Troll heart made a post mentioning a couple and I said a while back people starting sentences with 'I feel like' is very annoying so I thought it would be a good idea for a thread for those of us who like to moan about things that aren't important.
Some of mine.
- Make it make sense
- I was today years old when
- Things 'hitting different'
- I'm here for it
- Why aren't we talking about the fact that
Any more? 8)
"I'm just meming" instead of just joking.
Any reference to any online memes like zombie apocalypse or Florida man etc should earn somebody a hard punch square in the face. I really hate online culture and meme humor.
People - probably only Irish, I don't know - asking "Do you get me?" after each sentence, as if somehow you don't have sufficient brain power to follow what they're talking about.
lol lots of people say that here tbh.
People counting down the 'sleeps' until a big event. Usually Christmas. There was even a song about it.
I assume the intention is to make it seem like the event is closer than it seems, by replacing the number of days with a mundane task you do once a day like sleeping, but it just sounds ridiculous.
Whenever I see a Buzzfeed headline it's worded in a way that makes my skin crawl
Quote from: jadis on Apr 10, 2023, 10:06 PMWhenever I see a Buzzfeed headline it's worded in a way that makes my skin crawl
I know exactly what you mean. My last one in the op is like something they'd say.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 10, 2023, 09:49 PMPeople counting down the 'sleeps' until a big event. Usually Christmas. There was even a song about it.
I assume the intention is to make it seem like the event is closer than it seems, by replacing the number of days with a mundane task you do once a day like sleeping, but it just sounds ridiculous.
I have never heard that phrase before, but I already find it annoying.
Something that annoys the living shit out of me is people who say "jive" when they mean "jibe".
"Fuck around and find out"
Or any other vaguely ebonic phrase that causes white libs to put on a blaccent for only part of their sentence, when generally they sound as white as wet birdshit.
Never heard of that sleeps thing, but yeah, I'm annoyed with it already.
"Rock up (somewhere)". How exactly do you rock up? Are you supposed to arrive in leather with your hair long and with a Strat slung over your shoulder? What a stupid expression. Particularly seems to be used by older people as if they're trying to recapture their youth.
Misuse of the word literally is one that bugs me.
Quote from: robhr on Apr 11, 2023, 03:21 AMMisuse of the word literally is one that bugs me.
That one bugs me also.
And someone saying "I could care less" when what they're trying to say is that they couldn't care less.
An annoying combination for me are the people who say, "It is what it is" and then do a little pause and nod, as if they have made a profound assessment of the situation.
Walk past a kiddies playground in Mexico, and you will hear this all the time from anxious mothers: "Te vas a caer!!" It means "You're going to fall!" and it is used for toddlers taking their first steps, through to ten-year-olds climbing on walls. It's well-intentioned, of course, but if you're a Mexican kid, it must be dispiriting to hear this gloomy prediction every time you want to run or jump. The mums say it so automatically that I sometimes wonder if they're motivated by concern for a child's safety - or is it just an insurance policy so that they can come in with "I warned you" if things go wrong.
Quote from: robhr on Apr 11, 2023, 03:21 AMMisuse of the word literally is one that bugs me.
The literally makes my head explode. :laughing:
Oops!
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Literally is a great one. Boils my piss.
George Carlin- "Everyday Expressions"
I can't stand when people finish what they think is an irrefutable statement with "end of". It seems to primarily be a UK thing, but it's so fucking annoying.
Not only that, but to my knowledge it's not proper English to end a sentence with of. Other than that one. :laughing: But definitely "end of" requires the expected - story, discussion, matter, world, money, patience etc.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 11, 2023, 01:04 PMQuote from: robhr on Apr 11, 2023, 03:21 AMMisuse of the word literally is one that bugs me.
That one bugs me also.
And someone saying "I could care less" when what they're trying to say is that they couldn't care less.
Oh yeah that one for me too.
@TrollheartI had a long argument with an American friend about the Beach Boys song, God Only Knows.
I tried to explain to him that what they mean is, only God knows. As in only he knows the answer. But what the title implies is something different. That God just knows about something but can't do anything about it.
He didn't think it sounded wrong.
Also another one the Americans like is to say, 'everyone can't do that', meaning not everyone can do something. Again you're saying something different to what you're trying to say.
Stop getting English wrong!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 11, 2023, 08:45 PM@Trollheart
I had a long argument with an American friend about the Beach Boys song, God Only Knows.
I tried to explain to him that what they mean is, only God knows. As in only he knows the answer. But what the title implies is something different. That God just knows about something but can't do anything about it.
He didn't think it sounded wrong.
Also another one the Americans like is to say, 'everyone can't do that', meaning not everyone can do something. Again you're saying something different to what you're trying to say.
Stop getting English wrong!
"God only knows" is a long established idiom though, it's not like The Beach Boys came up with it.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 11, 2023, 09:01 PM"God only knows" is an long established idiom though, it's not like The Beach Boys came up with it.
Only God knows who started it I just know that it should be 'only God knows'!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 11, 2023, 09:14 PMOnly God knows who started it I just know that it should be 'only God knows'!
That sounds worse.
Yeah sure we say it here: who did that? God only knows. Will it be raining tomorrow do you think? God only knows. Will Villa stay up? God only knows. I can't get my head around any other meaning for it. So he thinks it means that God knows, but that's all? He can't do anything about it? God only knows about that earthquake but can't do anything to help? That's nuts. Americans, of all people, hold that God is the guy, so how can be not be omnipotent? I've never heard of the other one, but both are ridiculous and make no sense.
Another one they have a problem with, according to my brother, is "your man". I don't know if you use it, but over here we say "your man" to indicate a third party not connected with us, eg "Look at your man over there" or "The state of your man". These Americans (Boston I believe) could not understand. This was, apparently, the conversation.
"What do you mean, my man?"
"Not your man. It's just an expression."
"But whose man is it?"
"Nobody's. It's just something we say."
"But why your man? Is he yours?"
"No of course not."
"Then why say it?"
"We just do."
PAUSE
"But I don't get it. Why is he my man?"
"He's not."
"But you said he was."
"No I didn't."
"Yes you did. You said your man. That makes him my man. But he's not my man, is he?"
Another PAUSE.
"Is he your man?"
Larger, more annoyed PAUSE.
"I need a drink!"
"Maybe your man will buy it for you."
"Shut the fuck up."
and so on.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 11, 2023, 09:49 PMYeah sure we say it here: who did that? God only knows. Will it be raining tomorrow do you think? God only knows. Will Villa stay up? God only knows. I can't get my head around any other meaning for it. So he thinks it means that God knows, but that's all? He can't do anything about it? God only knows about that earthquake but can't do anything to help? That's nuts. Americans, of all people, hold that God is the guy, so how can be not be omnipotent? I've never heard of the other one, but both are ridiculous and make no sense.
No you misunderstood.
'God only knows' implies that God knows but that's all.
If you're trying to say the only person who knows is God, which is what people mean when they use this phrase, then it'd be 'only God knows'.
So the idiom 'God only knows' is stupid and wrong.
!!!
I'm not much of a grammarian but I think the issue here is that you're assuming "only" is being used as an adjective when it's actually being used as an adverb... or something. Think of it as:
God only knows = God alone knows
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 11, 2023, 10:29 PMI'm not much of a grammarian but I think the issue here is that you're assuming "only" is being used as an adjective when it's actually being used as an adverb... or something. Think of it as:
God only knows = God alone knows
It can be read that way but nobody speaks like that. When was the last time someone asked you a question that only applied to you and you replied with, 'me only' rather than 'only me'?
There wouldn't be this issue if they'd have gone with 'only God knows'.
End of!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 11, 2023, 10:38 PMIt can be read that way but nobody speaks like that. When was the last time someone asked you a question that only applied to you and you replied with, 'me only' rather than 'only me'?
There wouldn't be this issue if they'd have gone with 'only God knows'.
End of!
I don't think I'd reply to a question with either of those phrases. But it's a God thing anyway, and everybody knows God gets His own weird grammar, like capitalizing pronouns.
:( fair enough.
When I was a kid I once attempted to correct the Christian kids' grammar by saying it was "He HAS risen" rather than "He IS risen." I thought I was so smart but I also wanted to get back at them for their terrible bagel jokes toward me, lol.
One of my favourites that kind of illustrates that:
American tourist, looking at cottage: "Oh, ain't it quaint?"
Englishman: "You do not say ain't, you say isn't."
American: "Oh. Isn't it quisn't?"
:laughing:
Or there's the travel agent:
"It's not pronounced Maj-orca, it's May-orca."
"Oh. Okay. Then I'd like a holiday in Yune or Yuly please."
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 12, 2023, 02:36 AMOne of my favourites that kind of illustrates that:
American tourist, looking at cottage: "Oh, ain't it quaint?"
Englishman: "You do not say ain't, you say isn't."
American: "Oh. Isn't it quisn't?"
:laughing:
Or there's the travel agent:
"It's not pronounced Maj-orca, it's May-orca."
"Oh. Okay. Then I'd like a holiday in Yune or Yuly please."
*throws tomato*
"I'm a workaholic". Oh, so you're addicted to workahol?
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 12, 2023, 03:30 AM"I'm a workaholic". Oh, so you're addicted to workahol?
Yeah the whole ____aholic thing bugs me.
Damn right! It's alcohol-ic, so at best it should be a workalic, although that does sound like someone who's a little too up the boss, don't it? Chocalic? Eh, even worse. Besides, who isn't addicted to workahol? It's a very serious problem and I'll thank you not to be trivialising it, or I may have to report you to Workaholics Anonymous. Anonymously, of course.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaUnkel/status/1645501810545754112
Quote from: jadis on Apr 12, 2023, 03:06 PMhttps://twitter.com/ChristinaUnkel/status/1645501810545754112
I'm confused.
"Things you love to see" is an annoying thing people say on Twitter. Why pick on this tweet specifically? See the soccerball thread
Quote from: jadis on Apr 12, 2023, 03:12 PM"Things you love to see" is an annoying thing people say on Twitter. Why pick on this tweet specifically? See the soccerball thread
Goddamn, you're going to make me read about sports?
Edit: I just skimmed the last few posts and still have no idea what this is about.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 11, 2023, 11:10 PMWhen I was a kid I once attempted to correct the Christian kids' grammar by saying it was "He HAS risen" rather than "He IS risen." I thought I was so smart but I also wanted to get back at them for their terrible bagel jokes toward me, lol.
Good one!
"He is risen" sounds ugly to me. It seems like the speaker is, for some unclear reason, deliberately rejecting ordinary, correct grammar.
Oddly enough, I am reminded of someone in a completely different context doing something similar: in a uk soap opera, a hard-headed Englishwoman, uncomfortable about being sentimental, tells her friend,
"We is mates". It's as if the deliberately incorrect grammar is a cloak to hide her embarrassment. Maybe that's a UK thing.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 11, 2023, 09:01 PM"God only knows" is a long established idiom though, it's not like The Beach Boys came up with it.
Yeah,
"God only knows" has been around so long that it sounds perfectly natural regardless of any strict grammatical interpretation. And its familiarity is partly what makes Brian Wilson's song so good: he's turning everyday speech into music.
