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Title: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 25, 2025, 04:29 AM
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FYI, although this originally began as a US show with the now-president and resident Nazi in the White House, I flatly refuse to cover the American version as I can't stand the man's face and I have no intention of ever watching it again, given what's happened. Totally understandable, I would hope.

Instead, I'm going to be concentrating on the UK version, which certainly has run for enough seasons already to keep me going, with a new one starting next week.

In case anyone is unaware of the format, and cares, here it is. Fourteen hopefuls, supposedly the best British business has to offer, come to  be introduced to Sir Alan Sugar, later Lord Sugar, who will, at the end of this process, award one of them with a high-flying, high-paying job with one of his many companies. For fifteen of them, it will be the door out of the Boardroom and the taxi home, for one it will be the beginning of a life and a career that they could only dream about. But the candidates will, initially, have to learn to work together if they want to win each task. Split into two teams, they will compete and vie for the top prize, and each week one person in the losing team will be sent home.

Each team picks a Project Manager (PM) who is responsible for the task, for getting people to work together, and for all decisions taken regarding that task, good or bad. If that team wins, the PM stands to be rewarded and praised, but if it fails, more often than not he or she will be in Sugar's firing line. It doesn't necessarily follow that every time a task is lost the PM will get the bullet, but he or she will have to bring in two of their team whom they feel did not contribute well or even at all to the project, or who perhaps they believe or wish to impress upon Sugar are in fact responsible for the loss. He or she will have to fight their corner though, as nobody is going to go down easily here, and two people brought in together may very well decide to gang up on what they may see as a weak PM, perhaps resulting in his or her being fired.

Shadowing each team every week will be one of Sugar's two closest advisors, and this changes over the seasons, as often previous winners are brought back as advisors, but whoever it is will have the same brief: observe how the teams work, what they do on the task (or don't do) and report back to the boss. Should someone make a claim that is untrue, whoever has been following them  may tell Sugar they are lying, or that it did not quite happen that way, so there is not too much room for flim-flam or bullshit. Before they can be told their first task the teams have a look at where they're going to be staying for thirteen weeks, usually a top mansion laid on by Sir Alan, and are told to choose a name for their team. Iniitally it tends to be boys vs girls (or men vs women if you prefer) but as more and more people leave the process this usually becomes unsustainable, and Sugar has a penchant for mixing the teams up anyway, either to balance out what he sees as strengths and weaknesses, or just to throw them into confusion and perhaps insert a certain bird among the felines.

Season one, episode one:
"Wilting Blooms"


Meet the candidates

Although we'll find out more about each person as the series progresses (other than the first one fired, of course) here's a basic rundown of who arrives in the very first boardroom, dreaming of a new life and looking for the start Sir Alan Sugar can give him or her. I'll list them alphabetically.

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Sir Alan's eyes and ears in the first few seasons are Margaret and Nick, Mountford and Hewer respectively. He also goes to great lengths to point out that he and he alone has the power to decide who will be fired, as if he's laying down a marker, to tell the BBC or whoever makes the programme that they will not tell him who is to be fired, that it might be better for viewing figures if this or that person got the bullet or was kept. It's clear he intends to maintain total and direct control over the show, and he sets his stall out from the very start. He also makes it clear he is not impressed by diplomas, degrees or any other paraphernalia. One of his catchphrases will become "I don't like bullshitters", and he doesn't. If someone is making themselves out to be other than they are, or is exaggerating the truth, he will not stand for it. He's also hates those he considers flying under the radar, or "hiding in the long grass", and there's really no place for those who don't pull their weight, and are seen not to, or accused of not doing so.

Right away he leaves the candidates under no illusions, telling them this is a  "job interview from hell". They should know what to expect, and if they fail to perform he will have no hesitation in kicking them out. He's an East End boy (grew up in the East End of London) and a market trader,and almost insults the candidates, and in later episodes and seasons will. He makes no friends and accepts no attempts at currying favour: the only way to win this boss over is to win the task, and win it big. And keep winning. He will be drilling down into the details of every task with the teams, and there will be no hiding place. Some of the candidates may come to regret ever having signed up for this!

The first thing the candidates have to do, having been split up into the traditional women vs men teams, is pick a name, and though the men come up with theirs - Impact - pretty quickly, the women spend over an hour deliberating until they finally come up with... First Forte? What the fuck does that mean? Something is either your forte or it isn't; you don't have a first or second forte!

As for the task? Well, he decides to take his people back to basics by selling flowers on the streets of London. Furnished with £500 seed (hah) money, they will go out in the morning and whoever sells the most and makes the most money will win. Saira, in charge of the women's team, seems to be locking horns with another member, Miranda, shooting down her suggestions and cutting her off all the time, making it seem like she's not but in fact being quite rude and bossy (though I guess she is the PM and has to take control) while Tim, leading Impact, listens to suggestions including going door to door selling the flowers.

The Task
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At Covent Garden flower market both teams have the opportunity to buy the flowers they want, at the best prices they can manage. The boys, on advice from one of the professional sellers here, go for lilies, while the girls seem confused and divided, and are late finishing, with many an argument on the way. As he often will do, Sugar has set up a pitch for each team, this time in Portobello Market, from where they can sell as well as do their other sales door to door or on the street. But when they arrive, all they see is a blank space. There is nothing to sell on, no stall, no tables, no display. The girls, arriving first, have used their charm to get a table from a nearby butcher shop so the boys decide not to compete for now, and go door to door instead. Matthew, who lives nearby, directs them to the places he believes they will be most successful.

As it turns out, whether intentional or not, Sir Alan has chosen for them spots in a fairly ordinary market, and there's little or no footfall. Nobody is interested and so the girls are having a hard time selling. On the other team, Paul turns out to be a selling phenomenon, charming, cajoling or wooing everyone he meets into buying the flowers. Even the traditional English downpour can't dampen his technique, and the girls realise (after two hours) that they're getting nowhere at the market, and move on. They begin to sell on the street, but Miranda makes an executive decision to offload some of her stock on a local shopkeeper at below cost price. That's never going to go down well!

As sales begin to move for the girls Saira seems to be the main seller, and as the day begins to wind down she decides they should head to King's Cross railway station, while the boys go to Baker Street. Probably a bad move, as they both find out to their cost. People on the way to or from trains are not interested in buying flowers. Nevertheless, the girls do manage to sell out before the deadline, as, a short time later, do the boys, but only by slashing prices to the bone, a tactic the girls have not resorted to (other than Miranda's earlier unsanctioned below-cost sale).
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And now for a word..

Nick and Margaret frequently give their considered view as the task progresses, so here I'll note whenever they say anything about it that I believe is worth mentioning.

Nick (following First Forte): "They're running out of time. There are some good ideas in there, but they need to start buying or they'll be in trouble."
(He's referring to the scatterbrain approach of the girls, who are trying to decide what they need to buy to "dress up" their bouquets - ribbons, bags etc - while not actually concentrating enough on buying the actual flowers.)

Nick: "I think they've got confused. This is an ordinary street market but there's no traffic here. It's a residential place, local people come here to buy their vegetables. I think they're going to stay here for about twenty  minutes and get disappointed."

Nick (yeah, Margaret is keeping schtumm it would seem!): "The only salesperson there is Saira. It's not pretty to watch, but it's effective. It's almost physical. It's a bit confrontational, but she's shifting the merchandise."
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The Boardroom

I should point out that a condition of Sugar's process is that everyone must give up their job to be selected, meaning that whoever is picked eventually is immediately available for work. However this also means that the other thirteen candidates are now out of a job, unless some under-the-counter/gentleman's agreement deal has been worked out, of which we are not advised. To all intents and purposes though, fourteen people leave their jobs to vie for this one, and thirteen are going to find themselves unemployed at the end. It does add a level of seriousness and tension to the show, and is I guess meant to ensure that the candidates work even harder to be the chosen one.


The boys come in with the first win and beat the girls quite comfortably. Sugar is impressed, and says so. Miranda, not surprisingly, is taken to task over her early-doors cut-price strategy; Sugar says that the time to re-evaluate prices is maybe 4 or 5pm, near the end of the task, not 1pm. He says he detects an air of panic and he's not wrong. Also unsurprisingly, when asked who she wants to bring back Saira choose Adeneike, whom she had something of an argument with, and Miranda.
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Behind the Boardroom Door

This is a mostly short piece where I let you know what the two advisors have to say to Sugar about the remaining three candidates. Sometimes their opinion can point you in the direction of seeing who is likely to get fired, sometimes not. Sugar listens to them, respects them, but he always has the final say and will often go completely against their advice.

Not quite sure why, but the three of them talk in really low voices so it's hard to make out what they're saying, but I do hear Nick mentioning that Adenike was "a real thorn in Saira's side"...
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And then there were three

The second part of "The Boardroom" is when those who have managed, by dint of hard work, alliances or just pure luck to escape for another week are allowed to go back to the house and the PM plus his or her two chosen candidates face Sugar to see who will end up being fired.

Miranda's interrogation continues; Sugar tells her he can only see what she did as panic, no matter how she tries to justify it. Selling at a loss just cuts him up, it goes against everything he believes in. Adenike tries to claim she sold well when Sugar takes her to task but Nick shakes his head and says, as we saw, that Saira was doing most of the sales. She however then puts her foot in it when she blames her two teammates for not following her strategy, and Sugar reminds her that she herself told him a short time ago that she allowed some of her team to operate semi-autonomously, as they had greater experience in sales.

It looks like Miranda is for the chop, but as he will often do, Sugar surprises everyone and goes for Adenike, believing her questioning of the PM's strategy was unforgivable, even though Miranda's losing money for the team sticks in his craw. He tells her in particular she is lucky, and Adenike becomes the first one to be fired, which is just as well, as it's hard to remember the spelling of her name...

After the Firing

Generally, Sugar often does a little post-mortem of a few words, backing up the reason he fired who he did.

"That's the way I saw it folks. I think she was undermining exactly everything that was agreed."

QUOTES

Sugar: "Never ever ever underestimate me, because it will be a mistake. I know everything about my business. I know where every nut, every bolt and every screw is in my company. I don't like liars, I don't like cheats. I don't like bullshitters, I don't like schmoozers, I don't like arselickers."

Saira: "I love being a woman. I would never want to be a man."
(Ah, insert your own comment...)

Adeneike: "I see my position in this team as a leader. I've always been a leader, it's all I know. I'm the first child; I've always led. I don't know how to follow."
(This will be a problem: you can't have a team of eight leaders. No matter how the others may want to lead, or feel they should, they need to learn to follow. It's not just good leaders who make good teams.)

Sugar: "No disrespect, I felt sure the ladies would win. I'm impressed. And not many people impress me."

Sugar: "Anyone can sell at a loss! I can go out on the streets and sell ten pound notes for nine quid all day!"

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Thoughts in the cab

Each person fired gets their chance to make some final comments on the ride away the building. Occasionally it's a frank admission that they weren't good enough, sometimes (usually) it's a belief that Sugar was wrong to fire them but it can also be an opportunity for cheap shots at those left in the process, especially if there are any feuds or rivalries to be addressed.
Adenike: "I am obviously quite a strong-headed person. I like to get my opinion across, especially when things don't seem quite right. If you're actually fired for not supporting a losing strategy, that's fine. I'm proud of what I've done, I'm proud of all my suggestions. The bottom line is I have been fired and you just have to accept it and move on."
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You're fired!

Here I'll be looking at the candidate who was fired, telling you what I know or can find out about them, and referring to anything they did in the task(s) on which they worked before being shown the door. If I can, I will also research how they've been doing since the show, if they've gone on to be a success or have never been heard from again.

Name: Adenike Ogundoyin
Age: 30
Occupation: Restaurant Manager

I can't tell you all that much about her as she was the first to go, and didn't really distinguish herself other than by her disruption of the team and her questioning of Saira's decisions. It was she who wanted to target hospitals and funeral parlours, leading to Margaret's incredulous comment "You wanted to ring funeral directors in the middle of the night, and get them to step out on the pavement and buy sixty quid's worth of flowers from you? That was your strategy, was it?"

She came across as quite sullen, making you wonder why maybe she didn't put herself forward as leader if she thought she was so great, and was another, like Miranda, who refused to accept that she had made mistakes. She originally came from Nigeria, and very sadly, died in 2011 after collapsing at a meeting. There is no information on how she died.

Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 25, 2025, 04:30 AM
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In this section I'll look at whether the leader of each team did a good job, should have been in charge, or whether they made a mistake in stepping up and in so doing, in the losing team, threw the task.

First Forte: Saira was a good leader, per se, though she seemed to be one of these hands-on people who have to do everything herself, and she certainly didn't entertain any dissension in her ranks. As one of them put it, she was quite dictatorial, but it more or less worked. She's quite arrogant and condescending, as she says herself in her bio, people can see her as a little bossy. Indeed.

Impact: Tim certainly had a clear startegy and knew what he wanted to do. He used his people well, didn't worry about personal sales - Paul was clearly the best salesman by a mile and he let him run with it, resulting in a huge win for his team - and generally nobody seemed to step out of line or disrupt the team really. In other words, there was no Sam.

May the best team win?

Sometimes you can tell who's going to win, sometimes it's up in the air. A simple mistake, a few quid or a bad decision can change what should have been a winning team into the one who returns to the Boardroom to face Sugar. Here I'll pore over whether the team that won should have, in my opinion, if I could have predicted they would win and if they deserved to.


Hard to say really, as this was only the first task and for me it looked like it could have gone either way. But compared to the squabbling, one-upmanship on the girls' team, Impact was an ocean of calm, so it's not too surprising that they won. Mind you, the last pitches were disastrous initially for both teams, but Miranda's "panic selling" earlier probably lost them a lot of their potential profit. Nevertheless, I doubt I could have called this.

Weeding out the weaklings

As the weeks go on, it gets easier to see who is going to thrive and who is likely to fall by the wayside. Sometimes there are clues to this from the start, sometimes people's weaknesses will only become apparent later in the process. Here I'll be singling out the ones I consider weak and seeing how long they last. Admittedly, I've seen the show and know how it ends, but it was years ago and though I remember the overall winner I couldn't tell you how the rest did.

A little early but I saw nothing from Miriam, Raj, Sebastian, Rachel or Linday, and Adele seemed to do nothing but complain.

The Front Runners

Again, too early to say but Tim and Paul seem to be the two standing out. Saira is good but her abrasive and condescending personality may lead her into trouble with her team.
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Sight Adjustment?

Although he says he always decides with his head, sometimes Sugar will allow his heart to rule his decisions. If he sees something in the candidate that perhaps nobody else sees, especially if he says he sees something of himself in them, he may allow them a pass. Similarly, if they have done well up to then but just let themselves down this week, he may decide not to fire them. Sometimes I agree with these "stays of execution", sometimes not. Here is where I'll examine whether the candidate who was fired deserved to be, whether Sugar made, in my opinion, the right decision, or whether someone else escaped who should really have been walking out the door.

Personally, I think selling at below cost price (twice) was a miscalculation Miranda should not have been able to come back from. I think she directly contributed to the team's poor performance, I think she made an unilateral decision that should have been cleared with the PM, and when called on it she did not hold up her hands and admit she had been wrong, she still tried to justify the unjustifiable. I suppose Sugar must have seen something in her but I would have fired her. Adenike was culpable too but not in my opinion as much as Miranda.

Adjustment required: 60%

Oops!

Not to harp on about it, but selling so early at so low a price was a serious flaw in Miranda's logic and, had the takings been a little closer and the girls just narrowly beaten I think she would have had to shoulder the responsibility for that.

The one that got away
Even in a winning team there may be those who escaped by the skin of their teeth, the sort of person whom you know, had their team lost, would have been in the hot seat. Of course, there are "the ones that got away" in the losing team also: only three members in total can be called back in, one of which is the PM, so in the ones that remain, is it possible someone has dodged a bullet?

For all the reasons already given, I believe Miranda is lucky still to be in the process.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 25, 2025, 07:48 PM
Season one, episode two:
"Child's Play"


Note: there are a few sections I want to add, expand on or change. This doesn't matter of course, as nobody is reading this, but it helps get me through the long winter nights...

In an interestingly tender moment of camaraderie, the boys have brought back a bottle of champagne from their trip to the London Eye, laid on by Sir Alan as reward for winning the first task. However, the very next morning Tim , PM on that task, decides it might be prudent to delay waking the girls until the last minute. He answered the phone, only he and the guys know the cars are on their way, and any advantage they can gain they will take, showing that the time for being a nice guy is, rather abruptly, over before it really ever had a chance to begin. The girls are not impressed; the boys have been expecting an early call, and their preparation, allied to their somewhat, it has to be said, ungentlemanly behaviour, has left them more awake and ready to face the morning than their counterparts, who rise later but still manage to be ready when the cars arrive.

Sir Alan tells the teams when he meets them that he is not just looking for a salesperson. Yes, sales are important but he wants a more rounded individual, someone who can turn his or her hand to any task they may be set. And so today's task is design. They have to design and market a children's toy, and preferably one which will be so popular it will kick off a craze. Of course, the old adage, never work with children or animals, comes to mind, but the teams must take whatever task they're given and complete it to the best of their ability. If there's someone in the team afraid of dogs and they're told to manufacture a new dog food, they had better get over their fear because it will not be accepted as an excuse.

The Briefing
Almost always Sugar will gather his candidates at a specific location, summoning them to hear the details of the task he has for them. Later, these may or may not have links - tenuous or not - to the task, but usually they do serve to highlight British industry and financial might. Here, the first time the candidates are assembled to hear a task outside of the Boardroom, they're called to a luxury car showroom in Berkley Square. Whether or not a nightingale sang there is not recorded.


The Task
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The teams are taken to a toy design company, but will have to come up with the idea for their toy on their own. First Forte's new PM is Lindsay, who has been pretty invisible so far, making this her chance to step out of the shadows and be noticed. She has decided to split her team into a "business team", which will go doing research, checking prices, what's hot and so on, and a "creative team", which will design the toy. Therefore only half of First Forte (the first half, I assume! :laughing:) arrive at the toy designer's, which might look a little odd. The boys elect Raj - doesn't seem to be any reason, any more than there is for the girls to have chosen Lindsay - and they decide to concentrate exclusively on a toy aimed at boys. Makes sense I guess: what do they know about little girls?

Again, the girls seem to be all over the place, rushing here and there as they try to find toy shops, not seeming to have planned anything beforehand. I know this is in the years before Google Maps and mobile phones with GPS, but still, a little research with even a London A-Z or a few phone calls might have made all this somewhat hapless dashing about unnecessary. They however have decided not to differentiate, and to make their toy appeal to both sexes. There's been some crazy talk about semaphore (!) then something magnetic, modular and collectible. What they end up with is a three-pin plug that has live electricity going through it (you plug it in) and it does various things depending on what you connect to it. Naturally, this is shot down immediately by the designers as being unsafe, even dangerous, so they move on with the idea of battling construction robots. The boys have decided to update the idea of Top Trumps, the card collecting game, making an electronic version. Not sure how copyright will work on that. As one half of the girls' team finds great enthusiasm for their robot idea from their focus group of children, Lindsay does what so many other - often losing - PMs will end up doing: ignores her market research in order to bludgeon her idea through. She thinks semaphore is the way to go (god knows why) and she intends to make sure it's the toy they end up deciding on.

