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Title: The Metal Thread
Post by: Gandalf on Jun 06, 2023, 09:46 PM
What metal are you folks listening to lately?


The album Psychocephalic Spawning by Effluence is a bonkers and inhuman mixture of brutal death metal and free jazz. It's probably about as extreme as metal gets.


Some black/thrash from this year that's pretty good. Not very original, but still a good listen.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jun 07, 2023, 03:46 AM

It should come as a surprise to absolutely no one that this is my favorite Black Sabbath song. In early 2020 just before Covid hit, I actually started (or planned to start) a stoner metal band that was just synths and drums, inspired very directly by this song.

I kinda lost contact with my drummer friend who was going to be in the band, but listening to this song always brings back that pre-Covid optimism that we were going to totally crush it with this band thing.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: TheBig3 on Jun 07, 2023, 03:30 PM
I'm a very proud Sabaton fan, loving the new King Gizzard, and I'm a life long Metallica fan. Beyond that, I listen to metal like I do all other genres. I'm more into songs than albums, and I typically find a lot of albums have 2+ songs worth of filler.

I really wish Eternal Champion would put out more. The Armor of Ire was incredible. I also generally like Mastodon, but I haven't found a way to love them as I do other bands. To whatever degree TOOL is metal, I like them as well. Some one-off tracks that are always in rotation

Wings of Feather & Wax - Killer Be Killed
Pilgrim - Arch Enemy
The Coheed version of The Trooper
Speaking of Coheed I think a few tracks of theirs should count: Dark Sentencer, Vic the Butcher, maybe Welcome Home
The sometimes stoner-metal of Clutch I enjoy


I don't really like Cookie Monster vocals, or those Black Metal yappy shrieks. But I try to branch out. Open to recommendations.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Guybrush on Jun 07, 2023, 03:43 PM
I don't listen to much metal at all, but I did enjoy this cover that I discovered recently and have probably posted elsewhere as well.


Of course I like the original and Megadeth in general :)
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jun 07, 2023, 03:44 PM
Not exactly metal in this instance but if you like Mastodon and/or hard hitting synth music I would highly recommend Arcadea. It's a Mastodon side project that's all synths and drums.


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Gandalf on Jun 21, 2023, 09:56 PM

Very intense and ridiculously heavy sludge metal. Good music for when you're feeling pissed off and want to punch someone.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jun 21, 2023, 10:12 PM
Whoa, blast from the past! I forgot all about that band, I listened to that album a bunch in college.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Gandalf on Jun 22, 2023, 09:15 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jun 21, 2023, 10:12 PMWhoa, blast from the past! I forgot all about that band, I listened to that album a bunch in college.
I'm only discovering it now. It's one hell of an album!
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Norg on Jun 23, 2023, 07:46 AM
Caustic RNA Transmogrification- sounds orginal good drummer i like the random like kid drum sounds here in there

Hellripper-ehhh classic metal

man yall really like mastodon huh there drummer is great and that side project sounds dope KBK also a mastodon side thing AA sounds slow n heavy straight nu metal like


when i go to music stores i just grab random stuff in the metal section stuff i never heard the name of before or also go buy the artwork :P these 2 i had recently discovered





both bands are dope and im glad there both carrying the torch for METAL !!!!
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jun 26, 2023, 12:54 PM

I woke up too early this morning and I'm a bit cranky because of it so I listened to this during my morning walk. Some br00tal slam was just what I needed today.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: FETCHER. on Jun 28, 2023, 10:37 PM
I just seen Metallica twice as part of their 72 seasons tour, I had never seen them before and they blew my head off.

What a band. How those guys can pull that off at 60 I'll never know. They were incredible and played amazingly on both nights.

I've been starting to enjoy metal more over the last few years.. considering all I ever used to listen to was electronica, it has been quite a change 😂
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jun 28, 2023, 11:37 PM
Quote from: FETCHER. on Jun 28, 2023, 10:37 PMI just seen Metallica twice as part of their 72 seasons tour, I had never seen them before and they blew my head off.

What a band. How those guys can pull that off at 60 I'll never know. They were incredible and played amazingly on both nights.

