Oct 7

[DJChameleon]

I think it's important to be aware of these things, but I also think it's important to protect oneself, especially from getting depressed over things that we have miniscule or no control over.

It sounds like your friend has a problem with doomscrolling. My wife has too (and is aware). As I'm not on Facebook, I mostly just see footage published on online news sites. I think that's enough..

The Guardian Science Weekly recently had an episode called How to stop doomscrolling and reclaim your brain.

Well she is half Palestinian and 1/4 Mexican and 1/4 some Indigenous.

So it makes sense why she would post about it so much. She's also an empath and maybe thinks by doing this on social media it is helping? Idk.

[jadis]

It's worse on social media actually seeing the footage of dead babies and seeing the blood and gore surrounding children. I have this one friend that posts those type of images non stop. When I accidentally autoplay into her IG stories. I have to hurry up and tap through it all because she has been posting this imagery non stop daily since Oct. 7th.

Since Oct 7? Did she post any of the Hamas snuff they shared on that day? 

[jadis]

What if we gave the people of Gaza casinos?

Gambling is a good drug but no match for the stuff they're frying their brains with

[degrassi.knoll]

Gambling is a good drug but no match for the stuff they're frying their brains with

I'm just saying it'd be a nice little gesture.

[DJChameleon]

Since Oct 7? Did she post any of the Hamas snuff they shared on that day? 

Nope. At least I don't think so. I skip through everything she posts so I don't look into it long enough to see what side she's posting from but at the end of the day does it even fucking matter? People are dying in mass numbers. What side they are on doesn't matter civilian casaulities are way too fucking high.

[jadis]

It matters on a thousand different levels. This brutal, horrific and tragic war started with jihadists butchering Israeli civilians, with supporters of the "Palestinian cause" the world over ecstatic.

Israel's military response is aimed at eradicating a jihadist group that went into unprecedented efforts to hide behind civilian population. There's a huge difference between a military that's willing to accept civilian casualties to eliminate terrorists and terrorists whose stated goal (reiterated on numerous occasions during this war) is to eliminate Israel.

One of the astonishing features of the "Palestinian cause" is the unwillingness to concede they have an active part in their predicament. Either by them or their supporters. Every time it begins with the righteous fervor of "resistance" and then shifts into pure victimhood. Zero reflection on the causal link between the two. 

The images coming out of Gaza are horrifying. But wallowing in pure victimhood will only assure another round of this.

[jadis]

I'm just saying it'd be a nice little gesture.

I'll pass it on to my contacts in the IDF (students in the reserves)

[degrassi.knoll]

It worked for the US and our lil territory and treaties troubles

[jadis]

Trouble is, my best contact is doing reserve service on the Lebanese border. Maybe he can open a couple of whore houses for the Hezbollah boys?

[degrassi.knoll]

Potato, potato

[jadis]

Lol apparently the casino solution had been tried already in the West Bank... and it worked for a couple of years until it didn't (once Arafat decided he had enough "peace talks" at Camp David and more or less called the second intifada) 

A brief summary
https://greenolivetours.com/the-tale-of-jerichos-oasis-casino/

And the longer article
https://scholarship.richmond.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1007&context=global

This article focuses on the Oasis Casino -the largest private investment project to be undertaken in the Palestinian territories and the centerpiece of the hoped-for economic revitalization of this area -to provide an understanding of why economic development as it occurred during the first seven years of the peace process will not lead to a lasting peace.

So a great point, touché. Buuuuuut if you read why Arafat decided to blow up the Camp David talks (basically to avoid compromising on a state comprising WB and Gaza, which would have foreclosed "the right of return" i.e. the Palestinian claim on all of Israel) then my point that they prefer getting fucked up on stronger stuff still stands...

[Mindy]

This brutal, horrific and tragic war started with jihadists butchering Israeli civilians,

evil israelis have been terrorizing innocent Palestinians for years in the process of stealing their land

[Guybrush]

Israel's response has been cruel and way out of proportion.

As you may know, South Africa has accused Israel of genocide and the International Court of Justice judged on the case on Jan 26. Anyone can download and read the court document from their site.

Some interesting quotes from it:

"The Court notes that the military operation being conducted by Israel following the attack of 7 October 2023 has resulted in a large number of deaths and injuries, as well as the massive destruction of homes, the forcible displacement of the vast majority of the population, and extensive damage to civilian infrastructure. While figures relating to the Gaza Strip cannot be independently verified, recent information indicates that 25,700 Palestinians have been killed, over 63,000 injuries have been reported, over 360,000 housing units have been destroyed or partially damaged and approximately 1.7 million persons have been internally displaced (see United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel reported impact, Day 109 (24 Jan. 2024))."

And:

"The Court takes note, in this regard, of the statement made by the United Nations Under-
Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, Mr Martin Griffiths, on 5 January 2024:

Gaza has become a place of death and despair.