In the end, she asks the designers to take on board both the robot and the stupid semaphore thing, which she christens "Secret Signals", giving them twice as much work and proving that she has not listened to anything her own team has been telling her. A sign of a very bad leader. She calls a meeting that night to try to convince everyone - bully them really - to accept her idea. Meanwhile Raj calls Matthew out over reading a book while they're supposed to be brainstorming names for their toy. Matthew is dismissive and rude, and seems to think himself above all of this.

The next morning Impact are on the road before the girls have even risen from bed. When they get to the designers the boys collect their one electronic toy and are very happy with it, while the girls have two to choose from. Only one can be pitched, so until they know which one that will be they're in the stupid and unenviable position of having to write two pitches. They take the two toys to their focus group and the kids vote for the robot, and even though a vote among her own team, which she instigates, has them as the clear winner she decides upon ... Secret Signals. Did we even expect anything else? She already ignored one set of market research, why not another if it furthers her agenda and gets her her way?

Adele again has a problem with Saira, carrying on her argumentative behaviour and moaning from the first task, and it's clear these two are not going to get on. During the pitch Saira goes on at considerable length, spouting a lot of buzzwords and you can actually see one of the client's eyes begin to glaze over as he slumps back in his seat, totally lost and bored at this point. Saira completely misses this and continues waffling. At one point during another part of the presentation, this time given by Miriam, he stifles and covers a yawn. Again, nobody notes this, though you can be sure Nick and Margaret are taking notes. James leads the pitch for Impact, and seems to be doing okay: at least the clients stay awake!

Before he meets the teams in the Boardroom, Sugar has a talk with the toy designers who seem distinctly unimpressed with the "Secret Signals", surprise surprise! The guy who was falling asleep remarks "Maybe if it was 1960 they could have got away with that!" On the other hand they seem to have been really taken with Impact's toy, but do point out that they don't specialise in that sort of electronic direction. Did they though, they say they would probably have ordered it, it was that good. So on the face of it, this would look like another win for the boys. But as ever, it's Sir Alan who makes the decision, and he may feel differently when he speaks to them.
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And now for a word...
Nick: "They had a number of I thought very clever concepts. They came up with perhaps too many - nine I think in all. Some of them I thought were extraordinary. The winner appeared to be a three pin plug, something children are told time and time again to stay away from. And here they are, designing a toy to replicate the look of a three-pin plug. I was staggered!"

Margaret: "It took longer than it should have. They are a bit behind but what they've come up with is a bit of a mixture of what quite a few of them thought of, and that's quite good because it shows they're working in teams. Paul said at one point 'Yeah, that idea is much better than mine', and that's good because he's the sort of person who likes his own ideas. Whether they should have talked to someone at Vivid (the designer) beforehand about generally what was in the market, what you could make for x Pounds etc, I don't know. They didn't do that, they did it the other way round. It may turn out that that was the right strategy. We'll find out."

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The Boardroom

Giving both teams the chance to pitch their ideas to him, Sir Alan is singularly unimpressed with "Secret Signals" - "Looks like a bunch of cards to me", is his verdict, and "Sounds a bit boring." But there is a bombshell waiting to be dropped, when after listening to Impact's pitch he then produces a very similar product which is currently on sale in Argos! Oh dear! Could this be a win by default for the ladies, with a terrible but at least original product?

But although there is doubt in Sugar's mind as to whether the boys just copied the idea or if it's just coincidence that something similar already exists, he tells them that he must really go with the opinion of the experts, who loved their toy, and so theirs is the winner. Or, to put it another way, they could probably have designed a box and a stick and it would have beaten Secret fucking Signals! So another win for the men! 2-0! Lindsay's apprentice candidature is now hanging by a thread. Nobody really expects her to survive. The whole idea was conceived, driven, pushed and bulldozed through by her, and there really is nobody else to blame.

Return to the Boardroom

Here is where I make the first major change. The Boardroom is in fact split up into three sections - four, if you include the setting of the task, though often it will not feature in that: there's the return of both teams as their task is assessed and the winner ascertained, after which the winning team leaves, usually to engage in some "treat" Sugar has laid on for them (dinner, carnival, sport, that sort of thing, often with celebrities whose presence he involves) then the second part takes place when Sugar dismisses the losing team, has them wait outside like naughty schoolchildren while he discusses their failure with his advisors (see "Behind the Boardroom Door") and then calls them back in. At this point, the PM is told to choose, as I already mentioned, two of their team to accompany them back for part three, wherein one of the three will be fired. Therefore I will now have "The Boardroom" followed by "Return to the Boardoom" (sounds like a movie about businessmen, doesn't it?) and finish with "And Then There Were Three".


When asked who do they blame for the failure, surprisingly the girls don't all go for Lindsay, but then it's those who were in her camp, those who were on her sub-team, who kind of defend her, particularly Rachel, who says they were all pleased with the toy. That's a blatant lie. At least Adele admits she hated it and even abstained from the presentation, unable to muster the enthusiasm that would have been needed to pitch it. Miriam twists and turns, but does lay blame at Lindsay's feet for leaving it so late to decide which product they were going with. She is one of the two called back in with Lindsay, the other being, no surprise, Adele.
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Behind the Boardroom Door

Sir Alan: "As I said, several times, they're being awfully polite. When these three come back in she's going to have to give me a very good reason - and the other one's going to have to give me a good reason too; I'm not too clear about what Miriam's position is. She can talk very well, it's kind of like one of those talks that comes over like a drone: I don't even know what she's saying half the time."

Margaret: "It didn't make sense to say I remained equally committed to both. You have to have one you prefer."

Nick: "You've heard more from Adele now than you have since she came here."

Margaret: "I'm not really clear on what Adele did here."

Sir Alan: "Well, it's more what she didn't do. She abstained, basically."

Margaret: "I'm not sure about Adele; she clearly was very passionate about the other product. Whether she didn't help beause of that. And I'm not clear about Miriam then Miriam did the presentation but it wasn't that convincing a presentation."
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And then there were three

Sir Alan immediately latches onto Lindsay's comment that she is "clutching at straws" bringing two people back with her, and asks her what she means. She confirms that there was very little she saw that any of her team did wrong. Sir Alan asks then if she's "flipping a coin" and she gets flustered. When asked who should be fired she says Adele, but Miriam says something interesting. Described in the PM's own words as "dispensable", she says that she had to convince Saira to go ahead with the presentation, that Saira did not believe in the project and also wanted to absent herself from any connection to it. This is in direct contrast to what Saira herself said to the camera, along the lines of yes, I don't believe in the product but I'm a professional and will give it one hundred percent. Whether or not she says this after Miriam has apparently convinced her to stay on is debatable, but it does make me wonder how committed anyone was to this stupid toy other than Lindsay and, to a smaller degree, Rachel, who tellingly was not called back in.

Miriam reiterates, when asked for clarification from Sir Alan, that Lindsay had them prepare two separate presentations, one for each toy, and that she only made the final decision on which one they were going with twenty minutes beforehand. She says Lindsay should be fired. Adele concurs. Things are not looking good for the PM, though Sir Alan does make it obvious that he does not like the idea of someone abstaining and not giving a hundred percent to the product, whether or not they agree with it. He seems to fnd it hard to see any real professionalism there. But in the end he gives Adele a pass. He's not too covinced by Miriam's half-hearted failure to come down on the side of one or the other of the products, unlike Adele, but in the end there can be no ignoring the massive mistake Lindsay made in her arrogance and blinkered manner, and she pays the ultimate price, being the second girl fired.


Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 25, 2025, 09:59 PM
After the firing

Sir Alan: "Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they were sent out to make a toy, not go and dance at two weddings and make two toys. Make a toy. And she made that decision, and all of the rest of them had to admit that. It was her decision, it was down to her, and I got no problem with her going, I'm afraid."
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Thoughts in the cab

Lindsay; "I think I kind of engineered the Boardroom to get Adele sacked, because I felt she was the weakest link. So I put Miriam in, because she's strong, thinking that would then give Sir Alan Sugar no choice but to fire Adele. My values are about making a decision and sticking to it. If it's the wrong call then it's the wrong call, but if you're working for somebody you can't sack them for  making the wrong decision, because you've invested so much money in them you may as well keep them, because they've learned something and they're a better employee after that. So I mean, I don't share Sir Alan Sugar's values, but he's got every right to make his own judgement."

Let's just analyse this. What does it tell us about Lindsay? To me, it tells me first and foremost that she has not accepted that she was to blame for the failure of the task. It also tells me  - well, she tells us - that she was happy to throw someone else under the bus, thought she had orchestrated things so that she would be safe, and seemed to think there was no chance of her being fired. To her, it was a choice between Adele and Miriam, and she didn't figure in the decision at all. Very arrogant, and very blinkered. She also says that if you make a mistake you should be allowed to let that slide, in order to grow from it and improve yourself. Sugar will take this line sometimes, but here the error was just too glaring, and Lindsay stuck too doggedly to her decision and did not accept any responsibility, giving him no choice but to fire her.

Her business ethos is odd: "you can't fire someone for making a mistake"? Surely many many companies do this, and in some cases you're not even given a second chance. I sailed close to the wind on occasion myself and was lucky to still have a job. It depends on many factors, including I suppose how costly your mistake is, how stupid it is, how often you make it or have made it before and whether or not it's survivable. Also whether, indeed, you learn from it, which Lindsay clearly did not: she still didn't think there was anything wrong with her pointless and uninteresting toy. She seems, from this speech, to be someone who makes up her mind and sticks to it come what may, and we've seen in the task this is exactly what she did. Nobody liked her idea, nobody thought it would win, and yet she ignored all advice and ploughed ahead, for no other reason than that it was her idea and she liked it. Arrogant to a fault, and she deserved to be fired.
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You're fired!
Name: Lindsay Bogaard
Age: 39
Occupation: Communications Manager

She came across as highly opinionated, refused to listen to anyone else, bulldozed her idea through, and when even one of her members recused herself from the pitches, showing how little she believed in the idea, still went ahead with the stupid toy. She also - first and I think possibly only one to do so in the history of the series so far - chose TWO toys and left it till the eleventh hour to make her decision as to which one they were going with, which not only left them running against the clock to come up with ideas but also led to her choosing the weakest and most pointless toy. Even after being fired she refused to accept she had done a bad job.

After finishing on the series she moved to the Netherlands, where she now runs a successful communications company. Given that she takes and listens to no advice, you'd have to wonder exactly if this is the right arena for her to be exercising her talents in!

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First Forte: Already gone into at length above, Lindsay was an awful PM. There are certain qualities you have to have to be  a leader of people, and one of these is to listen to the people below you. While I want to make it quite clear I'm not in any way comparing her to Hitler, the same idea of forging ahead no matter what anyone else says, of ignoring advice and seeing only what you want to see was evident in Lindsay's management style. It was almost literally her way or the highway, and if she went down (and she did) it was going to be on her terms. The problem here that Lindsay did not see is that a team is more than one person, and as PM you have the responsibility for every other team member: you lead them to a win, they're happy, but lead them over the cliff and they all fall with you. A PM also has to be able to change, if necessary, horses mid-stream, to realise an idea is not working, and look for alternatives, or, if that's not possible, to put the best spin they can on it. Lindsay did none of these things, arrogantly believing everyone would love her product, and when they didn't, almost glaring at them for daring to disagree.

As I said, for someone whose forte (pun intended) is communications, she didn't do much of that. She stubbornly ignored the results of the focus group, when her target demographic, her potential customers really, clearly voted for the robot idea, which not only insulted the kids but also her own sub-team who had put in the work, and brought her back news she did not want, news that did not fit with her agenda, and so, news she ignored, She took no ideas other than her own, listened to nobody, failed to get anyone on board with her idea, and not only that, had no clear strategy for the task, rushing here and there looking for toy shops. Considering they knew what the task was, surely the first thing should have been to have identified the location of toy shops, of which there must be hundreds in London? Then she had the silly idea of making a toy supposed to appeal to both boys and girls. Do you know of any toy a little boy would use that a little girl would also be interested in, or vice versa? She even failed to see how designing a toy that used live electricity was a non-starter from the off. I don't think she has or had any children, which might, possibly, explain why she was so clueless about toys, but then, why put herself forward? There's no reason given (whether one was offered or not, it's not shown in the broadcast) but you would think that someone with children would have been better. As I say, I don't know if Lindsay has children but it's certainly not mentioned.

PM Rating: :1stars:

Impact: Again, there does not seem to be a valid reason why Raj is chosen. His expertise is in, well, the internet, so I don't know, maybe. But I can't see that he has or had any special credentials that would have marked him out as being a good PM. I also heard the word "bankrupt" before entrepreneur, so that might be a red flag? At any rate, the idea seems to be "anyone will do", and so they choose him. I wouldn't have thought that was the greatest strategy, but since they won, I guess it doesn't matter. It's hard to talk about his leadership style, as from what I saw, he really didn't have one. He certainly did not lead the team, who seemed to function quite well on their own, and when he had a chance to demonstrate his interpersonal skills, finding Matthew reading a book as they brainstormed, all he did was lose it, when he could have taken the guy aside and explained how bad what he was doing looked. But instead he called him out angrily in front of everyone, which didn't help anyone.

Although Raj was, in essence, just as bad a PM as Lindsay, I will always allow one extra star to any rating I was awarding, if that team won (whether by default or deservedly), so while they could theoretically should perhaps score the same, and it's no thanks to Raj that they're not, I do have to award a higher rating as they won.

PM Rating: :2stars:

May the best team win?

Honestly, both the products were shite, and the boys team only won due to Lindsay's stupid "Secret Squirrel sorry Signals" being so much more shite than theirs. Iniitally, their strategy to not tell the girls about the call kind of worked, but really all it did was sow bad feeling between the teams, and I think (though I can't say for sure) that an edict was laid down after this that both teams had to be advised when the call came in. After all, it's very unfair and not at all sporting, and while Sugar would agree all's fair in business, he equally despises those who don't play fair. There really was not much to choose between the teams, or the PMs, and nobody shone so overall you would have to say more that the least bad team won.

Weeding out the weaklings

This week I saw very little from anyone. Two bad PMs, two pretty poor ideas, not much cohesion among the teams, and Impact's sub-team had the crazy and very ill-advised idea to hand sugar sticks around at their focus group. I bet that went down well off-camera! Perhaps the only one to stand out slightly might have been Saira, who dug her heels in and promoted the product even though she hated it and did not believe in it. Perhaps she learned from Adele's mistake last week of abstaining, realising Sugar does not like this, and that he expects everyone to be one hundred percent committed to the task, regardless of their personal feelings. Still, not much to talk about here so far.

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Sight adjustment

Although he wavered slightly, and it did look for a moment as if she would escape, Sugar was unable to ignore how poorly Lindsay had led her team, the bad choices she had made and also the way she essentially made it personal, ensuring her toy was chosen to be pitched, and thereby ensuring the failure of the task.

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QUOTES

Saira (looking at girls' toys in a shop: "Quite girly".
(What the fuck do you expect in the section set out for girls' toys, for god's sake?)

Oops!

Perhaps not quite, but it could have been misinterpreted when Lindsay looks at her watch after the lady in charge of the toy company, who has been asked by them to speak to whether they go with classic toys or design something new, begins talking. She doesn't see it, but had she, she might very well have been offended and as they are to present their toys back here in two days, that could have been a fatal slip.

Another, more damaging slip is of course Lindsay's blind insistence on pushing a toy that nobody except her has shown any interest in, and completely ignoring the focus group's recommendations. Nobody in the team was that enthused about it when she put it forward - most of them didn't seem to even understand it - but that didn't stop her making an unilateral decision that, never mind what the customer wants, this is what I want and this is what they're getting.

Famous last words?

Lindsay: "I think the day is going really well. I'm really pleased, and one of the reasons why I'm really pleased is because I'm finding that a lot of the management styles or leadership styles I'm using are just coming together. I'm seeing my own behaviour in a much better light than I think I've behaved in the past."
(Is this woman on the same planet as the rest of her team? She has totally annoyed and alienated them all, pushing an idea nobody is behind or wants to drive, has given their task a huge millstone as the designers now have to work to produce two toys instead of one, and she has ignored all market research, which is very insulting to the girls who conducted it for her. Her leadership style is to do what she thinks, what she wants, and to hell with anyone else. A case of sticking her fingers in her ears, going la-la-la and screaming very loudly until she gets her own way!)
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 26, 2025, 05:19 PM
Ruminations...

Just in general, it's always seemed to me to be impossible for the phone to ring and the candidates be told they're getting picked up in 30 minutes. Given that they're all in bed, and assuming the house has at best two bathrooms, and even allowing the bare minimum of 5 minutes for each to get ready, the maths don't work. Especially at the start, you're talking 14 people so 14 x 5 = 70 minutes. That's over twice the amount of time they're given. Not to mention, they have to grab a bite to eat as well, and then there's hair drying and makeup - the women too - so it just seems impossible. Of course it's edited, but I just can't imagine the time frame is sufficient, and so have always imagined they have a lot more time than we're told they do.

It's an old-fashioned attitude, I know, but it annoys me when I see men sitting in the boardroom and allowing women to stand when there aren't enough seats at the table. I know, I know: show no signs of weakness, and some of the ladies would probably take offence if they were offered a seat, but really, is there no room any more in the world of business for chivalry? It especially pisses me off when men walk either in front of women into the boardroom or let the door hit them; can't be too hard to hold the damn thing for them, can it?

Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 26, 2025, 06:13 PM
Season one, episode three:
"Shop Till You Drop"


In what will become a regular thing for him, probably once a series, Sir Alan surprises the candidates by arriving in person at the house to deliver their task for this week. Luckily, unlike those in later seasons will be, they're all up and dressed, although they don't expect the boss to call at the house: they're waiting for the phone to ring. But instead, the doorbell does, and there he is on the doorstep, large as life. He immediately elects team leaders on each team: Matthew for the boys and Adele for the girls. Matthew certainly looks shell-shocked and not at all happy; it's clear that it was not in his plans to be in the firing line so soon. He probably intended to wait until a few of the others had been picked off before stepping forward, but now that decision has been taken out of his hands. Perhaps he feels the icy firing finger beginning to swing towards him already?

But Sir Alan isn't through yet. He now reshuffles the teams, with Saira and Rachel going to Impact and Tim, Sebastian and Ben moving to First Forte. The teams are now balanced out at six members each, and there will have to be shared knowledge and effort between the sexes. Incidentally, I was right about Matthew: he says as much shortly afterwards, that he was avoiding being PM. Well he has no choice now. Saira is happy there's been a reshuffle, as she's been curious to see how the boys approach the tasks, and of course now she's out of that poisonous bickering atmosphere that has already lost them two members, two tasks, and which she was discussing with Adele earlier in the garden. Tim is less happy: after all, he's now been taken from the team with a perfect win ratio and dropped into one that has yet to see a single victory. Talk about a culture shock!

Sir Alan tells them that the task this week the teams will embark on a "treasure hunt"; they're given a list of items and have to go out and buy them at the best possible price. The new teams consider their options, now that they have new members and possibly a whole new way of doing things. Adele decides everyone needs a specific area of responsibility, which isn't a bad idea, especially when she makes one person responsible for negotiations, the "voice" of the team, but she goes a little far when she asks Miranda to be her PA. Perhaps the power is going to her head? Nobody seems too enthusiastic; Miranda in particular had voiced the hope that Lindsay would come back, so she's not likely to be too impressed with the woman who, as she sees it, took Lindsay's place.