I've been starting to enjoy metal more over the last few years.. considering all I ever used to listen to was electronica, it has been quite a change 😂

Ah, nice! I saw them back in 2003, I remember them being really good, but it was a huge arena show and to be honest my senses were pretty overwhelmed by the whole experience. It was like my fourth or fifth ever concert as well.

My music journey was kind of the opposite haha, I was a rock kid through and through with just a couple electronic artists, mostly rock or pop adjacent. After I discovered my love of synthesizers I dove headfirst into the electronic world, though I still listen to a lot of rock.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 04, 2023, 09:20 PM
Car Bomb - Black Blood


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 04, 2023, 09:23 PM
Crowbar - Planets Collide

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 06, 2023, 06:25 PM
Dir En Grey - Vinushka


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 06, 2023, 06:30 PM
Methwitch - Bed Full of Snakes

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Oct 06, 2023, 09:27 PM
Quote from: Meatwad on Oct 06, 2023, 06:30 PMMethwitch - Bed Full of Snakes


That was pretty cool. Very Slipknot kinda vibes, I dig. That and the band name remind me of the drummer from my old band, who was both a meth head and a big Slipknot fan.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 06, 2023, 09:35 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Oct 06, 2023, 09:27 PMThat was pretty cool. Very Slipknot kinda vibes, I dig. That and the band name remind me of the drummer from my old band, who was both a meth head and a big Slipknot fan.

Yeah Methwitch seems like a slightly more abrasive version of Slipknot.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Trollheart on Oct 07, 2023, 12:56 AM
Ah ya can't beat the classics!

"Aces High" - Iron Maiden

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: SixtyTonAngel on Oct 07, 2023, 11:18 AM
Quote from: Trollheart on Oct 07, 2023, 12:56 AMAh ya can't beat the classics!

"Aces High" - Iron Maiden

Ahhh, here's a man of culture. Magnificent band. I used to admin MFU(MaidenFansUnited) many years ago after the IMBB decided to charge money to post on their official forums. Good times.

Here's one of my personal Maiden favourites for you
 
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Oct 07, 2023, 12:40 PM
My favorite Maiden stuff is their mid-late 80s period. Shocking I know, the synth chick likes the albums where they used synths, haha.

This song has always been a favorite.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 07, 2023, 02:08 PM
Megadeth - Tornado of Souls


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Trollheart on Oct 07, 2023, 05:55 PM
I said it before about Maiden, and so, inevitably, I will say it again: I see them with three distinct "phases" - 1980 -1981, D'ianno era, where they were rawer, more punky, yet did write some amazing songs ("Killers", "Drifter", "Iron Maiden", "Phantom of the Opera" and so on) then obviously you have the Dickinson era - 1982 - 1992 when they had the world at their feet. More "commercial Maiden"? Maybe, but can anyone dare doubt the metal credentials of "Number of the Beast", "Flight of Icarus", "Powerslave", "Fear of the Dark" or "Hallowed be thy Name"? Classic Maiden, a time when the band almost single-handedly made metal more accessible and cool. Then Bruce departs and you have the "wilderness years" 1995 - 1999. I personally don't have anything against Blaze Bayley, but the poor quality on those two albums I blame more on the absence of Adrian and the general lack of interest of the rest of the band, Harris included. I hate those albums. Finally Bruce returns as a new millennium dawns and we have the superlative Brave New World, though after that I must admit I'm not that familiar with their output, and none of the following albums ever really grabbed me like those from the classic era. Maiden began to get a little more proggy, the songs a little bloated: the edge is not gone (listen to "Speed of Light" or "Death or Glory"), but can anyone really, hand on metal heart, say we needed an eighteen-minute Maiden song? "Empire of the Clouds?" More like "Empire of the Snores".

I have yet to hear the latest one, but I see it's their second double, and I do wonder if they're stretching themselves too far and too thin now? I mean, eighty minutes? And two tracks that are in double figures? Well, I won't pass judgement yet because as I say, ain't heard it yet and, to be quite honest, in no particular hurry to. But for me, classic Maiden will always be the one I return to. "Live to fly, fly to live, aces somethiiiiinnnnngggg!"

Oh and yeah, I realise that's actually four eras. Hell, maths was never my strong suit.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 12, 2023, 08:57 AM
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Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 12, 2023, 09:01 AM
I knew about Ice T's / Body Counts Slayer influence a long time ago, but this song is about the best indication of that.