Quote from: robhr on Apr 12, 2023, 03:41 AMQuote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 12, 2023, 03:30 AM"I'm a workaholic". Oh, so you're addicted to workahol?
Yeah the whole ____aholic thing bugs me.
As you'll guess from my username, this is such a widespread formulation that I have no problem with it.
My opinion: I usually like decent grammar, but I try to avoid the trap of knowledge making me too picky - like those people who discover the right way to use
hoi polloi and then call out anyone who says
"the hoi polloi".
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Apr 12, 2023, 03:26 PMI am reminded of someone in a completely different context doing something similar: in a uk soap opera, a hard-headed Englishwoman, uncomfortable about being sentimental, tells her friend, "We is mates". It's as if the deliberately incorrect grammar is a cloak to hide her embarrassment. Maybe that's a UK thing.
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The only interpretation I can put on "He is risen" is that it's supposed to be not an event that happened but an ongoing one, he "has" risen refers to an event that took place and is now over, and the Church wants you to see Jesus as an eternal, omnipresent thing, so they use he "is" risen as a way to say, he will always have risen. He rose today, he rose yesterday, he'll rise tomorrow. But not on Wednesdays; that's his day off.
Yeah it is silly. Another, to pick up on Lisna's "Working class English grammar" thing that annoys me is when they say "sat" when they mean "seated". That guy is sat behind the other one. There I was, sat in the front row. NO! Use seated or sitting. Sat is - I'm not great at the actual grammar terms, but it's some sort of past particle or something, maybe like a quasar or a pulsar or a black hole, (?) something that has taken place. You don't constantly sit; you sit once and it's over till you stand up. So I sat down, and while I was sitting there this happened, not I sat down and while I was sat there this happened.
Grrrr!
Oh, and going back to the Church: "He is Lord, He is Lord, He is risen from the dead and He is Lord. Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess..."
Knees don't bow. It should have been every knee shall bend. Idiots.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 12, 2023, 03:33 PMKnees don't bow. It should have been every knee shall bend. Idiots.
Maybe they have rickets. ;D
Also on the religious front, one that bugs me is "God bless America" (or wherever). People say it all the time, but what does it mean? It reads like a request (i.e. "God, would you please bless America?"), but no one says it like it's a request. It's always said like it's some sort of declaration, but if that's what it's supposed to be, why isn't it "God has blessed America"?
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Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 11, 2023, 09:49 PMAnother one they have a problem with, according to my brother, is "your man". I don't know if you use it, but over here we say "your man" to indicate a third party not connected with us, eg "Look at your man over there" or "The state of your man". These Americans (Boston I believe) could not understand.
There's something about the way
"your man" is used in Ireland that I really like. I've heard it a few times in
The Derry Girls sitcom.
Another phrase I really like from Ireland is something I read in a book by Brian Moore, when a landlord threatens an unruly tenant with eviction,
"You'll be out, Miss Hearne. Bag and baggage." Brilliant!
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 12, 2023, 03:47 PMAlso on the religious front, one that bugs me is "God bless America" (or wherever). People say it all the time, but what does it mean? It reads like a request (i.e. "God, would you please bless America?"), but no one says it like it's a request. It's always said like it's some sort of declaration, but if that's what it's supposed to be, why isn't it "God has blessed America"?
Good one! It also isn't
"God blesses America." In fact, it's actually an unusual bit of grammar called The Subjunctive, which is used to express wishes or hopes, but these days is mainly in old-fashioned set phrases only:
Heaven help us! God save the King.It's used in a few other places, but it's a difficult bit of grammar to notice: you have to look for the S that isn't there on the verb:
Mary ignored the doctor's suggestion that she get more exercise.
Since I don't hear much spoken english (except from the telly), I hope you'll forgive me for venturing into the world of writing.
In text, it annoys me when I read my old posts and see I've written "it's" when it should've been "its". It still happens, but now it's mostly due to autocorrect and not me being an imbecile.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 13, 2023, 12:19 AMSince I don't hear much spoken english (except from the telly), I hope you'll forgive me for venturing into the world of writing.
In text, it annoys me when I read my old posts and see I've written "it's" when it should've been "its". It still happens, but now it's mostly due to autocorrect and not me being an imbecile.
I've been reading your posts for a decade and a half and I can confidently tell you that your written English is better than most Americans.
Oh don't get me started on incorrect use of apostrophes! Then there was the sign which said, and I am not kidding, "entrance at rere". I mean, come on! That's not even a real word! As for God Bless America, I do think it's more "may God bless America", or even a plea to God to bless America. Mind you, we use a shortened version here. When we say goodbye it's normal to say "God bless." We don't say "God bless you" but just "God bless." We also say "Safe home," which I always thought was a rather sweet sentiment.
Agree with Jansz, Tore: if we didn't know you were from Norway you would be taken as a native English speaker no problem. You talk near as good as wot I do, like, ya know wot I mean? Sweet.
Aww, thanks guys 😘 😁
It's funny (okay, maybe not), but when you're not a native English speaker, you kinda have to figure out what sort of English you wanna adopt for your own. In school, we were taught something closer to a proper english. We learned to spell words like colour with a "u" and English pronunciation.
I can still do an English accent and would do so if I was reading Harry Potter to my kids in english, but when I'm just talking, I've adopted some strange American accent. I find it's a little less demanding in terms of articulation :laughing: it comes more naturally to me. This may have to do with me having had a GF from New York years and years ago (she'd moved to The Hague).
I sometimes wonder what people would think if they heard me. Where's that guy from, the Carpathian mountains? 🤔
@Guybrush Did you live in The Hague at some point? Do you also speak Dutch? It's funny that you mentioned it because I have an ex-girlfriend, who I'm still friends with, who is originally from the US but has now lived in The Hague for many years.
Not that I'm as fluent as you are with English, but I've had a similar versioning issue with Spanish. The Spanish I learned in high school was Mexican Spanish / some sort of semi-neutral Latin American Spanish. All the learning materials I've purchased were also this kind of Spanish. The Spanish language school I went to as an adult was run by Colombians, so again Latin American Spanish. But most of the times I've had to actually use Spanish a lot has been in Spain, where people outside of AndalucĂa have a harder time understanding my Latin American pronunciation on top of my heavy US accent. European Spanish pronunciation feels super awkward to me so I end up trying to do some sort of half and half accent that probably sounds ridiculous.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 13, 2023, 01:15 PM@Guybrush Did you live in The Hague at some point? Do you also speak Dutch? It's funny that you mentioned it because I have an ex-girlfriend, who I'm still friends with, who is originally from the US but has now lived in The Hague for many years.
Not that I'm as fluent as you are with English, but I've had a similar versioning issue with Spanish. The Spanish I learned in high school was Mexican Spanish / some sort of semi-neutral Latin American Spanish. All the learning materials I've purchased were also this kind of Spanish. The Spanish language school I went to as an adult was run by Colombians, so again Latin American Spanish. But most of the times I've had to actually use Spanish a lot has been in Spain, where people outside of AndalucĂa have a harder time understanding my Latin American pronunciation on top of my heavy US accent. European Spanish pronunciation feels super awkward to me so I end up trying to do some sort of half and half accent that probably sounds ridiculous.
I never lived there, but I spent quite a bit of time there between like.. 2003 to 2005 or so. My ex-GF's name is Rachel, just on the off-chance that the world can actually be so small.. 🙂
British people saying 'have a good one' instead of 'have a nice day' or whatever
Don't see anything wrong with that to be honest. Ever heard anyone say "Soft day, thank God"?
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 13, 2023, 07:22 PMBritish people saying 'have a good one' instead of 'have a nice day' or whatever
I feel like a lot of Americans say "have a good one" too, including me.
ah I assumed it was a British thing. I can't really explain why I don't like it. I've never heard 'soft day, thank god' but that one sounds kinda funny. Also, a funny thing that this thread made me realise is that I have many more of these linguistical pet peeves in Dutch than in English
I've been known to say "have a good one." Like a lot. I can see it being annoying though, I mean have a good what?
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 13, 2023, 10:58 PMah I assumed it was a British thing. I can't really explain why I don't like it. I've never heard 'soft day, thank god' but that one sounds kinda funny. Also, a funny thing that this thread made me realise is that I have many more of these linguistical pet peeves in Dutch than in English
I wonder if that's similar to something I noticed about myself: I'm only really offended by swear words in English, not in Spanish. It's something I realised when I heard my son explain to his (Mexican) aunt,
"My dad doesn't let me swear in English." It was true - but in Spanish he could say what he liked and I was like,
"Yeah, not my problem!"
Soft day (apparently) is an annoyingly upbeat way of saying, as the rain pisses down, thank God for the rain. Mind you, I never knew anyone who said it, and it was only used in an advertisement for a beer (Harp) but it may be true. It sounds like the kind of thing old people would say in the West of Ireland.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 14, 2023, 05:55 PMSoft day (apparently) is an annoyingly upbeat way of saying, as the rain pisses down, thank God for the rain. Mind you, I never knew anyone who said it, and it was only used in an advertisement for a beer (Harp) but it may be true. It sounds like the kind of thing old people would say in the West of Ireland.
Sounds like it's just a play on "hard day", no?
Could be, but I don't think so. I think the idea is more, rain falling softly, aren't we lucky to have it, praise to God etc. Subtext: God made every type of weather so we don't complain about even the shittiest. Don't know, could be wrong, but that's the impression I get. Nobody here says hard day. We say crap day, awful day, shit day, miserable day etc. I've never heard anyone say hard day. Tough aul day would be the closest.
It's something people write rather than say, but the use of "ppl" drives me nuts. Why do people do this? It's not like "people" is a long word.
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 18, 2023, 12:22 PMIt's something people write rather than say, but the use of "ppl" drives me nuts. Why do people do this? It's not like "people" is a long word.
There are several of those types of abbreviations that look daft to me. Typing "inb4" instead of just typing "before" is another example that makes me laugh.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 18, 2023, 01:01 PMThere are several of those types of abbreviations that look daft to me. Typing "inb4" instead of just typing "before" is another example that makes me laugh.
It's really strange when you consider that most people are using a device that autocompletes words too. If I type "pe", the first word that comes up is "people", so it's literally the same number of taps as "ppl".
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 18, 2023, 12:22 PMIt's something people write rather than say, but the use of "ppl" drives me nuts. Why do people do this? It's not like "people" is a long word.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247492/Curry-lover-shocked-open-takeaway-order-restaurant-receipt-marked-MILD-WHITE-PPL.html
QuoteCurry lover is shocked to open takeaway order from restaurant to find receipt marked 'VERY MILD, WHITE PPL'
Look at the explanation they gave :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2023, 02:53 PMQuote from: Janszoon on Apr 18, 2023, 12:22 PMIt's something people write rather than say, but the use of "ppl" drives me nuts. Why do people do this? It's not like "people" is a long word.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247492/Curry-lover-shocked-open-takeaway-order-restaurant-receipt-marked-MILD-WHITE-PPL.html
QuoteCurry lover is shocked to open takeaway order from restaurant to find receipt marked 'VERY MILD, WHITE PPL'
Look at the explanation they gave :laughing:
They should switch to this: https://www.amazon.com/GINGER-PEOPLE-SAUCE-SWEET-CHILI/dp/B00EKEY7QK?th=1
Fucking Daily Mail want me to turn off my ad blocker! What, the one that, you know, blocks your ads? Fuck off.