Matthew, on the other hand, has nothing to prove. He didn't want this job anyway, so it's not that surprising to find that he may critcise, sneer and belittle while not in charge, but when he is, (forced into it as he was), then he is a very weak man. What happens then is that the stronger personalities in the team (male and female), pickign up on this, like sharks scenting blood or lions coming across an older specimen, go in for the kill and basically leave him to the side; they run the team and Matthew is nothing more than a figurehead. This is however unlikely to save his neck if they lose.

The Task
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There are very specific items they have to get, but I won't go into such things here, just give you an idea. For instance, the champagne has to be Bollinger, a certain year etc. Anyway the items on the list are:

After spending the morning prudently ringing around to see where they can get the best deals on the items, both teams leave with £1000 in their pockets. This is all they have to buy the items, which include things like champagne and a diamond. They must of course negotiate the best price and try to come back with at least some of their seed capital to be victorious. As will always be the case, each team divides in two, concentrating on certain items. Impact go to get the champagne but are unable to negotiate a low enough price, and decide to leave it to see if they can do better elsewhere. Quite funny: as they leave the wine merchants there's a traffic warden writing a ticket for them! James asks him not to, and presumably because there are cameras there and he realises he'll be on telly (unless of course it was set up, which I don't know) he agrees not to. Probably the first time someone has talked their way out of a ticket with so little argument; none, in fact.

Saira meanwhile manages to negotiate a few pounds off a mattress: not a lot, but it's better than her teammates are doing on the other sub-team, while Adele's team, with Ben leading the negotiations, get fifteen quid knocked off the diamond. The other half of her team, with her in it, are lost and bickering. Sebastian is not enjoying being the meat in this particular sandwich. As the day wears on the famous London traffic becomes another obstacle to their race against the clock. James goes to a gentlemen's outfitters but discovers they only do second-hand items, and all the items must be new. Adele is treating her sub-team as if she's their mother, and when Miranda gets separated from them she's lucky not to get a spanking from Adele. Now that would bring in the viewers, huh?

Nobody's getting much in the way of discounts really; a few quid here, a few quid there. I haven't seen any great deals, and time is winding on. Adele and Miranda continue to fight, having an argument in public. Adele is a real bitch, acting as if everyone works for her - which technically they do, but only for this one task. It's not like she's paying them or they're her actual employees. But she's very condescending and very rude to her team members. Saira and her sub-team have much better luck. After initially failing to get a "Freeview" set-top satellite box down from £75 they all of a sudden are told they can have it for ... nothing. I don't understand it. The guy jsut made the decision, maybe he realised he was on TV and it would be a good opportunity for him, but for whatever reason, they have it for free, biggest discount of the day.

Now it's a race against time and traffic to get back to the Boardroom, and Sugar will fine them for any items they don't get. They will also have anything they bought disqualified if they don't get back within the time limit. With a few minutes to spare, they all make it.
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The Boardroom

So all prices are totalled, fines are issued for the items that are missing, and a final figure for each team is calculated. At the end of the day Impact win : although they failed to get the bowler hat, their free set-top box must have offset that and they emerge as the winners. Adele must now consider where to place the blame as her new, revamped team has experienced its first loss, she now having lost three times in all.

Return to the Boardroom

When Sir Alan hears from Adele that she made Miranda her PA he is surprised, and asks Miranda how she felt about that. She of course says she felt underused: being a buyer in her business she felt she could have been much more effectively exploited and thereby contributed more to the team, but Adele seemed to ignore her skills. All she wanted was a secretary, and she decided Miranda would be that secretary. One by one, when asked, everyone blames Adele for the failure, and Sir Alan ruefully remarks that it reminds him of when he was chairman of Tottenham Hotspur: "Everything that went on on that pitch I got blamed for, and I don't even play!" He's a little annoyed I think by everyone automatically "blaming the boss", but Adele really does have to carry the can here. She gave no clear strategy or instructions to her team, and assigned tasks and responsibilities almost arbitrarily.

Iniitally, when asked, Adele seems to want to choose three people to come back in with her - Tim, Ben and, surprise surprise! Miranda - but settles in the end for the last two. Not before she and Miranda have another argument which tests Sir Alan's patience and he throws them all out.
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Behind the Boardroom Door

Sir Alan: "I've got an idea but in my mind, I need to talk to them a bit more. I've got to stop this bickering, because it's nonsense, and try to get some sense out of them."

Nick: "You'll get a disciplined answer from Ben, frankly. With the other two, they're just at each other's throats."
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And then there were three

Ben, when asked why he should stay, admits he is confused as to why he is here in the first place, believing he did a good job with the diamond, one of the toughest items on the list to negotiate. Miranda accuses Adele of not having a clear strategy or any structure to the task, but when it comes to time for the decision she does not get an easy ride. Sir Alan tells her that he believes she rebelled; that she did not like the role she was put in and so made it difficult. But he is most upset and disappointed with Adele. He after all chose her as the PM and she let him down, and that is one thing he does not forgive. Nobody makes him look like a fool. Adele is surely on the way out.

But nothing is ever certain or carved in stone with Sir Alan Sugar, and he then turns around and says that disappointed as he is in Adele, he is more disappointed in what he sees as the lack of respect from Miranda towards her PM, and perhaps rather surprisingly, she is the one fired. Adele lives to fight another day.

After the firing

Sir Alan: "I tell you, what saved that Adele this time is that she disagreed with her team leader on the last task, but nevertheless she got stuck in and gpt behind her. What I can't tolerate is somebody in a team who was - I feel was disruptive. And therefore if they're disruptive they're no bloody good, cos I don't think you need saboteurs on the team. You might not agree with what your boss is doing but you gotta get your head down and get on and do it."
(This really surprises me. What a selective memory old Sir Alan has! "Got stuck in last time"? No she bloody didn't! Adele rebelled to the point where she, disagreeing with the choice of toy (as did almost everyone) refused to take part in the presentation, abstaining as she said. How can that be seen as supporting your PM, and isn't that a much worse case of rebelling and being disruptive than what Miranda did?)
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 26, 2025, 06:33 PM
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Thoughts in the cab

Miranda: "My feelings towards Adele right now aren't malice of any sort. I think she's a very confused person, and I think she has quite a lot of insecurities, which manifest themselves in many many different ways. So in some ways it's almost pity – and that might sound quite rich as it's me that's in a taxi on the way home! - but no, I mean I'm completely confident with my position and completely thrilled with the experiences I've had."


Famous last words?

As soon as she gets her team together, Adele is already protecting her arse by telling all her colleagues that, in assigning some of them "senior roles" they are accepting that, should they lose, they are in danger of being brought back in to the Boardroom. Before they've even made a phone call, she's talking about losing. And they do. The prophecy is fulfilled.
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You're fired!
Name: Miranda Rose
Age: ?
Occupation:Estate Agent

Miranda was probably very unlucky to have been fired this week. Adele was quite calculatingly clever when she offered her the job of being her PA: she made sure to impress upon her that it was her choice, and in a roundabout way was able to absolve herself of any accusation of forcing the job upon her. It's usually difficult to find out what these people did after the show, but from what I can see, Miranda went into acting, and starred in at least two other films or features, The Hotel and Sizism.

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Again, two very ineffectual leaders, if they are so in very different ways.
Impact: Matthew, uncomfortable in the role and somewhat worried now that he may be in the firing line, defers to the stronger personalities on his team and allows them to drive things. Essentially, again, a team succeeds in spite of rather than because of its PM. Still waiting for a born leader to show up.

PM Rating: :0.5stars:

First Forte: If there was one thing this task was about for Adele, it was Adele. She was more concerned with maintaining her rather scatty but iron grip over the task by browbeating her team members and treating them like children. She was totally condescending and again people more or less worked around her, as they were not given any clear directions from her as how to proceed. Another terrible team leader and it's amazing she is still here.

PM Rating: :0.5stars: (and that's only because 0 stars won't register!)

Weeding out the weaklings

Adele for me is a real case of being on the edge. She was lucky not to fall over the precipice this week, but it surely can't be long. She doesn't get on with anyone, is aloof and haughty and rude, is not a good follower and as we see this week, a pretty woeful leader. Sebastian, though we've seen a little more of him this week, was more or less restricted to rolling his eyes as he became the uncomfortable damping rod between Miranda and Adele. I didn't see him contribute much, though there was the huge drag factor of Adele to take into consideration. Still not impressed with Miriam, Raj, Ben, Matthew (despite his being PM) or Rachel. Time will tell if they have anything to offer.

The Front Runners

Saira upped her game this week, with some very good negotiation and some bare-faced lies ("We're the Asian team!" Yeah, with two white guys...) and Paul continues to shine. James is good but his upper-class act comes across as something that will trip him up when they get down and dirty, like in the markets or maybe running a bus trip or god knows what-all. Tim, having impressed previously, is pretty nondescript and inconspicuous here, though in fairness the teams have just been split up, so everyone is kind of finding their feet again. Still...
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Sight Adjustment?

For the first time I believe Sir Alan got it 100 percent wrong. Yes, Miranda was being a bitch of an awkward bitch, but she was talked down to so much by Adele I would not have blamed her. She was not responsible for the loss as she was not really allowed to do anything but take notes, and for him to dismiss her because he thinks she was unsupportive or disruptive is really exercising his veto to the nth degree. Adele should have been fired. Simple as.

Adjustment required: 100%

The one that got away?

Well, who do you think? But apart from Adele somehow cheating death this time, I think that had the boys' team lost Matthew might have had a lot to explain, as he was pretty much useless as a PM, and would likely have been fired.

May the best team win?

I didn't honestly think anyone covered themselves in glory this week. In later seasons I've seen people haggle some serious discounts, but here they got maybe twenty or thirty quid off at best, other than the free box, which was really out of the blue and could not really be attributed to their efforts, as they were as surprised about it as I was. Still don't understand the thinking behind that. But on the basis of how bad Adele's team were led, then yeah, I guess the better (of two quite bad) teams won.

Ruminations...

It's always amused me, this idea of negotiation. Clearly, the whole deal is set up by Sir Alan, and the traders bow to his wishes for the show. But if you or I were to go in to say buy a camera, and said to the shop assistant I don't agree with that price, too high, I only have this much, can we make a deal, we'd be told to go fuck off. Shops, particularly large ones, have no interest in giving single customers discounts; they don't care about our business. Now, if we came in as part of a corporate purchase, sure, we'd get a discount - more you buy, less you pay. But the idea that a bunch of people could simply drive down the price of an item simply by asking, haggling, bargaining? Ludicrous. Maybe at a market, certainly not in for instance a wine merchant.

But that's part, I guess, of willing the old suspension of disbelief, the same idea as I mentioned last time about the incredibly and in fact impossibly short time the teams are given to get ready in the morning. Have to accept some things at face value, and realise that at its heart, The Apprentice isn't really a business reality show, but an form of entertainment. Who really after all wants to see how things work in the actual world of finance, buying and selling, and trading? It would be, I imagine, quite sedate and boring, and would have had this show crashing in the ratings pretty quickly. Like the newspapers, the BBC is all about selling, in its case, ratings. Or, to put another, slightly cruder spin on it, bums on seats with eyes on screens. That's all that matters in the end, and to hell with the reality of life.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 26, 2025, 09:41 PM
Season one, episode four:
"The Harrods' Sales"


(Note: due to some unexpected happenings this week, certain sections are not required. You'll see what I mean...)

Like just about everyone, bar Sir Alan, Tim is amazed to see Adele walk back into the house. As far as anyone could see, she was toast, and deserved to be, and in my estimation got away by the skin of her teeth, a bad miscalculation on the part of the mogul. But as will always happen, the knives, out and sharpened while they wait to see who comes back, are quickly sheathed and false smiles pasted on, and congratulations offered when the one expected to have been fired comes back, against all odds. Sincerity is not something that tends to be too prevalent in this show. To be fair though, Tim says to her face that he did not expect to see her coming back (he's the only one who does - Saira cozies up to her and then later on camera says what she really thinks) and that things will have to change.

Sir Alan meets the teams at a mini-market (on the day they assumed was their day off - soon disabused of that notion!) and tells them that he has secured selling spaces for them in London's poshest store, Harrods, where they will choose items to sell and then, with the help of some of the store's staff, sell them to the public. As usual, whoever makes the most money wins. It's somewhat interesting that he makes the point that the teams are to respect the Harrods staff: they are helping the candidates, he says, and he won't stand for any talking down to them. Perhaps this is linked to Adele's authoritarian management style last week, perhaps not, but he goes to great pains to tell them to check their egos at the door. They're nobody special, not any better than the staff at Harrods - maybe not even as good - and they had better behave.

The Task:
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Project Managers are chosen, and for the first time both are male. Tim leads First Forte for the, um, first time, though this is the second time he's project managed a team,  while James - having initially tried to almost deflect the job onto Rachel - accepts the role at Impact. Surprisingly, perhaps, before they choose PMs neither team asks if anyone has experience in selling in this sort of environment - department store experience. They just ask if anyone wants the job. For once the teams have a chance to brainstorm before the day of the task; that evening they work out what they want to do. The task will run over two days this time, and day one involves heading to Harrods and choosing the items they're going to sell. It also, however, features a rather childish attempt by one team to get the selling area they want by trying to have the other team buy it from them, handing over some of the £600 seed capital they've been given. It's nonsense, and Impact don't go for it, and in the end it's essentially a pissing contest between the two PMs, which to me seems pointless, but eventually they're both settled in and ready to look at products.

Impact are off the blocks faster, going around the store - it's a million square feet, would you believe? - while First Forte are still deliberating over lists, with the result that Tim's team are well behind and rushing to get their products selected before the deadline expires. Even so, possibly because James's team are mired in calculations, First Forte are, literally, first to the office and so have the advantage, getting the pick of what they want. Impact arrive with a single minute to spare: not a good start! Their tardiness also means they miss out on one item they wanted, because First Forte have already chosen it, and in this game it's first come first served. In order to attract customers and footfall, both teams are also allowed to engage services from Harrods. James goes for a children's face painter, while Tim plumps for a pianist. Given that one of their high-value items in a piano costing ten big ones, that's probably a smart choice. Nothing like being able to see the product in action, and I'm assuming none of them play the piano. Plus, a piano being played is bound to attract interest and attention.

James finds, to his chagrin, that the numbers still don't add up. Each team is told they must choose less than forty percent of their items that are Harrods own brand, and his is currently in the region of seventy-five percent, which forces some awkward decisions on him, as he tries to work out what items he can drop. Back at the house, there's a human side of Adele peeping out from behind the hard-nosed business mask, as we hear her grandmother has been taken into hospital, and she's worried about her. Paul is not impressed: he's of the Monty Burns school of thought: "Family, friends, religion: these are the three dragons you must slay if you are to succeed in business." No wonder he's a landlord!

Day two dawns and it's time to sell, sell, sell and perhaps sell a little more. Might be a bit of selling too, and possibly some selling. You get the idea. Despite Sir Alan's warnings though, Adele is snappy and rude to the Harrods floor manager, basically trying to browbeat him when he won't tell her what's wrong with her display - they've been told to help, but not do the thing for the candidates, so they'll just have to take the advice and work with it, but Adele's attitude could come back to haunt her in the Boardroom, especially if her team loses. Saira is similarly unimpressed: I suppose it's hard to hear you've done it wrong, but not how you've done it wrong, but that's the brief the Harrods people have been given, and the teams will just have to live with it. Having managed to get the giant teddy bear (which Impact wanted too, but were second to the post and lost out on) as well as the piano, First Forte are selling well, while James' team are, well, not. So they go looking for advice from the manager of the toy department (seems a bit cap in hand to me, but needs must I guess) and are told they need to make special offers, and have to communicate and advertise these by word of mouth in the shop. Not entirely sure how that's going to work: this isn't Fishgate Market after all, it's Harrods. Can't stand on a box and say "Now then ladies an gennlemen! Who wants a lovely teddy bear for their nipper eh?"

They end up putting Paul into a teddy bear costume, and they're told a half hour is all that anyone can stand in there, as it's really hot with the head on, but it seems to at least be a hit with the children. Well, it would be, wouldn't it? Who doesn't want to see a real live teddy bear walking around? Bears begin to sell, but the face painter has been neglected, left to work for five hours straight, and she's off for a wee. Adele, bull in a toy shop, loudly complains when she can't find her, not realising (or, probably, caring) that the girl hasn't had a break for more than half the day, and gets short shrift from the floor manager, who points out that it's not his responsibility. Which it is not.

As the end of the day nears, in a tactic which will surface again and again in these tasks, panic selling ensues as both teams try to make one last dash for the finish line, offering Harrods gift vouchers with sales, some of which are offered at ridiculous terms, see "Quotes" below.


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And now for a word...

Nick (about First Forte): "Is it down to location, Is it down to salesmanship, is it down to product? I don't know. But at the moment they're outselling Impact, heavily."

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The Boardroom

It's close but in the Boardroom the figures are read out and it's Impact who are the winners, if only by £100. Makes no real difference really, £1 or  £1000, it's still a loss for First Forte, though Tim generously congratulates Impact and then also professes his pride in his own team. Proud of them he may have been, but he has led his team to his, if not their, first loss, and that may very well go against him, especially as this is the second time he's managed a team. It is, conversely, the first time James has been PM, and his first victory. This also means Adele is potentially in trouble; Tim saw how upset she was, and whether or not he saw how she treated the Harrods floor manager, I imagine it was reported back to Sir Alan. Her only hope of avoiding being fired this time would likely rest in Tim's decision not to bring her in as one of the last three, but I think it's clear he will have to. Personally, I think Ben should be there alongside her.

Return to the Boardroom

Playing the part of a proper Project Manager, Tim resists the chance to blame any of his team mates, maintaining that everyone did a good job. When Sir Alan asks him who was the worst salesperson, he dodges the question, unwilling to single anyone out, and when Sir Alan asks why they lost, he says it was down to luck, that Saira sold a bag right at the death, and that put Impact over the top. Sugar doesn't seem too impressed with his evasion, as he sees it, of the question and perhaps avoidance of the responsibility for the loss of the task. He reminds Tim that as losing PM he is in the firing line, a fact of which I'm sure the guy is well aware. He really doesn't do himself any favours though; when Sir Alan goes after Sebastian for essentially doing nothing, Tim protects him! Sugar warns him not to dig a hole for himself.

There's nothing he can do though when Sir Alan tackles Adele, as we knew he would, about her rude attitude towards the Harrods manager. When she sticks to her guns and even accuses the man of having been rude, Nick shoots her down, saying he saw nothing but professionalism from the man. Not looking good for Adele, who just will not shut up and realise she's backed herself into a corner. Sugar goes for her, reminding her of the specific instruction he gave the teams before the task, to treat the Harrods staff with respect, something she did not do, and is still defending. Considering she was lucky to escape last week, and considering how much Sir Alan hates those who a) don't listen to or directly disobey him and b) are rude to his partners, she's walking a very very thin line here. In the end, she jumps before she is pushed, and decides she's going to be the first (but not only) one in the history of the show to voluntarily leave. I think her decision both takes Sir Alan (and her team) by surprise, and also robs him of the pleasure of firing her, which surely was going to happen, But she's put the gun to her own head and pulled the trigger, and there's nothing can be done.

In the end, he makes a sort of half-hearted effort to fire her - sort of a reverse of "You can't fire me, I quit!" When he tries to say "You can't quit, you're fired!" He does tell her that without her little outburst just now, she was for the chop anyway, and he makes it clear he does not approve of her decision. He also has a go at her about her arrogant and rude attitude towards people, but she's basically already walking out the door in her mind, and when she does physically walk out, there's a smirk on her face that says "I got there first." With her withdrawal, there is no firing, no need to bring two other people back, and the Boardroom ends. I suppose you'd have to give Adele grudging admiration: she controlled her own exit, and decided she had had enough of the process, and in some ways almost left Sir Alan looking both speechless and powerless, neither of which he is used to.