. . . Families are sleeping in the open as temperatures plummet. Areas where civilians were told to relocate for their safety have come under bombardment. Medical facilities are under relentless attack. The few hospitals that are partially functional are overwhelmed with trauma cases, critically short of all supplies, and inundated by desperate people seeking safety. A public health disaster is unfolding. Infectious diseases are spreading in overcrowded shelters as sewers spill over. Some 180 Palestinian women are giving birth daily amidst this chaos. People are facing the highest levels of food insecurity ever recorded. Famine is around the corner.

For children in particular, the past 12 weeks have been traumatic: No food. No
water. No school. Nothing but the terrifying sounds of war, day in and day out. Gaza has simply become uninhabitable. Its people are witnessing daily threats to their very existence — while the world watches on." (OCHA, "UN relief chief: The war in Gaza must end", Statement by Martin Griffiths, Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, 5 Jan. 2024.)",

"Following a mission to North Gaza, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported that, as of 21 December 2023:

"An unprecedented 93% of the population in Gaza is facing crisis levels of hunger, with insufficient food and high levels of malnutrition. At least 1 in 4 households are facing 'catastrophic conditions': experiencing an extreme lack of food and starvation and having resorted to selling off their possessions and other extreme measures to afford a simple meal. Starvation, destitution and death are evident." (WHO, "Lethal combination of hunger and disease to lead to more deaths in Gaza", 21 Dec. 2023; see  also World Food Programme, "Gaza on the brink as one in four people face extreme hunger", 20 Dec. 2023.)"

I can provide more quotes because this document goes on and on.

The Israeli party did not successfully defend their case and the Court has ordered the Israeli government a rather long list of things like to stop killing Palestinians, persecute incitements to genocide and to provide humanitarian aid to civilians in Gaza.

[jadis]

evil israelis have been terrorizing innocent Palestinians for years in the process of stealing their land

Israel's response has been cruel and way out of proportion.

As you may know, South Africa has accused Israel of genocide and the International Court of Justice judged on the case on Jan 26. Anyone can download and read the court document from their site.

Some interesting quotes from it:

"The Court notes that the military operation being conducted by Israel following the attack of 7 October 2023 has resulted in a large number of deaths and injuries, as well as the massive destruction of homes, the forcible displacement of the vast majority of the population, and extensive damage to civilian infrastructure. While figures relating to the Gaza Strip cannot be independently verified, recent information indicates that 25,700 Palestinians have been killed, over 63,000 injuries have been reported, over 360,000 housing units have been destroyed or partially damaged and approximately 1.7 million persons have been internally displaced (see United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel reported impact, Day 109 (24 Jan. 2024))."

And:

"The Court takes note, in this regard, of the statement made by the United Nations Under-
Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, Mr Martin Griffiths, on 5 January 2024:

Gaza has become a place of death and despair.

. . . Families are sleeping in the open as temperatures plummet. Areas where civilians were told to relocate for their safety have come under bombardment. Medical facilities are under relentless attack. The few hospitals that are partially functional are overwhelmed with trauma cases, critically short of all supplies, and inundated by desperate people seeking safety. A public health disaster is unfolding. Infectious diseases are spreading in overcrowded shelters as sewers spill over. Some 180 Palestinian women are giving birth daily amidst this chaos. People are facing the highest levels of food insecurity ever recorded. Famine is around the corner.

For children in particular, the past 12 weeks have been traumatic: No food. No
water. No school. Nothing but the terrifying sounds of war, day in and day out. Gaza has simply become uninhabitable. Its people are witnessing daily threats to their very existence — while the world watches on." (OCHA, "UN relief chief: The war in Gaza must end", Statement by Martin Griffiths, Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, 5 Jan. 2024.)",

"Following a mission to North Gaza, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported that, as of 21 December 2023:

"An unprecedented 93% of the population in Gaza is facing crisis levels of hunger, with insufficient food and high levels of malnutrition. At least 1 in 4 households are facing 'catastrophic conditions': experiencing an extreme lack of food and starvation and having resorted to selling off their possessions and other extreme measures to afford a simple meal. Starvation, destitution and death are evident." (WHO, "Lethal combination of hunger and disease to lead to more deaths in Gaza", 21 Dec. 2023; see  also World Food Programme, "Gaza on the brink as one in four people face extreme hunger", 20 Dec. 2023.)"

I can provide more quotes because this document goes on and on.

The Israeli party did not successfully defend their case and the Court has ordered the Israeli government a rather long list of things like to stop killing Palestinians, persecute incitements to genocide and to provide humanitarian aid to civilians in Gaza.

[DJChameleon]

It matters on a thousand different levels. This brutal, horrific and tragic war started with jihadists butchering Israeli civilians, with supporters of the "Palestinian cause" the world over ecstatic.

As long as it's eye for an eye you are cool with it.

Yeah slaughter all the women and children that have nothing to do with a terrorist organization. Basically fuck them they shouldn't have been born or lived in that area.