So can't read it. What was the explanation given?
While we're on the subject of the world's shortest words, I always go out of my way to write things like please instead of pls or about rather than abt, but you're right: the predictive text on most phones makes it almost harder to write the shorter version. My other sister has an annoying habit of using "de" instead of "the". I mean, it's a completely different non-word, and it has two letters as opposed to three in the actual word! How much longer, really does it take to write "See you in five minutes" rather than cu 5 min"?? How much in a hurry are people today?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 18, 2023, 05:01 PMFucking Daily Mail want me to turn off my ad blocker! What, the one that, you know, blocks your ads? Fuck off.
So can't read it. What was the explanation given?
Owner Ruby Kandasamy said: 'I have investigated and can confirm it a misunderstanding.
'Under white ppl, we don't mean white people, but a white sauce made from milk, single cream, coconut milk and spices we add to our dishes when a curry is requested mild.
'Ppl means milk.
'However, we have decided to change the way we inform the kitchen and will mention "add white ppl" or "with white sauce" to avoid any confusion with our customers.
:laughing:
QuoteWhile we're on the subject of the world's shortest words, I always go out of my way to write things like please instead of pls or about rather than abt, but you're right: the predictive text on most phones makes it almost harder to write the shorter version. My other sister has an annoying habit of using "de" instead of "the". I mean, it's a completely different non-word, and it has two letters as opposed to three in the actual word! How much longer, really does it take to write "See you in five minutes" rather than cu 5 min"?? How much in a hurry are people today?
Isn't dat just a ting de Oirish people do when der onloyn?
Scots do something similar.
What a crazy explanation! Thanks man. How in god's name does sauce become ppl? I smell a rat. Probably in the sauce.
As for "de", no, to be honest, I've never seen anyone else do it. Sure, it's how a lot of Irish people talk - "Pass de butter der ma will ye?" but they don't write it like that. Really odd. Even look at how much you have to go out of your way, as it were, on the phone keypad to type de instead of the..
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 20, 2023, 09:21 PMWhat a crazy explanation! Thanks man. How in god's name does sauce become ppl? I smell a rat. Probably in the sauce.
As for "de", no, to be honest, I've never seen anyone else do it. Sure, it's how a lot of Irish people talk - "Pass de butter der ma will ye?" but they don't write it like that. Really odd. Even look at how much you have to go out of your way, as it were, on the phone keypad to type de instead of the..
They are talking shit. I asked for extra white ppl in my curry and they told me to get out the restaurant.
Scots do that typing shit all the time, it's really annoying.
- Side hustle
- Going forward
"Side hustle" and "going forward" are on my list of annoying sayings, also.
"Touch base with you later" from anyone who isn't a fucking American.
Also I hate "step up to the plate." I know that's baseball term and so I doubt many people who use it have any idea what it means. Tried to make a non-Americanised version popular - step up to the spot (penalty spot in football), which would make far more sense to us - got nowhere.
I hate people.
Touch base is also annoying when it's said by an American tbh
Quote from: Trollheart on May 03, 2023, 02:42 AM"Touch base with you later" from anyone who isn't a fucking American.
That phrase has always sounded odd to me. I'm not an American but I've been living in America for most of my life, so I'm familiar with American sports. Touching base during a baseball game is something that a player always does solo. It's not something that two players from the same team ever do together.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 03, 2023, 11:57 AMThat phrase has always sounded odd to me. I'm not an American but I've been living in America for most of my life, so I'm familiar with American sports. Touching base during a baseball game is something that a player always does solo. It's not something that two players from the same team ever do together.
Are you English? It's been doing my tits in for ages. Please solve the mystery!
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 03, 2023, 12:17 PMAre you English? It's been doing my tits in for ages. Please solve the mystery!
Yes, indeed.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 03, 2023, 12:34 PMYes, indeed.
My brother 🫂
Just two of us on here.
What part you from? 😧 North/South/Midlands? I'm getting Southerner vibes.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 03, 2023, 12:39 PMMy brother 🫂
Just two of us on here.
What part you from? 😧 North/South/Midlands? I'm getting Southerner vibes.
You are correct!
I'm from Hertfordshire county.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 03, 2023, 12:59 PMYou are correct!
I'm from Hertfordshire county.
Nice. Well thanks for enlightening me. I feel better now :)
David Mitchell's "Dear America..." bit is spot-on.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 03, 2023, 12:34 PMQuote from: jimmy jazz on May 03, 2023, 12:17 PMAre you English? It's been doing my tits in for ages. Please solve the mystery!
Yes, indeed.
Whoa, I always figured you were Peruvian or Colombian or something given all the amazing cumbia/chicha related music that you introduced me to!
Quote from: Janszoon on May 03, 2023, 10:15 PMYes, indeed.
Whoa, I always figured you were Peruvian or Colombian or something given all the amazing cumbia/chicha related music that you introduced me to!
I used to work with a lot of people from Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Brazil and El Salvador and I had a Colombian girlfriend and an Ecuadorean girlfriend back then, so I acquired an appreciation for a lot of that music during those years.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 03, 2023, 12:39 PMMy brother 🫂
Just two of us on here.
What part you from? 😧 North/South/Midlands? I'm getting Southerner vibes.
I just realised that
@Lisnaholic is English too.
So me,
@Psy-Fi and
@Lisnaholic are the only English people on here.
The Three Lions 8)
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If we can get Goofle he's a Brit too.
Quote from: Trollheart on May 06, 2023, 01:15 PMIf we can get Goofle he's a Brit too.
I miss The Goof.
I don't think he will be joining sadly.
Why? Do you know something we don't? Hope he's okay. I liked him a lot.
Quote from: Trollheart on May 06, 2023, 03:27 PMWhy? Do you know something we don't? Hope he's okay. I liked him a lot.
I'm sure he's fine. Pretty sure he's just living his life. I spoke to him a while back and he had similar frustrations with MB as many of us did so I can't see him foruming again.
Oh well that's good that he's ok. Maybe he'll check us out at some point but fair enough if he doesn't want to. He would be very welcome though.
- 'Receipts'
Example here - https://twitter.com/Emmmyalluu/status/1657048867769122818
"Clapping back" is one I've noticed being used in the US media recently.
I guess the words "reply" and "respond" aren't hip enough now.
@Guybrush @Trollheart can we rename the reply button to the 'clap back' button?
:laughing: :laughing:
I'm so glad I can't use Twitter anymore. Seems like the trendy slang on there changed like every week.
People were always like "L + Ratio" but the real L is using Twitter.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 13, 2023, 05:26 PMI'm so glad I can't use Twitter anymore. Seems like the trendy slang on there changed like every week.
People were always like "L + Ratio" but the real L is using Twitter.
I do use Twitter a lot. L for me tbh.
Its become way worse since Gen Z got old enough to use it and infested it. I was saying to
@Qwerty Sanchez, if you're under the age of 30 you should not be allowed on the Internet.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 13, 2023, 06:03 PMI do use Twitter a lot. L for me tbh.
Its become way worse since Gen Z got old enough to use it and infested it. I was saying to @Qwerty Sanchez, if you're under the age of 30 you should not be allowed on the Internet.
I do enjoy people who weren't around for something trying to tell everyone else all about it on Twitter. Seems like a daily occurrence, especially in sports circles.
"Cautiously optimistic"
I prefer my optimism to be reckless.
I don't use it myself, but my fiance has exposed me to a lot of Tik Tok content, and I absolutely hate all the terms people use to get around censorship on that site, like "seggs" and "unalive". I guess on Tik Tok people have no other choice, but I still hate it. I value politeness on the whole but if we have to dance around saying stuff like "they had sex" or "that's social suicide" it just feels unnecessarily sanitized and even a bit dystopian.
^ I didn't understand "seggs" until you explained it Mrs. Waffles, so thanks for that. To be honest I quite like it. Still, I'll probably only ever see it in this one post of yours, so I won't be exposed to it often enough to develop a real dislike.
Frequency of exposure, as all the grumblers here must know, is an essential requirement if you want to build up a really good, festering hatred of something.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 16, 2023, 03:14 PM"Cautiously optimistic"
Quote from: Janszoon on May 16, 2023, 03:21 PMI prefer my optimism to be reckless.
^ :laughing: Good one, Jans !
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on May 16, 2023, 03:49 PMI don't use it myself, but my fiance has exposed me to a lot of Tik Tok content, and I absolutely hate all the terms people use to get around censorship on that site, like "seggs" and "unalive". I guess on Tik Tok people have no other choice, but I still hate it. I value politeness on the whole but if we have to dance around saying stuff like "they had sex" or "that's social suicide" it just feels unnecessarily sanitized and even a bit dystopian.
I'm never on Tik Tok so I wasn't aware of that, but I really hate eggs so I'm already predisposed to not liking "seggs".
- Not gonna lie
Nobody suggested you would. Why not just post your opinion without it? Just another waste of words.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 17, 2023, 01:40 AM- Not gonna lie
Nobody suggested you would. Why not just post your opinion without it? Just another waste of words.
On a similar front, my old boss, who was one of the most full of shit people I've ever known in my life, would frequently begin sentences with "to be completely honest". Every time she said that, I would think, "because you're usually lying, right?"
Quote from: Janszoon on May 17, 2023, 04:48 AMOn a similar front, my old boss, who was one of the most full of shit people I've ever known in my life, would frequently begin sentences with "to be completely honest". Every time she said that, I would think, "because you're usually lying, right?"
:coldsweat:
Any examples? Reminds me of someone who claimed he'd fought off a shark on holiday once.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 17, 2023, 05:44 PM:coldsweat:
Any examples? Reminds me of someone who claimed he'd fought off a shark on holiday once.
She wasn't a fabulist like that. She was full of shit in the sense that she was disingenuous, manipulative, and passive aggressive.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 17, 2023, 01:40 AM- Not gonna lie
Nobody suggested you would. Why not just post your opinion without it? Just another waste of words.
ngl - i usually say that before i start bullshitting
Quote from: Toy Revolver on May 17, 2023, 08:26 PMngl - i usually say that before i start bullshitting
So before every sentence then.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 17, 2023, 09:22 PMSo before every sentence then.
ngl - all the fucking time
"Weaponized" is another word that has become trendy in the media over the past couple of years.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 19, 2023, 01:10 PM"Weaponized" is another word that has become trendy in the media over the past couple of years.
ngl- i use it a lot
Go, Team English, jimmy jazz! :banana:
Quote from: Psy-Fi on May 13, 2023, 02:33 PM"Clapping back" is one I've noticed being used in the US media recently.
I guess the words "reply" and "respond" aren't hip enough now.
Yep, to me it's a real disservice to the language to replace precise existing words with a phrase which is confusing: clapping back, as I understand it, has nothing to do with clapping. So, yeah, why mess up the language like that when you don't have to?
"Weaponizing" on the other hand seems to me like a useful new word to describe a new political ploy. Surely the media were in need of a new word to describe what Trump's admin were doing to supposedly neutral institutions like the DOJ ?