After the firing

Sir Alan: "If anything, one would say, it's cowardice."

Nick: "She's been on the losing side every time."

Sir Alan: "I'm disappointed, because she's bright, she's dead bright. This time, too bright for her own good."
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 26, 2025, 09:52 PM
QUOTES

Matthew (about Adele): "She knows she's made enemies and she knows they don't want her, and it doesn't make for good team dynamics for the next round. She may knuckle down; she may forget about it, We'll say the slate is clean, that's how it happens, the rules of the game, but I wonder whether or not that's true?"

Ben: "My game plan is to cover my back as much as I possibly can. It's about me doing my job first, and then the team second."
(Spoken like a true candidate!)

James: "It's a bit harsh, I think, to blame Paul. But I will."

Saira: "As long as we get more money into the till, I don't care what we do!"
(Spoken like a true... well, you know)

Matthew: "It got to ridiculous levels like, I think it was, buy twenty quid's worth of stuff and you get ten pounds worth of vouchers. Gordon Bennet! That was the deal of the day at Harrods!"

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Thoughts in the cab

Adele: "They probably didn't know that I was going to be quite as spontaneous as I was, and given the circumstances I would have been a target, that's been evident from the beginning: people have wanted to knock me out quite early on in the game. And a lot of people in the house have said I am a lot of competition to them because I've got a very entrepreneurial background, and I think that that was a threat. As the tasks progressed I probably would have become stronger in myself; I do believe I had a good chance of succeeding and winning the competition."

Another case of someone living in their own world, seeing only what they want to see. There was no talk (at least, on screen) about Adele being a threat to others, apart from her bossy and arrogant nature threatening to derail the task. She had a target on her back all right, but it was Sir Alan taking aim at it. As for having "an entrepreneurial background", don't they all have that? Arrogant and blind to the last, it would seem. Considering she was gone this week, regardless of what she did or said, her contention that she believed she could win the competition rings very hollow.

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You're fired!
Name: Adele Lock
Age: 32
Occupation: Retail Manager

It's hard to be sympathetic with Adele; she got up everyone's nose. The week before she was fired/walked, she made enemies of everyone on her team due to her dictatorial style of management when she was PM, and this week she was rude and all but abusive to the Harrods staff, and in the end decided to fall on her own sword and leave the process. It did emerge later that she had had two deaths in the family while in the show, so you can definitely see why she was so emotional, and I suppose in the end, life-changing job waiting at the end or not, your family are still more important than anything, or should be. Adele was the first of a very small handful of candidates to take the power out of Sir Alan's hands and exit the process themselves, and perhaps for that we should congratulate her. Adele now runs a male grooming service, Gentry Grooming.

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First Forte: Tim was an effective leader, again, though this time he was in charge of both sexes, and might have found it harder than when he had just to deal with men. However he seems to have done very well; his team were first past the post to get the pick of the products, yet they were the ones to lose, possibly due to the smarter marketing techniques employed by their rivals (that bear suit!) and he did also have Adele to deal with, a loose cannon in any environment. To his credit, after playing silly buggers in week two by not telling the girls about the phone call, he has settled down now and was even able to offer Adele some time to try to calm her down during the task. Having lost the task, he refused to throw anyone under the bus, a choice mercifully taken out of his hands by Adele, who had been slated for firing anyway. On the face of it, you'd have to say one of the best PMs so far, even if he didn't win.

PM Rating: :4.5stars: (can't award full five-star rating as he lost)

Impact: James is an odd one. He sort of did, and didn't want to be PM, suggesting Rachel could do it, then quickly backtracking when he saw she was not interested. He dithered over figures with Paul, which left their team late to the office and meant they could not choose the products they really wanted. Look, James is a banker. I said banker! Why couldn't he do the fucking figures, instead of leaving them to a landlord? Sure, Paul would need to know how to calculate interest and such, as he said, but James would have been far better qualified to be working out percentages, yet he left it all up to Paul, and then proceeded to blame him when he got it wrong. Nevertheless, he never really gave up when First Forte seemed to be far busier, and he was not too proud to ask for advice from Harrods, advice which in the end contributed to really drumming up business and must have been instrumental in winning Impact the task. As far as leadership goes though, I couldn't see it, and it looks to me like Impact won more because Paul was prepared to sacrifice his dignity and his health in putting on the bear suit.

PM rating: :3stars:

May the best team win?

Hard to say. Both teams, to be fair, performed well this week, and there were flaws with both. Tim did well to keep things on an even keel considering Adele's meltdown, but James only won through having to go asking for advice, so had he not done so, is it possible the other team would have won? Also, with such a narrow margin in it, was he lucky to win? Overall, I'd have to say this was a case where either team could have taken it, both were guilty of errors and both had good ideas, and really neither were better, or worse, than the other.

Weeding out the weaklings
Adele is not suited to the shop floor environment. Not entirely what she's suited to, but she certainly is bitchy and complaining, and seems to think the world owes her a living. Ben has never sold in a shop before and is pretty much useless; despite the Harrods manager's advice that they need to smile to sell, he's more grimacing, obviously wishing the end of the task as soon as possible. Adele proved how unsuited she is to the whole process when she decided to jack it all in, to Sir Alan's disgust.


The front runners

Paul shone on this task, taking on the onerous wearing of the teddy bear suit (a suit, in fact, designed for a small woman, so it must have been very tight on him) and it was due to his efforts that Impact managed to outsell First Forte. He never once complained, except in a joking way, about the suit, though he must have been suffocating inside it.

The one that got away

I feel it might be Matthew this week. He seemed to do very little, had no input, nobody on the team seems to get on with him and I really can't see him lasting much longer. His tenure as PM was shockingly bad, even though his team won more or less despite him.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 27, 2025, 01:10 AM
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The Trollheart Apprentice Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence

Only one candidate can win this each week, and it's not necessary that they be on the winning team, though sometimes they will. It's awarded by me to the candidate I believe made the biggest and best contribution to their team's effort, a candidate without whom, if they won,they would not have won, and if they lost, could have ensured the win had other factors not prevented it.

My pick for this week, you'll not be surprised at all to learn, is PAUL. For his total dedication to the team in wearing that bear suit all day almost, and ensuring that his team came in with the win. Sure, there was only a hundred quid in it, but the appearance of "Susie Bear" kicked off a buying spree in a team that was otherwise experiencing sales lethargy. It was the catalyst for interest, entertainment and, ultimately, sales, that Impact were able to build on, and so I see it as a crucial factor in their narrow win. I'm not sure anyone else would have had the guts to wear that suit, so fair play to you Paul: you may be, and probably are, a shit landlord who squeezes couples for every penny, but you were the star of your team this week.

Candidates' Progress

With now four weeks gone, a third almost of the way in, I think we can begin to critically appraise the candidates and see how they are doing. The more stars they have (five being the highest) the better they are in terms of visibility, though this may not necessarily reflect their expertise: a candidate can be everywhere doing everything but making a mess of it, so I'll do two lists, the first for visibility, the second for actual effect. Remember, a high rating for Visibility may only mean you're constantly hearing that person's name (which could be a good or bad thing; think Adele for instance) whereas a high rating for Effectiveness means they're doing a good job, task in, task out. These ratings will change from task to task.

Visibility

:4stars:
:2stars:
:2stars:
:3.5stars:
:3stars:
:3stars:
:3stars:
:2stars:
:1stars:
:4stars:
[/list]

Effectiveness

:5stars:
:1stars:
:1stars:
:3stars:
:1stars:
:3stars:
:1stars:
:0.5stars:
:0.5stars:
:5stars:
[/list]
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 28, 2025, 03:30 AM
Season one, episode five:
"Art with a Capital F"


After Adele's shock self-departure last week, it's left to the remaining members of First Forte to break the news to the other team as they arrive back at the house. There's not much sympathy for her - especially from Paul - and it seems not too much shock either. Perhaps they had expected it. At any rate, it's done now and it's probably fair to say that nobody will miss her, in fact, with some confidence I can say that her team is far more likely to succeed or at least gell better without her. She was a disruptive influence, and while alliances are often, almost always built in the house, nobody could say they were on her side. However this does leave the teams unbalanced: of ten players left, First Forte now have four and Impact have six. You would expect Sir Alan to shuffle them again, but it seems he won't do that, as he's instructed them to each choose their Project Managers. Unless he's going to ask who the PM is and then switch out anyone but them. Suppose it could happen. It certainly seems an unfair advantage, to have two extra players, but then, maybe he wants to see what First Forte are made of. As for who will be PM, with no idea yet as to what the task will be, Impact argue the toss while First Forte literally draw straws. Sebastian draws the short straw, while back at Impact Rachel takes on the job.

Sir Alan meets them the next morning in Hoxton, which is apparently the centre of the London art scene, and reveals that their task will be to choose a young and rising artist, one out of seven, whose work they will then present and try to sell in a London gallery. He gives Sebastian, as PM of First Forte, the choice of who to pick from Impact in order to level up the teams. Sebastian chooses James.

The Task:
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Impact PM: Rachel
First Forte PM: Sebastian

The teams have to choose from the seven artists Sir Alan has set up interviews with; there are only seven, so if both want the same artist that's going to be a problem. There's a lot of sneering and disdain already, as both Matthew and Paul make it clear they don't rate modern art, and are sort of rude about the art of the first artist they visit. They should bear in mind that, should they end up deciding he's the one they want, and the other team also want him, how they treat the artist is going to factor into his decision as to who he goes with. Rachel does her best to ingratiate herself with the next artist but Paul is very dismissive and crude as to what he thinks of it, which I'm sure she as PM has noted. On First Forte, James and Miriam are much more supportive and understanding, and this seems to go down well with the artists, in this case a couple, Rob abd Nicki. Both James and Miriam have taken on board the possibility that both teams may end up bidding for the same artist, and realise that the nicer they are to theirs, the more chance they will go with them and not the other team. This is a lesson that seems to have passed Impact by, and could come back to hurt them, as Paul continues to frown in disapproval at the "naked lady" art of the artist they're visiting, and Matthew gives a knowing look of condescension to the camera. Rachel must feel frustrated, and as if she visited the artist on her own.

Saira and Raj do in fairness let their artist know that they are not experts, and that they will need her to guide them. Unfortunately Saira seems less interested in the works than in how much they can flog them for, and this looks to have pissed the artist off. She was making a big speech about what her work is and what it means to her, what it represents, and Saira just starts talking numbers. Although of course artists want to make money, it's often more important that thier art is appreciated and understood; it could be said that many care little about how much their work sells for: this is why you hear the phrase "starving artist" so much - of course if they can sell their art they will, but many will create it just for the sheer pleasure, or to make a point or present a way of looking at things. This seems to be what the lady was trying to do, and Saira just basically ignored all that and bulldozed over her. She also called the works "paintings", which really seemed to irk the artist, but I don't think Saira took any notice or even realised she had insulted her. Raj may not as well have been there for all the input he made. In contrast, James and Miriam are spending time with the couple, asking them questions about how they would prefer to have their work displayed, and showing a genuine interest in their art, which seems to have gone down well with the artists.

Saira and Raj are therefore surprised to find the First Forte team still with the artistic couple, and once again launch into how much they can charge, how much they have previously sold, and figures, figures, figures. They don't ask any questions about the works themselves - how they're created, what they're meant to represent, what they mean to them etc - that haven't a commercial aspect behind them, Nicki in particular looks angry and offended. That might be because the team are talking almost exclusively to her husband (very rude) or it might be because these people are reducing her works to pounds, shillings and pence, as we used to say; breaking them down for their monetary, and not their aesthetic value. She does not look impressed, and surely wishes these two money-grabbing philistines would leave as soon as possible. In fact, she pointedly walks away. Not good.

Inevitably, both teams want Rob and Nicki,  and equally inevitably, the two have been far more impressed by the attitude and interest shown by James and Miriam, and so it's First Forte they decide to go with. That was never in doubt really. Saira actually says she felt intimidated by them (in the car, not to their faces of course) when I'm sure the couple felt that way about the two of them, battering them with questions and demanding prices. She's very bitter about losing, again blaming the couple, when it's clear to anyone that the reason they lost was their mercenary attitude and their lack of interest in the actual art. All she and Raj saw was piles of notes, and Rob and Nicki saw right through them. So Impact are left to go with Lucy, the lady artist they didn't quite get on with either, but she agrees and the two teams start arranging the display of the art of both artists. Matthew suggests he go to local art galleries to get tips, when surely the first and most important one is, know something about art if you're going to sell it. If you don't know anything about it, find someone who does. It doesn't seem to me that they've done this with their artist. Art buyers are notorious, from what I've seen anyway, for walking around a piece for ages, asking questions or waiting for someone to talk to them about the art. They don't usually just buy it because it looks nice. Sometimes they do, of course, but they seem to enjoy conversing with other art lovers, and if you're selling the art and know nothing about it, that is very definitely going to factor into their decision whether or not to buy it.

Matthew continues to be a snarky prick, getting loud and boorish when there's some sort of mixup with the other team about invitations to the art galleries, so much so that Tim has to tell him to lower his voice and cool it. The other half of the teams go to drum up business on the street and with local art dealers. It's all a bit messed really; Paul is standing on street corners asking people if they want an invite to an "evening of champagne and canapes", with most people telling him politely where he can stick his champagne, and if there's any room left, why then he can stick his canapes in the same place. James's sub-team seem to be very lucky to run into Suggs from Madness at a radio station, and the singer agrees to attend, which will surely pull in the punters. Especially if he promises not to sing. Raj and Matthew literally go on a foxhunt, pursuing Pop Idol judge Neil Fox down the street till he agrees to turn up for their gallery. Probably more afraid of these two lunatics chasing him than anything else! Impact even in desperation approach a guy selling The Big Issue, who gratefully accepts the invitation, though I doubt the gallery is going to be too pleased to see him stroll into their little soiree!

Since nobody bothered to ask her, Lucy now thinks it might be a good idea if the people selling her art knew a little about it, but nobody except Rachel seems interested. Saira looks at her and you can just see that she's seeing a cartoon stack of pound notes, Paul is rolling his eyes at the nudity, Raj looks like he wonders why he's even there. Nobody even asks a question, and Lucy folds her arms in the well-recognised gesture of defiance, almost daring them to show they have a clue what she's talking about. They don't take the dare. She does not look impressed. Just totally hilarious when Saira, mistaking the Big Issue guy for a rich art lover, starts schmoozing him and introduces the artist to him. I mean for fuck's sake, the guy even has the bag of magazines still slung over his shoulder! Is she that thick, or does she somehow think he's some sort of eccentric millionaire? As if he hadn't annoyed enough people already today, Matthew steals visitors from another art gallery, putting the owner's nose well out of joint. The guy has a talent for getting under people's skin, it seems, but he refuses to see it himself. He has also failed to see that he has now made the artist he's trying to promote (Lucy) an enemy for life. Artists do not forgive and they do not forget, and this man seems to be something of a big wheel in the art world, so Matthew may in fact have scuppered her career bigtime. There are some things you just do not do, some lines you don't cross, and I'm sure the art world has its own code, which he has surely broken on her behalf, and without her approval, or even knowledge.

Unfortunately for First Forte, the high price point of Rob and Nicki's art is proving hard to prise open the wallets, and they haven't sold anything, while Impact are selling well with their lower-priced works. Paul seems to think talking about old cars is a good strategy for selling art. Maybe, if you're talking to some rich old geezer who likes his Rolls and his Bentley, but he's talking to a woman who's sixty if she's a day! What's the point here? He makes some clumsy effort to relate the art to motors, but it's clearly not working. Slowly though, the sales begin to come in for First Forte (perhaps all the champers has something to do with it!) while Saira does her best to further alienate Lucy, first by asking her to drop her price on a painting, and second, and more heinous surely, suggesting there might be a flaw on one of them. She hasn't a clue of course, but now she suddenly sees herself as an art critic. Lucy looks really insulted and angry.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 28, 2025, 03:46 AM
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The Boardroom

Now it's time to find out whether First Forte's charm offensive, which wooed Rob and Nicki to their side, selling the higher-priced paintings has been a winning strategy, or whether, in relative terms, cheap'n'cheerful was the way to go. In the end, it probably won't matter now how the artists felt about the team selling their art: as always, it comes down to the numbers, cold hard cash, sales. Who has made the most profit? For First Forte, the sale of one or two items should put them well ahead, but if Impact sold a lot of reasonably-priced items, they might very well take it. Nick and Margaret have the all-important sales figures, but first Sir Alan wants to dig into why Rob and Nicki chose to go with First Forte and not Impact, but this is mostly brushed aside as the figures are read out. It's an absolute landslide for First Forte, who take 19,000 compared to Impact's piddling 6,000. Over three times as much, which proves that the big ticket items were the route to success, and Sebastian has his first victory in his first stint as PM.

Return to the Boardroom
Rachel stands by her team's performance, doesn't seem to think it was a critical error not to have got Rob and Nicki's work, which easily won the day for First Forte. She also has something of a sly dig at the two boys' prudish behaviour about the other artist, whose work was quite explicit and about which Paul and Matthew were so dismissive, virtually calling it porn, even though both had confessed earlier that they know sod-all about art. Saira and Paul clash over his perceived having a hand in every sale, though he only closed one, and Sir Alan believes - correctly - that he was out of his comfort zone and unable to adapt. Given a chance to defend Paul - which he knows she will not - Saira instead savages him, making him something of a laughing stock. Rachel backs Saira up, making Paul look not only more foolish, but a man who is trying to claim credit for the sales of others. Sir Alan don't like that, no he do not.

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And then there were three...

Rachel chooses to return with Paul and Matthew. No real surprise there, but really it could have been any of them. While they wait to be called back in, Paul has a real meltdown as he basically accuses Saira of throwing him under the bus, saying she could have said she didn't know where her sales came from, they could have come from Paul. She doesn't accept that, and in front of Sir Alan's receptionist (you know that's going to find its way back to him) they have what amounts to a blazing row. Very unprofessional. It looks like he and Matthew are about to gang up on Rachel. She'd better be ready for them. Clowns. They should both be fired.

Rachel goes for Matthew right away, which again is no real surprise; she's already noted how hard he is to work with, then Nick brings up the row Matthew had with Tim, about the invitations, and Matthew kind of hangs himself. Asked about why she has brought Paul in, Rachel notes his attitude towards the artists (both were reprehensible and ignorant, but I guess she thinks she's done enough to sink Matthew by now, with his own help too, and concentrates on the other threat to her remaining) and Paul also does himself no favours when, asked by Sir Alan who should be fired, he refuses to give an answer. That could be seen as loyalty (unlikely) or insubordination. It all depends on how Sir Alan views that response really. In the end, perhaps because he sees Paul as more of a salesman, perhaps due to his contribution to the previous task, or perhaps because he foresees further problems with his team mate, Sir Alan fires Matthew, and good riddance to the big lump.

After the firing

Sir Alan: "Not that difficult for me, really. I mean, the guy can't help himself. He cannot help himself. If people can't work with people, look, I made the point about being a bit selfish, but there is an element of  needing to be a team player also."

QUOTES

Rachel: "Matthew is very hard to manage. He also needs to verbalise his mental processes, which can be exhausting for those around him, because rather than going away quietly to think somewhere and coming to a good conclusion, he uses those around him  as a sounding board."