Body Count - The Hate is Real

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Oct 12, 2023, 11:43 AM
Quote from: Meatwad on Oct 12, 2023, 09:01 AMI knew about Ice T's / Body Counts Slayer influence a long time ago, but this song is about the best indication of that.

Body Count - The Hate is Real



Other than the time they actually covered Slayer of course.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 15, 2023, 03:34 PM
Periphery - Blood Eagle


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 15, 2023, 03:42 PM
Anthrax - Inside Out


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Oct 18, 2023, 06:48 AM
Portrayal of Guilt - The Sixth Circle

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Gandalf on Oct 18, 2023, 08:54 PM
It's dawning on me lately how good Panopticon is.

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Oct 19, 2023, 07:39 AM
Carcass
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Oct 23, 2023, 06:44 AM
Strapping Young Lad - Wrongside


Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Gandalf on Jan 26, 2024, 09:39 PM
Portal - Abysmill


Some really cool avant-garde metal. I love the guitar tones used throughout the album.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 28, 2024, 03:56 AM
I like "post metal" which gets to be in quotes because it isn't a real genre. Mostly atmospheric sludge is what my taste is but I've been meaning to branch out into atmospheric black metal.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 12:59 AM
Quote from: robhr on Jan 28, 2024, 03:56 AMI like "post metal" which gets to be in quotes because it isn't a real genre. Mostly atmospheric sludge is what my taste is but I've been meaning to branch out into atmospheric black metal.

Doomgaze is good too Post-Metal's got some great bands I love those posty's
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 01:26 AM
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 12:59 AMDoomgaze is good too Post-Metal's got some great bands I love those posty's

Yes, doomgaze must be explored by me too.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 03:36 AM
Quote from: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 01:26 AMYes, doomgaze must be explored by me too.

btw if genres aren't real words aren't real, it's all made up lol

I mean if you look at a word long enough u end up being like ???

anyways yeah u should check out this band Pyramids, they have some sort of connection with Blut Aus Nord but take it in a more decidedly Blackgaze/Post-Metal direction and the vocals are cleaner, the music sort of sounds like pretty industrial metal lol it's good!!

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 03:42 AM
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 03:36 AMbtw if genres aren't real words aren't real, it's all made up lol

I mean if you look at a word long enough u end up being like ???

anyways yeah u should check out this band Pyramids, they have some sort of connection with Blut Aus Nord but take it in a more decidedly Blackgaze/Post-Metal direction and the vocals are cleaner, the music sort of sounds like pretty industrial metal lol it's good!!


I know, but as with things like "screamo," "post-metal" is a misnomer. What we call "post-metal" is actually a collection of genres. I still use the word as it is a good word but I always put it in quotations or make air quotes when I say it.

I will give them a looksee I enjoy industrial as well.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 06:45 AM
Optimally, genres should be like biology's taxonomy.

(https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Taxonomic_ranking.svg.png)

So Carnivora is an order. It contains various families of carnivores, here represented by Felidae, Canidae and Ursidae which again contains (among others) the genuses Felis (cats), Canis (wolves) and Ursus (bears).. which each again contain several species.

So an Ursus horribilis belongs to several taxonomic levels;

The genus Ursus
The family Ursidae
The order Carnivora
The class Mammalia
The phylum Chordata
The kingdom Animalia

So too could Doomsludge be a genre under Post Metal which is under Metal, which is eventually a branch under Rock.

Of course any system would get mucked up, but at least that's something that could potentially make a little sense to me.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 06:47 AM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 06:45 AMOptimally, genres should be like biology's taxonomy.

(https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Taxonomic_ranking.svg.png)

So Carnivora is an order. It contains various families of carnivores, here represented by Felidae, Canidae and Ursidae which again contains (among others) the genuses Felis (cats), Canis (wolves) and Ursus (bears).. which each again contain several species.

So an Ursus horribilis belongs to several taxonomic levels;

The genus Ursus
The family Ursidae
The order Carnivora
The class Mammalia
The phylum Chordata
The kingdom Animalia

So too could Doomsludge be a genre under Post Metal which is under Metal, which is eventually a branch under Rock.

