Lucem Ferre on May 11, 2025, 10:11 PMI may have an unpopular opinion here but I don't think they should censor this song or take it down.
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:laughing:
https://x.com/TowerGangToad/status/1921341252538175654
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Kanye West's New Album Might Be Banned In Russia Due To Nazi References (https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/910285-kanye-west-new-album-banned-russia-nazi-hip-hop-news)
I reckon he's more of a swinger than a cuck.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 11, 2025, 10:19 PMSame tbh.
Sometimes you've got to let people expose themselves (not like that). Just let them show you who they are.
By censoring and taking it down it'll add fuel to his theory that he's being silenced by the Jews.
They won't let it stay up. They always take down my favorite videos.
Great videos I wish I could still watch but can't find:
-Westboro Baptist Church burning a Quran wrapped in an American Flag, singing "Hate is a victory"
-Fat feminist getting pushed over during an argument with the Black Hebrew Israelites, and then she gets arrested
Anyone who has seen or can locate these videos would have my undying gratitude.
QuoteWestboro Baptist Church burning a Quran
Oh shit I might have to join them.
QuoteFat feminist getting pushed over during an argument with the Black Hebrew Israelites, and then she gets arrested
😂
If you find them let me know.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 12, 2025, 04:03 PMOh shit I might have to join them.
😂
If you find them let me know.
the best part about WBC is they have so few members precisely because they attack virtually every group or side of the isle. When they burned the quran, it was back in like 2010 when some pastor in Florida was planning to burn a Quran but ended up backing down.
So WBC decided to burn one. And they might have actually gotten some support from the right if they had only ever attacked Islam. Unfortunately for the right, they also wrapped the Quran in the American Flag and their other pet issue just happens to be cheering on the deaths of American troops as being part of God's vengeance.
Quote from: Jwb on May 12, 2025, 04:19 PMthe best part about WBC is they have so few members precisely because they attack virtually every group or side of the isle. When they burned the quran, it was back in like 2010 when some pastor in Florida was planning to burn a Quran but ended up backing down.
So WBC decided to burn one. And they might have actually gotten some support from the right if they had only ever attacked Islam. Unfortunately for the right, they also wrapped the Quran in the American Flag and their other pet issue just happens to be cheering on the deaths of American troops as being part of God's vengeance.
WBC is something I haven't heard or thought about in 10+ years. Are they still active?
I know in 2013, after the Moore, Oklahoma tornado - they came to Moore to protest in favor of the divine judgement of the tornado and by extension God. :laughing:
They had a frosty reception, to say the least.
The best part about the WBC imo is that these two houses are right across the street from them.
(https://i.ibb.co/JFWRXFks/480262976-947907817424129-1291992072769325873-n.jpg)
Quote from: SGR on May 12, 2025, 03:27 PMKanye West's New Album Might Be Banned In Russia Due To Nazi References (https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/910285-kanye-west-new-album-banned-russia-nazi-hip-hop-news)
They are also banning it because of the gay lyrics. They are super anti LGBT in Russia.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 12, 2025, 04:38 PMThey are also banning it because of the gay lyrics. They are super anti LGBT in Russia.
Yes, the article did mention that as well (although they hint at it with "non-traditional sexual preferences").
What's the gay lyric? The cuck bit?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 12, 2025, 04:48 PMWhat's the gay lyric? The cuck bit?
The Cousins track is on the new album. So him sucking off his cousin.
Ye says the redbar cover of Cousins made him cry lmao
Redbar was right when he says we've entered "Cousins era" of zesty Kanye's career
Quote from: SGR on May 12, 2025, 04:29 PMWBC is something I haven't heard or thought about in 10+ years. Are they still active?
I know in 2013, after the Moore, Oklahoma tornado - they came to Moore to protest in favor of the divine judgement of the tornado and by extension God. :laughing:
They had a frosty reception, to say the least.
ngl, a sign with a crude picture of a tornado and the words "GOD'S FURY" underneath in large bold face letters is just peak WBC. I don't think it's possible to make a better picket sign than that.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 12, 2025, 04:03 PMOh shit I might have to join them.