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Some perfectly decent words to describe the speed of a response are "instantaneously, immediately, rapidly", but apparently these words are no longer adequate to describe our interactions with, for example, AI. Instead, these days, machines are responding "in real time", presumably to distinguish them from things that respond in unreal time.
My house is wired up so that, at the flick of a switch, the lightbulbs come on in real time. Anyone using lightbulbs that come on in unreal time?
Quote from: Lisnaholic on May 28, 2023, 03:38 PMGo, Team English, jimmy jazz! :banana:
Yep, to me it's a real disservice to the language to replace precise existing words with a phrase which is confusing: clapping back, as I understand it, has nothing to do with clapping. So, yeah, why mess up the language like that when you don't have to?
"Weaponizing" on the other hand seems to me like a useful new word to describe a new political ploy. Surely the media were in need of a new word to describe what Trump's admin were doing to supposedly neutral institutions like the DOJ ?
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Some perfectly decent words to describe the speed of a response are "instantaneously, immediately, rapidly", but apparently these words are no longer adequate to describe our interactions with, for example, AI. Instead, these days, machines are responding "in real time", presumably to distinguish them from things that respond in unreal time.
My house is wired up so that, at the flick of a switch, the lightbulbs come on in real time. Anyone using lightbulbs that come on in unreal time?
"Real time" has been around since at least the early 90s I believe. It had a good reason for existing when it was coined, because at that time it was a major accomplishment for anything involving the internet to happen instantly, like it would in the real world. Now it doesn't make as much sense to call out because most things on the internet happen almost instantly.
- Saying things 'with your chest'
- Keeping 'receipts'
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 15, 2023, 09:18 PM- Saying things 'with your chest'
- Keeping 'receipts'
I'm not sure I understand either one of these.
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 15, 2023, 09:31 PMI'm not sure I understand either one of these.
1 - https://twitter.com/heartsforgoogie/status/1649525431685742592?t=lSvvZ5_Quu1obfenfcU1Yw&s=19
2 - https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1676998301508415488?t=N34ntJINsxAVXGCYHoQxaw&s=19
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 15, 2023, 09:31 PMI'm not sure I understand either one of these.
"Receipts" means providing evidence, usually used online to prove that someone has lied or committed a misdeed, or otherwise just proof that they are a bad person. Like posting a text conversation or voicemail where they say racist stuff.
"This dude is a racist, and I have the receipts" would be common phrasing. Basically getting dirt on someone.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 15, 2023, 09:43 PM1 - https://twitter.com/heartsforgoogie/status/1649525431685742592?t=lSvvZ5_Quu1obfenfcU1Yw&s=19
2 - https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1676998301508415488?t=N34ntJINsxAVXGCYHoQxaw&s=19
This is the first time I've heard either of these, so no strong feelings here.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jul 15, 2023, 10:38 PM"Receipts" means providing evidence, usually used online to prove that someone has lied or committed a misdeed, or otherwise just proof that they are a bad person. Like posting a text conversation or voicemail where they say racist stuff.
"This dude is a racist, and I have the receipts" would be common phrasing. Basically getting dirt on someone.
Interesting. I don't think I've ever heard it used in that context.
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 15, 2023, 11:29 PMThis is the first time I've heard either of these, so no strong feelings here.
Interesting. I don't think I've ever heard it used in that context.
I think the thing that makes it more annoying is you see one person say it then it spreads like wildfire and everyone says it.
Another one is 'cooking'.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 15, 2023, 11:50 PMI think the thing that makes it more annoying is you see one person say it then it spreads like wildfire and everyone says it.
Another one is 'cooking'.
You have the receipts, you said that with your whole chest, and I love you for it.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 15, 2023, 11:50 PMI think the thing that makes it more annoying is you see one person say it then it spreads like wildfire and everyone says it.
Another one is 'cooking'.
I'm cooking with gas, baby! 8)
Quote from: Janszoon on Jul 16, 2023, 12:38 AMYou have the receipts, you said that with your whole chest, and I love you for it.
:laughing:
As an outside observer, it's fascinating to watch these colloquialisms originate, for example, on Black Twitter, and then trickle down and/or become over saturated through young quite girls on TikTok
Quote"Receipts" means providing evidence, usually used online to prove that someone has lied or committed a misdeed, or otherwise just proof that they are a bad person. Like posting a text conversation or voicemail where they say racist stuff.
"This dude is a racist, and I have the receipts" would be common phrasing. Basically getting dirt on someone.
Some people really relish snitching lol
This doesn't bug me that much, though I'm surprised that it usually goes by unremarked on: people who put in the word "proverbial" when there isn't a proverb to back it up. This morning I came across it in a real-life adventure book: "the expedition was hanging by a proverbial thread". Didn't the author or editor notice that there isn't a proverb, and that "hanging by a thread" is just a phrase, a metaphor?!
Better, imo, would be the straightforward "hanging by a thread" or, for people who want to dress up their language, "hanging by a metaphorical thread" perhaps.
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Admittedly this isn't some new, annoying expression, but I figure people who come to this thread are in a good position to advise on the following:-
In a cookbook from about 75 years ago, my mum came upon this instruction: "Bake in a very moderate oven." It left me and my siblings wondering about just how moderate a very moderate oven was, and how exactly you fine-tune your oven-dial setting to get that "very moderate" sweet spot.
"lets go brandon" (instead of actually saying "Fuck Joe Biden")
if you want to say fuck joe biden, just say "fuck joe biden" :laughing:
I had an uber driver about a month ago whose car was covered in pro-Trump and anti-Biden stickers. The biggest one, right on the door I entered through, said "F*CK BIDEN AND F*CK YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM". I was absolutely mortified.
I wouldn't put my political opinions out there for the public to see.
My friend's nan had a Brexit poster in her front window after the referendum and all the nonsense happened.
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This one 😯
Quote from: jadis on Jul 16, 2023, 08:16 AMSome people really relish snitching lol
It's more than just snitching it's a way to shut down someone's lame argument by providing evidence that's opposite to what they are saying.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jul 23, 2023, 10:26 PMI had an uber driver about a month ago whose car was covered in pro-Trump and anti-Biden stickers. The biggest one, right on the door I entered through, said "F*CK BIDEN AND F*CK YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM". I was absolutely mortified.
That reminds me of this house that is right at the corner of a busy section that people drive by. They have all this anti-Joe Biden stuff on trees and on the side of their house. The latest stuff is a picture of a tick then next to it is a picture of Joe Biden and the punchline is referring to Joe Biden as a "Luna-tick".
Every time I drive past it, I'm like well this is a good reminder to randomly burn this house down one day. I wouldn't do it personally but wouldn't be sad if it happened.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Jul 23, 2023, 10:26 PMI had an uber driver about a month ago whose car was covered in pro-Trump and anti-Biden stickers. The biggest one, right on the door I entered through, said "F*CK BIDEN AND F*CK YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM". I was absolutely mortified.
That's quite shocking to me: the language used and the clear statement of intolerance to anyone with a different political viewpoint. It's totally crossing a mutual-respect line that should be maintained imo. I kind of hope that his message loses him customers.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 23, 2023, 10:31 PMI wouldn't put my political opinions out there for the public to see.
My friend's nan had a Brexit poster in her front window after the referendum and all the nonsense happened.
^ At least that one was about a single-issue referendum - and it's very normal in the UK to put up a sign in support of your position or candidate at election time - but afaik, no-one would put up a sign in the style of Mrs. Waffles's taxi driver, say "F people who don't vote my way".
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Peer pressure to publicly declare your position: an American friend of mine living in an Albuquerque suburb told me how, at the start of the war against Iraq, in that period of post-9/11 patriotism, loads of his neighbours were hanging out American flags, and he wondered if he should be doing the same as his was one of the few houses with no public statement about supporting the US.
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jul 24, 2023, 04:26 PMPeer pressure to publicly declare your position: an American friend of mine living in an Albuquerque suburb told me how, at the start of the war against Iraq, in that period of post-9/11 patriotism, loads of his neighbours were hanging out American flags, and he wondered if he should be doing the same as his was one of the few houses with no public statement about supporting the US.
I would have hung a flag outside of my place too just to fall in line even if I disagree with the US going to war against Iraq. If I have to live around these people then I would rather not rock the boat. I guess I view it more from the lens of being a black person in America and not wanting to make certain waves. Idk I feel like if I was in your friend's position and I didn't put up a flag, my house would've been burned down or something extreme like that.
Good point about being more cautious about fitting in as a black guy, DJ. This guy was a young blonde friendly professional type who prob got on very well with his neighbours. Unfortunately, although he raised the question, I never learned if he went with a flag or not. (...because although I originally said friend, he was a one-time-work-colleague type friend who I didn't stay in touch with.)
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jul 24, 2023, 04:26 PM^ At least that one was about a single-issue referendum - and it's very normal in the UK to put up a sign in support of your position or candidate at election time - but afaik, no-one would put up a sign in the style of Mrs. Waffles's taxi driver, say "F people who don't vote my way".
Actually in the window of your own house or are you on about on the lampposts and cable boxes and shit like that? Cos I've seen the latter loads of times but never the former until that Brexit poster.
Saying "Unpack" or "unpacking" in place of "discuss" or "discussing."
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 24, 2023, 09:08 PMSaying "Unpack" or "unpacking" in place of "discuss" or "discussing."
Yeah that's a good one.
Seems to have died down a bit now but was seeing it all the time a few years back.
Oh I'm absolutely still using that one
Quote from: jadis on Jul 24, 2023, 09:19 PMOh I'm absolutely still using that one
You said that with your whole chest.
I see a load of this new kid speak on the TV and radio now and it makes me growl a bit so I know I'm becoming a grumpy old cunt 8)
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Jul 24, 2023, 09:08 PMSaying "Unpack" or "unpacking" in place of "discuss" or "discussing."
It originates from the title of the essay Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh in 1988. It's the first piece to speak to the concept of white privilege. Worth a read if you've never.
"Unpacking" is meant to refer to digging deeper than surface level in terms of social constructs and institutionalized -isms, but more importantly, DOING something about it.
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"I have come to see white privilege as invisible package on unearned assets that I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was meant to remain oblivious. Like an invisible knapsack of special provisions, assurances, tools, maps, guides, codebooks, passports, visas, clothes, compass, emergency gear, and blank checks.
"Having come to realize this, I become accountable to change it... [in the interest of equality we must acknowledge these] ...privileges and be willing to give them up."
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Jul 24, 2023, 06:02 PMActually in the window of your own house or are you on about on the lampposts and cable boxes and shit like that? Cos I've seen the latter loads of times but never the former until that Brexit poster.
That surprises me, jimmy jazz! Things must be differrent in UK today.
I was talking about political posters stuck up in the windows of peoples' houses, and, especially at local/general election times, it used to be very common, 50 or so years ago. In my experience, I would say it was about one in 10 houses that would have a small poster, or perhaps "sticker" is a better description, in the corner of their window.