Of course any system would get mucked up, but at least that's something that could potentially make a little sense to me.

Yes, however to use an example... "Atmospheric sludge." Atmospheric sludge came out of sludge which came out of doom which came out of metal. The term "post-metal" took several different genres that already existed within a class and lumped them altogether in a new artificial class. And lumping things together in a new artificial class would be an incorrect use of the system you described.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 06:49 AM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 06:45 AMOptimally, genres should be like biology's taxonomy.

(https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Taxonomic_ranking.svg.png)

So Carnivora is an order. It contains various families of carnivores, here represented by Felidae, Canidae and Ursidae which again contains (among others) the genuses Felis (cats), Canis (wolves) and Ursus (bears).. which each again contain several species.

So an Ursus horribilis belongs to several taxonomic levels;

The genus Ursus
The family Ursidae
The order Carnivora
The class Mammalia
The phylum Chordata
The kingdom Animalia

So too could Doomsludge be a genre under Post Metal which is under Metal, which is eventually a branch under Rock.

Of course any system would get mucked up, but at least that's something that could potentially make a little sense to me.

cough

https://rateyourmusic.com/genres/
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 03:48 PM
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 06:49 AMcough

https://rateyourmusic.com/genres/

Yes, Discord also has or had their own taxonomy that I used for tagging my own collection some 15 years ago. Inside rateyourmusic or discogs, self-contained little systems, it can work just fine.

Problem is in the real world there's no consensus or authority, so who's to say which idea or even definition of a genre is the right one?
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 04:28 PM
Quote from: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 03:48 PMYes, Discord also has or had their own taxonomy that I used for tagging my own collection some 15 years ago. Inside rateyourmusic or discogs, self-contained little systems, it can work just fine.

Problem is in the real world there's no consensus or authority, so who's to say which idea or even definition of a genre is the right one?

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Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jan 29, 2024, 04:32 PM
[Rant Ahead]

Genre descriptions are so asinine to me.

Alt rock, metal and punk communities get so unnecessarily pissy about it. Like, people will tell me that the umbrella of "emo" includes bands as soft as American Football and as hard as Orchid. And yet somehow simultaneously there's absolutely no room under that umbrella for Silverstein or From First to Last or any "mall bands". Those must be strictly filed under post-hardcore, because there's never been any bands that could be described by more than one label in all of history.

And there's so much elitism, particularly on the metal side. Metalheads would mercilessly rip my taste apart if I ever so much as included a metalcore or scene band in a list of favorite bands. It didn't matter that I also loved Slayer and Pantera and Metallica and other "actual" metal bands, if the genre police found my Myspace page and saw that I listened to "poser scene kid metal" like Bring Me the Horizon or The Devil Wears Prada I would be mocked and ostracized.

So all I had was my fellow poser scene kids, and I'm thankful for that.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: tristan_geoff on Jan 29, 2024, 04:39 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jan 29, 2024, 04:32 PM[Rant Ahead]

Genre descriptions are so asinine to me.

Alt rock, metal and punk communities get so unnecessarily pissy about it. Like, people will tell me that the umbrella of "emo" includes bands as soft as American Football and as hard as Orchid. And yet somehow simultaneously there's absolutely no room under that umbrella for Silverstein or From First to Last or any "mall bands". Those must be strictly filed under post-hardcore, because there's never been any bands that could be described by more than one label in all of history.

And there's so much elitism, particularly on the metal side. Metalheads would mercilessly rip my taste apart if I ever so much as included a metalcore or scene band in a list of favorite bands. It didn't matter that I also loved Slayer and Pantera and Metallica and other "actual" metal bands, if the genre police found my Myspace page and saw that I listened to "poser scene kid metal" like Bring Me the Horizon or The Devil Wears Prada I would be mocked and ostracized.

So all I had was my fellow poser scene kids, and I'm thankful for that.

