Where does the admin team want the forum to go? Are we looking to recruit new members? How could we do that?
Into a black hole probably! :laughing:
Hey, we're always open to ideas. Someone who has good social media presence (I believe you can get the internet on computers now) would be best placed to try to spread the word. Failing that, I think Tore has authorised specialised "snatch squads" to rob members from other forums. Just make sure you have enough chloroform: nothing worse than when they wake up too early and start screaming in the back of the van!
Haha :laughing:
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 23, 2023, 02:08 AMWhere does the admin team want the forum to go? Are we looking to recruit new members? How could we do that?
Yes, of course we do!
It's very good of you to make a thread, actually, as I've been meaning to ask the community about this, but.. it's just all those movie and music discussions and other going-ons get in the way.
My appeal to the community would be thus: Do you know of anyone who would be a good member here? An example could be ex-MBers as a lot of people left over the years, possibly some due to the gradual change in the MB environment. I'm thinking people like Right-Track, Jackhammer, Mr. Dave, Bulldog, etc. I've been in contact with those I could find in my lists / records. If you know someone (ex-MBer or otherwise), I'd be grateful if you could spread the word.
Other than that, I don't know. We did consider making a google ad, but that shit's pretty expensive. It think it was like 50 bucks a month minimum?
We may have better luck spreading the word on social media or other forums, but for myself, I've quit basically all social media and have replaced just about all that sort of stuff with this one forum.
I actually got a friend of mine to join the forum but she has yet to post. I keep trying though. :laughing:
It probably isn't a good idea to advertise on other forums as they tend to be protective of their turf. I'm speaking of my experience at the writing forum mostly and I think we've got as many members from MB as we can.
Maybe there are fan sites such as RYM or some movie site that might allow an ad that promotes this site. Otherwise, I guess mouth to mouth would be our best approach. All of us have virtual friends outside of here or MB so maybe we could give that a shot.
Thanks guys. I know a few who'd probably sign up, but don't want to mix my personal life with the copious amounts of crap I post on forums.
Does this forum show up on a Google search?
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Feb 24, 2023, 09:49 PMDoes this forum show up on a Google search?
It does, but you have to be very specific. It's doubtful anyone would find us through Google searches.
just keep up the threads like jans' vinyl and trolls prog and synth's top electronic and tristan's
it's threads with content about artists that people google that will attract people
it takes time but content will eventually lead to views that will lead to members and you know
that's what i think anyway
it can take a long time though or even never happen -
i'm certainly not interested in mb 2.0 or a more civil mb
i haven't posted over there for over two years - i don't even know why i kept the name i use
We aren't getting any more new members. Is the mod team OK with this?
dude - it takes time
Quote from: Dreams on Mar 04, 2023, 01:51 AMdude - it takes time
:laughing:
True. I'll calm down then.
Yeah I wouldn't panic. I wonder how long it took MB to attract more than 100 members? We've only been going for what, two months is it? Barely out of the womb never mind out of nappies. We got a long way to go. But I think we've built up a decent core membership. Apart from me of course. It will take time, but we have the makings of a decent forum and I think we're headed in the right direction. Well now I DISTINCTLY heard the command "Set the controls for the heart of the sun": don't blame me, I'm just followin' orders...
I'll put a link to SCD in my signature on MB.
Any other suggestions and ideas are very welcome 🙂
Promise that Trollheart will do a strip tease :D
Er, on the other hand, maybe not. :D
Trust me, you do NOT want to see me naked! :laughing: Humanity is not ready for that!
Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 04, 2023, 03:18 AMYeah I wouldn't panic. I wonder how long it took MB to attract more than 100 members? We've only been going for what, two months is it? Barely out of the womb never mind out of nappies. We got a long way to go. But I think we've built up a decent core membership. Apart from me of course. It will take time, but we have the makings of a decent forum and I think we're headed in the right direction. Well now I DISTINCTLY heard the command "Set the controls for the heart of the sun": don't blame me, I'm just followin' orders...
there's a difference between 2003 and 2023 though. MB was started in the era when message boards were popular. That's no longer true.
Also, a lot of the time I can't even get Google to direct me to an MB thread even if I include user names and shit like that. You have to basically Google the fuckin thread title for the shit to pop up. So that thing that OH said about people googling some artist and ending up on a message board as a result might not even be true anymore.
Yeah true. Maybe that's why we have to try to be more than just a music forum. We have a better chance - if any - of someone googling, let's say, writing contests and coming upon us, or history or vampires or serial killers and finding my journals, or ambient music and finding Mrs. Waffles's journal, than we do by just relying on music artist Googles. In reality, we'll probably end up just attracting the odd member and hope they stay, but in the end, as I said, we're not even crawling yet so there's time.