(...and incidentally, that's tidier than the lamp-post option, because the house ones were more likely to come down after the elections. Here in Mexico, at election times, the lamp-posts are posted on, then posted over, then posted over again by competing political enthusiasts, contributing to a tatty street look that lasts for years before getting rained off, ready for the next election. One reason for this: in an attempt to be fair and democratic, political parties are given cash by the state government with which to run their election campaigns. It's yet another example of how a well-intentioned plan can go adrift in the application. )
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jul 25, 2023, 03:22 PMOne reason for this: in an attempt to be fair and democratic, political parties are given cash by the state government with which to run their election campaigns. It's yet another example of how a well-intentioned plan can go adrift in the application. )
Omfg this is great. I wish it was that way in the states so you don't have to rely so heavily on fundraising and pact money that hides dark money.
This is an expression that I don't actually dislike, but judged purely on its merits, it's surely more popular than it deserves to be: "I kid you not!"
The verb of course, is "kid" so I tried swapping it out for some other verbs: I like you not; I eat it not; I saw him not.
So yeah, why does the verb "kid" get special dispensation to be used in a kind of jocular, mock-Elizabethan style? Actually, the more I think about it, the more I lean towards disliking it.
'Entered the chat'.
Just read a thread on Reddit about an opinion on an album and saw three or four posts literally one after the other disagreeing where they named an album then 'has entered the chat'.
Its too much. I don't like this.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Sep 10, 2023, 01:06 AM'Entered the chat'.
Just read a thread on Reddit about an opinion on an album and saw three or four posts literally one after the other disagreeing where they named an album then 'has entered the chat'.
Its too much. I don't like this.
It's internet lingo old man. It isn't that bad imo.
My only problem with hip young people slang is how frequently it changes. Back in my day the trendy new lingo that confused me was stuff like "bae" and "turnt" and "on fleek". Now nobody says those things anymore but I'm so out of touch with The Kids that I don't even know what's replaced them.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 11, 2023, 02:06 AMMy only problem with hip young people slang is how frequently it changes. Back in my day the trendy new lingo that confused me was stuff like "bae" and "turnt" and "on fleek". Now nobody says those things anymore but I'm so out of touch with The Kids that I don't even know what's replaced them.
^ I thought you grew up in America, Mrs. Waffles, but clearly it was in a country where English is not the native language ! ;)
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 11, 2023, 01:22 AMIt's internet lingo old man. It isn't that bad imo.
Yeah but four times in a row, it is annoying. Can't people just use their own words instead of replying with some shitty Internet phrases?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Sep 11, 2023, 02:40 AMYeah but four times in a row, it is annoying. Can't people just use their own words instead of replying with some shitty Internet phrases?
That's reddit culture. They are all so boring and unoriginal there.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 11, 2023, 02:06 AMMy only problem with hip young people slang is how frequently it changes. Back in my day the trendy new lingo that confused me was stuff like "bae" and "turnt" and "on fleek". Now nobody says those things anymore but I'm so out of touch with The Kids that I don't even know what's replaced them.
Lingo changes so quickly because of the internet and memes. Don't try to keep up with the kiddos. I do because I'm just online way too much but it sounds weird coming out of my mouth.
My wife says "it's giving" all the time in public. I know it's more of a gay slang thing but it sounds so cringey to hear it out loud in person.
You might hear "rizz" a lot lately. It's one of the newer ones that I like.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Sep 11, 2023, 02:52 PMThat's reddit culture. They are all so boring and unoriginal there.
Lingo changes so quickly because of the internet and memes. Don't try to keep up with the kiddos. I do because I'm just online way too much but it sounds weird coming out of my mouth.
My wife says "it's giving" all the time in public. I know it's more of a gay slang thing but it sounds so cringey to hear it out loud in person.
You might hear "rizz" a lot lately. It's one of the newer ones that I like.
Yeah a lot of modern youth slang comes from gay and drag communities. I like using some of that, my sister and I talk about "serving cunt" all the time in our text convos, though we definitely say it more than a bit ironically.
I've definitely heard "rizz". From what I understand, it seems kinda like the new version of "swag"?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 10, 2023, 09:49 PMPeople counting down the 'sleeps' until a big event. Usually Christmas. There was even a song about it.
I assume the intention is to make it seem like the event is closer than it seems, by replacing the number of days with a mundane task you do once a day like sleeping, but it just sounds ridiculous.
Just heard this.
Grr.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Sep 11, 2023, 03:03 PMI've definitely heard "rizz". From what I understand, it seems kinda like the new version of "swag"?
Yeah sorry I didn't see this but funny enough Webster's dictionary added rizz to the book this year. It was the word of the year.
Yes it's sort of a new version of swag but it generally just means Charisma like to be able to pull women really or just in general. It doesn't have to be just to hook up culture.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Dec 11, 2023, 10:11 AMYeah sorry I didn't see this but funny enough Webster's dictionary added rizz to the book this year. It was the word of the year.
Yes it's sort of a new version of swag but it generally just means Charisma like to be able to pull women really or just in general. It doesn't have to be just to hook up culture.
Yeah, I heard. I understand them trying to stay current, but to me it just feels like it's the kind of slang that will sound really dated really fast and everyone will stop using unironically within a year or two. Maybe I'm wrong.
But then again I'm the kind of person who still says painfully 90s stuff like "effing with my steez" and "hecka wicked dope" so I'm sure there will be people who are coming of age now who will continue to use words like "rizz" even after they stop being a trendy thing to say.
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Dec 11, 2023, 10:56 AMYeah, I heard. I understand them trying to stay current, but to me it just feels like it's the kind of slang that will sound really dated really fast and everyone will stop using unironically within a year or two. Maybe I'm wrong.
But then again I'm the kind of person who still says painfully 90s stuff like "effing with my steez" and "hecka wicked dope" so I'm sure there will be people who are coming of age now who will continue to use words like "rizz" even after they stop being a trendy thing to say.
I've noticed that I have been dropping the word "dope" quite often lately and I'm not even sure why.
People say pal a lot and I bloody hate it.
Just call me duck for gods sake. 😒
Quote from: Thelonious Monkey on Feb 01, 2024, 01:09 AMPeople say pal a lot and I bloody hate it.
Just call me duck for gods sake. 😒
Jeez pal, relax.
Quote from: Thelonious Monkey on Feb 01, 2024, 01:09 AMPeople say pal a lot and I bloody hate it.
Just call me duck for gods sake. 😒
DUCK.
Quote from: Thelonious Monkey on Feb 01, 2024, 01:09 AMPeople say pal a lot and I bloody hate it.
Just call me duck for gods sake. 😒
Lol you one of those people that say "I'm not your pal,buddy"
Maybe not totally in line with this thread but I hate it when people at work just write me Hi or Hello without outright saying what the fuck they want. Maybe I don't see their message right away, then I have to ask them what they want later on, then I have to wait for their reply... If they just directly said what they needed I would answer them as soon as I could and that'd be it.
Quote from: grindy on Feb 21, 2024, 09:50 AMMaybe not totally in line with this thread but I hate it when people at work just write me Hi or Hello without outright saying what the fuck they want. Maybe I don't see their message right away, then I have to ask them what they want later on, then I have to wait for their reply... If they just directly said what they needed I would answer them as soon as I could and that'd be it.
That reminds me of my old manager. She'd IM me "hey", I'd reply, then she'd forget to ever follow up.
Quote from: Janszoon on Feb 21, 2024, 10:31 AMThat reminds me of my old manager. She'd IM me "hey", I'd reply, then she'd forget to ever follow up.
That sucks. At least my boss communicates properly, but I do have this issue with some other colleagues.
Quote from: grindy on Feb 21, 2024, 10:42 AMThat sucks. At least my boss communicates properly, but I do have this issue with some other colleagues.
Make a grand statement and let everyone in the office know that you don't like it and how they should reply to you so they don't keep doing it over and over again.
Some will take to it while others will continue the pattern but you will have less of them doing it.
Wrong answers only.
Has been annoying me for ages now.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Feb 21, 2024, 02:18 PMMake a grand statement and let everyone in the office know that you don't like it and how they should reply to you so they don't keep doing it over and over again.
Some will take to it while others will continue the pattern but you will have less of them doing it.
I already put this in my automated message in teams but some people manage to ignore it. Plus I work in a huge company and interact with tons of different people, so it would be pretty difficult to tell it to everyone.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 21, 2024, 02:23 PMWrong answers only.
Has been annoying me for ages now.
I love wrong answers only
Quote from: grindy on Feb 21, 2024, 02:25 PMI already put this in my automated message in teams but some people manage to ignore it. Plus I work in a huge company and interact with tons of different people, so it would be pretty difficult to tell it to everyone.
Oh okay, well just copy paste the message to each single person that messages with just "hi" or "hey". It will be more tedious but at least you will interact with the people that are directly messaging you.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Feb 21, 2024, 02:29 PMI love wrong answers only
Oh okay, well just copy paste the message to each single person that messages with just "hi" or "hey". It will be more tedious but at least you will interact with the people that are directly messaging you.
I'd kinda want to do that but I also like not to be a persnickety dick to people so I probably won't. Our German locations already have the reputation of being somewhat overbearing and annoying in the eyes of some international colleagues.
TIL that gen alpha is saying "fax, no printer" instead of just "facts".
It's kind of weird and I feel like it's super cringe.
😂 Ffs
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 07, 2024, 03:09 PMTIL that gen alpha is saying "fax, no printer" instead of just "facts".
It's kind of weird and I feel like it's super cringe.
It makes me cringe when I see people using "cringe" as an adjective.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 07, 2024, 03:46 PMIt makes me cringe when I see people using "cringe" as an adjective.
Elph was a perpetual offender.
Quote from: SGR on Mar 07, 2024, 06:01 PMElph was a perpetual offender.
Elph? Cringe.
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 07, 2024, 03:46 PMIt makes me cringe when I see people using "cringe" as an adjective.
Cringe is a millenial/gen z term you should be used to it by now. It's been going on for a decade now.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Mar 07, 2024, 07:34 PMCringe is a millenial/gen z term you should be used to it by now. It's been going on for a decade now.
I don't care, it's annoying.
Something that bugs me is not what people say, but what they don't say. Many tv commentators, celebrities and politicians are so bubbling over with... that they don't finish one... before they start on the next.
What makes it offensive to me is that I do them the courtesy of paying attention to them but then they don't deliver with a complete idea. And to make matters worse, by implication, they expect us to re-start over again and pay attention to their next sentence, and just ignore the fact that their previous one was left unfinished. :rage:
- Everyone can't do that
When you mean, not everyone can do that.
Once again you are saying the opposite of what you want to say. If everyone can't do it, then you are saying nobody can. But what you mean is that some people can and some people can't. So you should say, not everyone can do it.
>:(
- Fun fact
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Mar 25, 2024, 01:35 PM- Fun fact
:'(
I say that as an ironic joke though. Usually when relaying a fact that is, in all actuality, not particularly fun lol. I can see it being irritating if used completely earnestly though.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 25, 2024, 01:47 PM:'(
I say that as an ironic joke though. Usually when relaying a fact that is, in all actuality, not particularly fun lol. I can see it being irritating if used completely earnestly though.
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No need to be sad. I've probably said something that applies to everyone on here already.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on May 17, 2023, 05:44 PM:coldsweat:
Any examples? Reminds me of someone who claimed he'd fought off a shark on holiday once.
Why would a shark be on holiday?