I love genres for the history and sociology aspect, but yaaaa ur so right...

those circles especially are so militant about getting their words right it's honestly so restrictive, if genres are supposed to be a jumping off point they have filled the pool with concrete.  You'd think that with their attachment to the genre names that they'd be more explorative of them, but nah I find it likely usually that they hold so strongly to the terms bc they only listen to like butt Hardcore 3-chord bands (in punk circles) and the same 3 metal genres that have existed since the 80s (in case of metalheads).  Like, terms are malleable, and esp in the case of post-hardcore I can back up with a list of over 300/400 bands that says post-hardcore has been thru many many variations bc newsflash lol genres develop and change over time.  Not even just that, but the fact that the old waves influence the new ones means anyone that denies things fit in certain genres is being ignorant of the history, and ridiculous to boot.  Like I said, they r made up words lol, ppl get too angry over it just enjoy the frickin tunes  8)
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Guybrush on Jan 29, 2024, 04:47 PM
I've no love for genre police either, especially not for the purposes of gatekeeping. The music actually exists. The genre we use to describe it is just an arbitrary construct.

It reminds me of comic book nerds discussing which superheroes would win 1 on 1 fights. I mean.. it's all made up, so a toddler could kill Superman. It depends on whatever make believe you go with 🤷
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 07:58 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jan 29, 2024, 04:32 PM[Rant Ahead]

Genre descriptions are so asinine to me.

Alt rock, metal and punk communities get so unnecessarily pissy about it. Like, people will tell me that the umbrella of "emo" includes bands as soft as American Football and as hard as Orchid. And yet somehow simultaneously there's absolutely no room under that umbrella for Silverstein or From First to Last or any "mall bands". Those must be strictly filed under post-hardcore, because there's never been any bands that could be described by more than one label in all of history.

And there's so much elitism, particularly on the metal side. Metalheads would mercilessly rip my taste apart if I ever so much as included a metalcore or scene band in a list of favorite bands. It didn't matter that I also loved Slayer and Pantera and Metallica and other "actual" metal bands, if the genre police found my Myspace page and saw that I listened to "poser scene kid metal" like Bring Me the Horizon or The Devil Wears Prada I would be mocked and ostracized.

So all I had was my fellow poser scene kids, and I'm thankful for that.

I usually try not to get angry at these things but today I am getting angry at these things.

I'm just going to go ahead and continue using the correct and original definitions of the genres and if you become personally offended at the fact that my OCD brain needs to do everything the correct way you can just get over it.

You just called me "pissy" in a state of being "pissy" by the way. I assure you I am not "pissy" I just know what the correct usage of genres are. The emo people are not necessarily "pissy" they just know what the correct usage of the genres are.

In a normal setting if you were to use the term "post-metal" I would say nothing, but we were discussing why I put "post-metal" in quotations so I explained why I put "post-metal" in quotations. "Ooohh, he does things the correct way, he probably thinks he's so much smarter and better, I'm mad."

If you want to do things the lazy imprecise way that is acceptable, but do not get angry at people who like proper order.

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: grindy on Jan 29, 2024, 08:42 PM
Quote from: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 07:58 PMI usually try not to get angry at these things but today I am getting angry at these things.

I'm just going to go ahead and continue using the correct and original definitions of the genres and if you become personally offended at the fact that my OCD brain needs to do everything the correct way you can just get over it.

You just called me "pissy" in a state of being "pissy" by the way. I assure you I am not "pissy" I just know what the correct usage of genres are. The emo people are not necessarily "pissy" they just know what the correct usage of the genres are.

In a normal setting if you were to use the term "post-metal" I would say nothing, but we were discussing why I put "post-metal" in quotations so I explained why I put "post-metal" in quotations. "Ooohh, he does things the correct way, he probably thinks he's so much smarter and better, I'm mad."

If you want to do things the lazy imprecise way that is acceptable, but do not get angry at people who like proper order.



She wasn't talking about you, like, at all. Just generally about people doing too much gatekeeping about genres which you didn't at all do here.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: grindy on Jan 29, 2024, 08:44 PM
As for my take, I think genre descriptions are quite useful to be able to talk about music and to know what to expect even before listening to something.
Totally agree though, that people shouldn't be too strict about them, it's all a continuum.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 08:54 PM
Quote from: grindy on Jan 29, 2024, 08:42 PMShe wasn't talking about you, like, at all. Just generally about people doing too much gatekeeping about genres which you didn't at all do here.

I had just got done being the genre police then she called the genre police "pissy." I was anticipating the next post being "I wasn't talking about you." She was discussing the genre police and I am a member of the genre police. She may not have been deliberately talking about me but she was talking about me.