Miriam: "Really, I don't think we have any weak links, and I think the other team does have weak links."
(Recipe for a winning strategy, if true)

Tim (about Matthew): "He was so adamant that there was this massive conspiracy theory going on that he was bordering on being aggressive."

Sir Alan: "Maybe you'd have been better off sitting on a bomb site (?), with a couple of old second hand cars or something like that, might be a bit more comfortable."
Paul: "I resent that. I can sell anything."
Sir Alan: "But you didn't. You sold one thing. 140 quid."

Sir Alan, responding to Matthew's excuse that he is too tall to hear people below him (!): "I got to tell you son, that ranks high, that does, on the list of excuses. You're doing some of my football managers out of the best excuses I ever heard in my life."

Paul (petulantly, and beyond her hearing): "First time we have a girl as a project leader, and the first time we lose." Is this guy six years old or what?


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Thoughts in the cab

Matthew: "I knew it was going to happen. It was inevitable at one time or another. When, I just didn't know. Little sad it was this one; could have gone a little longer, but I didn't think I was going to be one of the front runners, and that's the way it goes: he had to go with what he thought and it's his decision, it's who he's looking to employ. If he doesn't want an original thinker in his company, that's his problem."
(There speaks a man whose heart was never in this competition: basically he's saying I never expected to win. And he did not.)

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You're fired!
Name: Matthew Palmer
Age:
Occupation: Mature Student (yeah)

To me, "mature student" just means someone who doesn't want to work. I mean, what age was he? And what gave him the idea that he would be able to run a company for Sir Alan Sugar? He certainly set about rubbing people up the wrong way from the start, almost in a more laid back, even bored way compared to Adele's sharp arrogance, but similar in nature. Nobody had anything good to say about him, I couldn't imagine anyone considered him their friend, and he contributed nothing to any task, including the one in which he was PM in name only, leaving others to make the decisions. Seems he went into politics, and was a Conservative councillor for Kensington and Chelsea in David Cameron's government, so around 2009.

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First Forte: Sebastian led the team but again, what did he do? What decisions did he make? To be honest, the only time I really saw him during the task was that altercation he and Tim had with Matthew, and even then I thought he was a lorry driver or something! I didn't see him participate in any of the artist visits (though he may have done, but I don't think so); I think I saw him attempt some sales at the gallery, but overall he did not impress me as being a man who led his team to victory, and I think that hinged with James' coup of getting the couple both teams wanted.

PM Rating: :2stars:

Impact: Rachel didn't seem much of a leader either, though in fairness she did have a lot of time spent trying to keep Matthew under control. She also was the only one of her sub-team who actually tried to be interested in the art, but with the two men tittering and tutting away either side of her, she was on a hiding to nothing. When it came time to defend herself, however, she had no Tim-like loyalty to her team members, and fought to keep her place. But could someone else have run the team? Maybe. Also, why did she not bring Saira or Raj into the Boardroom? It was their lack of interest which lost them Rob and Nicki, whose sales won the other team the task.

PM rating: :2stars:

May the best team win?

In the end, yes I think so. James was so much more invested (no pun intended) in the art that Rob and Nicki gravitated to him, saw in him a kindred spirit who wasn't just interested in money (even though of course this was all he was interested in, for his team) and their decision to go with the higher-priced items helped them win the task. Impact resorted to cheap tricks, trying to steal visitors to another art gallery, and doggedly refused to listen when Lucy was trying in vain to explain her vision, with the result that they knew bog-all about the art they were selling, which may have impacted (pun intended this time) on their sales.

Oops!

As Matthew drones on at Rachel about how they're going to sell the art, two people carrying in a painting have to almost ask them to move. You can just see it in their eyes: "Fucking college types, standing around jabbering - we got work to do here, sunshine! Real work, which you probably never did in your life!" (Got to move those microwaves ovens, custom kitchen deliveries...)

Paul hands an invite to the gallery to someone selling the Big Issue. Oh yeah: mention free champagne and you'll have him and all his mates down, though I doubt the gallery will be too pleased! Ever hear of a select audience, Paul?

While making his excuse about being too tall, it may have escaped Matthew's notice but he basically called Sir Alan a little runt.

The one that got away

For me, this has to be Saira. As mentioned above, she was too focused on how much she could sell the art for and did not listen to any of the artists, particularly and crucially Rob and Nicki, which in turn cost her team the task. She had some crazy idea that she had become an art expert overnight, when the truth was she knew absolutely nothing about it, and even when she realised she was schmoozing a Big Issue seller, she didn't seem to see her error and kept talking to him. She was very lucky to survive, and her spat with Paul in the lobby (though initiated by him) was in no way professional and quite a disgrace. She should have just walked away, but kept arguing with him when there was no need, especially had he been fired.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 28, 2025, 07:03 PM
Season one, episode six:
"Advertising Executives"


Let's be honest here: nobody is sorry to see the back of Matthew. As I said in the last post, he was not liked, was very abrasive and condescending, and he won't be missed. See Paul's epitaph to him in the quotes section. In what will become something of a recurring event, Sir Alan does not meet the teams, though he has the call put through to them to meet him, and the candidates find themselves picked up by an old red London bus. Does this mean that they're going to be running their own bus service, or cleaning buses, or planning routes? Well, no: quite often the location has the most tenuous of links to the task, if any at all, and this is no exception. This week's task is all about advertising (so why he needed the bus is beyond me; could have just had them meet under some big billboard, but Sir Alan is nothing if not a showman) - they will each be given one of Sir Alan's products and will have to come up with a full advertising campaign for it.

The Task:
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Impact PM: Paul
First Forte PM: Miriam

Both teams now have to come up with a TV ad and a press ad, and head to an advertising agency to find out how. Miriam steps up for First Forte, though there seems to be no reason behind this, while Paul, having narrowly escaped firing in the Boardroom, wants to lead Impact. I must say, I foresee problems: Paul is a landlord, with surely little if any experience of advertising, while Miriam's expertise lies in hotel management. Hmm. The product in question is a ten-CD changer (ah, how times have changed!) which only shows, by its frankly shoddy and cheap design, how Amstrad - which, if it exists any more, is certainly one of the smaller market followers, never was a leader - has always been identified with, to be fair, tat. Anyone going out to buy a good stereo or computer or whatever would not have Amstrad in the forefront of their mind. Think Bush, Walmart or whatever your own equivalent is for a cheap, features-lacking, planned obsolescence model. Basically, if you couldn't afford the better stuff, Amstrad was what you might be forced to go for. That's Alan Sugar's empire for you in a nutshell.

Anyway this is the monstrosity the teams have to convince people to buy, through their television commercial and their full-page press ad. Not going to be easy: compact does not seem to be a word Amstrad understand, and it looks, and most likely is, cheap and nasty. But you work with what you're given, and they set to their task.  To be fair to him, the creative director of the ad agency is not impressed with the CD changer, saying that it looks tacky, looks cheap and questions the need for it, but tells the teams these are the questions they need to answer, in order to come up with a proper advertising strategy that will answer them, presumably in the affirmative.

Paul from the start turns out to be another little dictator, not listening to anyone, especially Saira, with whom he's supposed to be brainstorming ideas for the video, but this is a storm of one person only, just the one brain allowed to take part. Miriam, on the other hand, has quickly come to a collaborative decision with her team, and they have a strapline ready ("The jukebox is back" - oh dear, but at least it's something) First Forte are ahead. You'd have to wonder why Paul chose to "brainstorm" with Saira, considering they had all but come to blows last week after the Boardroom, but he seems to think a) she was wrong b) she realised she was wrong and c) she has put it all behind her. He's going to find out that, in all three of those, he is in grievous error. For some reason, when First Forte interview the potential actors for their video, two of them sing the strapline, despite not being asked to do that.

Miriam is told that the area in which they are expected to film their video is, and I quote, "fucking small", which could lead to problems with scenes, lighting, sound - just about everything. Perhaps strangely, she has not checked it out personally, or sent one of her team members to do so, before sending the film crew there, and they are not impressed. Not only that, there is a fucking huge bulky jukebox to be brought in. It sounds like it's going, to coin a phrase, a bit Pete Tong already. The team's attempts to get the bloody thing up the stairs reminds me of those old PG Tips ads, or any video you've ever seen where someone tries to get a large bulky item such as a piano or sofa or mattress up a staircase. It's painful to watch. Paul's video, meanwhile, has me baffled: a mother listening to the Amstrad monstrosity in the kitchen? Claiming it as hers? Why would any middle-aged woman want such a thing in her kitchen? It looks ugly, it takes up space and sockets, and it's likely to get spattered with grease where it is. Pointless. Oh, and Paul's team don't have a slogan yet, despite actually being in the process of filming their ad.

I don't quite get the idea, again, this time though it's why Paul wants his model to laugh as he's listening to the Amstrad thing. Then he cracks a joke which is told entirely wrong. Why does he need a laugh? At least First Forte have been able to adapt their story; as the jukebox is not going upstairs, they use it downstairs instead. It's a bit of creative thinking, and it comes together well with their strapline, whereas Impact's? Well, as Homer once said about a Gary Larsen calendar, I don't get it. The look on the face of Paul's model says "Who the fuck are these amateurs? What have I got myself into with these clowns?" and also possibly "No fee is worth this!" The contrast between the two teams is startling: Miriam is editing the press ad but is in constant contact with the rest of her team as they work on the video, while Paul is editing his video (I'm certain he thinks of it as his, not the team's) and is leaving Rachel and Saira to come up with the press ad, and the two girls are not getting on well. Stand by for fireworks!

In the end, the two of them split up, unable to agree, and work on different concepts. Yeah, that'll work! Even when the graphics artist suggests to Saira that she might want to check with the rest of the team before selecting a shot for the ad, she says no, let's go ahead, obviously believing her decision is the best and she doesn't need to check with anyone, least of all Paul. It will be interesting to see how that goes down. He's still rushing to get their press ad done - with Saira - Rachel has by now thrown her hands up and stepped back and left them to it - and it looks, well, not to be too unkind, in fairness, it looks shit. The colours are weak, the picture looks just weird, the strapline does not seem to tie in with their video and says nothing really about the machine. If it was me, I'd be choosing First Forte's all day long.

Things are not good in the Impact camp as Paul berates his team for looking downhearted (well, wouldn't you, if after 48 hours you'd come up with this pile of fetid dingo's kidneys?) while Rachel has more or less dissociated herself from the project, and Raj? Honestly, unless he brought in sandwiches or something I don't see evidence of anything Raj did. Paul, to be fair, took complete control over the video, for better or for worse (most likely the latter), Saira and Rachel both worked, in their own very different ways, on the press ad and pitch. Raj doesn't seem to have done a thing. He might as well not be there.
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Pitch Perfect?

Time to pitch the product, which is usually where the task can be won or lost. Make your point, do a good job, represent the product well, interest the audience and you're halfway there. Lose interest, confuse them, fail to get your point across and you could be looking at a return trip to the Boardroom.

Impact: Um, "Get Your Own"?

First to go are Impact, and Rachel leads the pitch. For reasons known only to her, she decides it would be a good idea to dance to the music in the video. I mean, she's not old but she's not a teenager, and it just looks cringeworthy. The audience look really embarrassed for her, especially as she throws off her shoes (hope she washed her feet) which only adds to the cringe factor, but also contains the potential for injury, if one of them had hit someone. Neither do, but it's a totally unnecessary gesture, and you can see it in the faces of her audience, who really don't know where to look. Her childish collage is next, as she tries to "explain" how music makes different people feel. This definitely comes across as condescending and patronising: everyone knows how music - certain music - makes them feel: they don't need a bloody pastiche of images to show them.

Paul is not impressed, sitting there stony-faced while Rachel digs her team deeper and deeper in. Even the sarcastic comment received from the creative director when asked how the music makes him feel, that it feels like he's in a seventies sitcom, doesn't sound any warning bells. She actually agrees with him, as if this is a good thing. I think we can take it as read that Amstrad are trying to appeal to the younger market, and do not want their product to be associated with the 1970s, when the only way to play music was on vinyl and portable music was still over a decade away!

Mercifully, she hands over to Saira, who has to talk about their cobbled-together press ad, but they're polar opposites. If Rachel was, to use the word generously, fun, Saira is strictly business, even enunciating words with the deliberation of a school teacher, quite stern, almost aggressive in her way. Paul thinks the only good thing about the pitch is his video, but then, that's Paul, and he can't see how rubbish his effort is, no better than the tripe the girls have come up with.

First Forte: "The Jukebox is Back!"

It's a more sedate and settled pitch from the other team. No dancing, no collages, no shoes flying off feet. James explains the whole idea behind the concept, and how the video and the press ad tie in together. Right away, as the video runs, two of the execs, including the creative director, both of whom had been slumped bored in their seats, no doubt expecting another hodge-podge of poorly-executed and disconnected ideas, sit up with interest. Mister creative director laughs out loud with joy at the opening shot of the actor coming home to find his beloved jukebox (the one that was too big to go up the stairs) dumped outside his door. Despite the fact that the ad seems to have gone down well, James is moaning and does not seem happy with the pitch. Not entirely sure why.

Sir Alan then takes calls from the advertising executives, who give him their feedback on both teams. Usually, when this happens (and it does happen frequently though not always), you only see general comments, as the producers obviously don't want to give away the winner, and in any case, as he says himself, Sir Alan is the final arbiter. He will take input, comments, even advice, but in the end he will make the decision. In this case, however, we don't hear any of the conversations he has. And so, to the Boardroom.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 01:27 AM
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The Boardroom

Before he goes through their efforts, Sir Alan warns the teams that he's not interested in "all that demographic bollocks", as he so succinctly puts it. As Frasier's father says, he's an regular Joe and he likes his joe regular. He's already said a few times he hates bullshit, so these ads are going to have to stand on their own merits. Impact are first to be examined, then First Forte. Sir Alan tends not to give much away, but he certainly does not look impressed with either campaign. Interestingly, he asks Raj who he thinks won, which I think is a pretty direct way of saying there is a clear winner, that it's not close, but Raj, having done pretty much fuck-all in the task, again avoids any work and swerves the question, until pushed, and then he says he believes the other team won. "Spot on," says Sir Alan, and it's a victory for First Forte. Never really in doubt. Interestingly again, no treat this time for the winning team, or none he announced anyway. Okay there is: they're sent to a gents outfitters and boutique to be kitted out in flash gear.


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Behind the Boardroom Door

Sir Alan: "Well, it's a no-brainer really. You don't have to be an advertising executive to work that one out. My god!"

Nick: "It's that evident."

Sir Alan: "It's that clear. You know, there was no contest here. We'll just have to find out what went wrong with this lot again."

Return to the Boardroom

Rather ridiculously, Paul asks Sir Alan why he chose the other team? The look of derision he gets from the boss should tell him "You must be fucking joking, mate!" But he doesn't seem to see it, somehow adamant in his belief that his video - never mind the press ad, that was terrible, but surely his all-conquering vision with the video - should easily have won, and he doesn't understand. Sir Alan lays it on the line to him, telling him that he didn't see the product, it wasn't talked about and that he "didn't know what the bloody hell the ad was about." He tells Paul he's too close to his idea, his baby, and just can't see it: he needs to look at it with the eyes of a consumer, but again Paul looks like a goldfish that has just been asked to calculate Pi. Giving him at least some sense of relief, surely, Sir Alan admits that, bad as the video was, he hates the press ad so much more, calling it "a load of old rubbish". Which it is. A kid of nine or ten could have done so much better. It's beyond useless.

Asking who's responsible, to be fair Paul tries to take all the blame on his shoulders as PM, but Sir Alan ain't having that, and Saira has to defend her work, which she can't. She fudges the issue as to whether she left the graphic artist to get on with it - well, let's be honest: she lies through her teeth. This is exactly what she did, and now she tries to backtrack and put the best spin on it that she can, but she's dealing with an old hand and Sir Alan sees right through her posturing. He knows what happened. But she's her usual combative, aggressive self and avoids his questions until he has to almost drag them out of her. Paul obviously brings the two women back in with him. There was really no other choice he could make.

Behind the Boardroom Door II

Nick: "Paul became so engrossed in his video that he wasn't even in contact with these two at all! He was not running a team."

Sir Alan: "Getting back to the original CV, one of the claims to fame out of this three, Rachel, is that she's been in advertising, done some advertising and all that stuff. And what she was doing poncing about downstairs making storyboard presentations for the advertising agency, I just don't know."
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And then there were three...

Paul fights for his place, doing all he can to implicate the two women. To be fair, though there's blame enough to go around, there's little defence they can plead. Nobody has mentioned the spat they had, which forced each to withdraw and concentrate on a separate idea, neither of which were linked to what we will kindly and generously call the main theme, leading to so much wasted time and bad time management. Again Saira lies; when Paul says they shook hands after the altercation last week, which Sir Alan brings up, she says they never did. But it's shown in the "previously on" segment here, and they did: he shook hands with her and Rachel shook hands with Matthew I think it was. Someone else anyway. But it did happen, and now she's rewriting history to pretend it didn't happen.

Rachel then makes what could be seen as a fatal error by volunteering the information about the row she and Saira had, which up to then it seems Sir Alan did not know about, as it took place when neither of them were being observed. I'm not sure what she hoped to achieve, but it looks to me like she just opened herself, and perhaps Saira too, up to further criticism, and accusations of both being unable to put aside differences and work together, another thing Sir Alan hates. As both women dig themselves further in, Paul wisely sits silent, happy to let them put themselves, literally, in the firing line. He offers no comment, as if to say, nothing to do with me. Sir Alan isn't going to let him off the hook that easy though, and asks why he wasn't checking in on his sub-team, as Miriam had been on hers. Both the women, unsurprisingly, hit back when Sir Alan asks if Paul was a good team leader, and receiving a negative answer from both, asks who should be fired, and both choose Paul. Now the spotlight is back on him; can he dance away from the machine-gun one more time, or is his metaphorical blood going to be on the Boardroom carpet?

Rather surprisingly, given his arrogance, Paul agrees that he was not a good PM, surely a very very risky admission when you're in the last three? He also point-blank refuses to choose someone to be fired, leaving it up to Sir Alan. As I said before, this can often be seen by the boss as insubordination, even defiance, and can lead him to decide that anyone who is either that arrogant or can't make a simple decision when asked needs to leave the process. But he's lucky this time: Sir Alan's barely restrained fury at Rachel claiming she has advertising expertise and then producing something a third grade school kid would laugh at ends up with her being the one that's fired. Saira for some reason breaks down in tears as they walk out of the Boardroom. She'd want to toughen up: it only gets more brutal from here on in.

QUOTES

Paul (about Matthew): "He should have gone on day one. Or never have showed up, really."

Sir Alan: "It will be interesting to see whether these two teams go down some sort of arty-farty style, cos if they do they will get a kick in the arse from me, that's for sure!"

Saira: "I think most people talk a lot, but most people talk bollocks. At least I talk sense."
(That, my dear, is very much a matter of opinion!)

Ad girl: "Do you not want to check with the rest of the team first?"
Saira: "Ah, I haven't got time. The rest of the team aren't here."
(Yeah, Saira, that's what fucking mobile phones are for!)

Paul: "Saira is difficult to manage definitely (where have we heard that before? - TH) I actually said to her a couple of days ago that I didn't think she was a team player - she's a person who wants to do her own thing, and to shine herself and to point the finger of blame elsewhere, but not to take any sort of flak herself."
(Jesus Christ! Do these people even hear themselves? Sound like anyone you know, Paul?)