😂
If you find them let me know.
I actually decided to try googling again and it popped up on an incel forum :laughing:
Still would also love to rewatch that video of WBC burning the quran/ American Flag.
A cover of HH
https://x.com/georgefloydhigh/status/1921522916191023466?t=GVEreIkZetzR2Acgs-bcMw&s=19
I also heard a Bar Mitzvah version too but can't seem to find it now.
Batlord would have loved this song. R.I.P.
Waddya mean, RIP? What do you know that we don't? Nervous comic book shop owners want to know!
Quote from: Trollheart on May 12, 2025, 11:15 PMWaddya mean, RIP? What do you know that we don't? Nervous comic book shop owners want to know!
He's not here with us anymore.
On the forums, I mean.
He's probably still alive, though. IDK I don't have contact with him.
He's posted occasionally on the MB discord, though it looks like his last post there was 7 months ago.
Quote from: Lexi of the Dawn on May 13, 2025, 02:07 AMHe's posted occasionally on the MB discord, though it looks like his last post there was 7 months ago.
SCD > MB discord.
Breaking news: after a scare yesterday comic book shares recovered well on the news that the Batlord is still around. Owner of The Android's Dungeon, Comic Book Guy, said "Worst. Scare. Ever."
Spotify, SoundCloud struggle to remove Kanye West song glorifying Hitler, which has racked up millions of views on X (https://nypost.com/2025/05/12/business/spotify-soundcloud-struggle-to-remove-kanye-west-pro-hitler-song/)
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1922265358976610477
::)
Guy literally said he didn't give a shit about Palestinians at the beginning of this.
He probably means free it up for Trump to make his luxury resort.
(https://preview.redd.it/horseshoe-theory-in-full-effect-v0-l5lu2dle1k0f1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89df1334284fd2633b921fcd4c0777d9273af774)
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 12, 2025, 09:14 PMA cover of HH
https://x.com/georgefloydhigh/status/1921522916191023466?t=GVEreIkZetzR2Acgs-bcMw&s=19
I also heard a Bar Mitzvah version too but can't seem to find it now.
A Bar Mitzvah version? Oh jeez. :laughing:
Someone did a piano cover of it.
Hippo hungry hippos, they don't understand the things I eat for dinner... :laughing: :laughing:
https://x.com/DatDaDatty/status/1922719448672137670
https://x.com/GhostTownYZY/status/1922815357556764964?t=_lXtRSSacxG_nv0Hu-gxSg&s=19
Is it just me or is this video trans positive?
Cuck leaked.
https://on.soundcloud.com/dLNSGzJxxoVKntw97
Listen to it while you can before SoundCloud takes it down.
Some of these song titles are hilarious though. "Cosby" "Jared" "Diddy Free" "Gas Chambers"
I'd expect the level of cringe edgelordery in all those titles from someone literally a quarter of Kanye's age.
Poopity Scoop was more clever.
He changed HH to Free My Kids and changed the beat and took out the "n HH" chanting part.
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 19, 2025, 11:28 PMCuck leaked.
https://on.soundcloud.com/dLNSGzJxxoVKntw97
Listen to it while you can before SoundCloud takes it down.
Some of these song titles are hilarious though. "Cosby" "Jared" "Diddy Free" "Gas Chambers"
ILY x
Quote from: DJChameleon on May 19, 2025, 11:49 PMHe changed HH to Free My Kids and changed the beat and took out the "n HH" chanting part.
Pussy!
Not you, him.
QuoteThe album was leaked in its entirety on May 18, 2025, following a charity group buy; the proceeds of which were donated to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
OK maybe that's why HH isn't on it.
Some of these beats are great tbf. How can I download it?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 20, 2025, 12:12 AMSome of these beats are great tbf. How can I download it?
Ooh I'm not sure. I think if you logged in with a free SoundCloud account you probably could. Is it still up?
https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1925492978300178513?t=8dnFx41de1dCKcX3TZ8eOA&s=19
We will see how long this lasts. He was tweeting peace and love last night maybe the events of the DC couple getting murked had an affect on him
Murked?