ALso: might be an idea to put a "Name that tune" thread up? A lot of potential new members seem to come to MB that way. Just an idea.
I'm genuinely curious. Can you try googling any of the above topics and finding a link to this website? I dunno if the algorithm has changed over the years or message boards just aren't as popular so they don't show up but I used to use Google to find MB discussions from the past that I couldn't remember what thread it was and anecdotally I've just noticed that it seems damn near impossible to do so now where as before it was a lot easier.
I agree about not being a music forum though. Just because I don't really care about music discussions and so if the website isn't billed as a music forum then nobody can try to shame me or others for only posting in the lounge and not participating in the music shit. Which i used to hear on MB all the time back in the day. People who take so much pride in their taste in music honestly annoy the shit out of me.
Quote from: Jwb on Mar 06, 2023, 03:24 AMI'm genuinely curious. Can you try googling any of the above topics and finding a link to this website? I dunno if the algorithm has changed over the years or message boards just aren't as popular so they don't show up but I used to use Google to find MB discussions from the past that I couldn't remember what thread it was and anecdotally I've just noticed that it seems damn near impossible to do so now where as before it was a lot easier.
Google has a system of google rankings that you may know about. It accumulates over years, so I think it improves even if you do nothing. If your site is full of trash, that could lower your rank and I think that was basically nr. 1 incentive why Advameg was protective of MB's google ranking and needed moderation. It meant more people would find the site through a google search and click an ad.
SCD has negligible google ranking so while Google does index our site and return it in searches, the searches have to be very specific. Unlike Advameg back in the day, I don't really worry about this.
Quote from: Jwb on Mar 06, 2023, 03:24 AMI agree about not being a music forum though. Just because I don't really care about music discussions and so if the website isn't billed as a music forum then nobody can try to shame me or others for only posting in the lounge and not participating in the music shit. Which i used to hear on MB all the time back in the day. People who take so much pride in their taste in music honestly annoy the shit out of me.
I'm almost as much of a film buff as I am a music buff, so this makes sense to me. Also on MB, the Lounge is actually the most popular forum, so I don't think they should shame people :laughing:
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Quote from: Trollheart on Mar 06, 2023, 02:46 AMALso: might be an idea to put a "Name that tune" thread up? A lot of potential new members seem to come to MB that way. Just an idea.
It's weird isn't it? Might be worth considering.
An idea I had (https://scd.community/index.php?topic=204.0)
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Mar 04, 2023, 01:51 AMdude - it takes time
Five months in now and we still haven't recruited any non MB people to our cult.
Quote from: jimmy jazz on Apr 23, 2023, 12:52 AMFive months in now and we still haven't recruited any non MB people to our cult.
but we got the good from mb not the losers
and the conversation is moving along fine
and the mods aren't trolls
no incel lionseals
this place is damn near paradise
the only thing i don't like is people on here that still use music cancer
i don't respect that one bit no sir
Quote from: Toy Revolver on Apr 23, 2023, 02:24 AMbut we got the good from mb not the losers
I'm pleased you consider me to be one of the good ones bro <3
I agree that this place is great! I much prefer it to MB (where I no longer post). I feel like some of the teething troubles have kinda calmed down. Activity's good. It's so nice to be able to try things out and change things around, like The Abyss. Even if it fails, so what? We just change it again.
Recruitment was predicted to be a big problem and remains so. I'm considering trying to pull in som RL friends.
Qwerty might be coming.
I'll try to do my part.
A lot of my IRL friends have never used forums before, but it's worth a shot. My fiance is more of a Youtube/Tik Tok junkie rather than a discussion kinda guy, so I understand and respect that he does not wish to join us on here.
But I do hang with a lot of very online friends I could pass the link to.
I invited ISB, who I'm glad to see took up the offer. I've also invited Key. He had said no earlier, but I'm pointing out how dead MB is now and considering all the writing he does, that he would get more appreciation and feedback and interaction here. Guess we'll see. Both were asked via PM so nobody can accuse us of poaching, or at least prove it. Not that I think anyone cares over there now.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 29, 2023, 01:14 PMI invited ISB, who I'm glad to see took up the offer. I've also invited Key. He had said no earlier, but I'm pointing out how dead MB is now and considering all the writing he does, that he would get more appreciation and feedback and interaction here. Guess we'll see. Both were asked via PM so nobody can accuse us of poaching, or at least prove it. Not that I think anyone cares over there now.
Just make sure you don't admit it on the new forum or anything.