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Jul 20, 2023, 12:19 AMThis doesn't bug me that much, though I'm surprised that it usually goes by unremarked on: people who put in the word "proverbial" when there isn't a proverb to back it up. This morning I came across it in a real-life adventure book: "the expedition was hanging by a proverbial thread". Didn't the author or editor notice that there isn't a proverb, and that "hanging by a thread" is just a phrase, a metaphor?!
Better, imo, would be the straightforward "hanging by a thread" or, for people who want to dress up their language, "hanging by a metaphorical thread" perhaps.
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Admittedly this isn't some new, annoying expression, but I figure people who come to this thread are in a good position to advise on the following:-
In a cookbook from about 75 years ago, my mum came upon this instruction: "Bake in a very moderate oven." It left me and my siblings wondering about just how moderate a very moderate oven was, and how exactly you fine-tune your oven-dial setting to get that "very moderate" sweet spot.
I also hate people using the word "literal" or "literally" when it's the reverse. "He literally blew his top!" No, he did not, as if he did, he would be dead! "I literally hang around the place" as Frasier pointed out, no you do not, unless you're a bat.
As to the moderate oven, well, one would assume that would definitely not be an oven that voted for Trump!
"I'm your new boss clean the floors 25 hours a day"
Quote from: Janszoon on Mar 07, 2024, 03:46 PMIt makes me cringe when I see people using "cringe" as an adjective.
this post is cringe
Also people saying they'll give 110 (or more) percent. Not possible. 100 percent is by definition the most anyone can give of anything.
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 26, 2024, 05:12 PMAlso people saying they'll give 110 (or more) percent. Not possible. 100 percent is by definition the most anyone can give of anything.
there are unicativated parts of ur a spinsal cortez that will evnvolepoe ur emotiaonls responses timese ms to make eit psoibble to be a GORD
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Mar 26, 2024, 05:38 PMthere are unicativated parts of ur a spinsal cortez that will evnvolepoe ur emotiaonls responses timese ms to make eit psoibble to be a GORD
Are you having a stroke? I don't care what the brain does, the simple mathematical fact is that it is impossible to have, or give, more than 100% of anything. Were we to use our brains to their fullest extent, we could still only use 100 percent, because 100 percent = the maximum. There's just no argument there.
On another subject, "I'm loving [insert action/feeling etc here]" This is supposed to be a finite action: "I love this/you/it etc" How did it become a constant in motion thing? You ever said to your SO "Darling I'm so loving you?" GAAAHHH! I blame MacDonalds. And also, what exactly does "Always Coca-Cola" mean? You could add any words and make it bad: "Things that I hate: always Coca-Cola." Or maybe "Always Coca-Cola that's too expensive" etc. Bloody half-sentences I don't know why - - -
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 26, 2024, 06:53 PMAre you having a stroke? I don't care what the brain does, the simple mathematical fact is that it is impossible to have, or give, more than 100% of anything. Were we to use our brains to their fullest extent, we could still only use 100 percent, because 100 percent = the maximum. There's just no argument there.
On another subject, "I'm loving [insert action/feeling etc here]" This is supposed to be a finite action: "I love this/you/it etc" How did it become a constant in motion thing? You ever said to your SO "Darling I'm so loving you?" GAAAHHH! I blame MacDonalds. And also, what exactly does "Always Coca-Cola" mean? You could add any words and make it bad: "Things that I hate: always Coca-Cola." Or maybe "Always Coca-Cola that's too expensive" etc. Bloody half-sentences I don't know why - - -
Lol wdym? No idea what this second part means, r u habing stroke?
But yes the thing ppl say abt ur brain not being able to go to 100% usually is bs... we use most of our brain daily
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Mar 27, 2024, 05:16 AMLol wdym? No idea what this second part means, r u habing stroke?
But yes the thing ppl say abt ur brain not being able to go to 100% usually is bs... we use most of our brain daily
Um. No, you are indeed incorrect.
@Trollheart Those phrases are usually used slightly differently. "I'm loving" is usually used like, "I'm loving this movie", i.e. you say it while the movie is going and you are still in the state of loving it. The movie could get worse over time and you wouldn't be loving it anymore, so it's less of a definitive statement than "I love this movie".
For stuff where it's reasonable to assume that my love will be a more permanent or definite thing, I wouldn't usually use it, like it definitely would be bit weird to say "I'm loving my darling husband Aaron", haha.
So they do have slightly different purposes, at least in my mind.
^ Yep, there's a limited case where "I'm loving" is the verb tense that best fits, Lexi, but I agree with TH, that it's overused, thanks to the McDonald's slogan, where it doesn't really apply. There's a grammar rule about verbs such as
like, hate, believe, know, which says that they're not usually used with that ING ending - so, thank you McDonald's for making me explain to students that your slogan is not a good example to follow.
(Next Up: Thank you Pink Floyd for "We don't need no education", and special thanks to Gwen Stefani for "I ain't no hollaback girl. Oooh, this my shit, this my shit")
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 26, 2024, 02:14 AMI also hate people using the word "literal" or "literally" when it's the reverse. "He literally blew his top!" No, he did not, as if he did, he would be dead! "I literally hang around the place" as Frasier pointed out, no you do not, unless you're a bat.
As to the moderate oven, well, one would assume that would definitely not be an oven that voted for Trump!
^ Thank you very much for responding to a post of mine that went by otherwise unremarked. :thumb:
Quote from: tristan_geoff on Mar 27, 2024, 05:16 AMBut yes the thing ppl say abt ur brain not being able to go to 100% usually is bs... we use most of our brain daily
^ I don't have facts and figures, but I'm sure this is not true. Back in the 60s the whole psychedelic revolution was based on the science-backed idea that we habitually use only a small portion of our brain, and that it is only through drugs or meditation that we can really open up those buried neural possibilities.
As for your comment about 100%, Trollheart, you are right, 100% is all there is of something, so it can't be higher - and yet plenty of legitimate percentages go beyond the 100 mark: hyperinflation can be calculated to be running at 200% for example. I need to lie down in a dark room for a while to try and figure out how it is that you and I are both simultaneously right.
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Mar 27, 2024, 03:26 PM^ Yep, there's a limited case where "I'm loving" is the verb tense that best fits, Lexi, but I agree with TH, that it's overused, thanks to the McDonald's slogan, where it doesn't really apply. There's a grammar rule about verbs such as like, hate, believe, know, which says that they're not usually used with that ING ending - so, thank you McDonald's for making me explain to students that your slogan is not a good example to follow.
(Next Up: Thank you Pink Floyd for "We don't need no education", and special thanks to Gwen Stefani for "I ain't no hollaback girl. Oooh, this my shit, this my shit")
For sure. I guess I just haven't really encountered anyone using that tense inappropriately like that. But I will take your word for it.
On the subject of double negatives, it gets even weirder if someone says something like "it don't mean nothing to nobody". That's a triple negative, haha.
I usually just kind of ignore it, but I definitely understand stuff like that being a lot more annoying from the perspective of a teacher.
From my understanding of the brain, and I dont know too much, I've always been under the impression that the brain is constantly evolving which I think is why people relate it to some sort of super computer. Which would make it nearly impossible for us to use most of it given that its constantly growing and evolving. I could be completely wrong though. I just always assumed that we use anywhere between 30-40% of our brain power.
Quote from: Key on Mar 27, 2024, 03:44 PMFrom my understanding of the brain, and I dont know too much, I've always been under the impression that the brain is constantly evolving which I think is why people relate it to some sort of super computer. Which would make it nearly impossible for us to use most of it given that its constantly growing and evolving. I could be completely wrong though. I just always assumed that we use anywhere between 30-40% of our brain power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth?wprov=sfla1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth?wprov=sfla1)
In fairness, I was probably only using 10% of my brain when I said that.
I know I use at least 8% of my brain.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Mar 27, 2024, 03:41 PMFor sure. I guess I just haven't really encountered anyone using that tense inappropriately like that. But I will take your word for it.
On the subject of double negatives, it gets even weirder if someone says something like "it don't mean nothing to nobody". That's a triple negative, haha.
I usually just kind of ignore it, but I definitely understand stuff like that being a lot more annoying from the perspective of a teacher.
^ Despite mentioning it here, it doesn't bother me much - especially today, because with advent of Google and the way music has become so diversified, it's no longer common for students to ask me, "What are they saying in this song?"
Quote from: grindy on Mar 27, 2024, 04:47 PMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth?wprov=sfla1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth?wprov=sfla1)
^ Well, there goes a long-cherished belief of mine! My apologies to tristan .
Still, it's better to be well-informed, even if it leaves you feeling a little:-
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I tend to use very little of my brain - too much of it is rented out for ad space
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Sorry, that happens a lot. Still, you gotta pay the bills.
Look, there seems to be some sort of disconnect here with regard to what was said about the brain. First though, tristan I asked if you were having a stroke because your post was gibberish, like you had butt-texted or something. None of it was spelled any way correctly. It was a joke, of course, but that's why I asked, so when you say, to use your own acronym, wdym, well, twim.
Regardless of how much we use of our brains, the simple, unalterable fact remains that it can't be more than 100 percent, because that is the limit. You can't own, say, 140 percent of a horse, or see more than 100 percent of the world. After 100 percent, it stops. If we were to, in the far far future, somehow explore the known universe, we could only explore 100 percent of it. As to Lisna's other point, yes of course there can BE more than 100% if you're multiplying - world population rose by 250 percent - but that still means, in that case, twice as much as the whole thing and another 50 percent. It doesn't negate the fact that 100 percent is the full, entire thing. Anyway, my beef is with people, as I said, saying things like "I agree 190 percent" or "I'm putting 110 percent effort into this." Can't be done. Literally. If you fully agree, you agree 100 percent. If you work the very hardest you can, you can consider you've given it 100 percent, and no more, because it's not possible. It is of course just a way of over-exaggerating how much you agree/disagree/insert feeling here, but it is wrong.
Why have I never been in this thread before? 😂
I can't wait to contribute now
Not say, but do - anyone who plays videos/music from their phone on the phone's speaker in a public place where I can't immediately get away from you (e.g. subway, plane, elevator, etc.). These people are public menaces.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 09, 2024, 11:15 PMNot say, but do - anyone who plays videos/music from their phone on the phone's speaker in a public place where I can't immediately get away from you (e.g. subway, plane, elevator, etc.). These people are public menaces.
It's just an updated version of carrying a boombox that was so popular in the late 70s and 80s.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 09, 2024, 11:16 PMIt's just an updated version of carrying a boombox that was so popular in the late 70s and 80s.
:laughing: Do you do it Deej?
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 09, 2024, 11:16 PMIt's just an updated version of carrying a boombox that was so popular in the late 70s and 80s.
I see where you're coming from, but boomboxes sounded good. Tinny ass phone speakers don't. And the music doesn't bother me as much as random Youtube videos someone is deciding to subject me to. If I'm riding a bus, I don't need to hear some random Youtube jackass debating some other random Youtube jackass on a twitch stream. No one was playing that through their boombox in the 70s and 80s. Again, if you're playing it in McDonald's or while you're walking on the street, I don't care - it's when I can't immediately leave that it pisses me off, and it's just unconscientous.
