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Title: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 06, 2025, 11:57 PM
Just in case you've all gone blind and haven't noticed, or are wondering what is happening. I've been stomping around Guybrush's lovely apartment in my size 12s, rearranging the furniture. I've added a sub-forum to the sports one, dedicated to football (soccer), since I'm running so many threads on the subject. I've also - not that anyone cares - put a sub-forum on my own journals section, this to cover TV programmes taken from or begun in my old journal The Couch Potato, and finally I've added an "album reviews" sub-forum to the music section. This last is mostly because I have so many album review threads, and I don't want them clogging up or taking over the music section. If you have a thread you think should be moved there, let me know.

In association with Guybrush, anyone who thinks other sub-forums are required let me know and we'll see what we can do. Hope the changes aren't too off-putting, and the "moved" notices will be gone within a week.

Now, how the hell do I get out of this place? I KNOW I had the alarm code here somewhere. Uh-oh! Are they flashing blue lights I see outside...?
:shycouch:
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jan 07, 2025, 03:22 AM
You wear a size 12 shoe?

Wtf.

Thought you were a size 3 or 4 tbh.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 07, 2025, 06:30 PM
No I don't. I'm actually size 8. It's just a way of describing being less than graceful. I actually have quite small feet. :laughing:
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Mindy on Jan 07, 2025, 07:27 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/FYJZxxc/9fxc7p.jpg)
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 07, 2025, 10:28 PM
Done. You'll find it as a sub-forum of "Other Media". You want to curate it?
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Mindy on Jan 09, 2025, 08:46 AM
Quote from: Trollheart on Jan 07, 2025, 10:28 PMDone. You'll find it as a sub-forum of "Other Media". You want to curate it?
Thank you sir!

Yes, that would be great!

Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Weekender on Jan 14, 2025, 07:52 PM
No more subforums!
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 14, 2025, 10:21 PM
More sub-forums for some, miniature American flags for others!  :laughing:
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 22, 2025, 05:12 PM
I'm sure this will drive Weekender up the wall, but I've opened a new sub forum for Heavy Metal in the Music forum, as I have a lot of metal-themed threads to port over, and I don't want to be crowding out the music forum. Also, many people have no interest in metal (philistines) so I don't want to be bothering them with threads they're not interested in. Therefore, any metalheads or anyone interested in metal can seek these threads out in the new sub-forum.

I'm open to adding extra sub-forums for other genres, like we had on Music Banter, but only if people want them, so if you'd like, say, a dedicated sub-forum for electronic music or jazz or hip-hop or Norwegian nose flute music, drop a post in here and if Guybrush doesn't chase me away with a broom I'll sort it.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Mindy on Jan 23, 2025, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on Jan 22, 2025, 05:12 PMI'm sure this will drive Weekender up the wall, but I've opened a new sub forum for Heavy Metal in the Music forum, as I have a lot of metal-themed threads to port over, and I don't want to be crowding out the music forum. Also, many people have no interest in metal (philistines) so I don't want to be bothering them with threads they're not interested in. Therefore, any metalheads or anyone interested in metal can seek these threads out in the new sub-forum.

I'm open to adding extra sub-forums for other genres, like we had on Music Banter, but only if people want them, so if you'd like, say, a dedicated sub-forum for electronic music or jazz or hip-hop or Norwegian nose flute music, drop a post in here and if Guybrush doesn't chase me away with a broom I'll sort it.

If you created a Hip-Hop subforum.... It wouldn't be empty
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Guybrush on Jan 23, 2025, 04:04 PM
I'm generally not in favour of sub-forums.. but if it's the best way to de-clutter the other forums of @Trollheart's threads, then I guess it's a different matter 😄
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jan 23, 2025, 05:56 PM
Politics sub-forum inside the lounge would be decent.

