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[jimmy jazz]

It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?

Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.

[Toy Revolver]

Why does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.

About Finland, I'm glad that Putin's plans seem to backfire so hard. That's what you get when you create a world of lies, I guess.

i'm not against gun violence- i'm against the wrong people falling victim to it - right to carry is the right to equalize

this is especially liberating for black women in poor neighborhoods

[Toy Revolver]

It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?

Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.

just want to say anyone who supports continuing arming the police and military are pro gun

i'm the only one i know who supports completely disarming the government which makes me the only gun control advocate as well

[Janszoon]

It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?

Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.

Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

[jimmy jazz]

It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?

Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.

Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

Fair enough seems about even then, I'm pleasantly surprised only 6% of the respondents think there is no problem with gun violence in the US.

So most people accept there is.

That's a good place to start.

[SGR]

Why does it seem like the US wants more gun violence instead of less? Nuts.

About Finland, I'm glad that Putin's plans seem to backfire so hard. That's what you get when you create a world of lies, I guess.

i'm not against gun violence- i'm against the wrong people falling victim to it - right to carry is the right to equalize

this is especially liberating for black women in poor neighborhoods

As the old saying goes: "They say God made man, but Sam Colt made them equal"

[Toy Revolver]

dang

kid rock is INTENSELY transphobic

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/kid-rock-bud-light-woke-trans-protest-dylan-mulvaney-1234709445/

[Lexi Darling]

Hysterical. I hope every company announces support for trans people so conservatives won't be able to buy any products.

[Toy Revolver]

Hysterical. I hope every company announces support for trans people so conservatives won't be able to buy any products.

way more beer is sold at gay friendly nightclubs than at washed up midlife crisis concerts

sorry conservatives capitalism isn't going to save you on this one

[Trollheart]

Maybe they can usher in a new era of prohibition.  For conservatives only. While the rest of us get on with our lives. 

[Psy-Fi]

dang

kid rock is INTENSELY transphobic

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/kid-rock-bud-light-woke-trans-protest-dylan-mulvaney-1234709445/

Real men don't drink light beer.  

[Nimbly9]

Light beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.

[Psy-Fi]

Light beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.

It's like sex in a canoe.

[Janszoon]

Light beer, to be fair, is kinda meh.

It's like sex in a canoe.

Fun and outdoorsy.

[Jwb]

It would be interesting to see a referendum on something like this. Has there ever been any kind of opinion poll on gun control?

Going entirely off my discussions with my American friends online it does seem like a majority are pro gun. I could be wrong but I dunno.

Here's a poll from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

Fair enough seems about even then, I'm pleasantly surprised only 6% of the respondents think there is no problem with gun violence in the US.

So most people accept there is.

That's a good place to start.

its not a good place to start if by that you mean that we can eventually ban guns in this country.

I'm not trying to sound condescending here but most Europeans and brits really don't understand how firmly entrenched guns are in our society.

It would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of gun rights. That's simply not going to happen.  We have a better chance of seeing a genuine revolution or civil war than we do of peacefully banning  guns in the United States.

There are minor things that can potentially be done and should be done like tweaking the red flag laws,  background checks etc.  But it won't make a dent in the 10 thousand or so gun murders a year.

 Another thing i wanted to mention.  From the pew article:

For example, a majority of Republicans who don't own a gun (57%) say they favor creating a federal government database to track all gun sales, ...

Honestly i feel like this is one thing that could make an actual difference: a properly enforced database for gun registry that holds people accountable for maintaining the possession of their gun . In other words,  if it's sold, stolen, misplaced etc all of that should be something you have to register with a state agency.  This is to try to make it harder for people to just buy guns through the legal market and then turn around and sell them on the black market with scratched off serial numbers so they can be used in murders and wiped for prints and thrown in a river. Then they can't be traced.

If you were to use your gun which is in your name in a murder,  it can potentially be traced back to you through ballistic forensics. Fortunately for all the gang members in this country,  it's currently very easy to get an illegal gun that is not linked to your name in any way because any attempt to monitor gun sales is just "the first step to them rounding up gun owners and taking their guns." And if you listen to the right, it's supposedly crucially important we don't ever allow that to happen cause then tyranny! Hitler and Mao banned guns etc.  It's all a bunch of happy horseshit that people just repeat mindlessly.

Meanwhile we've gone hundreds of years without any body ever successfully revolting against our government.  We live in a virtual police state. We have the patriot act and the NSA. And when armed citizens do take to the streets they're much more likely to terrorize other civilians than they are to ever stand up for anybodys rights.  If anything,  guns just give us the illusion of power. Which keeps us complacent. What's the point of a gun if you're not going to use it?