Ad exec: "There's an old cliche in the advertising world - if you throw three balls at someone they're likely to drop them all. If you throw one they might catch it. I think  you've thrown too many balls."

Sir Alan: "I've written books on advertising. Cheque books."

Sir Alan: "You should have stuck to that guy like shit to a blanket."

Paul: "I'm a Roman Catholic, and as God is my witness, I shook her hand."
Sir Alan: "Well I'm Jewish and I couldn't care less!"


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Thoughts in the cab

Rachel: "Fundamentally, Paul's lack of management did cause a tremendous problem. My feeling is that I haven't been fired for my performance on this task, but because Sir Alan likes Paul's pugnaciousness, and he likes Saira's pugnaciousness. Perhaps I just didn't stand up for myself loudly enough."

There's an element of truth to this, but the real reason she was fired wasn't because Sir Alan gave both the others a second chance over her; he saw something in the two of them that he did not see in Rachel. She produced a pile of shit and that's why she was fired.

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You're fired!
Name: Rachel Groves
Age: ?
Occupation: Charity fundraiser

While Saira is notoriously hard to work with, I think it was a mistake for Rachel to have gone and done her own thing. Not only was that own thing sneered at by Sir Alan, but had she remained with Saira she would surely have been with her when they were with the "Mac man", as they all referred to the graphic artist at the advertising agency (presumably he was using a Mac computer, not being chased around by four sprites - oh no, that's Pacman innit?) and one of them would have stayed with him to ensure they got the design they wanted. Assuming they had a clue what they wanted in the first place. At any rate, two strong female personalities often spark off against each other, and this is what happened, leaving both first fighting each other in the Boardroom and then in desperation bonding as sisters (too late) to gang up on Paul. Her decision to do the stupid dance probably sealed the fate of the pitch before it had even begun, though to be fair, nothing about that campaign was going to impress.

After being fired, Rachel continued in the charity world, becoming head of fundraising for the Citizens Advice Bureau, and also turned her hand to novel writing.

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First Forte: Probably the second best team leader so far, Miriam knew exactly what she wanted to do, had her vision, listened to her team members. She delegated but did not desert, keeping in contact with the sub-team at all times, and she had no conflict within her team. The unwieldy jukebox aside, they had no real problems and they came up with a clever strapline from the off. Even though James for some reason disagreed with the pitch and how it had gone, he did not make his feelings known publicly and supported the team. They all worked together on the same cohesive idea, and that's why they won. Also, that the other team was shit.

PM Rating: :5stars:

Impact: In direct contrast to First Forte, Impact had no idea what they were doing. Paul, as PM, did his own thing, listened to nobody and then left his sub-team to their own devices, blaming them for not checking in with him, when that's his responsibility as PM. To his credit, he admitted he was not a good PM, perhaps the only candidate who will ever do so, as it's tantamount to presenting your belly to Sir Alan and handing him the sword, but it seemed to work for him. Nevertheless, he allowed friction and bad blood to poison his team, but seemed unaware of, or uncaring about it, as long as he got his precious video done. He was unable to see how poor that video was, defended it to the death, but was quite willing to throw his sub-team under the wheels of the approaching bus with the advert for "You're Fired!" plastered on it. A very poor PM indeed.

PM rating: :1stars: (It would have been 0.5 but I'm giving him credit for the admission)

May the best team win?

Definitely. As described above, First Forte had their game plan in place from the off. There were a few setbacks but they tackled them professionally and turned disadvantage into advantage. Their entire task, from brainstorming to creation to pitch, was streets ahead of Impact's. Even Sir Alan said it wasn't close, a no-brainer. And so it was.

The front runners

Miriam, through her management style has shown herself to be a cut above the rest, so right now we have her and Tim, James and possibly, if she can get her shit together, Saira. Paul can't last much longer; after my praising him last task he nosedived this week and was lucky not to be shown the door.


The one that got away

Have to go for Raj here. What the hell did he do? I think he sat with Paul while he Spielberged his way through the video, but I don't remember him even talking. Had Paul decided to bring him into the Boardroom I think he would have been hard-pressed to defend his participation in the task, and might very well have been heading home. A lucky man.[/i][/i]
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 01:31 AM
Candidates' Progress

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In addition, here are some pie charts showing who did the most actual work in the task:

First Forte
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Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 02:05 AM
Season one, episode seven:
"Apprentice Celebrities"

A man like Sir Alan did not get where he is today, to quote CJ from The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin, by not recognising where there's conflict, and as Saira declares her reluctance to work with Paul again to the others, she gets her wish as, the next morning, Sir Alan splits the teams, basing them around Paul and Saira, each told to choose a member for their team. Saira chooses James, Raj, and Sebastian, while Paul then chooses Tim, Miriam and Ben. Speaking of Ben, he's left in no doubt by Sir Alan that it might be a good idea if he stepped up as Project Manager, and so of course he does. The task is to blag items from celebrities to be auctioned off at a charity gala to help reopen the Hackney Empire cinema, in the area where Sir Alan grew up. He'll be leaving it to them as to how they do that, but he has arranged the audiences for them.

The Task:
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PM (Saria's Team): Ben
PM (Paul's Team): James

At this point, I'm not entirely sure if the team names remain, or if we just refer to them as Paul's team and Saira's team, but until I get further guidance that's what I'll call them. Sir Alan has set up a total of 10 celebrities to be approached, and the teams begin working out their strategies. First each team has to choose 5 out of the ten celebrities to target, and showing how old this is, the list would appear more one of washed-up has-beens than A-listers, but time makes fools of us all, even the famous. So, Saira's team choose Michael Winner, Dermot Gavin, two of the female cast of the musical show Chicago, Ian Wright and Anthony Morell-Thompson, while Paul's team go for Mel Smith, Eamonn Holmes, Paul McKenna, Richard Burkett and Mo Mowlam. If you don't know who these people are, don't worry: it's not that important, but as they see each one I'll give you a quick bio.

The first celeb approached by Paul's team is film director Michael Winner, and he proves a tough proposition, making the very valid point that there are far more worthy causes he can contribute to, such as world famine, hospitals and so on: why would he want to help some poxy theatre? Given that he's a director, you might think he'd be a bit more well disposed towards preserving one of the area's theatres, but he seems almost insulted that he should be asked to support, as he sees it, such a trivial cause. I suspect it's possible Sir Alan has asked the celebrities not to go down easy, to make it hard for the teams, make them work for their patronage, as it were. Of course, Winner could just be an annoying prick. Actually stepping out from the shadows for once (what does he do there, we wonder?) Raj, who sees him as a personal hero, we're told, leads the negotiations with hypnotist Paul McKenna. It's a bad idea: they do say never meet your heroes, and Raj is like a blushing schoolboy meeting Springsteen or something: he just can't get the words out, and is so awkward it's almost, though not quite, as painful as watching Rachel dance last week.

In the end, James decides he's losing the plot and jumps in, taking over the negotiation - or, I should say really, starting it, as Raj has, true to form, been useless in even getting a dialogue going. James however is successful in securing a personal hypnosis session from McKenna, while Miriam wins over (!) Winner, who agrees to put up a meal for four in the most exclusive restaurant in London. If he's available, he says, he will actually pour the wine. Saira is her usual pushy self and almost alienates McKenna by asking for a signed copy of his book as well. This seems to the hypnotist to be demanding too much, and also I imagine makes him wonder why they don't value the session he's offering as being enough on its own? Seems Saira is trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory here! Ben rather overestimates the net worth of the two actresses, suggesting that they offer an all-expenses-paid trip to Chicago - the city, not the musical! - which gets very short shrift indeed. Research, my son! Do your fucking research. Not every actor or actress is a fucking millionaire!

I would have suspicions about Sebastian's contention that he is a big fan of Mel Smyth's work: he doesn't mention Alas Smith and Jones, his partner, or Not the Nine O'Clock News, so really, anyone can say "I'm a fan of your work". It's just lucky Mel didn't ask him what his favourite sketch was? I mean, anyone who knows him would say something like "Gerald the gorilla" or "the conversations you do with Griff head to head", something like that, something to show that they're not just bullshitting them. Anyway, he too is floundering and Saira jumps in with both feet to take over from him, but at least she gets a negotiation going. Back on Paul's team, Ben has to pare back his lavish expectations and settle for VIP tickets for 50 people to the show; one of the actresses is scowling all the time, no doubt correctly seeing him as a flash wide boy who wouldn't ordinarily be seen dead at their show. Not a lot of love lost there.

Strangely enough, when Paul's team go to see Diarmuid Gavin, given that he is a celebrity gardener (apparently), nobody even thinks of asking him to pony up a garden makeover; they're talking about his jacket, his motorbike. Surely the true value of a celebrity (if they have one) is in what they do? You wouldn't, for instance, ask Lady Gaga to fly you in a helicopter, or suggest that Frank Bruno would cook you dinner? A gardener should be offering something to do with a garden, ne c'est pas? But they don't seem to see that. When they do ask him about the bike, he says he has never ridden it, but intends to one day, and besides, it's a very high-performance vehicle and he would not be able to forgive himself if anyone who got it in a charity auction got injured riding it. So that's out.  Eventually Paul's team do the more logical and surely most obvious thing, and ask Diarmuid to participate in a sort of advice call for gardens and home design, which he agrees to put up as his auction piece. The team play a somewhat dangerous game, pushing him until he agres to throw in the motorbike too.

Eamonn Holmes, presenter of breakfast television show  GMTV turns on the full Irish charm on Saira, but she's not having any of it. He is not making it easy for Saira's team, shooting down all their suggestions and offering none of his own. Fat Irish twat. Sorry. He eventually offers a tour of the studio and a VIP breakfast, though he makes it clear it won't be anything luxurious, as he has to pay for it. Shades of Father Ted in the "Lovely Girls Competition" - "And you pay (to the winner) - I don't pay. You're paying."  I think I was unfair to Holmes earlier, and I wish now to amend my previous description of him. Calling him a fat Irish twat was neither fair nor completely accurate. He's a fat, tight Irish twat. Ian Wright, on the other hand, when Saira's team visit him, worries that his ego might be deflated if he offered something and it didn't fetch the price he expected. Again Ben is pushy, and when he suggests Wright could give them his England 98 golf bag, the soccer international is aghast. Tim then puts his foot in it further by letting Wright (who is his idol, so are we back to a performance worthy of Raj again?) that they are not actually involved in the charity but are doing this on behalf of The Apprentice. That does not go down well with the football star.

It's up to Miriam to rescue the situation, which she does by discounting everything the other two have said (Paul hasn't uttered a word) and making a passionate plea on behalf of "the children", which finally strikes a chord with Wright and he agrees to donate his golf bag, while not missing the chance to let Tim and Ben know that he is not impressed, that they started the pitch on the wrong foot and, to use a term from his own arena, scored an own goal, Miriam only rescuing the result with a last-minute penalty.

To her immense credit, and showing how strong a team player she is, Miriam does not berate Tim over his error; when his confidence has, probably for the first time ever, taken a knock, as he says himself, she embraces him and tells him he did well, that all she did was complete the sale, as it were. Can you imagine Saira in that position? They'd be coming to blows! But Miriam knows that what is needed now is reassurance, not recrimination. It's not as if they failed: they got the item, even if it was hard-won, and in the end that's all that matters. Whether, of course, should they lose, she will bring this up in the Boardroom remains to be seen, but for now she's supportive and engaging, and assures Tim no harm has been done.

The auction takes place, and each team's items seem to sell very well, but who has sold the most and made the most money for the charity? That will have to wait until they all meet up again the next morning in the Boardroom. Oh. No they won't. For some reason Sir Alan meets them backstage and tells them who won. That's unusual. At any rate, it's Paul's team (I think he still called them First Forte, but we'll find out soon enough) who win, and Saira's team are the ones to, presumably, return to the Boardroom alone tomorrow. Paul is not exactly magnanimous in victory, only short of burning Saira in effigy, delighted to have beaten his nemesis.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 02:22 AM
So this time this will serve as "Return to the Boardroom", and then we'll move directly onto the three who are brought back in. Confusing, isn't it?
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The Boardroom

Saira's team are then the only ones to come into the Boardroom, to discuss their loss and why it occurred. Sir Alan maintains they didn't push hard enough for better gear. That is a hard one to gauge: the other team almost scuppered themselves twice, skating close to insulting their celebrity, and while Geldof may feel comfortable growing "Just give us your fucking money", not everyone can do that. The celebrities could very easily have said "That's it, fuck off" and they would have got nothing. So I'm not so sure pushing for more would have been the greatest strategy, especially as they already tried this with Paul McKenna and - while they got what they wanted in the end - it seemed to really annoy him. In the same way, Paul's team had to pull their horns in when Ian Wright got pissed off with them, and without Miriam's intervention they might indeed have left without anything. So it's a fine line you tread when you ask for charity donations, and I think it is perhaps a little unfair of Sir Alan to say they weren't pushy enough. There's being determined and dogged, and there's being rude.

Raj gets interrogated and I must say, does the most talking that he has so far, although most of it is just flim-flam, avoiding the responsibility but also taking the blame for some of it. Hard to figure the guy; it's almost like he has no personality of his own. James is right though; despite Sir Alan saying you should have pushed more with Eamonn Holmes, that fucker was not giving anything away that didn't suit him. He was, as they say in the business, a right prick. James chooses Sebastian and Raj to remain with him in the Boardroom to face further questions.
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Behind the Boardroom Door

Margaret*: "They wouldn't have got a bike from Diarmuid Gavin."

Sir Alan: "No?"

Margaret: "The way they went into the other things, they would not have got that bike."

Nick: "And I think that's the point. Apart from Saira, the rest were all pussyfooting around. What has Raj ever shown you?"

Sir Alan: "Well, what has Sebastian ever shown me?"

Nick: "He's articulate, I guess. I find Raj completely inarticulate."

Margaret: "But I think Raj has more common sense than Sebastian."

Sir Alan: "Think so?"

Margaret: "He's knocked around a bit more." **

* This is the first time Margaret has spoken after the candidates have left to be whittled down

** This is the longest "Behind the Boardroom Door" conversation so far. You can see how unsure Sir Alan is about how he should proceed, and how much he values and relies on the advice of both Margaret and Nick.

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And then there were three...

As he will often do when he hasn't made up his mind, Sir Alan asks each candidate why they should remain in the process. Sebastian's habit of being quiet and staying on the sidelines does not go down well, Raj is asked why he is sitting there instead of Saira (and basically puts it down to her big mouth, which is interesting, as his inarticulateness has been remarked upon already) and does seem to get flustered as he tries to save himself. James is as usual a picture of calm and serenity; he may go today, he knows that, but he thinks his team did a good enough job, and as PM he may have to shoulder the fact that they didn't win, but he's going to be reserved and gentlemanly about it. It's his first time in the Boardroom as a loser, his second as PM, and he probably thinks he should deserve another chance. It's unlikely he's going to turn on anyone; just not in his nature to get down and dirty in the trenches. James is the type who, to quote Rimmer from Red Dwarf when he speaks about generals, is up there in the lovely white tents directing the battle and sipping Sancerre.

In fairness, it could have been either of the other two, but Sir Alan plumps for Sebastian, claiming he has not seen enough from him, that he's too quiet and not the sort of person he believes would fit in to his organisation. Not, as he says, an action man. He fires him, but also puts Raj on notice, saying there will be no more warnings, which I assume means Raj is going to expect to lead the next task. If he doesn't, if he doesn't step up and take the opportunity to show Sir Alan what he can do - even if he fails - then he's a very stupid man, and whatever else he may be, he doesn't look stupid, and he didn't secure his candidacy here by being less than intelligent. He should be clearly able to read the weather, know there's a storm heading his way, and take the only course he can to try to avoid it. I really hope the next task is selling boats, because then all that pretentious waffle will seem like a really prescient statement, instead of the random nautical metaphor bollocks it is!

After the firing

Sir Alan: "At the end of the day, we're looking for someone who's going to come and work for me in my organisation, and therefore they've got to have a sort of Sugar culture (!) - smoothly, smoothly, nicey, nicey - that's all right, but there's got to be a killer instinct somewhere, you know? And I don't think he's demonstrated that here."

QUOTES

Saira: "I think our approach was to treat each celebrity with respect."
(Yeah, I'm sure Paul McKenna felt you respected him, when you intimated the session he was offering was not enough on its own, and could he not chuck in a signed copy of his book too, to make it worth your while!)

Ben: "Really what we'd like to do is keep it open-ended, a weekend to Chicago. Flying them out."
Actress (laughing): "Can I go with them? I certainly can't afford to fly someone to Chicago!"

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Thoughts in the cab

Sebastian: "I am a bit shocked, because I wasn't expecting to go quite now. I had proved myself on many of the other tasks. I think in my view Raj is a great great individual, very personable, very friendly, great sense of humour but I think in that boardroom, I think it should have been him to go, purely because on all the tasks that have taken place so far I think he's the one individual in the household that hasn't shone on any of them."

A fair assessment of Raj, who surely can't have long left to go: I can't pin down one single thing, never mind one task, where he made the slightest contribution, and this week he totally fluffed his chance to impress when he tried to schmooze Paul McKenna. As for Sebastian, pretty much the same for him, though wasn't he PM once? Let me check back: yeah he led the art one. And he won, but not due to his brilliance, in fact I don't think he did much in that task. And his attempt to talk to Mel Smyth on this task was as ill-advised and ineffective as Raj's. Plus he forgot the name of the damned theatre! I don't call that proving yourself on tasks!

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You're fired!
Name: Sebastian Schrimpff
Age: 33
Occupation: Financial Analyst

Seems Sebastian was as boring as his job title. Seriously, is there any little boy or girl who dreams of growing up to be a financial fucking analyst? He was very much the "grey man" of the competition; I can't point to a single thing he will be remembered for. He cracked no jokes, closed no deals, led the team but they won in spite of him, didn't seem to have made any friendships or alliances. That doesn't mean he wasn't a nice guy; he seemed to be. But The Apprentice demands you be more than a nice guy or girl: you have to stand out, and for me, Seb did not. What did he do after he was fired? Well, with a name like that he's going to be easy to Google, unless there are a whole lot of aliens out there. Honestly, doesn't his name sound like he was trying to tell someone what it was and then someone else put their hand over his mouth to silence him? Okay, enough mirth at his expense: let's see if we can find out anything about his career after the show.

Hmm. Seems that surname is Colombian, as it says he returned there to his family, and now runs a successful investments company. Fair enough.

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Paul's team: Ben led the team but most of his decisions looked to me to be more a case of bad ones; pushing too hard (although Sir Alan did later confirm this was what he wanted) and coming close to insulting and incurring the wrath of Ian Wright. I don't know; his team won, but did it win thanks to anything he did, any great strategy other than "push push and push some more"? I'd have to say he was a fairly unremarkable PM. Not terrible but certainly not great. A real mid-range guy.

PM Rating: :3stars:

Saira's team: James was kind of the same. I think in almost contrast to Ben, his gentlemanly, polite nature forbade him from pushing people too much, though when he could see Raj was getting nowhere with McKenna he did jump in and saved the pitch, as it were. Again, I'd have to say he was okay, but nothing special. They didn't lose because of him, but at the same time, had they won, I don't think he could really have claimed much credit.