There's too much politicking going on.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 23, 2025, 06:02 PM
we should make a sub-forum for each class that exists here.  poor, even poorer, billionaire, we need to segregate the members of SCD like you've never seen before on a forum.  we need to, seperate these dangerous lines of thought, so that no consensus can be made ever and so that our own dangerous minds can be contained and regulated.  and administered treatement.  we need to, make permissions based on these classes and then make it so that certain forum members can only react to posts and not post themselves and etc. types of rules.

whose with me???1!!?!!?!??!
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 23, 2025, 06:33 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 23, 2025, 04:04 PMI'm generally not in favour of sub-forums.. but if it's the best way to de-clutter the other forums of @Trollheart's threads, then I guess it's a different matter 😄
Yes, my threads can be likened to this... soon they will cover a quarter of the Earth's surface. Something must be done!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jan 23, 2025, 05:56 PMPolitics sub-forum inside the lounge would be decent.

There's too much politicking going on.
NP and good idea. We do have something to learn from MB.

Quote from: QuantumSync on Jan 23, 2025, 02:02 PMIf you created a Hip-Hop subforum.... It wouldn't be empty
Yo!
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: jimmy jazz on Jan 23, 2025, 06:46 PM
Big T will you be moving threads into the politics section?

Cheers BTW.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 23, 2025, 06:59 PM
Yes of course. I'm just about to do that now. I'll leave a little note to say where they've been moved to.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Weekender on Jan 25, 2025, 12:47 AM
Quote from: Trollheart on Jan 22, 2025, 05:12 PMI'm sure this will drive Weekender up the wall, but I've opened a new sub forum for Heavy Metal in the Music forum, as I have a lot of metal-themed threads to port over, and I don't want to be crowding out the music forum. Also, many people have no interest in metal (philistines) so I don't want to be bothering them with threads they're not interested in. Therefore, any metalheads or anyone interested in metal can seek these threads out in the new sub-forum.

I'm open to adding extra sub-forums for other genres, like we had on Music Banter, but only if people want them, so if you'd like, say, a dedicated sub-forum for electronic music or jazz or hip-hop or Norwegian nose flute music, drop a post in here and if Guybrush doesn't chase me away with a broom I'll sort it.

Actually, I'm happy with metal being contained to one thread.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Jan 25, 2025, 01:10 AM
Yes, there is no escape. Hammer the planks across the door, lock the front door and just leave us to blast ourself to riffdom oblivion. Just how we likes it.  :laughing:
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: velocity on Apr 30, 2025, 08:36 AM
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jan 07, 2025, 03:22 AMYou wear a size 12 shoe?

Wtf.

Thought you were a size 3 or 4 tbh.
Sounds like you've been busy giving the place a solid refresh! The new sub-forums make total sense and should help keep everything organized. Don't worry the changes are welcome, not off-putting. Good luck finding that alarm code! 😄
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: jimmy jazz on Apr 30, 2025, 02:51 PM
Quote from: velocity on Apr 30, 2025, 08:36 AMSounds like you've been busy giving the place a solid refresh! The new sub-forums make total sense and should help keep everything organized. Don't worry the changes are welcome, not off-putting. Good luck finding that alarm code! 😄

What size are your feet?
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: tristan_geoff on Apr 30, 2025, 04:41 PM
lets make one where we talk about etymology
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Key on Apr 30, 2025, 07:08 PM
The subforums for the music forum seem a bit odd. We have hip hop and heavy metal but no other genres as sub forums. Is there any reason for it?
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2025, 07:08 PM
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Apr 30, 2025, 04:41 PMlets make one where we talk about etymology

Action, not words, is what I say!  :laughing:
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2025, 07:10 PM
Quote from: Key on Apr 30, 2025, 07:08 PMThe subforums for the music forum seem a bit odd. We have hip hop and heavy metal but no other genres as sub forums. Is there any reason for it?

Not really. These seem to be the only ones really being discussed. I mean, we could put in ska or punk or vaporwave if they're required, but I didn't see any point in adding a bunch of extra sub-forums that would remain empty.