Quote from: FETCHER. on Apr 09, 2024, 11:02 PMWhy have I never been in this thread before? 😂
I can't wait to contribute now
:laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 09, 2024, 11:42 PMI see where you're coming from, but boomboxes sounded good. Tinny ass phone speakers don't. And the music doesn't bother me as much as random Youtube videos someone is deciding to subject me to. If I'm riding a bus, I don't need to hear some random Youtube jackass debating some other random Youtube jackass on a twitch stream. No one was playing that through their boombox in the 70s and 80s. Again, if you're playing it in McDonald's or while you're walking on the street, I don't care - it's when I can't immediately leave that it pisses me off, and it's just unconscientous.
You have a point. Some people do choose to use Bluetooth speakers instead of just their phone.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 09, 2024, 11:26 PM:laughing: Do you do it Deej?
No but I feel like doing it this summer with a Bluetooth speaker. I know a guy that walks around with a small one in his hand blasting music. Since I take my booking everywhere. I will get a small one to clip onto my bag.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 09, 2024, 11:48 PMYou have a point. Some people do choose to use Bluetooth speakers instead of just their phone.
No but I feel like doing it this summer with a Bluetooth speaker. I know a guy that walks around with a small one in his hand blasting music. Since I take my booking everywhere. I will get a small one to clip onto my bag.
Which is fine with me, as long as you don't do it while I'm stuck with you in some kind of transport. If you wanna put a boomin' bluetooth speaker in your backpack while you walk on the street, more power to ya! Just don't do it when you're on the bus! :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 09, 2024, 11:52 PMWhich is fine with me, as long as you don't do it while I'm stuck with you in some kind of transport. If you wanna put a boomin' bluetooth speaker in your backpack while you walk on the street, more power to ya! Just don't do it when you're on the bus! :laughing:
:laughing: it has to be done everywhere! I will park my car and specifically ride the bus for this experience. Boomboxes weren't restrained by the streets alone. They were taken onto busses and subway cars too!
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 09, 2024, 11:56 PM:laughing: it has to be done everywhere! I will park my car and specifically ride the bus for this experience. Boomboxes weren't restrained by the streets alone. They were taken onto busses and subway cars too!
:laughing:
Not everyone had boomboxes back in the day! Everyone has a phone nowadays!
You do you DJ, but if I catch you playing music or a video on your phone/bluetooth speaker on public transit, I'm gonna come back to this forum and say: "I'm sad to report, but DJ was being really annoying today". :laughing:
DJ, I will throw your phone in a lake.
What about people on the bus/train/in the street who are talking on the phone and ARE ON SPEAKER!! Why do you need to be on speaker dude/lady? Nobody wants to hear your side of the conversation, never mind the other side too!
Quote from: SGR on Apr 10, 2024, 12:35 AM:laughing:
Not everyone had boomboxes back in the day! Everyone has a phone nowadays!
You do you DJ, but if I catch you playing music or a video on your phone/bluetooth speaker on public transit, I'm gonna come back to this forum and say: "I'm sad to report, but DJ was being really annoying today". :laughing:
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 10, 2024, 02:25 AM
I just watched that episode of Picard not long ago and that cracked me up. I didn't realize it was actually the same actor!
I assume it's the same actor.
Starting sentences with 'so' and 'I mean'.
Someone on Reddit asked if they were going to be sacked for posting nudes at work. A reply said
'So you're entitled to a full investigation'
Noticed so many people doing this recently. Why? What does it add? So fucking annoying.
And the 'I mean' users are just as bad.
I mean I find it really annoying. I mean it just is. I mean why not say something else?
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Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 17, 2024, 06:03 PMStarting sentences with 'so' and 'I mean'.
Someone on Reddit asked if they were going to be sacked for posting nudes at work. A reply said
'So you're entitled to a full investigation'
Noticed so many people doing this recently. Why? What does it add? So fucking annoying.
And the 'I mean' users are just as bad.
I mean I find it really annoying. I mean it just is. I mean why not say something else?
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So what you're saying is that you discount the opinions of anyone who does this?
I mean, that sounds like what you're saying.
Quote from: SGR on Apr 17, 2024, 06:09 PMSo what you're saying is that you discount the opinions of anyone who does this?
I mean, that sounds like what you're saying.
So what I do is just growl on the inside like a vicious dog for a few seconds.
I mean it's better than hitting something.
So, I mean, I do that too
This is, as I've said before many times, one of my bugbears too. And everyone does it. "So" is supposed to be qualified before you use it, ie, "I went down to the shops and they were closed so I came home." But today you'd get people saying "So I went down to the shops and they were closed." Gaaahh! It seems to be common practice now to begin ANY sentence with it, and to be honest (not really) I could see books being rewritten to take advantage (or disadvantage) of that fact.
"So it was the best of times, it was the worst of times."
"So call me Ishamel."
"So I am born, I grow up."
and even
"So in the beginning..."
Growwwwlll!
Not so sure about "I mean". I've heard it said, and true, again, it needs to be qualified, really. With correct usage being this: "It's poor directing, that's what I mean when I say it's a crap movie" and incorrect being "I mean it's a crap movie because the directing is so bad."
Let's for a moment, though, focus on the annoying things we say ourselves.
I know I use the phrase "in fairness" too much, and also "basically", as well as, like a lot of people, um, "like". I repeat phrases (though I try not to) and I'm also too fond of using "The thing you have to realise is..."
None of us are perfect.
Me excluded of course.
:shycouch:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 17, 2024, 06:03 PMStarting sentences with 'so' and 'I mean'.
Also using those words in sentences when they're unnecessary in the first place.
And the same goes for "like."
Big T is talking the truth.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 17, 2024, 09:25 PMAlso using those words in sentences when they're unnecessary in the first place.
And the same goes for "like."
I was listening to a podcast with Megan Phelps-Roper on it recently. She's a really intelligent person obviously. Every third or fourth word was 'like'. It started to do my head in which is a shame because she has such an interesting story but I had to turn it off.
In Norway, people don't express clear, concise feelings about anything because the whole nation is relatively stoic and we still feel the lingering influence from the ironic 90s when nooone took anything seriously. One of the consequences is we constantly use words to lessen the size of our emotions. The media does it too, so you read about people who got fucked over and they're a little irritated. Or they think something is a little cozy or a little embarassing. The word "little" in particular is prefixed to so much, though there's also the "a bit", adding a "maybe" and other offenders.
It's okay to have feelings.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 17, 2024, 09:25 PMAlso using those words in sentences when they're unnecessary in the first place.
And the same goes for "like."
Geez you guys are so picky. The "so", "I mean" and "like" gets used as mental pauses because people are either nervous or they talk too much and forget certain points so they use those meaningless words to fill space while their thoughts catch up with their mouth and how fast they are talking.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 18, 2024, 10:55 AMGeez you guys are so picky. The "so", "I mean" and "like" gets used as mental pauses because people are either nervous or they talk too much and forget certain points so they use those meaningless words to fill space while their thoughts catch up with their mouth and how fast they are talking.
And what about when typing?
Also yes we are picky like I mean that's the point of the thread.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2024, 02:14 PMAnd what about when typing?
Also yes we are picky like I mean that's the point of the thread.
True so that is the point of the thread and like when it comes to typing like people just type the way they like speak sometimes. I guess.
Yeah, I use those in my posts to give the impression that I'm actually speaking with the inflections and little idiosyncrasies I usually use in my speech. I think it gives a more casual vibe.
Quote from: Guybrush on Apr 18, 2024, 08:18 AMIn Norway, people don't express clear, concise feelings about anything because the whole nation is relatively stoic and we still feel the lingering influence from the ironic 90s when nooone took anything seriously. One of the consequences is we constantly use words to lessen the size of our emotions. The media does it too, so you read about people who got fucked over and they're a little irritated. Or they think something is a little cozy or a little embarassing. The word "little" in particular is prefixed to so much, though there's also the "a bit", adding a "maybe" and other offenders.
It's okay to have feelings.
^ If I'm understanding you right, I actually like this way of speaking. I use lots of cautious, qualifying words myself and enjoy using understatement. To me it's better than the opposite: using big, clanky language to overdramatize things. But yeah, all things in their place: when circumstances actually are dramatic, it's time to use more direct language.
Quote from: DJChameleon on Apr 18, 2024, 10:55 AMGeez you guys are so picky. The "so", "I mean" and "like" gets used as mental pauses because people are either nervous or they talk too much and forget certain points so they use those meaningless words to fill space while their thoughts catch up with their mouth and how fast they are talking.
^ Absolutely DJ ! All those words can be used with their proper meanings, but they are also just as you describe, kind of place-holders or "discourse markers" that only mean "Get ready: I'm going to say something", rather like clearing your throat. Other words in this category include "Well", "OK" and "Right", and I challenge anyone to say that they have never used these words either before or during the substance of what they're talking about.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 18, 2024, 02:14 PMAlso yes we are picky like I mean that's the point of the thread.
^ :laughing: Yep, that's what we're here for jimmy jazz !
Many Spanish speakers also use words without much meaning to kind of get themselves going. Most common are
Bueno and
Pues, (Well and Then respectively). I have also heard the more elaborate "
Oye, ven aca": it sounds odd when said to the person standing right in front of you because it means "Listen. Come here."
@Lisnaholic your approval of tire's description of Norwegian speech makes sense, given that you're an Englishman ;)
One word I absolutely loathe is 'hub'. Makes me cringe every time. I suppose it's part of the category of hideous corporate talk, which bothers me a lot more than the overuse of 'like' or 'so...' etc. (I plead guilty to using 'like' and 'I mean' too much)
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 18, 2024, 06:15 PM@Lisnaholic your approval of tire's description of Norwegian speech makes sense, given that you're an Englishman ;)
Thank you Marie, I think you're right. And you as well: in your posts you have a style that favours precision over drama I think. Is that how it is for the real life Riot Grrrl ?
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 18, 2024, 06:19 PMOne word I absolutely loathe is 'hub'. Makes me cringe every time. I suppose it's part of the category of hideous corporate talk, which bothers me a lot more than the overuse of 'like' or 'so...' etc. (I plead guilty to using 'like' and 'I mean' too much)
Hub? I definitely hear it used here and there, but not so much that it would get on my nerves. A piece of corporate lingo that bugs me though is people using "ask" as a noun, as in "what's the ask from the client on this?"
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 18, 2024, 06:37 PMHub? I definitely hear it used here and there, but not so much that it would get on my nerves. A piece of corporate lingo that bugs me though is people using "ask" as a noun, as in "what's the ask from the client on this?"
Funny, I had a zoom meeting two weeks ago and "ask" kept coming up. It made sense in context since I'm a fundraising captain putting together a team but yeah that's an odd one. Thank goodness I don't have to hear it too much.
To DJ's point about "pause words" to give you a chance to gather your thoughts, a funny but true, and exclusively Irish story. Learning Irish is hard, even for natives. It's a terrible language, which consistently fails or refuses to follow the basic rules of most other languages, including the so-called "Romance" ones (French, Spanish, Italian etc.) In general - and I'm talking VERY general here - if you know a word in, say, French, you can usually pick it out in the other languages because they sound similar. Case in point: "good" which is bueno in Spanish, bona in Italian and bon in French. You know what I mean.