PM rating: :3stars:

May the best team win? Once again, hard to say. Although they were praised for getting their high-ticket item, the motorcycle, from what I saw Diarmuid Gavin had refused, then surprised them at the end by agreeing. Now, maybe you could say that was because he was charmed by them, or maybe it was that he just wanted to get rid of them and was being worn down by them. So did the bike come to them through their efforts, or his own generosity? Given that it was the deciding factor and won them the task, I suppose you have to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I could have seen either team winning really. Or losing. So I don't actually think there was much between them in terms of performance and winning the task.

However, when we look at how Paul's team supported each other - as detailed above, Miriam's consoling of Tim - as opposed to Saira's usual snappy attitude and aggressive approach, yeah, perhaps Paul's were the better team overall.

The front runners

Still Tim, Miriam, Saira and maybe James, even though his team lost this week.

Oops!

Sebastian forgetting the name of the damned theatre when he starts trying to interest celebrities is not a good start. I mean, how can you forget two fucking words? The Hackney what? Cab, is it? Kingdom? Realm? Something like that anyway: some rundown fleapit that Sugar has a surprisingly sentimental connection to. So, do you want to support it, or what? Hello? Hello?

Tim uncharacteristically makes a serious error when he reveals to Ian Wright that the charity they're collecting for, the Hackney Empire, doesn't really mean anything to them: it's just one of the tasks Sir Alan has set for them. An inauthentic and insincere plea then for his help falls on deaf ears.

Quite funny when, as Miriam is hugging Tim, Paul comes out of the car saying "Nobody hugs me!" And spreads his arms wide ... and is completely ignored, has to go sit back down in the car. Reminds me of Homer: "You never thanked me," and Marge saying "You didn't do anything!" Whereupon Homer sulks "I like being thanked."

The one that got away

Would have to be Raj again, and I'm pretty sure he knows it. Hell, everyone knows it. Unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat next week, that taxi has his name on it!
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 08:47 PM
Season one, episode eight:
"Food Fight"


For the first time in the series the candidates are operating outside the city, though Sir Alan throws them off-guard by bringing them to the Amstrad computer assembly plant, and waffling on about computer components, so that they must surely think they're going to be asked to build a new computer or something. Imagine their surprise when he tells them they'll be making food products, sourcing it from local farmers and selling it at farmers' markets! Bet they weren't expecting that! I certainly wasn't. Well actually I was, as the impact was taken out of the revelation by Voiceover Guy, who told us all this in advance. Seems to me it would have been better to have kept schtumm and let us, too, be surprised. But anyway, on we go. It appears the teams are still called what they were, whether they changed or not last week I'm not sure, but they weren't mentioned. Now they are, so we're back with them. Or they never went away. Whatever.

The Task:
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Impact PM: Ben
First Forte PM: Raj

Ben is, rather oddly, chosen, or put forward anyway by Paul, who believes he did such a great job last week that he should be taking the reins this week too. Is this a tactical manoeuvre by the landlord? Is he hoping Ben will fall flat on his face, and be told by Sir Alan that he should not have been greedy, should have let someone else have a go? What expertise has this headhunter in the world of agriculture? For that matter, what experience have any of them got in farming and growing veg? Suppose he's as good as anyone. Unsurprisingly, Raj has taken to heart what the boss said in the Boardroom last week, and has stepped forward to lead First Forte. It's surely not significant or important, but I like to point these things out: this is the first time we've had the PM on both teams having three letters in their name. All right, I'll get on with it if that's what you want.

To probably nobody's surprise, Raj is already PM in name only, as Saira aggressively pushes her idea for chutney, virtually daring anyone to fight her on it. Impact go for making soup, and both teams are sent to Berkshire, which will be the backdrop for the longest task they have yet undertaken - three days in all. James for some reason tries to communicate with the local donkeys (seriously) while Raj wonders what the hell he has signed up for? He took on the post of PM (he had to) before knowing what the task was, and now he's no way sure that he's up to the job. Doesn't really matter, as everyone else on his team seems to be ignoring him anyway and doing what they want without asking or involving him. Saira's championing of chutney is in the bin, as the cook tells them it can't be eaten until three months after being made, so that's out. She suggests jam and jelly. They decide to engage her services, as none of them could boil an egg, never mind make a jam. Impact manage to get some pretty decent discounts on their veg, for, well, no reason really: the guy just offers.

James is essentially project managing the task, while Saira just browbeats Raj and orders him around. "I just want some fucking respect," he says. Well, you won't get it by letting people tell you what to do and push you around, son. You also won't get it by not listening to your team members when they point out that you are spending too much money and are unlikely to make any profit, one of the cardinal sins in the doctrine of Alan Sugar! Why is Saira asking if they can still make chutney? Suppose they can sell it but are you going to buy something that you can't even open for three months? Seems unlikely to me. James meanwhile has a close shave with a monster snail and some nettles. Ah, the glamorous life of an Apprentice candidate! Now that they've realised how much they're spending, First Forte intend to try to get their cooks to work for free. How that's going to pan out, only the gods of finance know, but I know what I'd be saying if someone engaged me for a job, a fee was agreed and then they asked me to do it for nothing. You wouldn't see me for dust.

Um, considering Raj's people are picking elderberries by the side of the road for their jam, I assume they know what's poisonous and what's not, and can distinguish elderberries from, oh I don't know, say, the black poison certain-deathberries? Like, do they know anything about wild fruits? I certainly wouldn't be able to tell one berry from another. They manage to get the cook to work for free, ostensibly in return for promoting her kitchen, in reality she probably agrees because that means at least she's on TV. Possible also that the producers said "Look, love, they're idiots, but they're poor idiots, so the deal is: do it for nothing or we'll find someone else." Maybe. Raj seems to have checked out; he says as much to the camera, and looks to be resigned to going home.

The next day both teams are off to the farmers' market to sell their produce, but both arrive late, which is not a great start and puts them on the back foot. At least everything seems to be selling. Until a spider is discovered in Saira's jelly! Don't shout, or everyone will want one! Yeah, doesn't quite work with these people. Or anyone. To be fair to her, Saira is a sales whirlwind, even targeting the other stall holders, who seem helpless before her assault, and buy the stuff, possibly just to get rid of her. But apart from that, and Ben's scowling face putting customers off, it goes quite well, at least for First Forte, who sell out, while Impact are left chucking their venison soup (what?) into a bin, where it looks like it belongs.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 29, 2025, 09:07 PM
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The Boardroom

Back in good old London, it's time to get down to brass tacks and see who has won the task. Surprisingly, when asked, both Saira and James say Raj was a good team leader, which he certainly was not. Nevertheless, it's them that win the task, almost tripling what the other team made. Pretty short Boardroom, all things considered, not really much to report, other than that the winning team get to fly to Monaco to stay over. Hey, it beats learning to ice skate or helicopter trips over London, doesn't it?

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Behind the Boardroom Door

Margaret: "Well I think Miriam has to take some responsibility for that as well because she must have known that she couldn't spend £650."

Nick: "It's the Project Manager's role to keep the bloody thing under control, and he didn't."

Margaret: "What about Paul though?"

Sir Alan: "He's very fiery. Some people might say that's a good thing, but you can't have a loose cannon like that running around too much. I don't know whether he's ever going to learn to control that temper."

Return to the Boardroom

Sir Alan tells the losing team that they made a product which was too elaborate and cost too much to make, versus how much they were able to sell it for. He says the others kept it simple, which is why they won. It must also be mentioned though (he doesn't say it, not yet anyway) that First Forte had originally costs of £50 an hour for their cook, which would have completely wiped out their profit and given Impact the lead, but they managed to scrub that entirely. So I guess both blame and credit to Saira, first for booking her and then for realising she cost too much and managing to get her to work for free, and so saving the task for her team. Paul twists and turns, again avoiding questions, but trying to defend himself when Ben says he didn't see enough from him, and it's him and Miram he brings back.
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And then there were three...

Sir Alan again uses the tactic of asking each of them why he shouldn't fire them. Paul seems almost insulted by the inference, saying he did all he could and that basically it's not his fault the team lost. He and Ben clash, probably aware that it's one of them going. Miriam throws Paul under the bus, and Paul hits back at her, with his usual dismissive and rude attitude towards women. He actually gets very animated (again) and Sir Alan's fear, voiced just before he called them back in, that the man will never learn to control his temper, seems to be well-founded. Even in the Boardroom, even in front of the boss, Paul does not know when to shut up and take what's coming to him. Some might call that brave, others arrogant, still others might consider it suicidal.

His refusal to say who should be fired looks to be about to hang him, as Sir Alan asks both Miriam and Ben who should be fired, and they both say it should be him. Yet again though he gets a pass, as Sir Alan fires Ben, who looks like one of those criminals in the dock who "Show no emotion when the sentence is passed": it's almost as if he's daydreaming and is mentally somewhere else. I wonder if, this being the first season, the producers had no idea how fired candidates should react, and so they just sort of sat there and stared till dismissed? In later seasons they will always thank Sir Alan and his aides, and sometimes wish the other candidates good luck, and he (Sir Alan), if he has been sufficiently impressed with them, may tell them to keep in touch. More human, and none of that happens here. It's almost like, press any key to delete this candidate. Or, to use a phrase from Star Trek: The Next Generation when they're on the holodeck, "Computer, freeze program!"

After the firing

Sir Alan: "He looks the part. He looks the part. Looks the part, talks the part, and I'm thinking all along, come on man, show me something! And he hasn't shown me anything really. That's it. That's it; he had to go in the end."

QUOTES

Saira: "Now, none of us has any clue really on chutney. I've eaten it, I really like it."
Nancy the cook: "Well, when you've made it, most of them have to wait three months before you can eat it."
Saira: "We do realise that. We do realise that."
(Saying it twice doesn't make it true, Saira. You did NOT realise that, or you wouldn't have suggested it. Neck like the proverbial jockey's bollocks, she has!)

James: "Saira is being overbearing as usual and talking everyone down, really, and Raj isn't leading."
(You say that as if you're surprised, James!)

Raj: "I think Saira's performed quite well, in terms of what she's negotiated. But the problem with her is she's a bit of a disruptive force. (That's like saying Hurricane Katrina was a bit windy! - TH) If you look at what she says, 95 percent of it will have been something that was raised earlier, and was not her idea, but then it comes across as her idea, so I think she's playing a bit of a cute game. But you know what? I can't be bothered with it; at the end of the day, we're here to do a task. : if the judges or whatever can't see that, then let them hire her."
(Very telling: a man who has already shrugged and said fuck it I don't care, I'm not going to win. He also has a somewhat skewed idea of the makeup of the show. Judges? There aren't any judges! This isn't X Factor! There's only one man who makes the final decision.)

Saira: "I've really pulled my weight on this. I've negotiated, I've really been hands-on, I've also been making quite a few decisions on behalf of Raj, and directing him."

(And what about the other member of your team, Saira? What about James?)
Saira: "I've been a bit stressed; I've raised my voice, I've given my opinions straight. I don't think they like that all the time. I know James doesn't, but I do feel, and I will say this, I just feel sometimes he's a dithering old fool."

Sir Alan: "It's all very well ranting about team, team, team: I'm not going to employ a bloody team. I'm going to employ a person. This is not the bloody Waltons here!"


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Thoughts in the cab

Ben: "It's almost as if, by nominating me to start with, Paul had a strategy  to get rid of me, and if that was the case, then he's done well. The only point that they picked up on was that I hadn't managed the budget as well as I should have done. In my line of business, the margins are so high that I don't need to concentrate too much on budgets. I don't like retail and I don't like pumpkin soup."

Always good to see a candidate with a sense of humour. Go on, Ben: hunt them heads!
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You're fired!
Name: Ben Leary
Age: 33
Occupation: Headhunter

Another of what I like to term "the grey men", Ben will be remembered for absolutely nothing. Well, maybe for being a sour-faced bastard, a point brought up to him by the manager of the farmers' market, sort of echoing the mantra of the manager of Harrods - smile, smile, smile. He didn't. He had very little to say for himself; in fact, overall the first batch of candidates were pretty boring. It got better. I suppose as a show they were just finding their feet, and trying to strike a balance between serious business show and entertainment. Remember, every one of these people could have been, and hoped to be, working for Sir Alan Sugar at the end, so they wouldn't be too anxious to cause him too many problems or speak out of turn. In true boring fashion, all I can find out about Ben is that he returned to his headhunting business. Hope he found some.

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First Forte: As expected, you'd have to say the team succeeded without Raj. He didn't take control, he didn't delegate really and the task just more or less went on around him, as if he was only peripherally involved, if at all. He had already shown us that he had lost interest, but winning the task means he has to stick it out for another week. Maybe a trip to Monaco will have recharged his batteries, but I don't think there was much of a charge left in them anyway. He's running on empty now, and had First Forte lost, there's no question but that he would have been fired.

PM Rating: :0.5stars:

Impact: Ben was another terrible leader. Odd to say that he ends up getting the same rating as the PM on the team that won, but while First Forte won in spite of Raj, and you couldn't really say Impact lost because of Ben, he was another who really wasn't taking the reins, would have let the budget spiral out of control, had he had one, or understood what it is, and generally left his people to get on with it. In fairness, he didn't really blame anyone, though he did try to throw Paul under the wheels. Indiana Jones-like though, the landlord from Hell grabbed on to the chassis, worked his way along the bus, and sprang out at a very surprised Ben, making sure the PM was the one who went under, though really more with a bored shrug than a scream, very Raj-like.

PM rating: :0.5stars:

May the best team win?

Guess so. Much as I hate her, Saira had a very firm grip on the numbers, and it was, as I mention above, only due to her timely realisation (with James, who I think thought of it first) that they couldn't pay the cook, and her creative solution, that they didn't lose the task. But they kept it simple, cheap and cheerful, and that won the day, whereas Impact went for a more high-end, luxury product in which very few people were interested, and those who were, paid much less for it than they should have.

Oops!

I suppose you have to hand it to Saira. Having pushed for chutney, when she's told by the professional cook that chutney can't be eaten until at least three months after being made, she just goes on, asking what else they can make, without missing a beat. She doesn't even look surprised, disappointed, annoyed, anything, as if she actually knew this. Which of course I assume she did not, as otherwise why push for it? But she covers it well. It is a monumental slip-up though: did they not check before leaving London?

The one that got away

Paul was very lucky to escape. You simply can't be that stubborn in the Boardroom: when Sir Alan asks, you answer, you don't evade. He's also very arrogant and blunt in front of the boss, and that is invariably going to get him into trouble. There are only so many places you can hide, and the Boardroom only has one exit. Well, one for candidates anyway.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 31, 2025, 01:50 AM
Season one, episode nine:
"Team News"


Always anxious to wrongfoot the candidates and keep them guessing, Sir Alan tells his secretary not to reveal where they're going when the cars arrive, just that it's North London. Hope the drivers know, or this episode could feature a lot of aimless driving around! No, of course they do, that would be stupid. But with no clue as to where they're bound, the remaining candidates can't indulge in their usual guesswork as to what the task may be. They end up at White Hart Lane, as Tottenham Hotspur's ground used to be called, where Sir Alan tells them that they will be selling subscriptions to a new text messaging app targeting the Spurs fans.
The Task:
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Impact PM: Paul
First Forte PM: Saira

It's interesting to me that Paul takes the job of Project Manager for Impact. When they went to meet Ian Wright a few weeks ago, he said he didn't know who he was, and yet in the car he made a joke about Tottenham, so what's his deal? I assumed he was a wide boy who knew nothing about football, but that appears not to be the case. As for First Forte, Saira would not seem to be the ideal PM for this task, but then, she's pushy and mouthy, so maybe that's what Spurs fans need, to be driven, browbeaten, almost threatened if they don't sign up. We'll see. The teams have until matchday (presumably Saturday) to sign up as many fans as they can to the service, which will send news, scores and so forth regarding Tottenham Hotspur to their phones. How they do that, is I guess up to the teams. Paul's idea - he is very enthusiastic, have to give him that - is to bombard the stadium with their messaging: hoardings, Jumbotron, any spare inch of space they can commandeer to catch the attention of the fans. Mind you, they're going to have to clear that with the club first, surely? And what do the other advertisers who have bought space on the hoardings think?

To nobody's surprise, Saira is already running a one-man team, making suggestions into orders and listening to nobody. I don't wish to be sexist, but unless she's a footy fan, should she not at least be talking to the guys to get an idea of what football fans like, how she should talk to them, what will work and what won't? Paul is like a kid in a candy store, quite animated, going on and on with increasingly mad ideas that would never fly - have the number painted on the pitch by the groundsman, have the number stitched onto the team shirts, have someone parachute into the stadium - I mean, come on! This isn't LA, Paul! It's London. Those sort of over-the-top publicity stunts won't wash in English Premier League football! The FA would have a coronary! You definitely get the clear impression Paul knows very little about football, and I think Tim would have been a far better PM. Sure, he hates Spurs, but then, don't they all have to make sacrifices if they want to win the task? He's far more in tune with how English football works, whereas Paul seems to think he's at the Superbowl.

Saira, meanwhile, finally meets her match as she realises there's a real world out there where people actually don't give a fuck whether she makes it to the final or not. After all but threatening Matt, the Spurs rep that she'll report him to Sir Alan for not letting her do the crazy things she wants to do with their pitch, he slaps her down and tells her she's rude and aggressive, and she'll be lucky to get any help from him at all. He gives her a lesson in cold, hard, reality, that one of the principle lessons in business is that you treat your clients, and all people you deal with, with respect. There is no room for bullying in negotiation; it's a two-way street, and if you think you can just blindly charge up it and run everyone over, well, you may end up in the intensive care. Metaphorically speaking. I presume. That man is my hero. Someone had to call this woman out on her total bullshit attitude and dismissive, arrogant and rude way of talking to everyone. Will it make a difference? Probably not. Will Sir Alan hear about it? You can bet your life. Will be take her to task in the Boardroom on it? I'd bet my house on it, if I owned my house. Saira could be in big trouble now. We always knew that gobby mouth of hers would get her into deep shit, now it looks to have happened.

Also, if she knew her football history, Sir Alan's name means nothing to Spurs. The fans hated him when he took over, as his first move was to fire the incredibly popular manager, Terry Venables, with whom he had bought a stake in the club. Perhaps significantly, 1991, the year Sugar took over the club, was the last year Spurs won the FA Cup, and a quick scan through their Premier League record seems to indicate that, while they were never relegated nor flirted with relegation under his stewardship, Tottenham sort of finished mid-table until Sugar fucked off, after which they began to be considered more a team capable of European football, even the odd league title. I don't know for sure if there were any protests against his taking over/running of the club, but it doesn't look to have been a smooth period and I doubt anyone was sorry to see him go, so using him as a veiled threat might be a counterproductive tactic, akin to promising a Man United supporter or member of staff that you would report them to the Glasers.

At any rate, whether it's Tim's superior football knowledge, their manner or just wanting to subconsciously get back at Saira,  Matt is far more helpful to Impact, agreeing with some of their ideas and clearing the way for their implementation. A lesson Saira has not learned in nine weeks, and probably never will, a very simple one that we all know, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. Proving me right, that she has not learned, Saira comes up with a slogan - "Get your "F" off to get your Spurs On". What? Spurs On is the name of the service, but what the - excuse my language - F does "Get your F off" mean, and what else can it be taken to mean? Unsurprisingly, Matt shoots the idea down right away. They should have expected that. After his spat with Saira, anything he can do now to hobble First Forte Matt will do, though it should have been obvious that this would be a non-runner from the start! Oh right: the fans text F to join the service (why F? Who knows?) so that was the pun. Yeah but far too risque, especially when so many young kids would be Spurs supporters. Idiots.