Basically, if you're interested in a music genre and want a sub-forum, give us a shout.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: tristan_geoff on Apr 30, 2025, 08:10 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2025, 07:10 PMNot really. These seem to be the only ones really being discussed. I mean, we could put in ska or punk or vaporwave if they're required, but I didn't see any point in adding a bunch of extra sub-forums that would remain empty.

Basically, if you're interested in a music genre and want a sub-forum, give us a shout.

make a punk one and an electronic/experimental one and I'm content
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2025, 08:19 PM
Okay done.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Key on Apr 30, 2025, 08:43 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2025, 07:10 PMNot really. These seem to be the only ones really being discussed. I mean, we could put in ska or punk or vaporwave if they're required, but I didn't see any point in adding a bunch of extra sub-forums that would remain empty.

Basically, if you're interested in a music genre and want a sub-forum, give us a shout.

Ah gotcha, that makes sense
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Guybrush on May 01, 2025, 08:22 AM
There is a definite tendency to "bloat" a forum. Genres are a good example. If you make a rock forum, it might seem inevitable that you now also have to create more subforums for the other genres.

I think it's better to hold back on this instinct as every new forum potentially also brings with it more clutter and more difficult navigation overall.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on May 01, 2025, 07:30 PM
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I would add that unused sub-forums which have been requested run the risk of being deleted. If you request a sub-forum, then use it or lose it. Any new sub-forums added by member request which have not had at least one thread posted within a week will run the risk of being shut down. After two weeks of zero activity the member who requested the sub-forum(s) will be advised and if there is no improvement after three weeks the sub-forum will be deleted. If this is done, it will not be re-established.

This isn't meant to be a heavy-handed warning, but honestly, if you really need a sub-forum and we oblige, then we expect you to use it. We need to see that there actually is/was a need for such. Take your cue from Mindy/Deepminder: as soon as he got the go-ahead for his IT sub-forum he started creating thread after thread, and now there's no stopping him. That's what we want to see.

As of today, neither the Punk nor the Electronic/Experimental sub-forums, requested yesterday, have seen a single post, never mind a single thread. While of course we realise people are busy and we don't expect you to have been parked outside with a van ready to move in, we would like to see some action in these sub-forums to justify their creation.

To the person who wanted a sub-forum for underwater transport though, we must decline. There is no way we can create a sub sub-forum, sorry.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Mindy on May 01, 2025, 07:52 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on May 01, 2025, 07:30 PM(https://media2.giphy.com/media/AJdept24OrIkTN5uLu/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952s8tm118dmpurfjgcey4b62utj2wdfc92uae09izc&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
I would add that unused sub-forums which have been requested run the risk of being deleted. If you request a sub-forum, then use it or lose it. Any new sub-forums added by member request which have not had at least one thread posted within a week will run the risk of being shut down. After two weeks of zero activity the member who requested the sub-forum(s) will be advised and if there is no improvement after three weeks the sub-forum will be deleted. If this is done, it will not be re-established.

This isn't meant to be a heavy-handed warning, but honestly, if you really need a sub-forum and we oblige, then we expect you to use it. We need to see that there actually is/was a need for such. Take your cue from Mindy/Deepminder: as soon as he got the go-ahead for his IT sub-forum he started creating thread after thread, and now there's no stopping him. That's what we want to see.

As of today, neither the Punk nor the Electronic/Experimental sub-forums, requested yesterday, have seen a single post, never mind a single thread. While of course we realise people are busy and we don't expect you to have been parked outside with a van ready to move in, we would like to see some action in these sub-forums to justify their creation.

To the person who wanted a sub-forum for underwater transport though, we must decline. There is no way we can create a sub sub-forum, sorry.