But Irish is mad. We have words that are ten or more letters to describe a three-letter one in English (Gluisteain - pronounced gloosh-toyin - for car, buachaill (boo-a-kil) for boy etc) and you simply can't look at another language and work out from that how to read, or speak, Irish. Maybe Scottish, I don't know. Definitely not Welsh. Anyway where is this all heading? Where am I? Who are you people? How did I get here? Oh yeah.
In class then, as the teachers of Irish stubbornly (and rather stupidly, in my view) refused to speak any English, so that if you didn't understand something you had to ask "As Gaeilge! As Gaeilge!" (In Irish), if called upon, as we were, to string together a sentence in Irish, everyone - and I mean everyone - would use the word "agus" (aw-gus) which means "and" to pause and try to think of what came next. So funny. We all did it, the teachers knew, but it was a desperate effort to cudgel or threaten or bribe your brain into giving up the jealously-guarded next words in Irish. Seldom worked.
Anyway, "hub" I don't get, as Jansz said. I've only heard it used when it should be, as in, a centre of operations - "our hub is in Dublin" etc. Also by irate motorists who suddenly realised they were missing a vital component from their car's wheels, as in the oft-heard phrase "Oi! Who the fuck took my hubs? I'll kill the bastard!"
Two more for me: "touch base" - what? You'll touch my WHAT later? And one of my all-time hatreds, "step up to the plate". That's fine for you Americans, but we don't play baseball so it doesn't make sense for us. I tried to introduce "step up to the (penalty) spot", which would, in my view, tie in better to us guys on this side of the pond, but no dice. Nobody was having it. Oh, and "ballpark". Nobody here ever says it, except in concert with "figure" or "number", so why do we use it? The word "rough" or "estimated" work just as well. Bloody ballpark figure my arse!
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 18, 2024, 06:54 PMOh, and "ballpark". Nobody here ever says it, except in concert with "figure" or "number", so why do we use it? The word "rough" or "estimated" work just as well. Bloody ballpark figure my arse!
Over here in America, in info tech, we call them SWAGs - scientific wild ass guesses. Think it comes from the military.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 18, 2024, 06:54 PMTwo more for me: "touch base" - what? You'll touch my WHAT later? And one of my all-time hatreds, "step up to the plate". That's fine for you Americans, but we don't play baseball so it doesn't make sense for us.
UH-OH! (https://baseballireland.ie/)
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Apr 18, 2024, 06:24 PMThank you Marie, I think you're right. And you as well: in your posts you have a style that favours precision over drama I think. Is that how it is for the real life Riot Grrrl ?
that's nice of you to say but I don't think the way I express things is undertstated? Maybe it comes across different
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 18, 2024, 06:19 PMOne word I absolutely loathe is 'hub'. Makes me cringe every time. I suppose it's part of the category of hideous corporate talk, which bothers me a lot more than the overuse of 'like' or 'so...' etc. (I plead guilty to using 'like' and 'I mean' too much)
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 18, 2024, 06:37 PMHub? I definitely hear it used here and there, but not so much that it would get on my nerves. A piece of corporate lingo that bugs me though is people using "ask" as a noun, as in "what's the ask from the client on this?"
Damn I must be really behind on the times because I never hear either of these terms used often enough to get annoyed by them.
I envy you
Quote from: Marie Monday on Apr 19, 2024, 09:34 AMI envy you
Never heard those two either and I work in management in a huge global company. I'm also lucky, I guess.
I've heard ask, as in, "wow! That's a big ask!" Usually refers to something that is hard to do and, not surprisingly, comes both in politics and football - "To get that through Congress is going to be a big ask" or "Six nil down? There's fifty minutes left so maybe they can pull it back, but it's a big ask!" (Not, I hasten, to be confused with "big ass". Which is something to do with large mules or something I guess). I can see the usage of "ask" in this case, though really it's a shortened form of "thing to ask someone to do" I suppose. Bloody world today: not enough time and everyone has to shorten everth-
Quote from: grindy on Apr 19, 2024, 10:17 AMNever heard those two either and I work in management in a huge global company. I'm also lucky, I guess.
tbh I wouldn't know if corporate people use it because I'm not one, but it feels similar to that kind of language. The same attempt to make plain and dry things sound fancy or hip
I know one person who would use that word and he was a try-hard wanker who I didn't like so I agree.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2024, 12:02 AMI know one person who would use that word and he was a try-hard wanker who I didn't like so I agree.
Hmmm...can't imagine which 'Hub' he was most familiar with. :laughing:
Quote from: SGR on Apr 20, 2024, 01:01 AMHmmm...can't imagine which 'Hub' he was most familiar with. :laughing:
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 19, 2024, 03:53 PMI've heard ask, as in, "wow! That's a big ask!" Usually refers to something that is hard to do and, not surprisingly, comes both in politics and football - "To get that through Congress is going to be a big ask" or "Six nil down? There's fifty minutes left so maybe they can pull it back, but it's a big ask!" (Not, I hasten, to be confused with "big ass". Which is something to do with large mules or something I guess). I can see the usage of "ask" in this case, though really it's a shortened form of "thing to ask someone to do" I suppose. Bloody world today: not enough time and everyone has to shorten everth-
Big ask sounds dumb. I'd replace it for tall order, the expression Frank Drebin uses when he thinks Nordberg is asking him to buy heroin.
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"Big ask" sounds like something a very young child would say.
And for that matter, so does "my bad."
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 20, 2024, 01:13 PM"Big ask" sounds like something a very young child would say.
And for that matter, so does "my bad."
Thanks for mentioning "big ask" and "my bad". :thumb: I had forgotten, recently, to get annoyed about those ! What's doubly annoying about them is that,as Guybrush says, there already exist perfectly good ways to say the same thing: nothing wrong with "tall order" and "my mistake" afaik.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 20, 2024, 12:02 AMI know one person who would use that word and he was a try-hard wanker who I didn't like so I agree.
^ Yes, the corporate buzz words are the most annoying because they are usually in the mouths of people trying to show off in a meeting. The only one I can remember off hand is "fast-track": I was in a meeting and the boss said, "This needs to be a fast-track project." Immediately a thought bubble appeared in my head, "Then why the f are you involving me in it?!" :laughing:
- Wild
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Quote from: Lisnaholic on Apr 20, 2024, 03:11 PMYes, the corporate buzz words are the most annoying because they are usually in the mouths of people trying to show off in a meeting. The only one I can remember off hand is "fast-track": I was in a meeting and the boss said, "This needs to be a fast-track project." Immediately a thought bubble appeared in my head, "Then why the f are you involving me in it?!" :laughing:
I was in a meeting with several people where I worked some years ago, and one of them (who happened to be sitting directly across from me at the conference table) said we needed to start thinking "outside of the box" and as he said it, he held both of his hands up and drew an imaginary square in front of his face.
I almost burst out laughing but I managed to hold my composure.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 21, 2024, 01:30 PMI was in a meeting with several people where I worked some years ago, and one of them (who happened to be sitting directly across from me at the conference table) said we needed to start thinking "outside of the box" and as he said it, he held both of his hands up and drew an imaginary square in front of his face.
I almost burst out laughing but I managed to hold my composure.
Here is the box
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He was thinking outside of it.
Quote from: Psy-Fi on Apr 21, 2024, 01:30 PMI was in a meeting with several people where I worked some years ago, and one of them (who happened to be sitting directly across from me at the conference table) said we needed to start thinking "outside of the box" and as he said it, he held both of his hands up and drew an imaginary square in front of his face.
I almost burst out laughing but I managed to hold my composure.
:laughing:
I remember reading Watchmen, and the character Rorshach, who does not give a fuck, is trying to get information from criminals. They're trying to intimidate him (think he's in a cell, can't remember) but his laconic dry wit cracked me up. You've got three guys (plus him) - one very short, one very tall and one very fat.
This isn't verbatim and may be all wrong, but the basics are right cos I remember laughing at the dialogue it was so snappy.
Small guy: "Seen you around before, friend."
Rorschach: "Small world."
Tall guy: "You tryin' to be funny dude? I'll cut you good!"
Rorscach (looking up): "Tall order."
Fat guy: "Yeah we gonna kill you."
Rorschach: "Fat chance."
Then he kicked the shit out of all three. Love that guy. Moore is such a fantastic writer.
Had a rare girls night out to celebrate as one of was getting truly Hitched.... We did party we did drink so much, too much and caused a bit of a riot...Police arrested us all and took us to Sutton Police Station where things did not go down well...Ok we did have a rare mad night and done mad things...But why did we have to all have our fingerprints taken and then locked in a cell for a few hours...some things you never can forget.
Quote from: Dianne W on Apr 24, 2024, 11:11 PMHad a rare girls night out to celebrate as one of was getting truly Hitched.... We did party we did drink so much, too much and caused a bit of a riot...Police arrested us all and took us to Sutton Police Station where things did not go down well...Ok we did have a rare mad night and done mad things...But why did we have to all have our fingerprints taken and then locked in a cell for a few hours...some things you never can forget.
Sounds like a wild night, but what was the annoying thing people say?
nice
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 PMSounds like a wild night, but what was the annoying thing people say?
Presumably:-
Quote from: Dr_Rez on Apr 25, 2024, 12:23 AMnice
Hey Rez! Welcome! The Doctor is in the house! 8)
Quote from: Lisnaholic on Apr 25, 2024, 12:35 AMPresumably:-
At least she wasn't in Ireland, where they say "Irish Stew in the name of the Law".
I'll get me coat.
Well, first I'll have to buy one.
@Dianne W what did you do as you were rioting?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 25, 2024, 02:26 AM"Irish Stew in the name of the Law".
Oh gods 😅
Quote from: Janszoon on Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 PMSounds like a wild night, but what was the annoying thing people say?
Annoying... imagination haha....can you not see that having fun is ok... was OTT but fun it was..Your under arrest for disturbing the Peace. ...that is not annoying I guess, it's frigging outrageous.
I don't know why, but I hate the expression 'gave me the nod' or 'gives the nod', as a way of saying someone gave approval or permission for something.
Did you ever consider he was just looking at your tits? :laughing:
They're always looking at my tits. :(
In other news, watching the TV today I realised something. Those people who start a sentence with "so", which is pretty much, I think, hated by us all, only do so in response to a question. It's weird, but check it for yourself. Nobody says "So your latest album, what inspired its title?" They say "What inspired the title" and then the other person says "So we looked at the world population dispersion of whales" or whatever. It's become clear to me now that the word "so" is some sort of qualifier for a question, almost replacing "because".
I guess there may be people who just start a sentence with it anyway, but the vast majority use it as a response. So that's weird. ;)
Oh, and while we're at it, speaking of "the nod"....
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 25, 2024, 02:26 AMHey Rez! Welcome! The Doctor is in the house!
Have most people moved here to this forum?
Quote from: Dr_Rez on Apr 26, 2024, 01:05 AMHave most people moved here to this forum?
Pretty much. The ol' Bant is pretty much a ghost town, where the inscrutable sage known as K-Addict lives in solitude, performing ritual dances to the songs of his people.
Quote from: Lexi Darling on Apr 26, 2024, 02:13 AMPretty much. The ol' Bant is pretty much a ghost town, where the inscrutable sage known as K-Addict lives in solitude, performing ritual dances to the songs of his people.