I'm calmed down now it's fine. I can debate ideas without getting emotional but when people start calling me names I get testy.

When you see a behaviour you do not like and decide to make a comment, you can't just make this comment without realizing the person exhibiting this behaviour is going to understand you are talking about them.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Jan 29, 2024, 09:55 PM
Quote from: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 08:54 PMI had just got done being the genre police then she called the genre police "pissy." I was anticipating the next post being "I wasn't talking about you." She was discussing the genre police and I am a member of the genre police. She may not have been deliberately talking about me but she was talking about me.

I'm calmed down now it's fine. I can debate ideas without getting emotional but when people start calling me names I get testy.

When you see a behaviour you do not like and decide to make a comment, you can't just make this comment without realizing the person exhibiting this behaviour is going to understand you are talking about them.

I was not talking about you. I apologize if my wording made you feel insulted, I meant to refer strictly to the genre elitists I encountered in my teens and twenties, whose behavior I would describe as pissy. If you don't do things like attacking others for listening to "fake emo" then I am not talking about you and you are absolutely cool with me. Again, I am very sorry you were hurt by my post; I wanted to specifically call out the people who acted like assholes or gatekeepers about genre categories, calling out you or any other people who are more strict on genre but clearly not those things was not my intention.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 09:57 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jan 29, 2024, 09:55 PMI was not talking about you. I apologize if my wording made you feel insulted, I meant to refer strictly to the genre elitists I encountered in my teens and twenties, whose behavior I would describe as pissy. If you don't do things like attacking others for listening to "fake emo" then I am not talking about you and you are absolutely cool with me. Again, I am very sorry you were hurt by my post; I wanted to specifically call out the people who acted like assholes or gatekeepers about genre categories, calling out you or any other people who are more strict on genre but clearly not those things was not my intention.

It's fine. I was going to say forgiven but I don't need to say forgiven nobody needs to be sorry, it's just a misunderstanding. I'm sorry I had an outburst at you as well. I get a lot of flack for being precise and proper and it gets under my skin.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: robhr on Jan 29, 2024, 09:57 PM
Oh I said nobody needs to be sorry then I said sorry, oops.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: grindy on Feb 24, 2024, 05:11 PM
Tasty tech death with juicy bass.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Mar 13, 2024, 11:01 AM
Saw Mr Bungle last night. Great little workout jumping around in the pit.  :laughing:

Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: FETCHER. on Mar 13, 2024, 01:08 PM
Quote from: Meatwad on Mar 13, 2024, 11:01 AMSaw Mr Bungle last night. Great little workout jumping around in the pit.  :laughing:



I'm sure they're at festival I'm going to in June. I haven't listened to any of their stuff but I might need to!

I'm listening to machine head for the first time in prep for going as well. All of my friends listen to them so I'll be tagging along. I've been pleasantly surprised by their less heavy albums. So far I've went through The Burning Red, Supercharger and Through the Ashes of Empires.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Mar 13, 2024, 02:16 PM
Quote from: FETCHER. on Mar 13, 2024, 01:08 PMI'm sure they're at festival I'm going to in June. I haven't listened to any of their stuff but I might need to!

I'm listening to machine head for the first time in prep for going as well. All of my friends listen to them so I'll be tagging along. I've been pleasantly surprised by their less heavy albums. So far I've went through The Burning Red, Supercharger and Through the Ashes of Empires.

I love me some Machine Head. They were so influential on a lot of the early-mid-2000s NWOAHM/Headbangers Ball kinda bands that impacted me as a teenager.

And as for Mr. Bungle, they're a pretty hit or miss band for me but their first album is my favorite and also the most "metal". I respect them a lot on an artistic level even though I don't really listen to them very much. Plus they were really influential on Korn and Slipknot, who I adore.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: FETCHER. on Mar 13, 2024, 03:10 PM
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 13, 2024, 02:16 PMI love me some Machine Head. They were so influential on a lot of the early-mid-2000s NWOAHM/Headbangers Ball kinda bands that impacted me as a teenager.

And as for Mr. Bungle, they're a pretty hit or miss band for me but their first album is my favorite and also the most "metal". I respect them a lot on an artistic level even though I don't really listen to them very much. Plus they were really influential on Korn and Slipknot, who I adore.