In the event, Sir Alan sends Margaret and Nick to have an emergency meeting with both teams and slap them down. Matt has not been impressed, and perhaps oddly, has not necessarily singled out either Saira or her team as the culprits, but has painted with a broad brush, removing some of Impact's routes to messaging, such as the Jumbotron (which he had already said they could use), the pitch, and the website. This is clearly a backlash against Saira's rudeness, and in a way, a very real way, whoever loses has her to blame. They're all now paying for her aggressive, bossy attitude, and Matt has seen fit to make sure that they know damn well who the boss is here. Sugar may be captain in his Boardroom, but round here he don't count for nothing. Both teams are told to be ultra-respectful in future, and it's very clear that both of them are going to have a serious uphill battle to win the task, now that these perhaps rather draconian restrictions have been placed upon them. It's quite funny in a way to see those six high-powered executives stand and be lectured like naughty schoolchildren by Margaret, though you do have to feel for Impact, who were nothing but polite and professional, and are now caught in the blowback resulting from Saira's cavernous gob and her complete, almost sociopathic lack of regard for decorum and politeness when dealing with others.

So it's back to the drawing board for both teams, but Impact are (say it) impacted the worst by the new restrictions. I'm not entirely sure they know why these conditions have been levelled upon them; Tim in particular takes it hard, given that all his great ideas were authorised and agreed yesterday, and now, today, are gone with the wind, so to speak. But I suppose you could see it as a test of resilience, and each team will have to go for a Plan B they probably didn't even have. That's the nature of the game; adapt, as they say, and survive. Or go home. From anyone else it would be unbelievable, but I suppose again you have to admire Saira's brass neck when she talks to the camera about how good a communicator she is! It's her bloody fault both teams are in the position they are now in! She just doesn't seem to see that, and for some reason her team doesn't talk to her about it, accuse her of making what was already a hard job ten times harder. Maybe they're afraid of her, or concerned that, should they lose, she'll bring it up at the Boardroom. Would be just like her.

Paul, having circumvented the ban on using the Spurs tannoy at the ground by buying a bullhorn (!) more or less then checks out. While the other two are busy working out the plan for the next day, the crucial day, matchday, he's playing snooker and taking a nap! A great example for a PM to set. Anyway it's mostly now down to fly posters, signs and flyers; why nobody thought to see the local radio station, or even TV station, or podcasters or the fan club, is a question I'm asking. But they haven't, and so it's a fairly basic push to try to notify the fans as they come into the stadium. I personally feel people on their way to a match with one of their hottest rivals are not going to be too bothered about a text system, but we'll see. First Forte have certainly been hard at work, as Impact see when they arrive at the stadium the next morning for the match. Tim is disheartened, calls their stand professional and his own "rubbish". Which, to be fair, it is. There's a world of difference between the two, and if anyone is going to see one, if one is going to attract attention it's the one made by Saira's team.

She's none too pleased when he starts taking down her posters in order to get his own up; theirs cover most of the stadium walls, so it's not really like he has a choice, but she is furious about him moving them. Mind you, Saira knows one thing about football: at least back when this was filmed, the majority of the fans are going to be male. And what do men love to see? Sexy girls. So she hires a troupe of models to drum up interest in their messaging system, and hopefully business for them. Paul has gone down the route of hiring people who are on a commission, so we'll see whose approach works best. It seems glamour girls may look sexy but they wouldn't know one end of a megaphone from the other, so Saira's assault on the incoming fans is delayed while she tries to train the girls on the thing, causing much mirth and a lot of gawking, but no sales as yet. Paul's people are already signing up fans, and now we learn he is in fact a Man United supporter, but is betraying his team just this once to pretend he's a Spurs fan. Hey, after all, the last thing you're going to do is work with the enemy, now is it? The only thing worse would be if he was an Arsenal fan!

Things aren't going well for Saira. She obviously has not thought this through. Having dolly birds is all well and good, but they need to know what they're doing, and she really doesn't have a clue how to motivate them. They're giggling and looking sort of embarrassed; this has to be a world removed from what they usually do for a living. Paul's team, on the other hand, are approaching people, getting them to take out their phones, showing them how to sign up, and making sure they do. Far better than just handing out flyers, a large percentage of which are going to end up crumpled on the ground around White Hart Lane, or in the bins.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 31, 2025, 02:03 AM
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The Boardroom

Predictably, Spurs lost, so Sir Alan is not in the greatest of moods when the teams return to the Boardroom. He also, I'm sure, will have to further deal with Saira's rudeness, which may have cost her team the task, and has certainly widened the divide between the ex-Spurs owner and the club. They won't be inviting him back again! And now, someone must pay. Although the reason for the restrictions being imposed on the teams by Tottenham are alluded to, Sir Alan doesn't seem to want to go into details, presumably well aware of who's to blame. Saira pretends she doesn't know what he's talking about and does not own up; her team also stay quiet. But when they lose, Impact beating them by more than twice as much, they know they're coming back and surely Saira is going to be in the firing line?

(As there are only three people left on each team, there's no point in doing "Return to the Boardroom". There won't be any difference between it and when the three come back, so we'll just stick with this).
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And then there were three...
Sir Alan is no fool, and he knows all about the spat Saira had with Matt, so now is the time to bring it up, when it may very well be the reason behind why they lost. Sir Alan's own beef with Spurs does lead him to think they were just messing his teams around (which they may have been, in part) but he also is well-informed and quite aware that there was something more behind it. He's trying to get Saira to admit her mistake, but she never will. Saira doesn't think she ever makes mistakes, or that anyone is ever in the right but her. Again he asks each of the candidates to justify their remaining in the process, and both say Saira should be the one he fires. But she talks herself into remaining, and when it's pretty clear he no longer wants to be there anyway - and when he actually makes that shocking revelation to Sir Alan that he's not a sales person - the boss literally puts Raj out of his misery and he exits the process. Saira's card has been marked, though.

QUOTES

Tim (ardent Liverpool fan): "Tottenham? No! We couldn't be going to Tottenham! I'm not walking into Tottenham!"

Raj: "I think we found the Spurs representative we were dealing with very difficult throughout the day. Every time we came up with an idea - can we do this? No. Can we do this? No.  It was that sort of an approach from him."
(Sounds like Adele and Harrods all over again!)

James: "She [Saira] didn't read his [Matt] language in terms of what he was saying he could and would do, and I don't think she was particularly sensitive in the way that she worded the request."

(And here it is)

Saira: "If there is absolutely no way, I will take your word for it, and I will relay that back to Sir Alan when I'm in the Boardroom."
Mattt (Spurs rep): "I mean, forgive me, but your tone is getting a bit overly aggressive."
Saira (inappropriately laughing): "Sorry about that." (she's not)
Matt: "I know you're under pressure, but it's a very important day for us, and  I don't appreciate you getting on your high horse and "Sir Alan this" and "Sir Alan that" to me. You will not get any value out of me if you carry on that route."
(which led to)
Margaret: "Now, we've had the Spurs director of communications in touch with us and there are some new ground rules that you're going to have to get used to. First of all, the website is out of bounds. Obviously you can use it to inform yourselves about things but you cannot add anything to it, or have links with it or anything. Secondly, no Jumbotron and no tannoy - those are out of bounds. Thirdly, no use of the pitch, no painting on it, no banners above it. Now, subject to that, enthusiasm is fine, but when it turns into pushiness, which it can do, and that can lead into aggression and even rudeness, it is totally unacceptable."
(You go, Margaret! Slap them down!)

Matt: "When we received the phone call on the first evening with the slogan "F off to get your Spurs On", we just thought it was inappropriate. We started to have some question marks in our mind as to whether it was suitable to open up all of the communication channels at the club, such as the website, the big screens at the stadium and so forth, because the tone and the execution of some of the creative was a bit risque."

Tim: "The other team's stand was professionally done; it looked very slick, very colourful and it was done to a higher quality than our stand. Ours was, it was rubbish."
(Nothing like a bit of honesty in the face of diversity!)

Handyman to Saira: "Calm down love, you'll 'ave an 'eart attack!"

Raj: "I don't like selling. Selling is not my forte."
(Uh, where the hell do you think you are, son?)


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Thoughts in the cab

Look, Raj speaks very rapidly and there are no subtitles, so I'm giving my best guess here. It doesn't really make sense but I've tried to get it five times. The guy just speaks in sort of rolling sentences in which the words are very hard to pick out individually. Also, fuck him.

Raj: "Overall it was Saira but you know what? I don't think she deserved for anyone to say that so I wasn't going to say it. I might have said it in a roundabout way but I'm lucky she stayed in, I'm glad she stayed in, she has shone but I'm happy for it to be me."
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You're fired!
Name: Raj Dhonata
Age:
Occupation: My god there were a lot of grey men in this first series weren't there? Here's another one. A man who blended into the background so much he could probably make a good living as a chameleon, Raj was conspicuous by his absence in every task. Even - especially - when he led it. I've never seen anyone lose interest so quickly, to the point where it really was a case of take him out to the shed and put him out of his misery. He was a weak, colourless individual who seemed so submissive that anyone could walk over him, as Saira happily did, and the competition loses nothing by losing him.

Nevertheless, he made it after the show. Despite being bankrupt at 30, he came back from the brink and created a successful outsourcing company he sold for a seven-figure sum, and is now a millionaire. Got to hand it to him then I guess. Maybe he was right and he didn't need The Apprentice, which he later described as a "complete, total, utter waste of time."

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First Forte: Saira was the most awful PM. Again. You'd think she'd have learned her lesson by now, but no, she's the same aggressive, arrogant, boorish and rude person she's been throughout. This week though, those chickens finally came home to roost, as she basically fucked with the wrong guy, and Matt made sure everyone paid, including the other team. She couldn't even take responsibility for her behaviour in the Boardroom. Dreadful.

PM Rating: :0.5stars:

Impact:  You certainly could not call Paul a strong leader. On day one, he was full of ideas, bouncing around like a kid who had eaten a bag of sugar or someone who had drank six cups of coffee on the trot, but after the knockback thanks to Saira he seemed to get very deflated, and took a more relaxed, "fuck it" attitude towards managing his team, leaving them to get on with it while he sunk some pool balls.

PM rating: :0.5stars:

May the best team win?

Impact had some great ideas, and though these were scuppered thanks to Saira (almost accidental or remote corporate espionage in a way) they had a more cohesive strategy as a Plan B, whereas Saira's was, oddly for a woman trying to succeed in business you would think, sex sells. But it doesn't sell itself, and that's where she fell seriously down, wasting time and faffing about with half-formed plans. Though First Forte had the stadium plastered in their high-quality notices, it was Impact's roll up your sleeves and get in there attitude that won them the task, so yes, the better team definitely won.

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Sight adjustment?

While there's no question that Raj deserved to be fired - and wanted to be - I think Saira was very lucky to escape (see below) and I really think Sugar was thinking with his heart and not his head, seeing something in her that nobody else can. A bit like Paul; he probably sees something of himself in her. Though upsetting the client is going to have tested that kind of loyalty to her, and she could be for the chop. Should have gone this week though. Bad mistake. He could have got rid of Raj next week.

Adjustment required: 80%

Oops!

Biggest mistake of course was Saira trying to threaten Matt with Sir Alan. There are people you can push around, and then there are people who will push back even harder. She annoyed - almost insulted - someone who had the power to make not only her life harder and more miserable, but that of the other team too, and that's exactly what the Spurs man did, and who could blame him?

The one that got away

Well who do you think? Saira must have some feline DNA in her, as she has made some serious errors and escaped firing twice at least, but that can't last forever. She's a loose cannon who listens to and respects nobody, and you know what Sir Alan thinks about loose cannons.
Title: Re: You're Fired! The Apprentice
Post by: Trollheart on Feb 05, 2025, 02:20 AM
Season one, episode eleven:
The Interviews

The penultimate episode is different, and revolves around a series of interviews. Having at this stage proven themselves worthy of being in the final four, each candidate is grilled by three of Sir Alan's top people. Their CVs are questioned, fact-checked and some padding revealed and challenged. Their personal lives are explored. The state of their current business - if they have one - is put under the microscope, and their business plans, submitted beforehand, almost literally torn apart. Everything is done to test each to their very limits, and more than one candidate over the years has been reduced to tears. Including the women. This is the hardest part for any candidate; there's no team, nobody else to blame, no time limit (as such). It's just them alone with each of Sir Alan's inquisitors, nowhere to hide, nowhere to run, no excuses accepted, no mistakes allowed, and no do-overs. At the end of the day, all three meet with Sir Alan to discuss their findings and to give him their impressions of each candidate. Then he invites them back to the Boardroom, where two are fired, leaving the two finalists to contest the last task, the one which will determine the winner.

The Task:
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The remaining candidates are summoned to Sir Alan's office, where the three interviewers wait. They are Claude Littner, whom we will get to know very well, his executive troubleshooter, Bordan Tkachuk, CEO of Viglen (whatever that is), whom I think we won't see again, and Paul Kemsley, of Rock Investments, ditto. Saira, interviewed by Paul Kemsley, is told she is a liar, and he has the proof in her CV, where she says she changed dates to make herself look better, Paul's inability to control his temper comes up, and Tim's rather humble current job as a ticket agent in a railway station is also questioned. This is a chance for the candidates to push themselves, but they also have to defend certain things they have done, in business or in their personal lives, and to see if these failings or errors might rule them out of the running. It's a fine line to tread: they have to be confident but not arrogant, humble but not submissive, listen to criticism and decide whether to accept or contest it, and explain almost every decision they've ever made, good or bad. It's exhausting.

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The Boardroom
The three interviewers confer with Sir Alan and give him their impressions. James, it seems, has not impressed: they think he's there for the cameras and the fame. He already earns a six-figure salary, so they can't work out why he wants to take a job which will pay him significantly less, and they find him aloof and, well, considering himself a cut above the rest, which we've seen. He's a nice guy, but he lives in a different world. Saira's loud, often aggressive manner gets taken to task; these are qualities which may make her unlikeable in an office environment. One thing the candidate will have to do is get on with everyone else there, and we've seen in no uncertain terms this is not something Saira does well. It really is her way or no way, and that may not go down well with already established staff members. She's dismissed as just a salesperson.

Tim's lack of experience is questioned, but he seems to have got the nod otherwise from most of the interviewers, while Paul seems to have had the opposite effect. Too aggressive, too confrontational, and since he has a very successful and lucrative property portfolio, the reasons behind his wanting this job are very much questioned. His arrogance, too, in basically saying that he believes Sir Alan needs him, hurts his chances. It is interesting how the three interviewers don't agree: Hemsley thinks it should be Tim, Littner fancies James as the best candidate and Nick and Margaret go for Saira. They are all agreed though that it's not Paul. Nevertheless, as ever, it will be Sir Alan who makes the final decision.

Return to the Boardroom

Both James and Paul are asked to justify their reasons for being there, since they are both already rich and successful. I can't honestly say their replies satisfy Sir Alan, who seems to think in Paul's case it's ludicrous to work for yourself and make a fortune, and then want to go as he sees it backwards, and work for someone else. Tim's lack of experience is brought up, as is Saira's lack of control over her temper. Things begin to swing in Tim's direction though when Sir Alan says he's proud of him, as a fellow East End boy, whose mother brought up her three children alone, working three jobs. He seems impressed, and leaning towards him. Of course, you never know with Sir Alan: he can be 99 percent sure and then suddenly do a complete 180 and throw off your calculations, and when you thought you were safe, you find yourself sitting in the back of a black London cab, as Miriam discovered last week.

But this time he does choose Tim as one of the finalists, he lets James go, as he's not convinced he'll commit to his cause, and of the remaining three, he has a real go at Paul about his arrogant claim that he won't be learning from Sir Alan if he chooses him, he'll be coming there to help him; that any problems the mogul can't sort out for himself he will be looking to Paul to fix. This seems to have really annoyed him, especially as he is probably now wondering if he was right to give him a chance and leave him in the process. He's looking at that decision now, and asking himself if he was thinking with his heart and not his head. Even after he's fired the little fucker won't shut up, asking why he's been criticised so much. My god he is arrogant.

Well, that leaves two, so Saira and Tim will fight it out next week in the final task, after which one of them will be the Apprentice.


QUOTES

Sir Alan: "This whole process has never ever been a joke, as far as I'm concerned, and I don't want any of you to think  that I personally am going to be persuaded by what television companies and production companies want to see, and want to hear, in choosing the person that's going to come and work for me. Okay? Get that right in your heads. Get it right in your heads, because I mean it. Because seriously, there's a job here for somebody, okay? And you might have thought, throughout the course of this exercise that it has been a bit of a game, and I can understand you having those feelings, but look at me - look in my eyes. I'm telling you that I don't give a monkey's about what they think. I don't listen to what they tell me, and I don't listen to what any television company tells me to do. I'm looking for somebody to work for me: serious, dead serious."

(This speech is not really aimed at the candidates - though partially, it is. It's mostly a broadside against the BBC and the production company, where Sir Alan is saying you may view this as entertainment, but for me, it's damned serious, and I won't be told who to choose. I don't care whether a specific demographic suits the BBC better or not. I'll choose who I think is the best, not who I'm told I should or must choose. In this, he's probably putting down a marker, saying I'm a maverick, I won't be controlled, but you know and I know this show is already a hit in America and it's going to be even bigger here, so if you want me, then you get me on my terms and mine alone. Otherwise I can go over to the other side.)

Paul: "If I were Sir Alan, I would employ me."

Bordan Nunchuk sorry Tkachuk: "I'm a bit confused. I thought the name of the programme was The Apprentice. I thought you were coming here to learn."
Paul: "In that case, why doesn't he get some spotty-faced teenager, some 17-year old off the street, rather than someone who's 34 years old?"


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Thoughts in the cab

James: "I gave it my best shot. In a sense, I think it's slightly disappointing that people didn't break through perhaps that perception of me and my aspirations. Maybe he just thought I wasn't right personality-wise for him or his team, and I respect that."

Paul: "Yes, sometimes I am tough in my approach, but I definitely don't see it as being aggressive, and a good salesman, a good entrepreneur and a good businessman has to be aggressive. Sir Alan never made his £700 million fortune by being soft, and when he said to me in one or two Boardrooms that there are elements within me that he saw many years ago in himself, so I thought well that's going to stand me in good stead; it shows him that I am built of the same kind of stuff. But obviously that didn't count for shit really, because he fired me.

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You're fired!
Name: James Max
Age:
Occupation: Investment banker

James was the nice guy, the toff of the group. He was clearly born after his time; you could see him sitting on a horse hunting foxes with the rest of the squires, or attending royal galas, maybe meeting fellow moguls at the Stock Exchange. In fairness, he was never condescending or talked down to the others, but you could see he was out of his comfort zone living with them. He was very polite, very gentille, and not the sort of man to push a negotiation into rudeness, something that did not bother Saira, or some of the others. He went on to be head of PR for a property investment website, and does business radio shows in his spare time on LBC.

Name: Paul Torrisi
Age: 34
Occupation: Property developer

Paul's arrogance and his failure to keep his temper in check meant that he almost essentially talked himself out of the job. Sir Alan seemed to be keeping him in despite these failings, seeing something of himself in him, but when all of his advisors and interviewers said the same thing about Paul, he could no longer fool himself and had to put on his business head, firing Paul. Showing that he was pretty enamoured by him though, Sir Alan later offered him a job running his airline Amsair, but Paul turned it down. Arrogance again, you see. He continues to be a successful and very rich property owner, and has also had something of a television career.