I'll poke Qwerty later or tomorrow.
Maybe makes sense to make this discussion members only then
Quote from: jadis on Apr 29, 2023, 09:44 PMMaybe makes sense to make this discussion members only then
You can only prove we poached them after we've poached you - I like it
Nah I don't give a toss. They're annoying me and anyway, there's no law against it. Anyone sign an NDA while over there? Me neither.
I'm toying with the idea of bringing the Album Club over here. Almost everyone who's in it is here anyway, and I'm not completely severing ties with them but I see this as one of the few reasons for me to keep going over there. If it was here, maybe I would have less reason to even bother. I don't know: what do you think? We could also maybe get new members from here.
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 29, 2023, 10:29 PMNah I don't give a toss. They're annoying me and anyway, there's no law against it. Anyone sign an NDA while over there? Me neither.
I'm toying with the idea of bringing the Album Club over here. Almost everyone who's in it is here anyway, and I'm not completely severing ties with them but I see this as one of the few reasons for me to keep going over there. If it was here, maybe I would have less reason to even bother. I don't know: what do you think? We could also maybe get new members from here.
I've been thinking about this too actually, funny you should bring it up. Not sure if he'd be interested, but Toy Revolver's opinions on the albums we nominate would be a blast. Maybe Mrs. Waffles would want to get involved?
I think I vote yes. I think the only one currently active in the MB Album club who's really not that active here is DJ.
i like to discuss music but i don't like those vote for which record games
I suppose I could give it a shot! It's just voting on an album and then reviewing the one that is picked, correct?
oh just someone picks the record and we all write reviews
those are fun 🤩
Quote from: Mrs. Waffles on Apr 29, 2023, 11:01 PMI suppose I could give it a shot! It's just voting on an album and then reviewing the one that is picked, correct?
Right, what we've been doing is giving users two weeks to review an album. You can say as much or as little as you like about it. Then, generally, you give it a score from 1 to 10. Contributors are encouraged to nominate their own albums once they've shown they're willing to stick around for a bit (we had Batlord join the album club just to nominate his own album, after which, he contributed nothing further - he couldn't even be bothered to review his own album). When you nominate a record, it gets added to the end of the queue that we currently have of albums, and eventually, it'll be up for review.
I think I speak for all the members when I say we'd absolutely love to have Mrs. Waffles and Toy as contributors - and everyone else here that might be interested in it! The more members, the better, I say! (as long as you're not gonna make me listen to sappy sad-sack indie or folk rock...;) )
Quote from: SGR on Apr 29, 2023, 11:19 PMRight, what we've been doing is giving users two weeks to review an album. You can say as much or as little as you like about it. Then, generally, you give it a score from 1 to 10. Contributors are encouraged to nominate their own albums once they've shown they're willing to stick around for a bit (we had Batlord join the album club just to nominate his own album, after which, he contributed nothing further - he couldn't even be bothered to review his own album).
Okay, sounds good! I'll be down to join whenever you start.
Alright Trolls, you heard the lady.
I now change my "I think I vote to move it here" to a wholehearted "COME ON TROLLS, WHUDDAYA WAITIN' FOR?" :beer:
You should just be shameless about it - make a post in the MB thread and say you're moving it here because MB is dead. And then drop the link for anyone who cares.
I'm with SGR. And I wanna review some gnarly ass albums.
Bring it on!!
I'm a-gonna do it. Watch this space. To be fair, I want to contact DJ by PM to give him the SP. Sorry, I just had to use another acronym, too funny. No, I want to let him know, as it's not his fault this is happening and he may want to join us, or not, but he only came onboard recently so it's only fair to give him a heads-up.
It'll take a while, unless Tore knows any way to port the whole thing over, as I'll have to move all the reviews - oh wait, I can't do that, only mine. Hmm. Do we start again then? That's a bit of a stumbling block. Any ideas?
Quote from: Trollheart on Apr 30, 2023, 03:51 AMI'm a-gonna do it. Watch this space. To be fair, I want to contact DJ by PM to give him the SP. Sorry, I just had to use another acronym, too funny. No, I want to let him know, as it's not his fault this is happening and he may want to join us, or not, but he only came onboard recently so it's only fair to give him a heads-up.
It'll take a while, unless Tore knows any way to port the whole thing over, as I'll have to move all the reviews - oh wait, I can't do that, only mine. Hmm. Do we start again then? That's a bit of a stumbling block. Any ideas?
Unfortunately, restarting here is probably the tidiest option. 🤔
Yeah I think maybe we have to do that. As we have a new album started maybe go from this one and park the MB one with a notice? Still want to talk to DJ though.