Kristoffer absolutely loves MH too! He said the rise and fall of them at the time was crazy, they could have been so much more and were on track for crazy heights but they fucked it through drugs? Not sure if I'm getting bands mixed up 😅. But he did say they had one of the best comeback albums of all time. That's why I listened to through the ashes earlier today.

I'll listen to their first album first then, I'm loving Korn just now and slowly listening to more and more slipknot so I'll see how the first goes. Thank you 😊
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Lexi Darling on Mar 13, 2024, 05:44 PM
Quote from: FETCHER. on Mar 13, 2024, 03:10 PMKristoffer absolutely loves MH too! He said the rise and fall of them at the time was crazy, they could have been so much more and were on track for crazy heights but they fucked it through drugs? Not sure if I'm getting bands mixed up 😅. But he did say they had one of the best comeback albums of all time. That's why I listened to through the ashes earlier today.

I'll listen to their first album first then, I'm loving Korn just now and slowly listening to more and more slipknot so I'll see how the first goes. Thank you 😊

Awesome! Korn have been a mainstay in my listening since I first got into them in 1999, they got me through some tough times. Their first album is my favorite, and I saw them play that entire album front to back on the 20th anniversary tour. Crazy to think that was already a decade ago.

It's so wonderful that you can share in the love of heavy music with your partner! In some ways I kinda wish Aaron shared more musical common ground with me, he only really listens to the most mainstream top 40 stuff these days, though I know he had a short goth/industrial phase in the early 2000s.

We did go to see Fall Out Boy at Wrigley Field last year though, it was his first rock show at age 37 and it was a lovely night we got to share.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Mar 14, 2024, 12:54 PM
Quote from: FETCHER. on Mar 13, 2024, 01:08 PMI'm sure they're at festival I'm going to in June. I haven't listened to any of their stuff but I might need to!

I'm listening to machine head for the first time in prep for going as well. All of my friends listen to them so I'll be tagging along. I've been pleasantly surprised by their less heavy albums. So far I've went through The Burning Red, Supercharger and Through the Ashes of Empires.

We had Machine Head and Fear Factory come through the city 5 days ago too so its all happening in our neck of the woods. Didn't go as I had to visit my parents but I would have definitely picked up a ticket if I was around at the time.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Mar 14, 2024, 01:06 PM
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 13, 2024, 02:16 PMI love me some Machine Head. They were so influential on a lot of the early-mid-2000s NWOAHM/Headbangers Ball kinda bands that impacted me as a teenager.

And as for Mr. Bungle, they're a pretty hit or miss band for me but their first album is my favorite and also the most "metal". I respect them a lot on an artistic level even though I don't really listen to them very much. Plus they were really influential on Korn and Slipknot, who I adore.

Enjoyed the evening but Bungle probably played 1 or 2 too many covers. About 5 or 6 covers in the set all up with only Sepulturas Territory being the one I really got into. That was great. I get thats what they do, but I was hoping to hear stuff off of California like None of Them Knew They Were Robots but they didn't play a single song off of that album. They did bust out a Fantomas song which was nice.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: FETCHER. on Mar 14, 2024, 11:44 PM
Quote from: Meatwad on Mar 14, 2024, 12:54 PMWe had Machine Head and Fear Factory come through the city 5 days ago too so its all happening in our neck of the woods. Didn't go as I had to visit my parents but I would have definitely picked up a ticket if I was around at the time.

Fear factory are coming as well... I'm quite excited but dreading the clashes.

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Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Meatwad on Mar 15, 2024, 01:46 AM
Quote from: FETCHER. on Mar 14, 2024, 11:44 PMFear factory are coming as well... I'm quite excited but dreading the clashes.

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Yeah plenty of good stuff in all of that. Have fun.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: FETCHER. on Mar 15, 2024, 12:11 PM
I'd also just like to mention Bleed from
Within as an up n coming band from Glasgow! They're touring with slipknot at the end of this year and are worth a listen if any of you haven't before.
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Oriphiel on Mar 21, 2024, 09:40 PM
Title: Re: The Metal Thread
Post by: Oriphiel on Mar 23, 2024, 08:02 AM
I miss Batlord =(