Thank you  8)


Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Key on May 01, 2025, 10:10 PM
Quote from: Trollheart on May 01, 2025, 07:30 PM(https://media2.giphy.com/media/AJdept24OrIkTN5uLu/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952s8tm118dmpurfjgcey4b62utj2wdfc92uae09izc&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
I would add that unused sub-forums which have been requested run the risk of being deleted. If you request a sub-forum, then use it or lose it. Any new sub-forums added by member request which have not had at least one thread posted within a week will run the risk of being shut down. After two weeks of zero activity the member who requested the sub-forum(s) will be advised and if there is no improvement after three weeks the sub-forum will be deleted. If this is done, it will not be re-established.

This isn't meant to be a heavy-handed warning, but honestly, if you really need a sub-forum and we oblige, then we expect you to use it. We need to see that there actually is/was a need for such. Take your cue from Mindy/Deepminder: as soon as he got the go-ahead for his IT sub-forum he started creating thread after thread, and now there's no stopping him. That's what we want to see.

As of today, neither the Punk nor the Electronic/Experimental sub-forums, requested yesterday, have seen a single post, never mind a single thread. While of course we realise people are busy and we don't expect you to have been parked outside with a van ready to move in, we would like to see some action in these sub-forums to justify their creation.

To the person who wanted a sub-forum for underwater transport though, we must decline. There is no way we can create a sub sub-forum, sorry.

I just don't see what a sub forum does differently than a "official [insert genre] thread can do just as well. This just seems like it's adding more stuff for you guys to manage for no reason.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on May 01, 2025, 11:05 PM
From my point of view, what it does is provide a place for like-minded people to go, knowing they're going to hear discussion on and music from only that genre, rather than have to either sift through threads on the main forum to get to what they want or constantly create new ones. Also, those threads could have pushed down their own, let's call it "Electronic Music" one, so it might be harder to find. Not only that, but anything like punk or jazz or hip-hop - any musical genre really - can hardly be expected to be contained within the confines of one thread, so you need to be able to create threads within threads, so to speak, and that's what a sub-forum is for I think.

To use concepts you might be more familiar with (and here I'm NOT advocating or inviting the opening of sub-forums, so don't ask!) would you rather have one "games" sub-forum or one divided into say FPS, Strategy, MMMORPGs etc? It's the same with music: I can understand how it's so hard to contain everything about music in the one sub-forum.

To throw another analogy at ya: say you love EDM music and go to a club but they're playing, I don't know, Norwegian Nose Flute Folk Music. Wouldn't you rather have a club you can go to that is guaranteed to play only EDM? So as long as there is a need or desire for it, as long as it can be justified, from my point of view anyway, sub-forums can be the way to go. Not only do they allow the adherents of that music genre a place where they can gather and nerd out, they clear up the main music forum too.

Ironically, this is the absolute reverse of what Guybrush says, but I believe it to be the case. There can of course be TOO many sub-forums, so finding a good balance is what it's about. And no, I won't open a sub-forum for Nowegian Nose Flute Folk Music!
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Key on May 01, 2025, 11:16 PM
There are a lot of cases where that is true. I just wouldn't want the forum to get too cluttered as I will admit, as someone that mostly forums on mobile, it does somewhat look cluttered with all the subforums but maybe that's just my experience. Maybe your idea of removing them is good tho I just hope that doesn't create extra work for you guys.
Title: Re: Extra sub-forums
Post by: Trollheart on May 01, 2025, 11:21 PM
Don't worry: if the sub-forum is not used then it's as simple as a few clicks to get rid of it. All I ask is that if someone requests a sub-forum they use it, as I now see is happening in both the punk and electronic/experimental ones. I'm even posting in the (guess) .... latter. Obviously the last thing we want is a cluttered forum full of ghost sub-forums, but if there's a genuine, pressing need for one or more, we're happy enough to add it or them if it makes it easier for people to chat about what they want to, where they want to.

I guess another advantage of sub-forums is that those who are not interested in the topic will not usually bother going there, unless they want to troll or cause trouble, so a sub-forum dedicated to a specific genre should in theory only be populated by people who are interested in it.